The Design of Desire, with Tony Fadell and Susan Kare
The Ledger Podcast · Ledger
October 30, 202518m 35s
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Show Notes
What do the iPod, the original Mac icons, and the Ledger Nano Gen5 have in common? Design legends.
We hosted Tony Fadell and Susan Kare at Ledger Op3n 2025 to talk about their "Design of Desire" philosophy, making digital ownership human, and their work on the new Ledger Nano Gen5.
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