The Jim Wallis Podcast

Yale University sociologist and author Phillip Gorski explains how White Christian Nationalists wove together stories from the Bible to create a theological justification for white supremacy, how current economic and political conditions have created a perfect storm for White Christian Nationalism to thrive and why it is not just a fringe movement.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

A political ideology is rising that distorts the Christian faith and America’s constitutional democracy — and poses dangers to both. This episode features an live event sponsored by Georgetown’s Center on Faith and Justice with: The Most Rev. Michael B. Curry, Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church; Amanda Tyler, executive director of the Baptist Joint Committee; Dr. Samuel Perry, Associate Professor of Sociology, University of Oklahoma. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This episode is a recording of a TED-style talk Rev. Jim Wallis delivered this fall in Atlanta, Georgia. In it, Wallis talks about growing up in segregated Detroit as a young person -- and how crossing the color line educated him about the troubles and trials of Black life in America. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On this very special episode of The Soul Of the Nation, we revisit our conversation with best-selling author Heather McGhee which was recorded in July of 2020 during the aftermath of the George Floyd murder and the beginning of the onslaught of COVID-19.How did white people justify racism for so long in this country? Heather McGhee, talks with Rev. Jim Wallis about the legacy of racism in the United States and the lies that allow America’s original sin to be perpetuated to this day.“The whitewashing and posthumous glorification of our society's agitators allows for contemporary people to pretend that they back in that time would have had a clear moral stance,” says McGhee. “And that, I think, is a temptation that allows people in the contemporary moment to justify their own ambiguity or hostility towards the agitators of today. So often in conversations with white people about Jim Crow and about slavery, they act as if, of course they would have been one of the good guys back then.... What is lost is how much the justifications for the status quo always evolve and change.”“There were reasons that good, upstanding, moral white people gave themselves and their children for why segregation made sense,” continues McGhee. “It was about crime. It was about poverty. It was about God's will. It was about the natural order of things. And when you focus on what the possible justifications could have been, as opposed to just saying, ‘old people in the past were evil,’ then you might start to recognize some of those same justifications for the status quo today.”See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this very special episode of Soul of the Nation, we revisit our conversation with Robert P. Jones, from July 2020.Robert P. Jones, CEO and founder of the Public Religion Research Institute and the author of White Too Long: The Legacy of White Supremacy in American Christianity, speaks with Rev. Jim Wallis about how white American Christianity and white supremacy collaborate throughout our nation's history. Jones says, "[Racism is] very, very deep in [white Christian] theology and it's going to take more than a couple of potlucks with the African American church down the street. It's going to take a serious reconsideration of evangelical theology top to bottom. I liken it to something like a bone marrow transplant. It's so deep that you basically have to kill the immune system and bring someone close to death in order to finally bring them to health. I think that's the situation we're in after hundreds of years of this being built into the very DNA of white Christian identity in this country."See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

E.J. Dionne, Jr. a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, syndicated columnist for the Washington Post, and Georgetown University professor explains how universal voting could help alleviate some of the deeper problems plaguing our democracy, including voter suppression, rampant polarization and political apathy. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week on the Soul of the Nation, Jim Wallis speaks to Mark Magana, founder and CEO of GreenLatinos, a network of Latino environmental advocates, about why more than 80% of US. Latino voters say the global climate crisis is their greatest–or one of their greatest–concerns. Jim and Mark also spoke about how unprecedented barriers are being erected to disenfranchise Latino voters in several key states across the country and why some Latinos broke for Donald Trump in the 2020 presidential election. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Anne Nelson is author of the book “Shadow Network: Media, Money and the Secret Hub of the Religious Right,” which examines the history of a secretive group called the Council for National Policy. The council, a mix of money men, religious fundamentalists, political operatives and media moguls, includes Mike Pence, Kellyanne Conway and Wayne LaPierre of the NRA. As Nelson explains, its goals are curtailing civil and political rights for women and minorities, giving tax cuts to the rich, and white Christian domination of our politics. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kristin Kobes Du Mez, a New York Times bestselling author and Professor of History and Gender Studies at Calvin University, reveals why white evangelicals have become Donald Trump staunchest supporters, even after his lies about the election, his multiple affairs and his decidedly un-Christian behavior before, during and after his presidency. Challenging the commonly held assumption that the “moral majority” backed Donald Trump for purely pragmatic reasons, Du Mez reveals that Donald Trump in fact represents the fulfillment, rather than the betrayal, of white evangelicals’ most deeply held values. In her memorable phrase: White evangelicals say they love Jesus, but they follow the example of John Wayne. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

During her time at Fox News, Kirsten Powers once ground her teeth so hard that she cracked a molar. That was the Road-to-Damascus moment for the author and columnist when she decided that -- even when dealing with political adversaries– we must approach them with grace.“I am talking about this very transformative kind of grace, which is really for the people we don’t like and may even hate. Grace helps you see the humanity in them because you are separating them out from your rage and your anger about what they are doing,” says Powers.So how do we hold people in power accountable and call out political misdeeds without losing our sense of grace? Powers has some ideas.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dr. Eddie Glaude, chair of the Department of African American Studies at Princeton University, reveals how religion contributes to racial bigotry in America. “What are we fighting about? It's these basic ideas that all men and women are equal. White supremacy has overdetermined, distorted, disfigured democracy in this country,” says Glaude. “The situation that's at the heart of the rot of the polity isn't resolved.”Glaude and Rev. Jim Wallis discuss the need to shatter our illusions about the myth of equality and the role religion can play both in the redemption of American democracy. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In conversation with Rev. Jim Wallis recorded before a live audience at Georgetown’s Center on Faith and Justice, Rep. Jamie Raskin, who serves on the Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th attack on the U.S. Capitol, made international news when he said the investigation's findings will “blow the roof off the house.”“It is a story of the most heinous and dastardly political offense ever organized by a President and his followers and his entourage,” says Raskin. Raskin also spoke about the trauma surrounding the tragic death of his son and why our democracy is in peril.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Harvard professor Steven Levitsky, author of How Democracies Die, says, "Our politicians have not yet come to grips with the fact that the house is on fire, that our democracy is directly threatened. And that if we don't behave as if there is a crisis, if we don't step outside of the box of normal politics, we will lose. Or at least, we are at risk of losing our democracy."In order to preserve our democracy in the face of attacks by White Christian nationalists, Rev. Jim Wallis says that we need to build a "multi-faith, multiracial, and multi-generational” movement.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Representative Terri Sewell and Senator Reverend Raphael Warnock discuss their ongoing battle to protect voting rights for people who are at risk of losing their franchise to participate in our democratic elections.“People talk about how divided our country is,” adds Senator Warnock. “Both Democrats and Republicans are saying that something is broken in our Democracy. How can we not have a debate about it in the United States Senate?” Rep. Sewell urges all citizens, “to vote, volunteer, organize, turn out, and elect people who will do the right thing.”Listen to these two voting rights leaders advocate for the protection of the integrity of our democratic system of government.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jim Wallis is the Inaugural Chair of Faith and Justice at Georgetown University's McCourt School of Public Policy and Founding Director of the university’s new Center on Faith and Justice.As part of our work at the Center on Faith and Justice, we are happy to share that The Soul of the Nation podcast will be returning to full production. In our new season Democracy in Peril–launching Wednesday April 20, 2022 – we will examine the efforts playing out at the state, local, and federal levels of our government to thwart the will of the people and chip away at the democratic foundations of the country. This campaign has created a test of moral conscience and faith. You will hear conversations with people who are working tirelessly to support the voting rights of all people; to counter the despotic efforts of aspiring autocrats and the minority of Americans who support them; andto expose and challenge the ideology and false religion of white Christian nationalism that is at the root of this crisis. Faith and Justice are the twin pillars that support and sustain advocacy for marginalized communities and for the moral dimensions of civic spirituality. Through honest debate and careful discernment, we hope to provide you with the tools needed to join us in our efforts to raise our nation to its lofty – but yet unrealized – ideals of Justice, freedom, and liberty for all. We are seeking your support to help spread the message of The Soul of the Nation and invite your communities to subscribe, rate, and review this podcast…..Blessings to you for The Soul of the Nation.  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this very special repeat episode of The Soul of the Nation, Roman Catholic sister, author, and social justice advocate, Helen Prejean speaks with Rev. Jim Wallis about the executions of federal death row inmates by the Trump administration. Sister Prejean shares how she became one of the pioneering leaders in the movement to abolish the death penalty. She tells her 30-year journey and how she keeps faith and hope after witnessing countless death penalty executions."The hope is in the people," Sister Prejean says. "I have to say, getting out of that execution chamber that night in the dark I remember thinking very clearly, the American people are good people. They're buying into this only because they don't know what's going on."See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On this very special episode of The Soul of the Nation, Rev. Jim Wallis revisits his conversation with Most Rev. Michael Curry, the Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church. They discuss our current political and moral crisis, whose antecedents are even longer than the very history of our country itself. Wallis and Curry share King's vision of a beloved community and a multi-racial democracy, while charting the path to redemption and reconciliation in the wake of the violent insurrection at the U. S. Capitol.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On this very special episode of The Soul of the Nation, Rev. Jim Wallis revisits his conversation with Dr. Francis Collins, the director of the National Institute of Health, during this critical time of the Delta Variant of the coronavirus.Rev. Wallis and Dr. Collins break down the current state of our country with COVID-19 and how the faith community can help with vaccine distribution and messaging. Dr. Francis Collins shares his journey of religion and science, and how he's found his harmony between the two."It's heartbreaking. Most people I don't think associate themselves with those extremes but they haven't necessarily found a lot of opportunities to discover the harmony. And one of my small goals here since I began writing about this was to try to put out there that this is an unnecessary conflict. In most polls to Americans [asking]do science and faith have anything in common? Can they get along? You'll encounter a lot of skepticism, which is hurting us as individuals, as families, as communities, and as a country."See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On this special edition of The Soul of the Nation, Rev Jim Wallis revisits his conversation with Heather McGheeAuthor of the New York Times bestselling book, The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together, Heather McGhee speaks with Rev. Jim Wallis on the impacts racism has on our economy, changing the narrative, she says, goes hand in hand with comprehensive policy."There's this sense of stinginess, miserliness that nothing about our people are worth investing in unless they're already rich," McGhee says. "And that belief right and a hierarchy of human value is so racialized."See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On this very special episode of Soul of the Nation, Rev. Jim Wallis talks with ice cream entrepreneur and social justice advocate Ben Cohen (of Ben and Jerry's) about ending the systemic violence committed by police across the United States against communities of color.   Cohen advocates for the end of qualified immunity for police and the demilitarization of police forces across the country. “We, the taxpayers, are paying these police departments to hire consultants that come in--former military--that do these seminars with police called ‘warrior training,’” says Cohen. “And in that training, the police are encouraged to see the people they're policing as the enemy, and they're encouraged to be able to kill.”See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

uthor of Without Oars: Casting Off into a Life of Pilgrimage, Wesley Granberg-Michaelson shares his reflections on recent violence in Israel and Palestine with Rev. Jim Wallis. Granberg-Michaelson offers insight to help open the eyes for people of faith."Do we see the people that are involved at the most grassroots level.? Do we get beyond all the politics and actually see the people?" Granberg-Michaelson further explains, "For Americans, and for U.S. Christians, we have to be honest and say, in this conflict it is the Palestine people who so often we have not seen.”See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Vice President of AACC and author, Michelle Reyes speaks with Rev. Jim Wallis about her new book, Becoming All Things: How Small Changes Lead To Lasting Connections Across Cultures. Reyes discusses the Christian community and the uprise of targeted hate crimes against the AAPI community in America."The Asian community has been targets of systemic racism, from exclusion of immigration of the United States, to lynching, to killing, to stealing our wealth, to being sexualized and fetishized, and so much more." Reyes further explains, not just the 3,800 hate incidents that were reported, but all the other incidents that for which [the] Asian community have never been given permission, where we felt safe to articulate our pain."See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Author, Chuck Collins speaks to Rev. Jim Wallis about his latest book, The Wealth Hoarders: How Billionaires Pay Millions to Hide Trillions. Collins sheds light on the architecture of wealth inequality and the spiritual consequences of hoarding wealth."Privilege is a disconnection drug, it keeps you apart from people. Wealth and privilege can create a boundary or a wall around your life and the antidote is connection."See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hyepin Im, the founder and president of Faith and Community Empowerment, talks with Rev. Jim Wallis her experience as a Korean American woman of faith in the U.S. Hyepin speaks about the long history of hate Asian Americans have endured, and how the pandemic has so gravely effected the Asian American community."When they talk about America, there's no picture of us, on TV, on stage, in the media; it leads to us always feeling like we don't have a say. We don't belong. And that has tremendous trauma," Hyepin says.  "For so long we've been told constantly that we are a foreigner, we don't belong. And so by not belonging then people can do things to us because we don't belong."See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Award-winning author and preacher, Diana Butler Bass speaks with Rev. Jim Wallis about her latest book Freeing Jesus. Diana shares how her experience of Jesus has changed over the years and how the Christian that is she is today is much different than she was before.And according to Bass, many people are eager to experience Jesus in a new way. “I often hear people who tell me ‘Oh, I’m no longer a Christian.’ ‘I just can’t be a Christian anymore,’ ‘I just can’t do church any longer, it’s just so hypocritical,’” says Bass. “But they almost always say, as a follow up to that, but I still love Jesus and I still want to follow Jesus.”See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dr. W. Franklyn Richardson, senior pastor at Grace Baptist Church in Mount Vernon, N.Y., and author of Witness to Grace: A Testimony of Favor, speaks with Rev. Jim Wallis about how to reject injustice and racial inequity. The greatest legacy of the African American struggle in these 400 years, is the determination of African American people to seek full inclusion in a society that has not been deterred, Richardson says, "not by the strange fruit on the trees, not by dogs biting, not by hose pouring in, not by even the rhetoric of a president of the United States in modern times."See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) is a forceful, progressive voice in the United States Congress. Focusing on matters of social and economic justice, international relations, and human rights, Lee speaks with Rev. Jim Wallis on how she finds the strength to speak out even when standing alone."This is not about personal responsibilities for the enslavement of Africans, this is about our system of government," Lee says. "The United States of America had a legal system that enslaved Africans, which through the ages, through the generations manifested in so many ways that are so deadly. And we will never get to the healing phase of this democracy until we tell the truth."See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jim Wallis, in conversation with William Matthews and Allison Trowbridge, explores the themes of Chapter Ten, “Salt and Light” from his new book Christ in Crisis: Why We Need to Reclaim Jesus.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Author of the New York Times bestselling book, The Sum of Us: What Racism Costs Everyone and How We Can Prosper Together, Heather McGhee speaks with Rev. Jim Wallis on the impacts racism has on our economy, changing the narrative, she says, goes hand in hand with comprehensive policy."There's this sense of stinginess, miserliness that nothing about our people are worth investing in unless they're already rich," McGhee says. "And that belief right and a hierarchy of human value is so racialized."See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jim Wallis, in conversation with William Matthews and Allison Trowbridge, explores the themes of Chapter Nine, “The Discipleship Question” from his new book Christ in Crisis: Why We Need to Reclaim Jesus.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jim Wallis, in conversation with William Matthews and Allison Trowbridge, explores the themes of Chapter Eight, “The Peacemaker Question” from his new book Christ in Crisis: Why We Need to Reclaim Jesus.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Dr. Leana Wen is an emergency physician and public health professor at George Washington University. Wen speaks with Rev. Jim Wallis about the current state of the pandemic in the United States and its public health implications. She shares what she is hopeful for and her major concerns with trust and vaccine distribution."Building trust is not going to happen over night," Wen says."We also, as the medical community, need to show that we are trustworthy. There are communities that have real historical reasons for distrusting the medical and scientific community."See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jim Wallis, in conversation with William Matthews and Allison Trowbridge, explores the themes of Chapter Seven, “The Caesar Question” from his new book Christ in Crisis: Why We Need to Reclaim Jesus.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Rev. Jim Wallis and the director of the National Institute of Health, Dr. Francis Collins break down the current state of our country with COVID-19 and how the faith community can help with vaccine distribution and messaging. Dr. Francis Collins shares his journey of religion and science, and how he's found his harmony between the two."It's heartbreaking. Most people I don't think associate themselves with those extremes but they haven't necessarily found a lot of opportunities to discover the harmony and one of my small goals here since I began writing about this was to try to put out there that this is an unnecessary conflict. In most polls to Americans, do science and faith have anything in common? Can they get along? You'll encounter a lot of skepticism, which is hurting us as individuals, as families, as communities, and as a country."See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jim Wallis, in conversation with William Matthews and Allison Trowbridge, explores the themes of Chapter Six, “The Fear Question” from his new book Christ in Crisis: Why We Need to Reclaim Jesus.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jim Wallis, in conversation with William Matthews and Allison Trowbridge, explores the themes of Chapter Five, “The Power Question” from his new book Christ in Crisis: Why We Need to Reclaim Jesus.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jim Wallis, in conversation with William Matthews and Allison Trowbridge, explores the themes of Chapter Four, “The Truth Question” from his new book Christ in Crisis: Why We Need to Reclaim Jesus.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

im Wallis, in conversation with William Matthews and Allison Trowbridge, explores the themes of Chapter Three, “The Image Question” from his new book Christ in Crisis: Why We Need to Reclaim Jesus. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In honor of the life and legacy of Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Rev. Jim Wallis and Most Rev. Michael Curry, the Presiding Bishop of the Episcopal Church, discuss our current political and moral crisis, whose antecedents are even longer than the very history of our country itself. Wallis and Curry share King's vision of a beloved community and a multi-racial democracy, while charting the path to redemption and reconciliation in the wake of the violent insurrection at the U. S. Capitol.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jim Wallis, in conversation with William Matthews and Allison Trowbridge, explores the themes of Chapter Two, “The Neighbor Question” from his new book Christ in Crisis: Why We Need to Reclaim Jesus. book.sojo.netSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Jim Wallis, in conversation with William Matthews and Allison Trowbridge, explores the themes of Chapter One, “What About Jesus?” from his new book Christ in Crisis: Why We Need to Reclaim Jesus. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Roman Catholic sister, author, and social justice advocate, Helen Prejean speaks with Rev. Jim Wallis about the recent and upcoming executions of federal death row inmates by the Trump administration. Sister Prejean shares how she became one of the pioneering leaders in the movement to abolish the death penalty. She tells her 30-year journey and how she keeps faith and hope after witnessing countless death penalty executions."The hope is in the people," Sister Prejean says. "I have to say, getting out of that execution chamber that night in the dark I remember thinking very clearly, the American people are good people. They're buying into this only because they don't know what's going on."See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Reclaiming Jesus Now with Jim Wallis is a ten-episode podcast series on the themes of Jim Wallis’ new book, Christ in Crisis: Why We Need to Reclaim Jesus. Wallis is joined by two voices from a rising generation of activists, William Matthews and Allison Trowbridge, who seek to reconcile their own spiritual journeys with the spiritual and political crises we face today.Jim Wallis’ new book, and the conversations in this podcast, are organized around eight urgent and provocative questions Jesus Christ asked or provoked while pursuing his call: The Neighbor QuestionThe Image QuestionThe Truth QuestionThe Power QuestionThe Fear QuestionThe Caesar QuestionThe Peacemaker QuestionThe Discipleship Question These questions confront all of us with an invitation and a choice. How will you respond?book.sojo.netSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Rev. Jim Wallis speaks with Rev. Wes Granberg-Michaelson about his latest book, Without Oars: Casting Off Into a Life of Pilgrimage. Rev. Wes Granberg-Michaelson shares ways people of faith can embrace the journey through the unknown and the uncomfortable as a way of life. "We are so prone to planning and control, to wanting outcomes. But there are times when we have to step out without knowing and having any assurance of what the outcome will be and opening the space where we can ask the questions that we most need to ask. One of the questions I love and share is: Why are you who you are, where you are?" See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Rev. Jim Wallis speaks with Rev. Brenda Salter McNeil about her latest book, Becoming Brave. McNeil shares how to find the courage to pursue racial justice now and her leadership in the church during the Black Lives Matter movement."This conversation is not a national conversation we're having, it's a global conversation," McNeil says. "And the whole world is watching and waiting to see if the church is going to come or not. And my prayer is that our answer is going to be a resounding, 'yes we're here. We cannot not come.'"See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Rev. Jim Wallis speaks with president of the National Latino Evangelical Coalition and co-lead pastor of The Gathering Place, Rev. Gabriel Salguero about the Latinx vote. Gabriel discusses where the evangelical Hispanic vote is going in this election and the mindset behind the Latino/Latina voter."I think that one of the things that I want to underscore is that faith is essential to Hispanic voters. It's not an addendum, it's not a footnote." See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Politics in Washington, D.C., is often antithetical to the teachings of Jesus. Rev. Jim Wallis and Rev. Rob Schenk, the president of the Dietrich Bonhoffer Institute, discuss the spiritual cost of placing access to power above the gospel.Schenk recalled, "I was present sitting at a table when it happened in Cleveland, during the Republican National Convention. I was at the table and a colleague, a very well-known evangelical leader who had run for president himself, turned to me and said, 'Look, we'll plug our noses. We'll cast our vote for Donald Trump. And then we'll go and puke if we have to.' And that was the deal. It was a corruption of the soul. It would give us access and ability to manipulate the levers of power, but it would exact a huge price from us."  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Rev. Jim Wallis speaks with the founder and director of the Initiative on Catholic Social Thought and Public Life at Georgetown University, John Carr. Rev. Jim Wallis and John Carr discuss human life and dignity, as well as Pope Francis's recent public statement supporting of same-sex civil unions. "When I was growing up, the test was whether you agreed with the pope, not whether the pope agreed with you," Carr says. "And I think we've got some people in our community who basically are looking for the pope to embrace their ideological agenda or their political preferences, and they're going to be disappointed no matter what party or ideology they champion."See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In this special SOTN episode, Rev. Jim Wallis joins Peter Eisner and Jonathan Winer, hosts of District Productive's Unconventional Threat, to discuss Lawyers and Collars, an initiative that seeks to ensure that everyone--including our most vulnerable citizens--is able to safely and effectively exercise their right to vote."Faith leaders have to put their moral authority on the line, and join with those who are willing to stand with them to protect the image of God in all of our citizens."To hear more episodes from the Unconventional Threat podcast click here: https://apple.co/3lE3AhzAnd follow the podcast on Twitter at @UncoThreatSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Rev. Barbara Williams-Skinner, co-founder of Skinner Leadership Institute and Co-Convener of the National African American Clergy Network discusses with Rev. Jim Wallis ways to get involved and take action politically and spiritually for the upcoming election. Rev. Barbara Williams-Skinner shares how to protect your vote and ultimately the image of God."The Country is only as strong as it treats the most vulnerable citizens, right now we are a weaker country because we are robbing not just black and brown people but elderly people."See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.