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A lot of parenting advice out in the world makes one key assumption: that you're an active and involved parent who has a drive to get better. But for many, if not all parents, there comes a time when burnout hits a climax and it can be easy to forget why you're trying so hard in the first place. So what do you do? Host Lisa Valentine Clark chats with fellow parents Suzanne Clark, Colleen Harker, and Carrie Ann Rhodes about their experiences and advice. If you want the Council of Moms to answer your question, reach out to The Lisa Show on Instagram or Facebook.

When you're spending all of your time taking care of another person, it feels like everything else in your life comes second to the needs of that person. Family, friends, jobs, everything can take a backseat when you're in the trenches of being a caregiver. But when caregiving stretches from weeks to months to years, life without those other relationships can become much more difficult and unfulfilling. So how can we, as committed and overwhelmed caregivers, maintain the other relationships in our lives? How do we keep up with old friends, stay up to date with extended family, or even maintain a healthy marriage? In this installment of The Lisa Show's series on Caregiving, Lisa talks with caregivers Carlos Olivas, Kara Ryska, Richard Lui, Jeremy Jorgason, and Rach Wilson about they're experiences and advice that they have for other caregivers.

When kids grow up and leave the house, it can be so hard to know just how involved we should be in their lives. We don't want to be "helicopter parents" to grown adults, but we also don't want to completely give up on trying to protect them from harm and help them make good choices. So how can we as parents support our kids' mental, emotional, and physical health, while also letting them spread their wings and leave the nest? Lisa chats with fellow moms, Carrie Ann Rhodes, Jeanette Bennett, and Amy Hackworth about their experiences. If you want the Council of Moms to answer your question, reach out to The Lisa Show on Instagram or Facebook. Listen to all episodes at https://www.byuradio.org/the-lisa-show The Lisa Show Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thelisashow/ The Lisa Show Listener Community: https://www.facebook.com/groups/theli... The Lisa Show is a semi-weekly show that aims to empathize with and empower women and parents who are struggling to navigate the complexities of modern life. Whether it's parenting difficult teenagers, managing mental health, improving intuitive living and wellness, progressing in careers, or figuring out how to do it all at once, Lisa is having conversations that will inspire and encourage those who are feeling left behind. #byuradio #thelisashow #together #podcast #parenting #wellness #mentalhealth #mentalillness #therapy #balance #community #selfcare #selflove #womenempowerment #byuradio #thelisashow #together #podcast

You wake up at 4 a.m. freezing cold, trembling, and with a feeling of despair. What's happening here? Caregiver burnout can look different for everyone, ranging from quiet chronic fatigue, to drastic health declines, as the physical, mental and emotional toll of caregiving reaches critical mass. In this episode, three caregivers (Mishka Sibert, Susanne White, and Rach Wilson) share their unique experiences of burnout while caring for a sibling, parents, or children, as well as how they coped and recovered their wellbeing. Lisa explores their journeys with glass child syndrome, nominal aphasia, nervous system dysregulation, and the intense exhaustion that so often accompanies a the caregiving role. Teepa Snow shares the signs that a caregiver is experiencing burnout, and how to identify these red flags even when burnout can look so different from one person to another.

With a teenager at home, it can always feel like you're doing something wrong as a parent. You're asking too many questions, you're enforcing too many rules, you aren't involved enough or offering the support that they need. It can be a particularly complicated stage of parenting. So how can we know when we should "helicopter" parent our kids and establish more boundaries, and when should we back off and let them make their own choices, mistakes and all? Lisa talks with Jennifer Johnson, Emily Spencer, and Colleen Harker in the episode of The Council of Moms to find out. If you want the Council of Moms to answer your question, reach out to The Lisa Show on Instagram or Facebook.

It's a phrase that is all too familiar to every caregiver. Some well-meaning person, in an attempt to show their support, will say, "Let me know what I can for you!" While on the surface it may seem like a helpful thing to say, for the caregiver, this phrase is often just a superficial act that only serves to increase the amount of stress on their already-full plate. So what SHOULD someone do when they want to support the overwhelmed caregiver in their life? In this episode of The Lisa Show's episode on caregiving, Lisa talks with caregivers in several walks of life, as well as experts David Schenk and Suzanne Degges-White, to figure out the best ways to offer relief.

When you're taking care of kids, it can feel impossible to do everything that you want to do in a day. There's taking the kids to school, exercise, making meals, working, cleaning, shopping, picking up the kids, taking them to practice, helping them with homework, keeping up with friends, running a side-hustle, and THEN you're also supposed to somehow have your own hobbies and take time for self-care. There's just no way! In this episode of The Council of Moms, Lisa talks with Liz Palmer, Jennifer Johnson, and Suzanne Clark about how they keep all the right plates spinning at once. If you want the Council of Moms to answer your question, reach out to The Lisa Show on Instagram or Facebook.

Have you ever been surrounded by people, and still felt profoundly alone? Lisa talks with Dr. Julianne Jolt-Lunstad and Dr. Suzanne Degges-White about the impact of loneliness on caregivers with experts, and the root causes of this intense experience. Emilie Campbell shares her experience as a special mom to 16-year old Connor, and how she copes with the long-term emotional marathon of aloneness in caregiving.

It can be hard to tell the difference between just "having a hard time" and a diagnosable mental illness. Research shows that the mental health of kids and teenagers is at an all-time low, and the mental health of parents isn't faring much better. So how can we tell if it's time to take our kids, our ourselves, to see a mental health professional? Lisa talks with the Council, this week consisting of Kimberly Simmons, Emily Spencer, and Marilyn Valentine, about each of their experiences helping their kids improve their mental health, while also learning to navigate their own struggles. If you want to hear The Council of Moms answer your question, reach out to The Lisa Show on Facebook or Instagram, or email us at [email protected]

When it comes to caregiving, why do we think we have to do everything and do it all perfectly? How can we have more compassion for ourselves? Lisa talks to caregivers and caregiving experts about perfectionism, self-talk, and the importance of loving ourselves even--and especially--when we feel like our best isn’t good enough.

How do you know that you're doing a good enough job as a parent? And on the other hand, how do you avoid beating yourself up when it feels like you're not doing well enough? Host Lisa Valentine Clark talks with the Council of Moms--this week consisting of Marilyn Valentine, Elizabeth Palmer, and Kimberly Simmons--about mom guilt, comparison, self-love, finding a support system, and other listener-submitted topics.

Nearly all of us will eventually become a caregiver or a recipient of care—so how can we prepare now? Lisa Valentine Clark kicks off this season by exploring the need for more conversation about caregiving. Dr. Lance Erickson explains how social expectations, age, and gender influence who ends up in caregiving roles. Dr. Natali Edmonds of Dementia Careblazers shares how talking about caregiving beforehand helped her prepare for her own caregiving experience, and Jeremy Jorgason discusses lesser known ways that caregiving can become more intense than anyone expects. Caregiving is overwhelming, wonderful, painful, beautiful, and poignant—and it’s better when we face it together.

In the last episode of the Creativity series, Lisa explores how creativity changes us from the inside out. With the help of researchers Joshua Katz, Jack Goncalo, and Lynne Vincent, Lisa looks at how creativity can change our perception of real life—and why that can be a good thing. She examines the relationship between selflessness and creativity, the way being creative can help us process and heal in profound ways, and the unparalleled power of creativity to restore human agency.

Lisa joins TV host, artist, and arts advocate Emilie Starr to explore how creativity has brought them closer to their communities, their families, and a higher power. They discuss how motherhood is a creative endeavor and how the arts have helped them make intergenerational connections. Featuring a very special guest, baby Evelyn!

Most of us can’t quit our day jobs to be creative full-time, but that doesn’t mean we can’t live creative lives. In fact, in the words of professional artist Andrea Hardeman, any time you’re showing up as your authentic self, you’re being creative. In this episode of The Lisa Show, Lisa joins forces with Andrea, creativity researcher Jack Goncalo and the Council of Moms (Lauren Johnston and Kimberly Beatty) to explore the relationship between authenticity and creativity, the importance of dissent and self-expression, and how to find your creative identity.

Lisa joins artist and designer Carrie Ann Rhodes to discuss living a creative life. Carrie Ann shares her experiences exploring new hobbies even when they don’t come naturally to her. They discuss how Carrie Ann incorporates creativity into her lifestyle as a mom, and the expectations that come with the label of being an “artist.”

There are so many reasons to create. But sometimes it seems like there are just as many reasons to put it off, edit your efforts to death, or just give up altogether. What's the relationship between our inner critic, and creative block? How can we push past that to unlock the flow state? Lisa is joined by her brother, James Valentine, and the Shenanigans--Lauren Johnston, Kimberly Beatty, Katie Craig, and Jasmine Jackman, to break down sustainable creative habits and the best ways to silence that little voice standing between us and our creative potential.

How can we “keep the channel open” for inspiration? In this episode, Lisa Valentine Clark and professional artist James Rees discuss the spiritual side of art. James shares his best practices as an artist and an art teacher, and he and Lisa explore how we can keep ourselves open to transcendental experiences as we live creative lives.

People will often talk about creative pursuits as a way to make friends--maybe you'll meet people at a pottery class, or you'll find people who are interested in the same music as you. But what we don't often discuss is how creativity connects us not only to the people around us, but also to ourselves! In the episode of The Lisa Show's series on creativity, Lisa talks with friends and experts to find out how being creative can help us understand ourselves, the people around us, and our place in the universe. No small task!

Creativity can be incredibly fulfilling. So why is it so hard sometimes? Lisa Valentine Clark and Studio C showrunner and producer, Jake Van Wagoner, take a look at imposter syndrome and the importance of giving yourself permission to make bad art. They discuss how to enjoy the process rather than putting pressure on ourselves to create something great every time. Plus, Jake improvises a new theme song for The Lisa Show.

Are you a creative person? Everyone answers this question differently. Whether you feel too busy to participate in your old hobbies, or you think there's "not a single creative bone in your body”, there's no limit to the obstacles keeping us from exploring our creative sides. But as it turns out, there's a science to the way we define our creative potential--and knowing the odds makes it easier to beat them. Lisa chats with Drs. Lynne Vincent and Jack Goncalo, as well as James Valentine, about what makes a person creative or not--and how to overcome some of the biggest misconceptions standing between us and our most creative selves.

“I went to the woods because I wished to live deliberately,” says Thoreau. But how do we live deliberately in the world of smartphones, robots, and the internet? In this final installment, Lisa and Kacy Faulconer discuss the conclusion of Sherry Turkle’s book Alone Together. Lisa and Kacy discuss digital manners, and Lisa shares how technology helped her late husband have a higher quality of life. What do we live for, and how can technology augment that rather than replace it?

We live in a time of unprecedented loneliness. Even in the luckiest of circumstances, when we're surrounded by supportive friends and family, we might be feeling crushing loneliness in one facet of our lives or another. Maybe you have a chronic illness that no one seems to understand. Or maybe it feels like you're the only one that's struggling to raise a troublesome toddler. Whatever the circumstances, there's a community out there that can help. In this final installment of The Lisa Show's series on Your Life Online, Lisa talks to friends and experts to learn how we can use the internet tools at our disposal to feel a little less isolated and alone.

What is it about being human that gives us a need to post secrets online? Is there something deeper that we're hoping to get in return? In this episode, Lisa and Whitney Call discuss the next two chapters of Alone Together by Sherry Turkle. Whitney shares her experience with Post Secrets, and she and Lisa discuss the illusion of vulnerability that the internet provides.

So many of us wonder if we're on our phones too much. It's easy to turn to social media or other online spaces to numb feelings of anxiety, depression or loneliness, even if we know that it can impact our mental health in the long term. How do we break this cycle? In this episode, Lisa talks with our very own producer Becca Hurley about her experiences with technology addiction. Lisa and the Council of Moms (Ashlynn Allen and Angie King) discuss how to put our phones down and be present with our families, and licensed therapist Dr. John Sovec shares advice on how to become more mindful of our technology use, and create the space for intentional choices that keep us in control.

As Lisa and her sister Gina James dive into the next two chapters of Sherry Turkle’s book Alone Together, they discuss how the way we communicate on our phones has changed over time, from calling to texting to Facetime and Snapchat. Lisa and Gina also discuss how we explore and construct our identities online. In a world where streamers make real money playing video games and influencers post about their personal lives, the lines between online life and real life have never been more blurry. How does online life overlap with real life— and where do we draw the line?

Do you remember the last time you read a headline or a post online, and later found out it wasn’t true? How did you feel? How did it change the way you see the world? The internet is filled with people sharing information, whether they’re journalists breaking a big story, or influencers talking about their favorite skincare products, or even just family members talking about things that interest them. And no matter what your personal beliefs are, it can be hard to always spot incorrect or completely false information when it comes up. So what can we do? And what difference can media literacy make in our lives? Lisa talks to cybersecurity expert Amanda Hughes, media literacy professor Julia Smith, as well as her producer McKay to find out.

When was the last time you thought to yourself, “I don’t want to be interrupted?” In our hyperconnected world, many of us find ourselves always “on call,” checking our phones rather than living in the moment. In this episode, Lisa and Ganel-Lyn Condie discuss how technology shapes our identities and the identities of our children. They also explore how to parent children of all ages in a world where people are expected to be connected 24/7. How can we allow our children the autonomy they need to flourish when we’re always one call or text away?

Kids love technology, and it can be a lot of pressure on parents to decide how much access is appropriate for each kid. How can we know if we're setting healthy boundaries with our kids regarding technology? How much screen time is too much? In this episode, Lisa joins forces with Brooke Romney, Trent Ray, and The Council of Moms (Aimee Hopkin and Kacy Faulconer) to find out. There are more resources available than ever to educate parents on helping kids use tech in a healthy way. Although every parent has a different strategy to managing screens in their home, finding an individualized approach based on the needs of your family (and supporting other parents in their tailored approaches) can be the key in healthy relationships to technology for the whole family.

It's only human to search for new, innovative solutions to our basic needs. There's a gadget for everything—and it makes fries! But in a world that’s more lonely than ever, can new technology give us the happiness and connection we crave? How can robots provide us with a better quality of life, and how do they take away from it? Alexis and Chanté from Let's Talk Sis join Lisa to discuss the next chapters of Sherry Turkle’s book, Alone Together, and break down what we want the relationship between technology and humanity to look like in the long term.

When you think about your kids using the internet, what do you think about? Is it the many uplifting and educational opportunities that exist online? Or is the first thing that comes to mine one of the many dangerous and threatening corners of the internet that you hope your kids never find? As parents and internet-users in general, safety is always a concern. We don't want to slip up and give sensitive information to a scammer or stalker. But what about our emotional safety? How can we protect our mental health while also protecting our passwords? In this episode of The Lisa Show's series on Your Life Online Lisa talks to Ricardo Rosas, data privacy expert Trent Ray, and mental health education Natasha Devon to find out.

As artificial intelligence becomes more and more effective, robots become capable of filling more and more of our desires— even our desire for human connection. Which caregiving tasks should be done by robots, and which should only be done by humans? Is a simulation of companionship better than nothing, or should we hold out for the real thing? As Lisa and Carrie Ann Rhodes discuss Chapter 3 and Chapter 4 of Sherry Turkle's book Alone Together, they dive into these ethical dilemmas and more.

Most of us are on more than one social media platform. Whether it's Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Twitter etc., each one has its own vibe and culture. So what does it say about us when what we share is molded by these unique spaces? Lisa assembles a Council of Moms with a wide range of comfort levels online, and they discuss the variety in social media and how to make it work for you. Lisa's friend Aimee gives some poignant advice on dating apps, and keeping yourself emotionally safe when using media that incentivizes you to pretend. Lisa shares her experience as a young mom in England, and how to cope when it feels like you're the only uncomfortable person in the room (or chatroom).

Can robots make us love them, and is that love real? As Lisa and Carina Wytiaz dive into the first two chapters of Alone Together by Sherry Turkle, they explore their relationships to the tools and toys around us that seem to have a life of their own--from Furbies and Tamagotchis, to Siri and Alexa. Carina shares how her experience in the tech industry affects the way she views this kind of interaction. As electronics get more human-like, what does the way we treat them say about us? And how can we set boundaries and nurture meaningful relationships?

Do you feel like the way you represent yourself online is the "real" you? Is it even possible to be completely "authentic" on social media? In this first episode in The Lisa Show's series about life online, Lisa dives into the idea of being "authentic." What does it mean? Why do we feel so much pressure to figure it out? And is it even worth trying? She talks to author and legendary blogger Gabrielle Blair, social media expert Dr. Anna Akbari, and the Council of Moms (Kacy Faulconer and Aimee Hopkin) in order to find out.

In this final installment of Lisa's Book Club on More Than a Body by Drs. Lindsay and Lexie Kite, Lisa and Whitney Call explore the final frontier of body image: peace. What would you define as the things that make you truly happy? What beliefs are you holding onto which suggest that your happiness is contingent on your physical appearance? Whitney and Lisa reflect on the impact this book has had on their own body image, how they view the natural process of changing in their bodies, and what it means to "shift your focus" to ideas that change the world for the better. They discuss the distractions which sometimes help us avoid the negative body image moments, and the discomfort of shame that has to be confronted before we can overcome it. Healing body image is accessible to everyone, and in a world where we are constantly inundated with objectification, we can overcome the comparison with ideals and with each other when we share all of the "in-betweens" along the way.

Okay. So maybe you've watched an inspiring movie. Or you read a great self-help book. Or maybe you listened to a life-changing podcast series about body image. And now you're all fired up to make changes, to live more healthily, and to be kinder to yourself. And then it's happily ever after, right? We all know it's not that easy. Even the person with the best body image in the world will run into hard days, when being healthy physically and emotionally isn't as easy as it used to be. So how can we improve our body image for good? And what does long-term self-love actually look like? In this final installment of the Lisa Show's Body Image series, Lisa talks with the Council of Moms (consisting this week of Gina James and Emily Campbell), former professional dancer Jess Spinner, professional model and actor Gabe Hansen, and body image expert Connie Sobczak, to find answers.

Lisa and Whitney dive into Chapter 6: "A Resilient Reunion", and the final chapter of "More Than a Body" by Drs. Lindsay and Lexie Kite. What can we do to combat the message that women are defined by their physical appearance? Lisa and Whitney reflect on how they have shifted their own mentalities about identity, and their relationships to their bodies. They discuss aspects of body image that have been particularly poignant over the course of the book and their body image journeys.

Most of us have figured out the first part on our own—social media has a way of making us feel worse about ourselves. But new research on the effects of social media on body image introduce a twist: we have a lot more power than we think. Despite the negative impacts of idealized images and relentless confidence-sapping messaging, social media also has the potential to be a powerful tool for good, if we apply some careful strategy to the way we use it. Lisa gathers family and friends in the Council of Moms with Gina James and Emilie Campbell, to get firsthand perspectives of social media changing the way we relate to our bodies. Body image researcher Dr. Jessica Alleva joins the conversation with fascinating results from studies which tested the ability for body image to improve, and the way social media fits into that equation. Social media guru Alison Faulkner shares her dramatic experience with body image and traumatic injury, how the demands of social media shaped her body image, and how she took back the reigns in order to heal, and share that healing with others.

Lisa continues her conversation with Alex of Sassy Confetti, and Stefanie Michelle, on Chapter 5 of More Than a Body by Drs. Lindsay and Lexie Kite, "Reclaiming Health and Fitness for Yourself". They share their feelings about beauty ideals and how unattainable body image expectations can affect us, as well as how generational trauma influences our definition of beauty. What role does genetics play in relation to diet, fitness and health? Lisa, Alex and Stefanie discuss the notion that our bodies should be instruments and not ornaments to society.

In most of our relationships, when it comes to bodies the best idea is just to not worry about things that don't pertain to us. It's their body, their health, and it's not our place to judge. But with our romantic partner, there's no escaping how our bodies play a role in the relationship. We're there for the highs and lows, the good body image days and the bad, and we all want to feel loved, desired, confident, and safe. So how do we build our romantic connection on a foundation of healthy body image? In this installment of The Lisa Show's series on Body Image, Lisa talks to the Council of Moms (consisting this week of Katie Craig, Natalie Madsen, and Suzanne Clark) and eating disorder specialist Signe Darpinian to find the best advice. National Domestic Violence Hotline: 800-799-7233 Office on Women's Health - Relationship Safety Guidelines: https://www.womenshealth.gov/relationships-and-safety Psychology Today - Find a Therapist: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists

Lisa and her guests, Stefanie Michelle and Alex of Sassy Confetti, dive into Chapter 5 of More Than a Body by Drs. Lindsay and Lexie Kite, "Reclaiming Health and Fitness for Yourself". They share from their own journeys of body image and self-empowerment. What definition of "health" actually promotes mental and physical wholeness? Lisa, Stefanie and Alex dismantle false notions of "wellness" and share how they've found compassion for themselves and love for their bodies.

What would you do if your boss called you into their office for some feedback... because you revealed your age? Lisa shares her experience of the weird mixed messaging that so many of us experience when it comes to change and getting older. A special intergenerational Council of Moms reflects on different transitions that have impacted their body image, and how they learned to overcome personal and societal expectations for how their bodies would look or feel through pregnancy, perimenopause, menopause and all the other little transitions in between. They discuss moving past "turning back the clock" and on to loving bodies that were always meant to change.

Lisa and Whitney Call continue their conversation on part two of Chapter 4 of More Than a Body by Drs. Lindsay & Lexie Kite, "From Divided To United as Women". What changes when we replace appearance-based commentary and language with new conversations and topics? Breaking these habits is tricky, and requires a lot grace as we learn new ways to appreciate ourselves and each other. Lisa and Whitney examine their own internal monologues about body standards, and how the people in their circles responded to major changes in their appearance. Lisa remembers a compliment that felt like a dagger to the heart, and Whitney reflects on what she learned about parenting and anxiety from the reactions she received when she shaved her head. They discuss how women can find compassion and vulnerability with each other, and unite in their shared journey to self-love and a healthy body image.

How often do you go out and exercise not because you feel like you have to, or because you feel guilty that it's been too long, but because is was fun? It seems like in our busy lives often the only thing that can get us off of the couch and moving our bodies is the body shame we feel about not doing as much as we should be. But who is determining what exercise "should" look like in our lives? And is that expectation even a healthy one? In this episode of The Lisa Show's series on Body Image, Lisa talks with personal trainer Matt Peale, mental health expert John Sovec, and this week's Council of Moms (Whitney Call, Emily Spencer, and Josephine Bills) to figure out where we went wrong when it comes to exercise and how we can make things right.

In this installment of Lisa's Book Club, Lisa and Whitney Call dive into part one of Chapter 4 of More Than a Body by Drs. Lindsay & Lexie Kite, "From Divided To United as Women". They explore the competitive space that women often find themselves in as a result of societal messages which say that there's only so much space to go around—and that women should take up less. What does body image have to do with female stereotypes that suggest women are "catty" or "vicious"—and who benefits from that? (Hint: it's not women.) Whitney recalls her own journey of body transformations and how people spoke differently to her depending on her appearance. Lisa ponders the section of her closet that was once dedicated to jeans in every size. They discuss how women can stick together and celebrate each other as their bodies naturally change.

How do you know what to eat? Trying to find good information is harder than ever, especially in a diet culture-saturated world that insists "you are what you eat", distorts the idea of health, and encourages toxic relationships with food. Finding peace with the fuel which powers us is critical to enjoying a rich life and loving our bodies. Lisa assembles intuitive eating coach Saskia Carr, food scientist Michelle Menden, and the Council of Moms for a conversation about managing food and nutrition for ourselves and our kids. They discuss food rules, counteracting diet culture in their homes, and how they overcome the food anxiety, comparison, and perfectionism that so often comes to the table.

Lisa and Natalie Madsen continue their conversation on Chapter 3, "From Self-Objectification to Self-Actualization" from More Than a Body by Drs. Lindsay & Lexie Kite.

Whenever "body positivity" is mentioned, many people have a gut reaction of, "But we don't want to glorify obesity--that would be unhealthy!" It seems like many people see quote-unquote "healthy" living as something that can't coexist with loving your body at any size. On the other hand, many people are advocating for greater body love wherever body conversations are happening: in advertising, in movies, at the dinner table, and even at the doctor's office. So where is the disconnect? And how can we live our healthiest lives now, physically and emotionally, while working towards whatever goals we're shooting for? In this episode of The Lisa Show's series on Body Image, Lisa seeks to better understand what the term, "obesity" actually means, both medically and practically in the lives of those experiencing it. She talks to body image coach Amanda Martinez Beck and obesity specialist Dr. Katherine H. Saunders to hear their personal stories as well as to learn what "healthy" should really mean for each of us, and how we can all do better to help both ourselves and the people around us find the emotional and physical joy that we deserve.

Lisa and Natalie Madsen dive into Chapter 3, "From Self-Objectification to Self-Actualization" from More Than a Body by Drs. Lindsay & Lexie Kite. Natalie reflects on her experience as an actress and comedian on sketch comedy TV show Studio C through three pregnancies, and the the subtle messaging that made physical appearance feel so pivotal to success. How does self-objectification relate to people pleasing? Is it possible to push past the mental noise and get back to a "flow" state? Lisa and Natalie talk candidly about their own "beauty work" and how they keep the pressure to look good from taking over lasting personal happiness.