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Episode 50 - Beyond Cookie-Cutter Protocols: Inna Zelikman's Comprehensive Approach to Ketamine and Psilocybin Therapy
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Episode 50 - Beyond Cookie-Cutter Protocols: Inna Zelikman's Comprehensive Approach to Ketamine and Psilocybin Therapy

MAPS-certified psychiatric nurse practitioner Inna Zelikman shares how her personal psychedelic healing journey transformed her approach to individualized ketamine and psilocybin patient care.

The Ketamine StartUp Podcast

February 12, 20261h 6m

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Show Notes

What happens when a 20 year mental health veteran has her own existential crisis then undergoes her own psychedelic therapy? In Inna Zelikman's case, it completely transformed how she practices medicine.

Inna Zelikman, RN, MS, ANP, PMH-NP, is the Director of Integrative Mental Health at Recovery Without Walls and a MAPS certified MDMA practitioner. Five years ago, her own psychedelic healing journey changed everything about how she sees and treats patients. Now she's challenging the cookie cutter protocols that dominate our field in favor of what she calls an "organic" approach to treatment.

In this conversation, Inna shares her comprehensive patient assessment strategies, the medication categories that secretly block healing (even though they're not contraindications), and why some patients have profound psychedelic experiences but can still struggle.

From consulting with psilocybin centers in Oregon to treating ketamine addiction, Inna offers a nuanced perspective on the complexities of psychedelic medicine and why proper preparation, support, and integration actually matter for lasting results.

What You'll Learn:

🔹 Why doing your own healing work changes how you practice: Inna's personal journey and how it transformed her ability to truly see patient needs

🔹 Comprehensive assessment before treatment: evaluating family dynamics, support systems, and trajectory of care

🔹 The hidden medication barries: CNS depressants that don't contraindicate psychedelics but stall healing and integration

🔹 Set and setting beyond the treatment room: why the therapeutic container includes entire support systems

🔹 Real world psilocybin consulting: challenges and solutions for complex patients seeking therapy in Oregon

🔹 Psychedelics in recovery landscape - Understanding the historical bias in traditional recovery communities and emerging shifts toward acceptance of psychedelic therapy as legitimate treatment

Key Takeaways:

・Healthcare providers who address their own trauma may provide more effective patient care

・Ketamine therapy dosed based on individual patient response could benefit patients who don't improve with standard twice-weekly protocols

・Sleeping pills and benzodiazepines may prevent psychedelic therapy success even when not contraindicated

・Patients may need 1-4 weeks of integration support during the neuroplasticity window for optimal results

・Comprehensive patient assessment including family dynamics and support systems may improve treatment outcomes

・Traditional recovery communities may be slowly shifting attitudes toward psychedelic therapy, though bias still exists against viewing these treatments as legitimate healing tools rather than drug substitution

Episode 50 show notes:

00:00 Teaser - How Healing Informed Patient Care

00:28 Episode Introduction

02:16 What Drew Inna to Psychedelic Medicine

04:38 The Problems with Modern Psychiatry

07:38  Inna's Personal Transformation Story

11:53 The Hero's Journey to Healer's Journey

16:02  How Personal Healing Transformed Patient Care

17:08 Comprehensive Assessment Process

20:20 Beyond Cookie-Cutter Protocols

22:32 Ketamine Therapy Dosing Philosophy

26:00 Psilocybin Work and Vision Story

28:52 Oregon Psilocybin Industry Challenges

31:33 Set and Setting Beyond the Room

33:07 Patient Screening and Assessment Criteria

35:17 The Hidden Medication Problem

42:31 Managing Complicated Cases 

49:33 Patient Examples

55:43 Psychedelics in Recovery and AA

1:00:04 Rapid Fire Personal Questions

1:03:18 Contact Information and Services

1:04:49 Closing Thoughts

1:05:56 Resources

Thanks for listening

📋 Educational Disclaimer: Content for licensed healthcare professionals only. Does not constitute medical advice. Always consult qualified professionals for specific patient care decisions and regulatory requirements.

Connect with Inna Zelikman RN, MS, ANP, PMH-NP:

[email protected]

www.innazelikmanhealth.com

Recovery Without Walls

📝 Complete show notes with resources and  links, please visit www.ketaminestartup.com/podcast/episode-050


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