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Democrats need to do something

Democrats need to do something

The Gray Area with Sean Illing · Vox

March 24, 202550m 45s

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Show Notes

American government has a speed issue. Both parties are slow to solve problems. Slow to build new things. Slow to make any change at all.


Until now. The Trump administration is pushing through sweeping changes as fast as possible, completely changing the dynamic. And the Democrats? They’ve been slow to respond. Slow to mount a defense. Slow to change tactics. Still.


Ezra Klein — writer, co-founder of Vox, and host of The Ezra Klein Show for the New York Times — would like to offer a course correction.


In a new book, Abundance, Klein and co-author Derek Thompson, argue that the way to make a better, brighter future, is to build and invent the things we need. To do that, liberals need to push past hyper-coalitional and bureaucratic ways of getting things done.


In this episode, Ezra speaks with Sean about the policy decisions that have rendered government inert and how we can make it easier to build the things we want and need.


Host: Sean Illing (@SeanIlling)

Guest: Ezra Klein, co-author of Abundance and host of The Ezra Klein Show

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