70: Walking in Dead Man’s Forest with Michael Marvosh
December 22, 201853m 20s
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Show Notes
This deep conversation with Michael Marvosh explores meaning and life lessons with prompts from nature and our own life experiences.
Mentioned in This Episode
- ConvertKit Conference (where John & Michael met)
- Stephen Warley of Life Skills That Matter
- Mike Vardy of Productivityist
- Michael’s podcast called Deadman’s Forest
- The exploration of existence and meaning
- Being intentional about sharing what he has learned from his life instead of letting those things die with him
- Everyone has unique wisdom and experiences
- Recording process and open air recording studio
- Giant trees along the coast of Northern California
- Stout Grove at Jedediah Smith Redwoods State Park
- The enormity of the trees how perspective is somewhat hard to come by
- A similar feeling of awe that you’d feel walking into a huge cathedral
- Makes you think of things bigger than yourself
- Gaining the perspective and the value of realizing that we are not the center of things–feeling that bigger thing
- Michael shares about his vision fast ceremony and the shape it took
- Following the ideas about who you are or what you might do
- Acting on them and finding meaning through that action
- Life is a series of “transitions”–our modern day society doesn’t do a lot to mark or celebrate these events
- Committing to a future version of ourselves
- Crossing the threshold
- Often the first step forward towards what we really want or changing is committing–even when things aren’t 100% clear.
- More “knowing” comes from committing
- People who struggle to achieve a particular skill are often better teachers of it compared to people who naturally succeed–struggle can be an advantage (John borrows this from Steve Chandler)
- The Story of You (And How to Create a New One) by Steve Chandler
- Embracing mindsets that take us in productive directions
- At Michael’s request John shares some of the biggest lessons from his life so far:
- Grappling with Christianity
- Figuring out what I want to do and what I’m good at
- Compassion and empathy with grappling
- Embracing the tensions and unresolved questions of life
- Accepting and leaning more into who John is
- Getting to the bottom of what’s true for John and what he really believes
- L’Abri Fellowship in Switzerland–“honest answers to honest questions”
- Being satisfied with imperfection
Resources
- School of Lost Borders facilitated Michael’s vision fast ceremony
- Reach out to Michael if you’d like to have a conversation with him (use the form at the bottom of the page)
- Dead Man’s Forest podcast
The Trees are Big
More about Stout Grove in this 2019 article from the Oregonian: Dip your toes into California’s redwoods at the incredible Stout Grove trail
Credits
All songs licensed under Creative Commons
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