The Grove Podcast

In this episode, Shelley Giglio sits down with international speaker, best-selling author, and spoken-word artist Hosanna Wong for an honest conversation about faith that doesn’t feel like a spiritual show. Hosanna shares stories from her upbringing in San Francisco, her dad’s faithful street ministry, and the surprising ways God produces fruit across generations. Together, they explore why so many of us feel stuck — confusing our “God life” with a perfect quiet-time ideal while our real life is full of deadlines, laundry, and responsibility. Together they explore a powerful picture of flourishing through the lens of vineyard growers, and how to nurture your life with God in whatever season you’re in. We pray that this conversation will help you release comparison, repent of pace and pressures God never asked you to carry, and take one simple step toward a real relationship with Him — today. The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this rich and encouraging conversation, Shelley Giglio is joined by Christine Caine to talk about flourishing in a world that often feels heavy, chaotic, and hard. Inspired by Christine’s new book, The Faith to Flourish, Shelley and Christine explore the biblical imagery of the olive tree and what it teaches us about being rooted in Christ, bearing lasting fruit, and thriving even in difficult places. Christine shares why this message feels so urgent for women right now, especially after years of disappointment, distraction, and spiritual fatigue. Together, she and Shelley talk about abiding in Jesus, resisting the false definitions of flourishing that culture offers, and building a life that can withstand suffering when it comes. They also have an honest and thoughtful conversation about healing, therapy, prayer, the role of the local church, and why deep roots in Jesus and His people matter more than ever. Christine reflects on her own story of trauma, healing, cancer, friendship, and faith, reminding listeners that flourishing doesn’t mean life is easy — it means Jesus is enough in every season. This episode is a hopeful invitation to stop languishing, put down deeper roots in Christ, and become women who produce fruit, freedom, and shade for the people around us. The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of The Grove Podcast, Shelley Gigilo sits down with her friend and longtime Grove girl, Jennie Lusko. Jennie Lusko is a best-selling author, podcast host, wife, mom of five, and she pastors Fresh Life Church alongside her husband, Levi. Shelley and Jennie have a heartfelt conversation about becoming the women God designed us to be. Together they reflect on the surprising ways God prepares us for our callings long before we understand them, and how flourishing often comes through seasons of difficulty, perseverance, and small acts of obedience. Jennie shares candidly about marriage, motherhood, loss, and the slow, steady growth that happens when we plant ourselves in community. Shelley offers wisdom on practicing obedience, cultivating awareness, and fighting the good fight of faith — even when we don’t feel it. Their conversation is full of encouragement for women who are in the in-between seasons, waiting for fruit, longing for clarity, or navigating the tensions of real life. It’s a reminder that God is faithful in every step, and that we flourish best when we walk together. The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of The Grove Podcast, Shelley Giglio sits down with her dear friend and a long-time Grove girl, Courtney Pray Duke, to celebrate the release of Courtney’s book And She Got Up : Shattered by Loss, Restored by Jesus and to trace the journey that shaped it. Courtney shares how everything changed in her life the day Andrew died in a bicycle accident — an instant that turned a bright day into “the darkest night of the soul.”With honesty and tenderness, Courtney recounts the disorienting fog of grief, the fight to keep going for her three young children, and the unexpected ways God met her in the lowest moments. From a pivotal encounter with God at Passion 2013 to the daily practice of anchoring her life in scripture, Courtney unpacks how faith can be tested in the fire — and how God’s presence can become most real in the valley.Shelley and Courtney also talk about the power of community, learning to speak truth out loud, and the long obedience of writing the story down. Ultimately, this conversation is an invitation: if Jesus brought life to her story, He can bring life to yours too. And She Got Up releases on February 24, but you can pre-order your copy today. Learn more at AndSheGotUp.com and keep up with Courtney on her Instagram @CourtneyPrayDuke.The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What kind of legacy are you building? Where does it begin?In this honest conversation, Dr. Crawford Loritts joins Shelley Giglio to talk about faith, family, and the work of God that will shape generations. From the role of prayer in parenting to the importance of repentance and humility before God, this episode is a reminder that lasting legacy is not built on perfection, but in surrender to Jesus.Dr. Crawford shares deeply personal stories from his own life and family, reflecting on the power of prayer, the role of repentance in parenting, and the importance of staying faithful to what God has asked you to do. They discuss how spiritual legacy is formed over time through obedience and reverence for God, not through strategy, perfection, or performance.This conversation offers wisdom on breaking generational cycles, embracing God as Father, and choosing to become what you did not receive.Whether you’re a parent or simply longing to break generational patterns, this conversation will encourage you to start where real transformation begins – at the feet of Jesus.The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

When life doesn’t go as planned, how do we keep trusting that God is still good?In this episode, Shelley Giglio is joined by Grammy-nominated artist Natalie Grant for a vulnerable look at surrender, trust, and identity. Natalie shares how walking through thyroid cancer, a diagnosis that threatened her voice, became a catalyst for her deeper faith, helped her root her identity in Jesus, and how she’s learning to release control in motherhood and life. Whether you’re walking through uncertainty or just need a reminder that God is near, this episode will encourage you to pause, remember His faithfulness, and rest in His presence.The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit TheGroveOnline.com to get connected._____The Christmas GroveDates: December 8 + 9 Time: Doors open at 6:30p | Gathering starts at 7:30pLocation: Passion City Church // 515 Garson Dr., Atlanta, GAVisit TheGroveOnline.com/Christmas for more information. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In a brand new episode of The Grove Podcast, Shelley Giglio is joined by the brilliant and bold Jackie Hill Perry for a conversation about faith, formation, and the unexpected places God does His deepest work.Together, Shelley and Jackie unpack the wrestle with ambition, the gift of hidden seasons, and how God often meets us in our lack to show us that He alone is enough.They explore the importance of spiritual disciplines — not as rigid rules but as pathways to freedom, relationship, and fruitfulness. And they encourage us to believe that God really does use every part of our story to make us more like Jesus.Wherever you are — leading, waiting, hoping, or trying your best to believe — it’s our prayer that this conversation will lift your eyes to His presence and His power at work in your life.The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What does it look like to raise children with faith, grace, and courage in a world full of fear and comparison?In this heartfelt conversation, Shelley Giglio sits down with DeAnza Duron—pastor, mother of seven, and grandmother to twenty-one—to talk about the power of grace in motherhood, the gift of trust in God’s plan, and the daily choice to live in peace instead of fear. Together, they discuss the foundational truths of parenting—keeping a clean heart, anchoring your home in God’s Word, and raising children to love and serve others. They also tackle fear, trust, and joy—reminding every woman listening that peace is possible, joy is worth fighting for, and choosing life in Jesus changes everything.With warmth, humor, and deep faith, DeAnza shares stories of raising her kids (including her daughter and fellow Grove girl, DawnCheré Wilkerson), practical wisdom for moms in every season, and the reminder that God fills in every gap we miss. DeAnza’s stories will remind you that you don’t have to get everything right—because God fills in the gaps. From French toast breakfasts and scripture at the table to singing “Turn Your Eyes Upon Jesus” at bedtime, she shares how simple, faithful rhythms shape generations.Whether you’re a mother or simply someone learning to trust God with what you can’t control, this episode offers encouragement to fight for joy, walk in courage, and believe that grace is always enough. The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What does it really mean to flourish based on scripture? In this episode of The Grove Podcast, we hear from Shelley Giglio, Daniele Flickinger, and Susan Robinson for a heartfelt conversation about the beauty God brings when we allow Him to work in every part of our lives.Through honest reflection and wisdom, they share how God transforms even the most barren seasons into places of growth and grace. This conversation invites you to release what you’ve been holding onto, make space for God’s work in your heart, and remember that flourishing doesn’t always look like flowering – like we read in Psalm 92, God compares us to palm trees and reminds us that flourishing can look more like strength than beauty.The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of The Grove Podcast, Shelley Giglio is joined by friend of the Grove, Christine Caine for a truth-packed conversation about spiritual maturity, living in intentional community and what it really means to say “yes” to Jesus—again and again.We talk about choosing spiritual depth over performance, prioritizing God's purposes over our personal preferences, and building friendships that reflect His heart—even when it feels hard or inconvenient in the season we're in. Christine also shares powerful stories of what Jesus is doing in churches across the globe and how hearts are awakening to the real Jesus— hungry for hope and truth.Whether you’re learning to stay rooted in hard seasons or wondering how to finish strong, this episode will stir you toward transformational and intentional, abundant living. The Grove is an extension of all God is doing through Passion City Church to serve and disciple women everywhere. For more encouragement, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This one’s for you who’s longing to be known. Today, we are joined by dear friends of The Grove— Rachel Baldwin, Kerri Stanfill, and Susan Robinson— for a vulnerable conversation about what it really means to be seen, loved, and surrounded by a real community. But where do we begin? How do we create a space where people feel safe to be known — not only when we win, but also when we ache?Through wisdom and practical encouragement, Rachel, Kerri, and Susan invite us to go first — in vulnerability, in confession, in reaching out, in showing up. They discuss the power of presence, the courage it takes to initiate, and why we don’t have to have it all together to start forming or maintaining our meaningful relationships. For the woman longing for deeper friendship but unsure where to begin, this episode is filled with grace and guidance for taking that first brave step.Whether you’re flourishing in community or feeling forgotten on the sidelines, you’ll leave this conversation reminded that you’re not alone. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode, we’re joined by the wise and wonderful Lisa Harper — author, Bible teacher, and one of the most joy-filled voices in the Church today. With her trademark humor and heartfelt honesty, Lisa shares a powerful conversation with Shelley Giglio about theology, friendship, and the beauty of living in a deep community connection. Lisa opens up about her early struggles with inadequacy and how, for a time, theology became a mask she wore rather than a lens through which she could truly see Jesus. But as God gently reshaped her heart, Lisa began to understand that real theology is deeply relational, all about knowing Christ and letting that knowledge transform our lives. In this conversation, Lisa lets us into how that revelation has impacted her view on community, and challenges us to do the same. She also gives us a glimpse into what God is doing through her Kerygma Conference and her new book, “A Jesus Shaped Life.” In true Lisa Harper fashion, this episode is filled with both deep belly laughs and powerful theological truths, serving as a reminder to us that theology isn’t just for classrooms or scholars, but for every woman longing to know Jesus and walk with Him more closely.The Grove is an extension of all God is doing here at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia, to serve and care for women everywhere. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of The Grove Podcast, Shelley Giglio sits down with the legendary CeCe Winans — the best-selling female gospel artist of all time — for a heartfelt conversation about legacy, surrender, and what it really means to live a life marked by Jesus.CeCe’s voice and influence have shaped generations of worshippers, but it’s her deep love for Jesus and her desire to reflect Him clearly that shines most. She shares honestly about the challenge of dying to self, the joy of walking humbly with God, and the kind of legacy she hopes to leave — not of fame or applause, but pure faith in Jesus. Whether you’re in a season of building, leading, parenting, or simply learning how to abide, CeCe’s words will stir your heart toward a legacy that reflects Christ.The Grove is an extension of all God is doing here at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia, to serve and care for women everywhere. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of The Grove Podcast, Shelley Giglio sits down with our friend Alex Seeley — co-founder and lead pastor of The Belonging Co in Nashville — for a powerful and honest conversation about uniqueness, leadership, and the beauty of following Jesus wholeheartedly.Together, they dive into what it really means to lead in a way that reflects the heart of God — not through platforms, but through shepherding, discipleship, and community. Alex shares from her own journey in ministry, offering wisdom on embracing your God-given identity, navigating hurt, staying faithful in your calling, and even a few honest thoughts on parenting.This conversation is full of truth, grace, and encouragement — and it ends with a beautiful prayer for healing, courage, and a renewed passion to love and lead like Jesus.The Grove is an extension of all God is doing here at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia to serve and care for women everywhere. To learn more follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit us at thegroveonline.com to get plugged in today. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this episode of The Grove Podcast, we’re joined by our friend DawnCheré Wilkerson, co-lead pastor of Vous Church in Miami alongside her husband, Rich. Known for her joy, authenticity, and deep love for Jesus, DawnCheré brings a tender and timely word on the topic of waiting.She sits down with Shelley Giglio to share honestly about what it means to wait well—from navigating long stretches of uncertainty, to staying obedient when life takes unexpected turns, to choosing joy even when the answers don’t make sense. DawnCheré also opens up about her own infertility journey and how it helped shape the message of her new book, Slow Burn. This conversation is full of gentle encouragement, real-life wisdom, and a beautiful reminder that God is at work—even in the waiting.The Grove is an extension of all God is doing here at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia to serve and care for women everywhere. To learn more follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit us at thegroveonline.com to get plugged in today. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

A conversation held live at The Grove on October 4, 2024, continues with Shelley Giglio, Visionary of The Grove, Daniele Flickinger, Director of Grove + Flourish, and Susan Robinson and Courtney Pray Duke, Grove Leadership Team members, who have all been vital leaders in building this community of women as an extension of all God is doing in and through Passion City Church. In this episode, Shelley leads another profound discussion with Daniele, Courtney, and Susan to encourage women of God to lean into His Word in various seasons of life in motherhood, grief, and forgiveness. They share testimonies of radical faith and healing through every mountain and valley circumstance while sharing encouragement around the power of having a strong, personal relationship with Scripture. If you desire to be rooted in Scripture and grow in deeper community with women in Atlanta, GA then consider being a part of The Grove Collective: A Bible Study on How to Flourish. This Bible Study is a bi-weekly opportunity for women to be rooted in The Word of God and grow in their walk with Jesus together. Available at all Passion City Church Atlanta locations. Learn more at thegroveonline.com/collective.The Grove is an extension of all God is doing here at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia to serve and care for women everywhere. To learn more follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit us at thegroveonline.com to get plugged in today. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

A conversation held live at The Grove on October 4, 2024, Shelley Giglio, Visionary of The Grove, Daniele Flickinger, Director of Grove + Flourish, and Susan Robinson and Courtney Pray Duke, Grove Leadership Team members, have all been vital leaders in building this community of women as an extension of all God is doing in and through Passion City Church. Kicking off Year 12 of The Grove, they come together to share the power of remaining rooted in The Word of God through a growing knowledge and understanding of the truth it offers us. In this episode, Shelley leads a profound discussion with Daniele, Courtney, and Susan to encourage women of God to enjoy His Word for themselves. They share testimonies of radical faith and healing even in the trenches of life circumstances while sharing encouragement around the power of having a strong, personal relationship with Scripture. As incredible women of God, these ladies share with us their experiences of spiritual growth in keeping biblical truth as their foundation.If you desire to be rooted in Scripture and grow in deeper community with women in Atlanta, GA then consider being a part of The Grove Collective: A Bible Study on How to Flourish. This Bible Study is a bi-weekly opportunity for women to be rooted in The Word of God and grow in their walk with Jesus together. Available at all Passion City Church Atlanta locations. Learn more at thegroveonline.com/collective.The Grove is an extension of all God is doing here at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia to serve and care for women everywhere. To learn more follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit us at thegroveonline.com to get plugged in today. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Lysa TerKeurst is president and chief visionary officer of Proverbs 31 Ministries and the author of seven New York Times bestsellers, including Good Boundaries and Goodbyes, Forgiving What You Can't Forget, and It's Not Supposed to Be This Way. Her latest book is I Want To Trust You, But I Don’t (October 2024, Thomas Nelson). She enjoys life with her husband, Chaz, and her kids and grandkids. Connect with her at www.LysaTerKeurst.com or on social media @LysaTerKeurst.In this episode, Lysa engages in a conversation with her friend and Grove visionary, Shelley Giglio, about trust, skepticism, and using discernment in relationships. Lysa beautifully explores the tension between self-preservation and gospel-driven healing through her own testimony of continued forgiveness as a pathway to freedom. Together, Shelley and Lysa unpack practical ways to move forward from places of hurt and how to invite life-giving community back into your life when fear feels overwhelming. The Grove is part of the Passion City Church family here in Atlanta, Georgia. Follow @pcc_thegrove on Instagram and visit thegroveonline.com for more information around The Grove heartbeat. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jackie Hill Perry is a podcaster, speaker, author, wife, mother, and no stranger to The Grove Podcast. She and her husband, Preston Perry, have been married for 10 years and have four beautiful children, Eden, Autumn, Sage, and August. In addition to raising their precious kiddos they are totally and completely on mission together for the Global Church. They host and lead a podcast called, With The Perry's where both of them share on theological topics and discussions. Jackie has been diligently helping women everywhere walk in freedom with her ability to deliver The Word of God in both captivating and engaging ways. Her Bible Studies are some of the most sought after tools Christians resource for diving into Scripture.In this episode, Jackie Hill Perry has a conversation with Shelley Giglio on humility & surrender. They talk about living a life that exemplifies following God with acts of "simple godliness" in honoring a spouse, raising children, and being mindful of our interactions with others. Jackie even offers how this narrow road of living can be difficult and gives examples in her own life where she needed to trust in this Truth. Her transparency is so refreshing and will offer us a chance to review our own lives in this way. To learn more about Jackie, you can follow her and her beautiful family on IG @jackiehillperry You can also listen to her podcast alongside her husband, Preston, titled With The Perry’s and available now you can pick up her latest resource Upon Waking: 60 Daily Reflections to Discover Ourselves and the God We Were Made For in stores and on audiobook.The Grove is part of the Passion City Church family here in Atlanta, Georgia. Follow @pcc_thegrove on Instagram and visit thegroveonline.com for more information around The Grove heartbeat. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.