The Legendarium

Todd, Kenn, and Stephanie from the Blue Team discusses the first half of Caliban's War, book 2 of The Expanse series by James S.A. Corey. As per usual, Todd has some tears to shed, Stephanie gets in touch with the emotional state of the characters, and Kenn is (of course) attracted to the militant women in the story. Enjoy! While Blue Team is reading the books, Craig will be hosting a weekly, patron-only, joint watch-through of the SyFy series. To get more details, check out this Reddit post. To join in on the weekly livestreams, join any Patreon tier. Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Giant ants and pterodons come to Earth via a rift in space-time, kill lots of people, and consume anything electric, leaving the remnants of humanity to rebuild in a post-apocalyptic steampunk hellscape. If that line doesn't sell you on pulp sci-fi, then there may be no hope for you at all. Kenn and Craig welcome best-selling author Larry Correia, who tells us why he pulled this new collaborative novel off his shelf for us to discuss. Visit Larry at https://monsterhunternation.com/ Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

The time has come! Six years ago Craig and Ryan kicked off the Legendarium podcast with a read-through of the Lord of the Rings. Now they're back, and they've got Kyle and Megan in tow as well. In this episode they discuss a bit about the hobbits, the pacing, the poetry and the reasons for Gandalf's 17-year absence. If you're hoping to get your fix of Professor Craig, stick around, because that mostly happens toward the end. A note: If you're looking for an in-depth discussion of the minutiae of this book, look elsewhere! But you can enjoy a discussion amongst friends loosely based around the first book of The Lord of the Rings. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

It's all listener comments, all the time! For our final Lightbringer installment, Craig, Ryan, and Stephanie tackle all the listener comments and questions that they missed during the first Burning White episode. Curving cannonballs, deific resuscitations, and gas-powered murder teeth are all on the table as we close out our discussions of Brent Week's 5-volume fantasy epic. What a ride. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Kyle recently returned from a Disneyland trip on which he got to experience the newest Star Wars attraction: Rise of the Resistance. He, Ryan, and newcomer Mandi combine forces (haha) to try to convince Craig that Disney has gotten at least one Star Wars thing indisputably right: the theme park stuff. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Ask and ye shall receive! After years of requests, the Blue Team (this time comprised of Todd, Kenn, and Stephanie) is taking on James S.A. Corey's sci-fi epic series, The Expanse. The joint effort of Daniel Abraham and Ty Franck (writing under the joint pen name of Corey), Leviathan Wakes was nominated for a Hugo Award for Best Novel in 2012, and the series was nominated for Best Series in 2017. So, will the Blue Team join in the love-fest? Listen and find out! While Blue Team is reading the books, Craig will be hosting a weekly, patron-only, joint watch-through of the SyFy series. To get more details, check out this Reddit post. To join in on the weekly livestreams, join any Patreon tier. Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Craig and Ryan welcome special guest--and Brent Weeks's editorial and administrative assistant--Melanie Bond to discuss The Burning White, the final book in the Lightbringer series. To have even a shot at greatness, a book had better take some risks, and this one certainly did that. So, what were the risks Brent took? How did they pan out? Can an author really [redacted for spoiler reasons] and get away with it?? Giveaway rules: To enter to win a signed copy of The Burning White, simply tweet at us (@LegendariumPod) with your one-sentence, five-star review of the book. To qualify, entrant must be a U.S. resident. Entries will be accepted until 11:59 pm EST on Friday, January 24th, 2020. The winner will be selected entirely at our discretion and notified on Twitter by direct message no later than January 31st, 2020. (You must be following us on Twitter to receive a direct message.) Follow Melanie on Twitter Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

We were saddened to learn today of the passing today of Christopher Tolkien, someone who has done more for the fantasy genre than most people realize. Craig talks a bit about the younger Tolkien's legacy and his contribution to fantasy. The bulk of the episode is reserved for reviewing Netflix's The Witcher, starring Henry Cavill. There's a lot to love and a lot to ... love somewhat less, and we'll get to a few of those things on today's episode. Craig and Kyle are joined on this episode by Matt Hatch from The Dusty Wheel, a Wheel of Time-centric, live call-in show on YouTube. Go check it out. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Craig, Ryan, and Stephanie knock out their entire Blood Mirror discussion in a single episode instead of two. Is Brent pulling too many rugs out from under our feet? Has he improved since Night Angel in his use of sex and violence? Speaking of which, let's talk about that Author's Note... Here's one of the massive solar arrays Ryan mentioned. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

I really hope Craig puts info here.... (Narrator: But Craig did NOT put any info here. He decided to let Ryan sleep in the bed which he'd made. His decision was validated when he looked ahead and realized Ryan had called Sanderson's latest book "nonsense," which would surely become a delightful regret.) Todd, Kenn and Ryan blather on about Starsight or some such nonsense. They were clearly tired and made questionable decisions. Support us on Patreon. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Blue Team is back for a quick dip back into Dresden before taking a more extended break from it for a while. But what an interesting time the Blue Team has had with it! From a "yeah I guess we'll read this because the listeners seem to want us to" series to a "oh my word this is really really good" series, it's been a pretty wild ride through Dresden so far. Thanks for hanging in there with us. And yes, we will finish the whole series! Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Craig, Ryan, and Stephanie finally get back on the horse and continue their discussions of Brent Weeks's Lightbringer series. This time they cap off book 3, The Broken Eye. Where do Andross's loyalties lie? What will Teia do with/for the Order of the Broken Eye? Will Kip and Teia ever get together? Does Stephanie hate hot girls in books? Only one way to find out! Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Craig, Stephanie, and Kyle are back for the final installment of our podcast series on The Hobbit. In this episode, we talk about chapters 15 through 19, including Bilbo's theft of the Arkenstone, the Battle of the Five Armies, and the return journey home. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Craig, Ryan, Megan, Kenn, and Todd crowd around the mics to give you what you all need: another podcast of people chatting about the new Star Wars movie. It is our inevitable destiny that we'll do a minimum of one Star Wars episode every year until the end of time, so here we are again. We're finally (maybe?) putting the Skywalker saga to bed, and we give it quite the send-off, with nearly 90 minutes of argument, conjecture, and horrible, forced Star Wars puns. (ha.) Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Pretty much what the title says! During our latest YouTube livestream Craig, Kenn, and Megan sat down and spun the Wheel of Tangents. Megan updates the group on her progress in The Wheel of Time; Craig gives his first impressions of both N.K. Jemisin and Joe Abercrombie; and Kenn holds forth on The Mandalorian. They talked about a wide variety of subjects, obviously, but the real takeaway here, as you'll see, is that Kenn and Megan don't see nearly enough movies. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Craig dons his elbow patches so that he and Kyle can continue their Hobbit adventure, this time talking about the Smaug chapters: that is, chapters 12 through 14. They talk about Smaug, of course, but also about the Arkenstone, the relationship of these scenes to others in The Hobbit and in The Lord of the Rings, and Tolkien's meditations on greed. Ever wondered why Smaug was so ticked off that the villagers of Lake Town had destroyed their bridges? Listen and find out! Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Of all the authors we've covered on the show, whose works would we remove from existence? What takes you out of a book the quickest? How important are maps to fantasy stories? Kyle and Craig tackle these and many other burning questions on today's Wheel of Tangents. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Blue Team has finally given in to the true crime podcast craze: a serial killer is on the loose in the Dresdenverse, and Harry is on the case. Megan, Todd, and Kenn take on White Night, the ninth book in Jim Butcher's Dresden Files. And between the White Court, debates of free will, and Lasciel's coin, there's plenty of discussion to be had. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

The Wheel of Time is back! Craig and Kyle (and eventually Ryan) are joined by Drew and Lauren McCaffrey, Wheel of Time experts both, to spin the Wheel of Tangents--all WoT related. Together they discuss the upcoming show, tugged braids and smoothed skirts, and in-world swearing. A relaxed, wildly self-indulgent 40 minutes, but one that we hope you enjoy. Listen to Drew on the Inking Out Loud podcast Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

It's been long enough, time to get back on that oar! Craig, Ryan, and Stephanie discuss chapters 1-55 of The Broken Eye, book 3 in Brent Weeks' Lightbringer series. Lots of questions this time around: Are we spending enough time with our villains? Is "fake it 'til you make it" a real thing? What is the most touching of human gestures? Is Ryan a monster for not laughing at Craig's best jokes? Listen and find out! Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Turns out that Utah, the home of the Legendarium, is the nerdiest place in America. To us, that just feels correct -- nerdery is the water in which we fish swim here. But the real question today is why? So Craig and Kenn brought in the big guns: Krissie Holifield, from the I Am Salt Lake podcast. Together they talk religion, drugs, geography, and grasp at any other straw they can to explain why Utah is the ultimate home for nerds. Check out the I Am Salt Lake podcast The Nerdiest State In America (TIME) Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

It's a Dresdendum! Fear not, your pleas have not fallen on deaf ears. Todd and Kenn return to talk more Proven Guilty. After the previous episode, they (and the listeners shouting politely on Reddit) knew there was simply too much left unsaid. So they're here to un-unsay it. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Blue Team is back with another Dresden Files episode! Seems like they're kicking them out faster than you can say "xenomorphic phobophage." This time around, it's book 8: Proven Guilty. In this installment, Harry's dealing with happenings at SplatterCon!!!,Todd's dealing with the weight of his own emotions (again), and the Blue Team's dealing with the question of whether the Dresden Files has taken up too much real estate in their hearts. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Do video game movies always suck? Maybe not. But they're never actually good, either. Why is that? Craig and Kyle are joined by Adam Sherlock from Deep Dive Film School to spend, oh...maybe 5 minutes teasing out the answer to the question at hand, and 45 minutes just laughing about terrible video game movies. Check out Sherlock's show, Deep Dive Film School, in audio or video form. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

The Ladies of the Legendarium are back! And this time, Stephanie, Megan, and Kate are joined by Sara Hanks to discuss Michael Ende's classic book, The Neverending Story. There's laughing and crying, and a whole lot of love -- old and new -- for this particular book. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Brent Weeks, bestselling author of the Lightbringer and Night Angel series, joins Craig and Ryan for another installment of the Author's Shelf series. Brent chose The Odyssey, and actually apologizes for making the podcast look pretentious, as though Craig didn't relish a bit of pretension. If you're looking to learn something new about The Odyssey, you're in luck! Because there are lots of other podcasts where you can do that. But if you're looking for a fun, lighthearted discussion about it, then you're in the right place. Check out Brent's website and purchase Brent's latest book, The Burning White (and the other Lightbringer books too, if you haven't) Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Two things to note about this episode: First, talking about a book like this without any spoilers has challenges, but those can be overcome. And second, turns out we're not necessarily capable of overcoming said challenges. Oh well, it's still fun to celebrate Weeks Week and the release of The Burning White. It's the culmination of the Lightbringer series, which we're in the middle of reviewing with full spoilers, but we thought we'd break in during release week of this one to give you a few thoughts and help you GET HYYYPE. Craig and Ryan discuss the book's length, how much the author can come to the forefront before it gets distracting, and whether this was where the series should have ended. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Weeks Week begins on Monday with the release of The Burning White, but we thought we'd get a jump on it by airing a few minutes of Brent Weeks spinning The Wheel of Tangents. Brent answers eight questions scientifically designed in a lab to help us get to know one of our favorite authors a little bit better. (Narrator: "There was, in fact, no lab.") Enjoy! Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

The book so nice, they discussed it twice! The Blue Team is back for a second conversation about Dead Beat, the seventh book in Jim Butcher's Dresden Files series. Megan, Todd, and Kenn talk about what it means for Harry to have true friends; how characters have reminded each other of their value; and Craig pops in to tell the panel why he's so thoroughly enjoying their Dresden episodes. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Time travel, multiverse, cryosleep, wormholes, insect aliens, utopian and dystopian futures, and many more: Craig, Kenn, and Kyle shoot the breeze for a half hour about their favorite sci-fi tropes. Honestly, not much more to it than that, but it's laying the foundation for the Blue Team to move back toward sci-fi very soon, with a series quasi-announcement that should have many listeners feeling excited. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Blue Team is back with another discussion on The Dresden Files, this time on the seventh installment: Dead Beat. Kenn's back with his recap, Megan somehow didn't see the zombie dinosaur coming, and Todd wears horrifically tight pants. There's a lot to get through in this one, so buckle up for ... well, pretty much the same kind of Blue Team episode you've come to expect. You'll just get another one later! Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

How much can we -- or should we -- separate art from the artist? Which stories would end the fastest if the protagonist weren't an idiot? What kind of music is best for reading? Craig, Kyle, and Todd take on these questions and more as they spin the Wheel of Tangents this week. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Where do we draw the line between cynicism and credulity? Is the brand of psychopathy on display by Zymun recognizable in our lives? Are we letting our internal "Kip #2" win out over our internal "Kip#1"? Ryan, Craig, and Stephanie sit down to hash out the second half of The Blinding Knife, book 2 in the Lightbringer series by Brent Weeks. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Craig and Kyle spin the wheel! Today's topics include the best way to consume books (audio vs e-reader vs dead trees); why Death of the Author is generally a stupid theory; and what they like to read outside of the sci-fi/fantasy genres. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

It's a divisive entry in the Dresden Files: Blood Rites, Jim Butcher's sixth installment in the series, apparently isn't for everyone. So did our Blue Team enjoy it? Todd, Kenn, and Megan will get down and dirty in their discussion of the book whose plot revolves around problems on a porn set. Oh yeah, speaking of which: the plot of this book revolves around a porn set, thus the discussion during this episode revolves around a plot that revolves around a porn set. Driving in the car with your kids? Heads up. But if you're ready to listen, it'll be a fun discussion. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Craig and Megan spin the Fantasy Wheel! We took several listener suggestions for topics and chose a few of them to speak about for a few minutes. Topics include: whether we can judge books objectively; fantasy speed dating; overused tropes; and our favorite antagonists. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Which is the higher good, freedom or power? Is there any nuance to be had in a discussion of the evil of slavery? Are rich people just the worst? Today we're talking through the first half of The Blinding Knife, the second book in Brent Weeks's Lightbringer series. This episode is chock full of heavy stuff -- and fun stuff! -- to talk about, and we’ll get to … well, at least some of it. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

This episode will be best heard if you can see those works of Miranda's that we reference, over at MirandaMeeks.com. Miranda is an artist whose work frequently graces the covers -- and sometimes pages -- of Brandon Sanderson's books, as well as other novels. (Several prints adorn the walls of our studio, in fact.) Her style is at once dark, accessible, and unique, and on top of that she is a wonderful conversational partner. Listen in, I think you'll enjoy this interview. Get updates about Miranda's forthcoming art book at http://nocturnebook.com Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Craig, Ryan, and Stephanie discuss the second half of Brent Weeks's The Black Prism, book 1 in the Lightbringer series. After a long setup in the first half, we get a lot of interesting questions and moments to chew on. Why is this book titled The Black Prism? Is it actually awful that the Chromeria expects a high price from their ranks of drafters? What exactly is a turtle-bear? And Craig makes at least one bold prediction for the rest of the series. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

This episode is truly a first: the first time we've ever read a historical action comedy horror parody of a 19th century classic. Oh, and it's also our first-ever ladies-only show! Stephanie and Megan welcome newcomer Kate to the Legendarium and together the three of them dissect (eww) this fun, hilarious, sometimes gory, sometimes touching book. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Craig, Ryan, and Kyle continue through The Hobbit, discussing (we're using that term as broadly as possible here) chapters eight through eleven. Without Stephanie to keep the guys on track, things get ... well let's just say it's not as polished a conversation as she might have helped provide. Together they discuss Mirkwood, giant spiders, elves, barrels, Lake Town, and opening Erebor's back door. TODAY'S SPONSOR: https://www.storyhack.com/ - Click through to get your first issue free Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

TBR = "to be read." Most of us have a TBR pile, but some of us can get a bit overwhelmed by it. For this topic, Craig, Ryan, and Kyle are joined by a special guest: YouTube sensation Daniel Greene. (And now we expect him to put "'YouTube sensation' -The Legendarium" in all of his promotional materials.) Together they discuss not only their TBR piles and how they manage them, but also what it means to read deeply and whether that can be done if one is multitasking while working through that giant stack of books to be read. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

The Blue Team is taking a deep breath before a giant Dresden plunge! In preparation for another spate of Dresden Files episodes coming up, Megan, Kenn, and Todd take stock of where they're at in the series, how they're enjoying, what they're enjoying most, and what they're looking forward to in coming books. Look forward to at least another 4-5 Dresden episodes in the coming weeks! Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Craig and Kyle discuss the thing that has kept Kyle off the show for too long now: burnout. It can sneak up on anyone, even the biggest of fans, and they talk about how to combat it. They also address a listener question about how to introduce fantasy to the uninitiated. (Spoiler alert: the answer is "slowly and carefully." Please let us know what you think of us doing more small episodes like this between out main book-centric episodes. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

(Skip to 5:20 to get to actual Lightbringer content.) Our inaugural Lightbringer discussion! If you haven't read this series, now's a good time to start, as it is highly recommended among fiction readers. With good reason, as it turns out. It's just Craig and Ryan for this one! And maybe for a lot of Lightbringer episodes coming up. Hopefully they still like each other when it's done. Anyway, in this episode Craig gives his first impressions on the first half of the book (Ryan's read the series already); they talk about what makes Kip (and Liv) a good protagonist; and Craig makes some predictions about what's to come. Oh! And Ryan wants everyone to watch the aftermath of Fabio getting hit in the face by a goose whilst riding a roller coaster. Which you can do, here. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Todd, Megan, Kenn, and Jack are all back for a wrap-up of their discussion of God Emperor of Dune, the fourth book in Frank Herbert's Dune series. And it's time for a brand new drinking game! If you are inclined to imbibe, then toss one back every time you hear the phrase "gross protuberance." Now what was already going to be a good episode just became a lot of fun, because you're living on the edge due to the very real danger of liver failure before the hour is up. Hear more of Jack on the Young Americans podcast Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Finally, with the release of Hobbs & Shaw, the 2019 summer movie season can be officially declared over. Craig, Todd, and Ryan simulcast this recording on a YouTube livestream as well, and they talk about a ton of summer media, including Tolkien, John Wick 3, Brightburn, Disney live action remakes, Dark Phoenix, Spider-Man, Toy Story 4, and more. And more. And more. No need to strap in, this is a "chill out, just relax" kind of episode. Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

On this Author's Shelf episode, David Farland joins Craig, Kenn, and Ryan to discuss Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card. We discuss a lot of characters and themes, just like normal, but we also get a healthy dose of amazing stories from Dave. You don't want to miss this one. Check out Dave's site and sign up for his newsletter here Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

Craig, Ryan, and Stephanie tackle chapters 4-7 of The Hobbit, covering the company's capture by the goblins of the Misty Mountains, Bilbo's solo adventure in Gollum's cave, his rejoining of the company and their eventual escape from the goblins via giant eagle, and the final bit of relaxation before plunging into the most difficult parts of the adventure. This episode was simulcast on YouTube live (subscribe!), so Craig was a bit distracted making all the tech work. But enjoy it anyway! Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/

For our first discussion on God Emperor of Dune, Todd and Kenn welcome Jack Butler back to the Legendarium. Jack was previously on episode 220 (a Silmarillion episode) but now he returns to establish his sci-fi bona fides as well his fantasy ones. This is our first of two discussions on the fourth book in Frank Herbert's Dune series, and we hope you enjoy it. Hear more of Jack on the Young Americans podcast Support the show on Patreon Join the conversation on Reddit Music: "Adventure Time" and "The Seven Seas" courtesy of https://www.philter.no/