The Visit (2015)

Today we got another naked old lady horror film to talk about!!! We are covering M.Night Shyamalan's Found-Footage movie The Visit from 2015

Jordan: Dye supposed to go, like, right out of the music into that, but it.

Chris: Will sound like that later on. I spelled a welcome with two L's on accident.

Jordan: Well, welcome.

Chris: All right. Welcome to the Grindhouse Syndicate. I'm your host, a pile of shitty adult diapers. And that's my co host, a wooden shed. And today we're doing another crazy naked old lady movie. M. Night Shyamalan's. The visit from 2015. We got our second naked old crazy lady movie.

Jordan: Yes, we do two or three weeks.

Chris: Yeah, when we do X, like, two weeks ago.

Jordan: Those naked old ladies are fucking creepy, man. I've noticed. Those are big hits. And horror movies actually have that down to talk about. You think about it. What horror movie has had a naked old lady? That wasn't creepy?

Chris: Do a good job with that.

Jordan: The Shining.

Chris: Oh, yeah. The Shining does have a naked creepy old lady in it.

Jordan: Yeah, it's always a big hit.

Chris: It is a big hit. What is?

Jordan: Fuck.

Chris: They don't ever have naked old men, thank God. How do you feel about being the co host of Wooden Shed?

Jordan: I guess I'll take it I'm full of shit. Better be full of shit. Diapers.

Chris: Shitty adult diapers. Yeah, the intro will make sense in, I don't know, 1520 minutes into the plot here. Well, first we'll get on to some news.

Jordan: We don't have a lot of news.

Chris: But we got some news. We'd like to include something to keep you in the know. So the Texas Chainsaw Massacre video game just dropped a couple of days ago, actually. And it is for the PC, the PS four, the PS five, all the PS's and the Xbox. It has an average score of a six out of ten. And get this, Kane Hotter did the motion capture for Leatherface and Grandpa in the game.

Jordan: Nice.

Chris: Did you know that?

Jordan: I did not know that.

Chris: I just found that out today.

Jordan: I'll check that out.

Chris: Yeah, I've been kind of keeping track of it because I want to play it. It's real similar to the Friday the 13th game. The difference being, instead of in the Friday 13th, it was just one killer being Jason, and, like, five, everyone else just played as the people trying to escape. In this, you play one person plays Leatherface, and then there's two of his family members. So you got, like, three killers and, like, four or five victims. I believe there's, like, three maps, which is, like, the House, the Butcher, the Butcher Factory, whatever that's called. And then there's like a third map. I can't think of what it is, but I've been kind of keeping track of it because I want to play it. It's got its bugs. It's got its issues. It just came out. Overall, it's pretty good. People are enjoying it. People like it.

Jordan: Everything has its bugs when they first come out now.

Chris: Yeah, especially anything on the Internet that relies on the internet.

Jordan: Yeah. It's weird thinking back when we were kids, the game came out and that was the game.

Chris: That was it.

Jordan: Now it's just there's so many bugs when something first comes out that being able to update the game is huge. I'm sure for developers.

Chris: Yeah, I'm sure that they're going to go in in the coming weeks or coming months to kind of work all this stuff out. All the bugs that I heard about it is pretty much internet related. It's all internet stuff. It's like games suddenly crashing or your character will freeze in a game and then you get kind of booted out from the game, like in the middle of it. Just stuff like that. Just standard internet shit.

Jordan: Never get as bad as warzone. It will not.

Chris: Yeah, that game's always got problems. But yeah, I like the whole Kane otter thing. I think that's super cool. So the Grandpa in the know, he's the Grandpa from the doesn't he doesn't do anything. They said he did the motion capture for the Grandpa, and as far as I know, all the scenes of the Grandpa. So one of the objective for the killers is every time they kill one of the other gamers, the victims, they take a little bit of their blood and they run it over to Grandpa, who's just stationary in a chair. He's not played by anybody. And you give him some of the blood. And as you give Grandpa the blood, you as a killer because each killer has a special and that special gets stronger. So that's like an incentive to give him the blood. How that is connected, I don't know, but it's a game.

Jordan: Well, I'm glad to hear that somebody has not happened to play Grandpa, because that was my first thought. Like, damn, that sucks for the guy who gets picked to play Grandpa.

Chris: Well, what did Kane Hodder do for the motion capture? Just sit in a chair, probably.

Jordan: He's already here, but I'll take it anything Kane Hodder does is normally pretty good.

Chris: I did see, though, that so Kane Hodder actually did play Leatherface in the third movie, actually a long time ago. He was a stunt guy for the third one. So that is, I guess, one of the reasons they kind of picked him to do it. He had played Leatherface in real life before. Didn't know. That news to me. Another thing was The Nun two received its R rating for violence and disturbing bloody images. It has released three short TV teaser trailers and it hits theaters September eigth coming up quick. Yeah, I know. There's a lot of big Nun fans out there. Yes, she is very creepy. Very interesting character. Big time. For the what franchise?

Jordan: The Conjuring. Conjuring. Wait, we actually have a painting? The painting from the conjuring. Dude, the Nun hanging up in my living room.

Chris: I would say she's the most popular from that franchise. Yeah, from what I understand. I'm not, like, a huge fan of it, but it seems like if you were to pick one image to represent that franchise, I think it'd be her. I don't know. The Annabelle is really popular, too, though. But I think maybe the nun might be more might be more popular.

Jordan: Yeah. So I guess they take place in the same like, they're the same, the Annabelles and the conjuring, but they're also kind of separate. The conjurings are at least based off of the actual cases, whereas the Annabelles are just made up stories that kind of separates them for me.

Chris: Yeah. So we did go and finally see Talk to Me. We won't get into a lot of it because we want to do something separate for it. But we will say, great movie. Phenomenal movie. One of my favorite movies, I think, for this year. Go see it.

Jordan: Yes, absolutely. Definitely go see that. That is a fantastic movie.

Chris: I will say a little bit of news with that movie was I guess the movie got banned in Kuwait. I guess one of the actors in the movie in real life is a trans person. We've seen the movie. Them being trans is not part of the movie. It's not part of the plot. But I guess they're trans in real life. And the government of Kuwait did not want to promote that. So they banned the whole entire movie for the whole entire country.

Jordan: It's insane. Their government actually sat down and that was a whole thing. Yeah.

Chris: It's not in the movie. It's not in the movie at all. So this actor did comment on it, I think, today or yesterday, and they were like, well, it's not even part of the movie. So we didn't think it would be a big deal. I would agree. It's not even then the plot's not mentioned. It's not even said one time in the movie. And sorry for the people of Kuwait. I guess you'll have to get on one of those illegal sites and watch it or something.

Jordan: Yeah, that sucks.

Chris: It does suck.

Jordan: It's a good movie, though. I actually can't wait for that movie. I know we're going to do a short episode on it, but I can't wait for that one to come out and do actually a full episode on it.

Chris: They have already released a steel book set for it, and it is $109. And it comes with the actual hand.

Jordan: Okay, well, that makes the 109 a little more worth. It depends on how I have to see a review on it, though. Is it like shitty plastic?

Chris: No, it's a big book. It comes with, like three or four discs. It comes with the actual hand.

Jordan: I mean, the hand is the hand like shitty plastic? Yeah.

Chris: I don't know. It's a big hand.

Jordan: That's much better than the Terrifyer two steel book that they got me on that I ordered. Because most of the steel books have like really cool artwork. And then I got Terrifyer Two in and it was just the same exact artwork.

Chris: This hand that comes with this is molded from the hand from the movie. It comes blank. It doesn't have anything written on. It comes a little marker for you to kind of write. It says for you. I guess what's written on the hand is a bunch of victims names, which I didn't really catch in the movie. But, yeah, it's for you to kind of write your own friends and family's names all over the hand.

Jordan: That's pretty cool.

Chris: But yeah, it's a whole entire set. It's not just the movies. It's like a bunch of shit from the movie. But yeah, I think there's only like 5000 of them made and they just kind of released it to purchase or preorder or something like that. But I thought that was real cool.

Jordan: Yeah, that is real cool.

Chris: But let's talk about the visit. So I hadn't seen The Visit since I think I bought it when it first came out. I want to say I think I've seen it, like 2016. I didn't see it in theaters. I know that I went and got it on DVD because I had heard he had made a pretty good movie. I know he had some not good movies before that, and I heard it was pretty good, so I went out and I got it on DVD. And I think this was 2016, if I remember right. And I hadn't really watched it since. And I had actually forgot that it was a found footage movie.

Jordan: That's the first thing I have in my note. I watched it four years ago and for some reason, when I think back on it, so I know that there was some found footage in it, but I forgot the whole thing. It's actually a found footage movie.

Chris: Yeah. If somebody would have, I don't know, quizzed me or something and said, did M. Night ever make a found footage movie? I'd have said, no, I got that wrong and I have it. I own it.

Jordan: Yeah, when I think of found footage movies, it's just not one that comes to mind. It will now, but it just wasn't one that would have came to mind.

Chris: Yeah, totally. Just I don't know, man. I just based on it being a found footage movie, I don't know. I don't know why I don't remember that it's a found footage movie. Yeah, first thing on the notes. I just don't know why I don't remember. It doesn't have that found footage feel that a lot of those movies have, though. I don't know what it is. I can't really pinpoint it.

Jordan: Yeah, I agree.

Chris: I think maybe I'm going to take a guess and think maybe that is because in this movie you have two characters and they both have cameras. So there are times in this movie where we're getting two different because they'll be in two separate places, doing two separate things, experiencing two separate events. And we're getting those cameras from and that's that normally of a found footage movie. Found footage movie is normally kind of the same person behind the camera with the same people in front of the camera and continuous.

Jordan: Yeah. I don't know. I think it might be that the first half of this movie has a lot of not so serious moments, too. It just doesn't feel like a found footage horror that you would normally think of that would come to mind. But there is some moments that are really like there's a specific moment we'll get into in the plot that was 100% Paranormal Activity vibes.

Chris: I mean, it's definitely a found footage movie. It just, for some reason, just I don't know, it has a slightly different vibe than every other found footage movie I've seen.

Jordan: I think the last quarter of it definitely feels like a found footage movie. The first three quarters, two thirds, something like that, maybe not so much.

Chris: But yeah. So The Visit is an American found footage horror film written, co produced and directed by M. Night Shyamalan. And it is starring olivia DeLange, Ed Oxenbold, Dina Dungan and Peter McRobbie. So the film centers around two young siblings, teenage girl Becca and her younger brother Tyler, who go to stay for a week with their estranged grandparents. During their stay, the siblings notice that their grandparents behaving bizarrely, and they set out to find the truth behind the strange circumstances at the family farm. This movie was released on September 11, 2015 by Universal Pictures. It had a $5 million budget and it grossed $98.5 million worldwide, made 25.4 million on its opening weekend, and it received mixed to positive reviews from critics.

Jordan: That's a good return, I'll take it. I know I probably say that every week you go for what they made, but that's pretty good. I wouldn't have thought it made that much.

Chris: Yeah, it turned 5 million into almost $100 million. That's a big deal. After his previous two films failed, shyamalan funded The Visit by borrowing the $5 million against his own home. Filming began on February 19, 2014, under the original title, Sundowning. So, yeah, he funded the movie himself, turned around, and it made almost $100 million.

Jordan: Yeah, I've seen him and Jason Blum were the main producers on it.

Chris: Yeah. So I didn't really include a whole lot of that stuff in there. But Jason Blum came in way later. M. Night Shyamalan actually did this movie by himself. And then once he made the movie, he shopped it around and nobody wanted it. He actually kind of freaked out that he was going to lose the 5 million because he couldn't get anybody to get it. He did multiple cuts of this movie trying to get maybe a different cut somebody would want. He actually even wrote down he kept track of all the executives that turned him down.

Jordan: I wonder if Blumhouse were the ones who primarily did distribution on it since they didn't have a whole lot in the actual producing of the movie. I wonder if they did distribution for it.

Chris: Yeah, I can't quite remember. But I do know that he pretty much did it himself. Even the normal people that had been working with him through all of his films, he didn't really use any of those people. He pretty much stated that he wanted this to be a real small thing. And he wanted this to kind of be like a start over for him because he had gotten so used to getting these big budget movies, these big budget actors. And he would just sell these movies. Like these movie companies were just shelling out money to him. And then all of a sudden they just weren't doing well. And he wanted to just do something completely different.

Jordan: Well, good for him. He succeeded for $5 million. This is a great movie. $5 million.

Chris: We'll talk about later on. At the end, we'll talk about why he did that. Because some people have a much different there's like a much different idea of why he did this. And we'll talk about later on his actual reason of why he did this. Because it's not what everyone thinks it is.

Jordan: Does everybody think he was just going broke? Yes. That's the first thing that comes to mind.

Chris: Yeah, he was a failure. And he went from making these huge, big budget movies. They had failed. And essentially everyone was like, well, no one would fund him anymore. And he had to basically borrow this $5 million against his house and fund the movie himself. And basically this was his last shot. And that's not at all what happened. But we'll talk about that later on. But yeah. So ratings, Rotten Tomato gave us a 68%, INDB gave it a 6.2 out of ten, and Letterbox gave it a three out of five stars. It was all right.

Jordan: It ain't bad.

Chris: Yeah, I kind of think it's a.

Jordan: Little low for me.

Chris: All those sit pretty well with me. That's a little insight into what's come later, then, I guess. Sayo you want to jump into the plot?

Jordan: Yeah.

Chris: All right. So my very first note was before I even started the movie, which has never happened to me before, never wrote anything before I even hit play. This has actually happened before I even put the movie in. So the COVID of the movie is hilarious. It says what Jaws did for sharks and Psycho did for showers. The visit will do for grandparents.

Jordan: Was that from a critic?

Chris: No, it's a sticker or something on the fucking cover. It's not in here.

Jordan: Yeah.

Chris: After this episode, go look at it. And I'm like, so this is going to make everyone scared of their grandparents?

Jordan: If you never met your grandparents, it might.

Chris: Who the fuck approved that?

Jordan: If you're going to spend time with your grandparents that you've never seen or met. Do not watch this movie the night before.

Chris: This very unique situation that rarely happens to anybody. This movie will freak you out.

Jordan: It rarely happens to anybody, but it has happened to somebody.

Chris: Just thought that was just so weird to put on the COVID Yeah, I.

Jordan: Know how some movies put, like, critiques and critics whenever they get, like, good rating.

Chris: Yeah, it wasn't a quote.

Jordan: That's weird. I would have to be a quote.

Chris: I would have put it down if somebody had put it as a quote. No, this is just like a statement that they put along with the movie. Yeah, it's printed on the COVID from what I remember.

Jordan: Outside of that, I don't remember that. But I do like the COVID The aesthetic of the COVID looks really cool.

Chris: Yes. I bet you that this is on the movie poster. I bet you the movie poster says this.

Jordan: Yeah, I hope not.

Chris: I bet you it does. Nobody probably ever reads that.

Jordan: They only had five.

Chris: It's next to, like, the rocking chair.

Jordan: They only have 5 million. They couldn't pay for a really good quote.

Chris: I don't know if it's supposed to be funny.

Jordan: Well, that's one thing about this movie. The first half, three quarters does have a very comedic feel with some creepy parts.

Chris: Oh, we're going to talk about that.

Jordan: Yeah, we're going to talk about that. That's not my favorite part of the movie, that's for sure. We'll just say that.

Chris: Well, that comes into play a little later. But anyway, so the plot of this movie so the movie starts off with Loretta Jameson giving a documentary style interview about how she fell in love with her English teacher after high school and they wanted to run off and get married. And her parents strongly disagreed with this decision, which yeah, no shit. That's kind of weird. Doesn't really say they were ever, like, fooling around while she was in high school, but I would assume probably were.

Jordan: Yeah, there was some illegal shit happening there. Yeah.

Chris: I mean, there's more of this story than what's? But but anyway, so this ends up leading to a big fight between her and her parents to which Loretta refuses to disclose the details of what occurred that day. And this ultimately leads to her and her parents never speaking again. I believe she says it's 15 years they haven't spoken. And Loretta explains that her and this teacher had two children together and they were married for ten years. And then suddenly he meets someone else and he leaves her and the children behind and severs all contact with all three of them. And so very recently, Loretta's parents reached out to her via the Internet and asked if they could meet their grandchildren and have them stay a week at the family farm where Loretta grew up. And she originally doesn't like this idea, but the children pretty much tell her that they're going to go anyway. They're going to do it. I guess they're going to run away. They don't really stay, but she doesn't want to let them go. And she ends up having to let them go anyway. So she does do some background check, though, on her parents and sees that they're like counselors and they got their shit together and they still live where she grew up. And I guess she feels fairly safe letting them go. And she's up for it.

Jordan: She's like, this is going to be a perfect time for me to take a yeah, yeah.

Chris: She's got her new boyfriend, too, so they're gonna take a cruise together. But Loretta's daughter, Becca, she is making a documentary on the whole situation. And she thinks that she can kind of mend the relationship between her and her Loretta, her mom, and her grandparents, her mother's parents. So the two kids, they board a train and they head off to meet their grandparents for the first time ever. And while on the train, we are introduced to T Diamond Stylist.

Jordan: God damn it, I hate.

Chris: I may mess up and call him T Diamond Styles because when I was typing this, the computer kept autocorrecting it to Styles. Because I agree, Stylist is like a title. Maybe not a name, but yeah, T Diamond Stylist. I turned the captions on and read it to make sure that that is what they were saying. That is his name, T Diamond Stylist. And that is Tyler's rap persona.

Jordan: Yeah.

Chris: And we get a little taste of his rap while we're on the train.

Jordan: The worst, by far the worst part of this movie.

Chris: All the women love him. That is what he raps about.

Jordan: I will reference this probably a couple of times, but I fucking hate this kid. This is where a majority of the comedy that I feel like is not needed, that bring the rating down, come from this kid, but just the character. I just fucking hate it. It is so cringey.

Chris: It is very cringe.

Jordan: Like, my eyes almost water watching it. It's so fucking cringey. Yeah.

Chris: Not a great part of the movie. And it pops back up quite a few times in here. But this is our first taste of T Diamond styles. Stylist. T diamond stylist.

Jordan: Who fucking cares?

Chris: But anyway, so Becca and T Diamond, they meet their grandparents at the train station, and they will refer to them and we will refer to them through the rest of this as Nana and Pop.

Jordan: Yeah, I went back and forth. I just went with Grandma and Grandpa for half my notes. And then I'm like, nobody's going to get that.

Chris: Nana and Pop typing it out. What's? Way shorter than Grandma and Grandpa.

Jordan: Well, I just put GPA.

Chris: So they all head to the farm and they become a little more acquainted with each other, where Becca pretty much tells him about her documentary and T. Diamond raps about receiving a lot of sexual attention from women. And pineapple upside down is they they.

Jordan: Tell him to rap. He's like, pick anything I'll rap about. They pick pineapple upside down cake. And he raps about women the entire time. This kid's like fucking 10, 12, 13. Well, according to the plot close enough. Yeah, it's like 13. He just met his grandparents for the first time in his life and he's doing a rap about women and stuff that 13 year olds clearly aren't doing. And then they wanted to rap about pineapple upside down cake and it is the worst shit I've ever heard in my life. And he just ends it with the word pineapple upside down cake. And it didn't even make sense. I'm going to end my rant there. This kid sucks. I mean, he sucks.

Chris: Yeah. So he gets a fist bump from pop up, doesn't he?

Jordan: I don't know, I was too busy thinking about how much I want to kick this kid's face on.

Chris: Well, anyway, so later on, pop up informs them that they're old and they go to bed at 930. And hey, by the way, don't leave the room after 930 and stay out of the basement because there's a mold problem down there. So we have hit our first red flag. Anytime someone says, hey, don't leave your room after this time and don't go into this whole entire section of the house, you should be worried.

Jordan: Yeah, so far they seem like typical old people. So the 930 thing, not really surprising. Like old school, their generation and their old people. But yeah, I did take note of the basement. Like, anytime somebody tells you to stay out of the basement or to stay out of a certain room, you remember some stupid excuse, you should probably have your guard up.

Chris: I don't know. You remember when we were kids, though? We had a certain family member we would visit every now and then they tell us not to go into the basement.

Jordan: The basement monster.

Chris: That was what it was.

Jordan: Yeah, it was the basement monster. I was good bit. I was younger than you.

Chris: The reality was they were like, you don't live here and we don't want you fucking with our stuff.

Jordan: I was probably like four and five then and I was petrified of the basement monster. Somebody went down there and even pretended to be a basement. I started banging on stuff one time. Maybe they were hiding bodies.

Chris: Well, the difference was they weren't like, hey, there's some mold. Don't go down there. They were like, there's some shit that'll kill you down there. This is different. But the two discover that there is no cell signal on the farm, but they do have internet access in the kitchen via an ethernet cable that they can connect to the laptop.

Jordan: Man, those new ethernet cables, they got.

Chris: What, a time 2015. And the only connection with the outside world you have is probably just a regular telephone and a very long Ethernet cable in the kitchen.

Jordan: And these old people probably thought they had the new shit. They were like, we just got those Ethernet cables last year.

Chris: So they video chat with Loretta and assure her that everything's going great and that she should enjoy her cruise vacation with her boyfriend. And I just want to point out that Skype in 2015 or in 2023 has never fucking looked or worked that good ever.

Jordan: Absolutely not.

Chris: Not even almost like a YouTube video doesn't even play that damn smooth. Like, that thing was perfect. It was perfect.

Jordan: It must have the good Ethernet, I guess.

Chris: But yeah, all the Skype scenes, I'm like, yeah, get out of here, man. You guys could have made that a little more realistic. At least made it kind of shitty.

Jordan: $5 million budget, man. They didn't have the money to go in and make it look shitty.

Chris: Skype must have paid him. Like, don't make our stuff look bad. But later that night, Becca gets hungry for some homemade cookies, and she decides to break the coming out of the room rule. And she starts to venture down the stairs into the dark. And this is where we see Nana sleepwalking while projectile vomiting.

Jordan: Yeah. What the fuck is this? If I seen this, I would be like, we need to call 911. I like it. Yeah, I will give it to him. And that's one thing that's going to be a reoccurring theme in this movie that makes it really good, is the creepy scenes are creepy fantastic. And that's what makes this movie what it is. For me, this was the first one that was really like, holy shit. Like, you're looking down a stairwell in the dark, and you got this old lady you just met in a nightgown just projectile vomiting over and over again.

Chris: Yeah, because I didn't really remember a whole lot from this movie. I feel like I just remembered her just kind of, like walking around being weird or banging on the walls or something. And then when I seen her down there and just start spewing, I was like, oh, okay, this is great. I like where this is going. But the next morning, Becca asks Pop Pop about the incident, and he kind of shrugs it off as a 24 hours stomach bug.

Jordan: Just gets sick sometimes. That was his exact quote.

Chris: But later on in the day, the kids decide to play a game of hide and seek underneath the house like their mom used to do. So this is funny. When they go to start the game, becca calls Tyler her ethnically confused friend.

Jordan: Did you catch fucking hilarious. That's funny.

Chris: I was like, oh, so white people can't, like, rap? White people can't do rap music. That was saying.

Jordan: Well, if you based it off of him no, they can't.

Chris: He shouldn't. But.

Jordan: My question. Is who the fuck plays hide and go seek under a house?

Chris: Well, you can't stand up, so I'd think that would suck. But whatever.

Jordan: Yeah, that would be terrible.

Chris: So Nana surprises them by joining the game unannounced and being creepy as fuck. That's all I wrote about it. I don't know how else to describe it.

Jordan: Yeah, creepy as fuck there is.

Chris: I mean, creepy as in the daylight. Creepy as fuck. That's hard to do.

Jordan: Yeah. They're under the house and she's like chasing Becca. And you see a unfocused shot of her crawling behind her, of Nana crawling behind her. Thought that was as far as the cinematography goes. That was a fantastic shot. Her unfocused in the background crawling. Yeah.

Chris: Because they don't really know that she's down there with them at first. And they're kind of like listening for each other and looking out for each other. And she's got this creepy silent spider crawly shit going on. And then she'll do this crazy witch laugh thing behind them. Oh, man. It's good.

Jordan: I would be absolutely petrified.

Chris: Yeah, it's good stuff.

Jordan: And then we get the first glimpse of Nana's ass cheek.

Chris: Oh, yeah. When she comes out, her dress is ripped in the back and she's somehow not aware of it.

Jordan: Yeah. She does all this creepy stuff and then just pops up. And she's like, I'm going to bake a pot pie. And then turns around and walks in with her ass cheek hanging out. Yeah.

Chris: And the kids are kind of like, well, I don't know. Is this weird or is this not weird? We don't really know because we don't really know these people.

Jordan: Now that's weird. Any grandparents that crawl and laugh like that? I guess as under.

Chris: You don't know that though. You don't really know people. Haven't been alive that long.

Jordan: If at 13 I was under the house and grandma started spider crawling at me, laughing like that, I would be like, something is terribly wrong here. Yeah.

Chris: So after this, there's kind of a middle aged man. He kind of stops by the house and he's looking for Nana and pop up. He claims to work at the hospital they volunteer at. And they haven't shown up in a few days. And he kind of has a big news that he wants to tell him about that happened at the hospital. He said he'll stop by again another time. And he heads out, I guess. I don't remember why they weren't there. They weren't there at that time.

Jordan: They were walking. They were taking a walk or something.

Chris: Well, there's another time later on, somebody else stops by and they're taking a walk then too.

Jordan: Yeah, they do walk. Some people come by apparently. But this ends up kind of a hint.

Chris: That's why I included it's. A little bit of a hint.

Jordan: Yeah. This is one of the couple that are this movie does so great at making these really subtle.

Chris: But yeah, so during the past few days, tyler has been noticing Pop Pop making short trips to this small shed on the property. And he decides to take the extra camera and sneak into the shed and see what Pop Pop is keeping in there. And a few minutes after Pop Pop leaves the shed, tyler goes inside. And what he is anticipating is seeing a dead body. Think he says that he's looking for something creepy, thinks something's up in there.

Jordan: He should have checked the basement.

Chris: And instead he finds a very big pile of adult shitty diapers.

Jordan: A very big pile is an understatement. When I seen that, it was like, pile the amount of flies that would have been in that pile of shitty diapers. He walks in. He's like, it smells like ass in here. And then turns, I would say the biggest pile of shitty diapers you ever seen.

Chris: Well, he holds that one up, and there's like a lot of shit in that one diaper.

Jordan: It is a full on shit.

Chris: I think that's like three full on shits that was probably front and back of that diaper is covered in shit.

Jordan: It's probably a good 100 and 5200 pounds of just shit diapers. Anybody who's had kids knows how heavy those diapers get. You're talking about for adults, it was really fucking weird.

Chris: It's a big pile. That's all I got to really say about it's. A big fucking pile of shit diapers. And obviously, adult diapers are bigger than child diapers. So it's just a lot. It's a lot. He freaks out. He runs out. Nana kind of catches him out there, but she explains to him that pop up shits himself. She doesn't say shit himself, but essentially.

Jordan: He has accidents and he hides them in the shed.

Chris: Yeah, he's embarrassed about it. And he hides them in the shed. And what she guesses is he burns them in the field.

Jordan: Yeah. For the circumstances, I guess that's the best thing you could come up with. Because he just has accidents and he tries to hide him in the shed. I guess that in that situation, I'd be like, okay, that kind of makes sense. That's still really weird.

Chris: Well, they do a really good job of kind of bullshitting, these two, for quite some time.

Jordan: They do. Yeah.

Chris: I'm not going to lie.

Jordan: You spend this whole movie really or the first half of it, first half thinking, just getting bullshitted. Are they just some old people who are just getting old and have some old people shit going on? Like shitting yourself.

Chris: Yeah. So later that night, Becca and Tyler both hear some scratching sounds out in the hallway. And it's after 930. Keep in mind it's after 930. And they get freaked out and decide to open the door to see what it is. Tyler opens the door to find Nana naked in the hallway, scratching at the wall.

Jordan: Yes. Also another one really creepy fucking scene. Oh, man.

Chris: She's her versus Pearl naked grandma fight.

Jordan: Telling you, it's always a hit.

Chris: Pearl is fucking vicious.

Jordan: I did think about X, but X was a little different because there's old people sex. But just any naked old women is just old people in general. I won't just say just women. I don't want to be sexist any naked old people, period. It's really fucked up in that scene before that, too. Another really weird scene at the school where he attacks that guy that's kind of like a foreshadowing of some mental illness and some paranoia. Yeah.

Chris: They go out into the town and he claims that some random guy is following them. And he just kind of he beats.

Jordan: This young guy's ass, though. He throws him to the ground.

Chris: He's like, are you going to tell people? I shit myself. He knows what I've been keeping in that shed.

Jordan: Somebody was in my shed. I know it my shed.

Chris: And it was that son of a bitch right there. I know it. But the next day, Becca asks Pop Pop about the situation, and he decides to tell her the truth. Well, he says he's going to tell her the truth. He tells her that Nana has a syndrome called Sundowning, which causes her to have a severe form of dementia kick in at nighttime. And pretty much once it's past 930, she loses her fucking mind, I guess, is a better way to explain it.

Jordan: Yeah, that's pretty accurate.

Chris: But while he's explaining this to her, becca realizes that Pop is having problems with his mind as well, and he may be suffering with some form of a mental issue as well.

Jordan: He's like, dressing for this party.

Chris: He's getting dressed for a dinner party.

Jordan: Yeah.

Chris: In the middle of the afternoon.

Jordan: He realizes what he's doing. It's at this point in the movie where you're like, okay, they're fucked up. Yeah. There's some more than just regular old people stuff going on here at this.

Chris: Point in the movie. The first time I watched it, I definitely didn't expect what ends up happening. But at this point, I'm thinking, okay, well, they're crazy. They've lost their mind, and they are going to eventually try to kill these kids. I just didn't expect it. That twist at the very end, why they actually tried to kill these kids.

Jordan: Yeah, the ending, it's fantastic in this movie. But yeah, the first time you watch it, they do a really good job of leaving subtle hints. This is their mom's parents, who you've never met. She has a bad relationship with them. I mean, a lot could happen in 15 years. You don't know if those are good or bad people, but it's very clear that they have some good or bad. They have some serious mental issues at this point in the movie. Yeah.

Chris: One great thing is, I think I told you last night after I finished the movie, was I obviously remembered this twist ending for this movie. But there was this really important part of that plot that I had completely forgotten. And when I watched it last night, I was like, oh, shit. That part of it surprised me as well. And we'll get to that here in a little bit. But I had totally I don't know if I missed it the first time I watched it or if I just didn't remember it.

Jordan: But, yeah, I'm pretty sure. So the same exact thing happened to me. So when we get there, I'm pretty.

Chris: Sure it's going to be probably the same thing.

Jordan: But I even went back and watched a couple scenes.

Chris: Yeah, it's terrified, but it makes the story even more interesting. Becca tries to get Nana to do an interview for her documentary, but she refuses at first, instead asking Becca to climb inside the oven to clean it, which is weird. And she does this it excites. Like, she gets in this apparently very big oven. Like, you got to have a big.

Jordan: Fucking biggest fucking oven.

Chris: You get a whole entire person inside of it and close the fucking door.

Jordan: But this is like an oven you would see in, like, a big ass restaurant. I would imagine it's the biggest oven. What is she, like 1516 years old? She climbs all the way inside.

Chris: It seems like some room to spare.

Jordan: Yeah. I don't remember if it's this or later on in the movie, but this is one thing I do remember. When this movie was coming out, this was a major part of the previews that they showed was I think it's this one, her trying to convince her to get an oven at this point, based off the previews, you know, they're up to no good at this point. I remember that scene sticking with me.

Chris: Grettel thing.

Jordan: Yes. Which made me really want to go watch this movie.

Chris: But yeah, for some reason, this gets her real excited. Don't really know why, but she's like, after this, she's like, yeah, I'll do the interview. So she goes to do the interview. But pretty much at the beginning of the interview, she tries to ask her kind of what happened with her and her mom. And this causes her to have this mental breakdown. And she freaks out. And they have to kind of give up on the interview.

Jordan: What's up with this really weird shot of her smoking right before that.

Chris: Kind of sexual?

Jordan: Yeah. Looks like she's smoking a cigarette. Like she's about to get some pipe laid.

Chris: I thought Pop had the camera. Yeah, maybe he was holding the camera, walking up to her.

Jordan: And I was like, I'm glad that.

Chris: Oh, this is fucking weird. And then when she starts talking to her and you realize it's Becca with the camera, I was like, what the fuck is this?

Jordan: Yeah, I'm glad that I'm not the only one that totally the sexual. Yeah, I just wanted to throw that in there because I wanted to know what you thought about that because it seemed very sexual to me, too. It's like this old lady is like smoking the cigarette. Like she's about to get some pipe laid or something. Or they just had sex or something and don't get it. It's just a really random scene that doesn't count for anything. It's very out of place, just a.

Chris: Strange but then we jump to kind of Tyler and Becca. They're interviewing each other outside for the documentary. And this is where we learn that they both have very opposing opinions on their fathers abandoning them. And Tyler's view is more optimistic and Becca's is definitely more negative. Tyler tells the story about how he was playing football as a child, and he kind of just froze up. He freezes up when he gets afraid. And his dad was kind of the only one that didn't never really judged him about this incident where he kind of froze up. And this story kind of comes into play later on. It's not really understood why he's telling this story. At the know, Becca kind of talks about how it negatively affects her, and you see it really fucks up her self esteem.

Jordan: Yeah, and he ends up saying some really fucked up stuff, too. I didn't really get that either, why he breaks his sister down when it's his turn. But the scene before this is another really creepy scene. I'm bringing it up because this is the one I referenced that had that Paranormal Activity feel. So it's when they hide the camera downstairs so they can see what she's doing at night.

Chris: Oh, I didn't think we'd gotten there yet.

Jordan: Yes, it's right before the scene where they interview each other. So I assume you're about to hit that. But I'll just comment on it's. A super creepy scene. But the initial where she's walking and she starts slamming the door, it is very Paranormal Activity.

Chris: I see it. It's coming up.

Jordan: Literally feels like it is a shot straight out of Paranormal Activity. Definitely a strong found footage feel on that one. And a super creepy scene. Yeah.

Chris: So the next morning, Becca interviews Pop Pot for the documentary. And this is where he starts to tell her about how he had a really good job at a factory, but he was eventually fired because he kept seeing a white figure with yellow eyes that followed him around. He would tell others about it, but no one else could see it. And he has seen it recently at the farm. And he tells Becca that soon she will be able to see it.

Jordan: And that's not a good sign.

Chris: Definitely. This is some not good, like, schizophrenia shit. That's what I would be thinking. I'm like, this fucking dude is going to kill us all in our sleep. That's what I would think.

Jordan: Yeah.

Chris: This is not good.

Jordan: This is the point where you should have been like, all right, we need to get out of here.

Chris: Yeah.

Jordan: There's some serious shit obviously going on with Nana, like turning fucking crazy at night. And then you got somebody who basically tells you, like, he's seeing dead people. And you're going to be to see it soon too.

Chris: Well, by this age, when I was her age, I had already read The Amityville Horror where the original guy had murdered his whole family because of the pig with the red eyes told to do it or what. And then, yeah, as soon as I.

Jordan: Would have heard that at her age.

Chris: I'd have been like, nope, getting the fuck out of like, I already know what's going to happen. But yeah. So Tyler wants to set up a camera in the living room to record throughout the night. But Becca believes that this is unethical. And she thinks that her grandparents are just experiencing signs of early onset schizophrenia. We also get a short scene of a character named Stacey coming over to thank Nana and Pop Pop for their help at she's in, like, a rehab hospital, and they volunteer there. And they kind of helped her out. And she just stops by to kind of talk to them about big news at the hospital, something that had happened. And she's got blueberry cobbler. But Becca informs her that they just went on another walk. Good timing. And Stacey says she'll come back another time. Nana informs the kids that she accidentally spilt some batter on Becca's laptop camera. And she tried to clean it with some cooking spray, which makes no sense.

Jordan: Which is essentially oven cleaner.

Chris: It was an oven know, something like that.

Jordan: Slick move.

Chris: Pretty much.

Jordan: Yeah.

Chris: Just some kind of like, greasy type stuff. But it ends up leaving the kids with audio but no video on their laptop. So whenever they Skype their mom, the mom can't see. And that makes sense later on, later on in the story. So I guess they could kind of call her on the computer. But they can't see. They can see her. She can't see them.

Jordan: Yeah. And at this point in the movie when it happens, you're like, that's kind of weird. But you don't realize the first time watching it that it's deliberate. It really ends up being very slick. You find out later on why.

Chris: Well, so when I was rewatching it when I was originally writing the notes, I didn't catch this the first time. But on the very second day, the morning of the second day, they're there. Like, they get there the first day, and then they go to sleep that night. That's the night she throws up. And then the very next morning, the first morning they're there. There's a scene where Becca comes downstairs and Tyler's sitting there talking to Nana with the laptop in front of him. And this is where he's explaining to her where the camera is on the laptop. And this is where he's telling her about his stupid ass YouTube channel. And he's like, Tyler the creator. She them being old people had no fucking idea that this laptop had a camera on it until his dumb ass told her that. And that the very next day is when she the next morning is when she was like, oh, we got to fuck that camera up or we're eventually going to get caught. Yeah. And I didn't catch that.

Jordan: I didn't catch that.

Chris: I didn't catch that until I rewatched it.

Jordan: That's interesting.

Chris: I wrote these notes. Yeah, totally. Just that scene just flew right over me the first couple of times I watched this movie.

Jordan: Yeah, that makes sense. Because they probably didn't even know laptops had cameras.

Chris: No, you can tell by the look on her face that she's like, wait, what? This has a camera?

Jordan: Yeah. I didn't catch that. That is interesting.

Chris: But yeah. So that night at 1016, they start hearing noises. They're kind of on guard now, so they're like soon as they hear noises, they look at the clock. They got the camera ready. So it's 1016, they start hearing noises outside their door and they decide to investigate it. And I just want to point out that Teen Diamond Stylist wears PJ sets to that.

Jordan: And all the ladies love it. All the ladies love according to them.

Chris: They like, them pajama sets. Gets you sexier than a Pajama set from Target.

Jordan: Have to bust out the old Power Rangers Pajama set. That blood, apparently.

Chris: So Becca opens the door and sees Nana running past with both arms behind her back, rushing past them in both directions. And then suddenly quickly crawling towards them. And then they kind of slam the door shut real quick and lock it. I would have had the same reaction. Like, I would have said, what the fuck? But that's just me. That would have freaked me out. That would have 100% freaked me out.

Jordan: Yeah. This is another one of those fantastic, really creepy scenes that are spread throughout the first part of the movie where the movie is not really scary, doing a lot of character building and setting up the story. But these couple of scenes that they throw in there is really creepy.

Chris: Every creepy ass fucking thing that she does after 930 is scary. It is everything she does. If I was in their boat, I would be dreading 930 all day. Because it's like, what creepy shit is going to happen tonight?

Jordan: Yeah, this stuff wakes them up. I wouldn't be going to sleep because this seems like everything right around 1015, between 1015 and 1045, everything always starts going down the couple of times they show the clock. There ain't no way in hell I'm falling asleep after a couple of times of this happening. And I'll reference this later on, but the lady who plays Nana is the best person in this movie. She is the best actress in this movie. In my opinion. Yeah, she's great. Fantastic. She does this part better than probably anybody else I could think of.

Chris: Yeah. M night Shyamalan Actually, this was his favorite actress. The favorite actor in this movie. He said that when he seen her audition tape b