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Aminatou Sow is the New York Times–bestselling author of Big Friendship, which she co-wrote with her best friend Ann Friedman. In today's conversation with Cleo Wade, Sow reflects on how going to therapy with Friedman helped them emerge as different but deeper friends. Sow also talks through friendship endings, and she shares her advice for creating new friendships and celebrating our bonds together. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Katrina Lake is the founder, interim CEO, and executive chairperson of Stitch Fix, an online personal shopping service where human stylists and algorithms curate clothing for you. Today, Lake joins GP to talk about how she pushed through moments of doubt to become the youngest woman to take a company public. They talk about rejection, mentors, navigating different leadership styles, and how to approach difficult conversations at work. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nedra Glover Tawwab, the New York Times-bestselling author of Set Boundaries, Find Peace and Drama Free, joins Cleo Wade to share her wisdom and practical advice on navigating families, friendship, work, and therapy. They talk about what is at the root of jealousy, how to normalize anger, and strategies for creating healthy boundaries with teenagers. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In Bruce Feiler's latest book, The Search: Finding Meaningful Work in a Post-Career World, he explores how people navigate through "workquakes," or work transitions, drawing from hundreds of real life stories from people across the country. He joins GP to talk about why we've been inculcated with the idea that there is a linear path to success and why it's time to rethink what it means to have a career. He shares his insights on how people can move through periods of change with purpose and clarity, and the questions to ask to find the work we want. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Rachel Cargle is an activist and the author of A Renaissance of Our Own: A Memoir and Manifesto on Reimagining. Today, she joins Cleo Wade to talk about the personal transformation that changed the course of her life. They explore the power of rest, ways to deepen our relationship to our body, and the beauty that comes with imagining what's possible for us—and the world. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The iconic mother-daughter duo share the journey that led them from an unexpected health crisis to writing a book together: Honey, Baby, Mine. They chat with cohost Cleo Wade about why we tend to wear masks with the people closest to us, and how they gathered the courage to have honest conversations with each other. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Peter Attia received his medical degree from Stanford University School of Medicine, trained for five years at Johns Hopkins Hospital in general surgery, and spent two years with NIH as a surgical oncology fellow at the National Cancer Institute. He is the founder of Early Medical, a medical practice focused on lifespan and healthspan, the host of The Drive podcast, and author of the #1 New York Times–bestseller Outlive. Today, Attia explains how to mitigate cognitive decline, the technologies he’s most excited about, and ways to optimize your sleep and exercise routines. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cleo Wade catches up with actor, producer, and director Sanaa Lathan. They chat about having gut instincts in friendships, how a spiritual guide changed the trajectory of Lathan’s career, why she resists being called a role model, and the force of gratitude in their lives. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The love that can be between two people is actually a powerful life force that can do tremendous things if you circle it back out again,” says poet and memoirist Elizabeth Alexander. Alexander is the president of the Mellon Foundation, which is the largest funder of arts, culture, and the humanities in America. She joins Cleo Wade to talk about keeping alive the work of the people who came before us, why creativity can be in service of our communities, and the difference between evolution and revolution. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP talks with the actor, producer, and now skin-care founder about what spurred her investigation into clean beauty, how she manages to stay off social media, and what she’s learned from marriage. And, yes, they reminisce about movie sets and their costars. For more, you can shop Johansson's skin-care line The Outset and learn how she gets her skin ready in under three minutes on goop. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“So much of life is staying open to our own bewilderment,” says Cheryl Strayed. This week, Cleo Wade sits down with the Wild author to talk about the origins of her beloved advice column, Dear Sugar, and what she’s learned through writing about loss, connection, and self-forgiveness. (Tiny Beautiful Things, the show based on Strayed’s book, is out now on Hulu.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

"That's the beauty of art," says Sade Lythcott. "It holds a mirror up to both your beauty and your pain, and it grabs you by the heart and hand and says, 'We can turn this into something beautiful.'" Lythcott is the CEO of the National Black Theater in New York. Today, she joins our new cohost Cleo Wade to talk about the power of storytelling, how grief can push us to harness our courage, and why honesty is a profound tool for self-care. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cleo Wade—poet, author, and new cohost of The goop Podcast—joins GP to talk about the threads that inspire her and keep her curious and creative. They talk about bringing awareness to blind spots, when anger is informative and when the emotion is hiding from you, and a liberating thing Wade says she has learned to do for herself. “Allow people to have their side of the story,” says Wade. Plus, GP asks Wade who she’s looking forward to having on the podcast and the conversations she most wants to explore. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In his new book, Gut Feelings: Healing the Shame-Fueled Relationship Between What You Eat and How You Feel, functional medicine practitioner Will Cole, IFMCP, DNM, DC, uses research and lessons gathered from his patients to illuminate the gut-brain connection and the relationship between our physical and emotional well-being. He joins GP today to talk about ways to nurture the nervous system, why eating gut-calming foods can help with mental health, and the process Cole takes his patients through to help them reconnect with their body and trust their gut instinct again. (For more, sign up for a live virtual conversation with GP and Cole—your ticket from Penguin Bookshop includes a copy of the book.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP and Kerry Washington sat down in front of a live audience to talk about the impetus behind Washington’s new Hulu series, UnPrisoned. They chatted about searching for our blind spots, father-daughter dynamics, their high school days, and the moment Washington realized she needed to become the protagonist of her own journey. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In Katherine May’s newest book, Enchantment: Awakening Wonder in an Anxious Age, she explores our deep disconnection from the world around us and how rediscovering wonder and awe can help us feel whole again. Today, May joins GP to talk about what happens when we find the humility to stay open and curious to the world around us. May shares how she’s learned to embrace the practice of fluidity, and she shares steps we can take to reconcile what isn’t in our control. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

This week's episode is guest hosted by Ambi Kavanagh, a sound healer, astrologer, life coach, and founder of Alchemy with Ambi. She joins us today to guide us through an immersive sound bath using her signature planetary gongs that are tuned to the frequencies of each planet. In this energetic meditation, Kavanagh invites us to slow down and clear our minds as we move through the next few weeks of the season. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“I thought I had already failed at motherhood, and I did not even have a child yet,” says Jessica Grose, New York Times opinion writer and author of Screaming on the Inside: The Unsustainability of American Motherhood. Today, the parenting columnist joins Erica Chidi to share what she’s learned over the course of her career, examining the social, political, and economic issues intertwined with modern parenting. They talk about friendship, mom-influencers, and Grose’s vision for reimagining the way we support caregivers in this country. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Whitney Wolfe Herd is the founder and CEO of Bumble, a female-focused dating app she launched in 2014 after leaving another popular dating app called Tinder (which she also founded). Today, she joins GP to talk about how her own experiences informed the way she designed Bumble, how she tends to her marriage and motherhood, the reason she believes people act the way they do online, and her vision for a different online future. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Sophia Roe—James Beard award-winning chef and Emmy-nominated host of the food news show Counter Space—shares her personal journey into the culinary industry. Plus: her take on the future of food, the ingredient she predicts is going to take over, and where she loves to eat in New York City right now. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Danielle Prescod is the author of Token Black Girl, her memoir about her experiences as a Black woman in the beauty and fashion industry. She joins Erica Chidi to discuss how pop culture and media influenced her early self-identity, why she chose to write her story, and what changes Prescod hopes to see in the industry today. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Maya Feller is a registered dietitian and author of the new goop press cookbook, Eating from Our Roots: 80+ Healthy Home-Cooked Favorites from Cultures Around the World. In this episode, Fellers shares her non-prescriptive approach to food and nutrition, baseline recommendations for cooking for chronic conditions, thoughts on intermittent fasting, and different ways to bring more joy and flavor into the kitchen. And, Feller and GP discuss the big questions and challenges surrounding healthy eating, privilege, and access. (For more from Feller and GP, tune into their conversation this Thursday, January 26—they'll be answering your questions in real time.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Myisha Battle, certified sex and dating coach and the author of This is Supposed to Be Fun, explains her inclusive and values-based approach to sex and dating. She shares her advice for cultivating authenticity, managing first-date burnout, and expressing and receiving your desires. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Katy Perry visited GP at goop HQ, where they sat down with De Soi (Perry’s line of sparking non-alcoholic aperitifs) and spent some time catching up. They talked about spirituality, Perry’s path to wholeness, and how she came to define her purpose and center it around joy. They shared some of the lessons they’ve learned through therapy, what intimacy looks like in a true partnership—and GP gives Perry the piece of advice that she had yearned for at Perry’s age. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In this special episode, psychological astrologer Jennifer Freed and intuition coach Mory Fontanez guide us through the astrological themes to expect in the new year. They share their advice for fostering meaningful relationships, a tool for repairing mistakes, and how to tap into your intuitive powers and connect with your inner wisdom. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Kim Kardashian visited GP at goop HQ, where they sat down and talked about Kardashian’s inner life and how her adolescent years shaped the person she is today. GP asks her about how she manages social media with her children, what mornings and evenings in her household really look like, and if she sees herself getting married again. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Roya Rastegar is an Iranian American academic and a founding member of the Iranian Diaspora Collective, which is a nonpartisan multifaith group amplifying the voices of Iranians in Iran. She joins GP to discuss the ongoing uprising being led by young Iranian women, why it’s not only about women’s rights but human rights everywhere, and actionable ways to support this critical movement. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Melody Beattie is the bestselling author of Codependent No More (which she originally published in 1986 and updated in 2022). "I believe codependents are anyone who consistently love other people more—or to the detriment of loving themselves," says Beattie. "It's hard for codependents to consider their own needs as being valid, especially in the face of other people's needs." Beattie joins Erica Chidi today to explore the roots of codependency, how she first came to understand this term while working as an addiction counselor, and ways to manage codependent triggers. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Joe Duran, head of Goldman Sachs Personal Financial Management, on his early life and how he reframed his thinking around happiness, success, and financial well-being. He talks about navigating setbacks, what to make of this current financial climate, and how to identify your money mind—a framework he and his team developed to help people articulate what matters to them. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Cassie Holmes is a professor at UCLA’s Anderson School of Management and author of Happier Hour: How to Beat Distraction, Expand Your Time, and Focus on What Matters Most. In this episode, she explains why having more free time doesn’t necessarily make our lives more meaningful, and she shares strategies for reframing the hours that we do have so that they are more enjoyable, fulfilling, and productive. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chelsey Luger, coauthor of The Seven Circles: Indigenous Teachings for Living Well, on ancient Indigenous practices for well-being, more thoughtful ways to navigate cultural appropriation, and what we can all learn from our own ancestors. (Luger cowrote the book with her husband Thosh Collins and together they also started the Indigenous wellness initiative Well for Culture.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Non-attachment says I can go for this thing, I can work as hard as I want to on it, but I’m also willing not to have it,” says legendary psychiatrist Phil Stutz. Stutz is known for his visualization exercises (called the tools) which he uses to help people overcome blocks to create lasting change. He joins GP to talk about why the tools work and how to tap into the invisible forces that collectively and individually move us forward. (After listening to this episode, be sure to watch Stutz, a new Netflix documentary directed by Jonah Hill about Stutz’s work.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Liz O’Donnell is an author and the founder of Working Daughter, a community for women navigating eldercare, career, family, relationships, and everything else in life. She joins cohost Erica Chidi to talk about being part of the sandwich generation that is caring for aging parents and growing children at the same time. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP catches up with her friend, actress Lake Bell. They talk about Bell’s fascination with the human voice and what she learned while researching her new audiobook, Inside Voice: My Obsession with How We Sound. In today’s conversation, GP and Bell unpack why we’re drawn to certain voices, the role that voice can play in gender and identity, the phenomenon known as the “sexy baby voice,” and why we hate listening to the sound of our own. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Liz Goldwyn is a filmmaker, the founder of The Sex Ed (an online community and podcast dedicated to sexual well-being), and an author (her latest book is Sex, Health & Consciousness). Goldwyn joins Erica Chidi to talk about how she reframed her thinking around sex and desire. They talk about intentional celibacy as a tool for self-discovery, mutual masturbation, how to increase your porn literacy, and what we can learn from the fetish community. And at the end of the episode, Goldwyn shares a meditation for connecting mind, body, and sexuality. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We all have the opportunity to unlock our personal traits that we may have discounted,” says Julia Boorstin, CNBC’s senior media and tech correspondent and author of When Women Lead. For her book, Boorstin interviewed many women leaders, GP among them. In her reporting, Boorstin found that successful female leaders shared a few common threads that helped them push through male-dominated industries. She shares these threads—and how we can all incorporate them into our daily lives to make them more meaningful. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Shilpa Ravella is a transplant gastroenterologist and the author of A Silent Fire: The Story of Inflammation, Diet, and Disease, which explores the role of chronic inflammation in today’s diseases. She joins Erica Chidi to talk about how the modern diet and our current environment, including stress and trauma, could be impacting us. And Ravella shares the dietary and lifestyle practices that could be beneficial for both human and planetary health. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

In today’s episode, GP is joined by psychological astrologer Jennifer Freed, PhD. Freed is the author of the new book A Map to Your Soul. In it, she explores how using the astrology of fire, earth, air, and water can help us live in alignment with our authentic selves—which Freed calls living a fully expressed life. GP and Freed talk about why we generally fear speaking our truth, the journey into self-acceptance, big friendship, romantic chemistry, and how to negotiate the different parts of ourselves. Last, Freed shares a preview for what’s coming in 2023. For more, join GP and Freed for a virtual event on October 11. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

GP sat down with her husband, Brad Falchuk, to talk about turning 50. Falchuk shares his perspective on navigating milestones and changes as we age. They reflect on what their parents were like when they were 50 and how their own children have recontextualized their lives. They discuss stepparenting, reinventing second marriages, grief, and what they’re both looking forward to in their next chapter together. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Julie and John Gottman are renowned marriage experts and the cofounders of the Gottman Institute, where they provide couples with the tools to help them get their partnerships back on track. In their new book, The Love Prescription, the Gottmans share their research-based approach for strengthening relationships. They join Erica Chidi to talk about the small yet effective shifts that can help increase intimacy and connection over seven days. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Healing is becoming whole,” says Gabor Maté, MD. “You can cure something without that person becoming whole. Sometimes people become whole without being cured.” The acclaimed author is back with a new book, The Myth of Normal, which explores the links between illness, chronic stress, and our cultural and physical environments. He joins Erica Chidi to recontextualize the path toward health and healing. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“Parents don’t repair with their kids because they’re in such a shame spiral,” says clinical psychologist Becky Kennedy. “But until you can find your own goodness under your latest bad behavior, you cannot go to your child from a place of generosity and connection.” Kennedy is a sought-after parenting coach, the founder of the global parenting community Good Inside, and author of Good Inside: A Guide to Becoming the Parent You Want to Be. She joins GP to talk about conscious parenting, what’s at the root of projection, and how we can break free from self-doubt and work toward connection and empathy. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The majority of learning I really believe happens outside of the classroom,” says Kat Cohen. “And you have to be surrounded by people who are different from you to expand your mind.” Cohen is an independent university admissions counselor and the founder of Ivywise, an educational consulting company that is helping to demystify the college admissions experience. She joins GP today to talk about the current landscape and her holistic approach to counseling students and families as they prepare for college and beyond. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Nedra Glover Tawwab is a licensed therapist and the New York Times-bestselling author of Set Boundaries, Find Peace: A Guide to Reclaiming Yourself. She joins Erica Chidi to discuss the importance of maintaining boundaries, how to get comfortable advocating for yourself, and strategies for setting boundaries with our families. “The boundary is the space for you to stand up for yourself, assert your needs, and speak your values to the other people in your life,” says Tawwab. (In case you missed it: GP shared her latest skin care secret at the end of the episode. Head here to take 15 percent off our new Sleep Milk—and more goop beauty products—using code SLEEPMILK15. Valid August 9 through September 9, 2022. Full terms and conditions available here.) To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Integrative dietician and menopause expert Esther Blum joins GP today to talk about her approach for treating women during menopause. Blum shares her nutrition-based perspective on perimenopause and menopause, and her advice on treatment options, lifestyle recommendations, and ways to advocate for yourself through the process. After you listen, preorder Blum’s new book, See Ya Later, Ovulator, which comes out on October 4. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Chantel Prat is a brain researcher, a professor at the University of Washington, and the author of The Neuroscience of You: How Every Brain is Different and How to Understand Yours. She joins Erica Chidi to talk about how to better understand our individual brain strengths and why embracing our different brains can help open us up to more connection and understanding. Prat also breaks down what’s true and not true about left- and right-brained thinking, the best way to care for our brains as we age, and the benefits of bilingualism. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“All societies have drugs that they’re okay with and they draw these lines and they draw them in ways that can seem very arbitrary,” says Michael Pollan, New York Times–bestselling author of This Is Your Mind on Your Plants and host of the new Netflix series, How to Change Your Mind. GP interviewed Pollan about the relationship between humans and plants and how he initially became interested in psychoactive plants as an avid gardener. They talk about the value of caffeine, what surprised Pollan while studying opium, what was unearthed for him during a powerful psilocybin experience, and why he believes MDMA is useful for couple's therapy. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“No one ever asked me if I was happy,” says Selma Blair. “And it’s such a big question.” The actress and author of the new memoir Mean Baby joins GP to talk about the journey that led to Blair’s multiple sclerosis diagnosis and how she’s come to embrace change at fifty. Blair explains how she found healing through books and writing, how she’s learned to be kinder to her younger self, and the forces that have shaped her as a mother. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“We don’t talk about this stage of life as being an exquisitely vulnerable time,” says psychotherapist Satya Doyle Byock, author of Quarterlife: The Search for Self in Early Adulthood. She joins Erica Chidi to talk about why society tends to overlook people in their early twenties and thirties and how to better support the transition into adulthood. They discuss historical examples of the quarterlife experience, and Byock shares her roadmap for navigating this period. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

“The reason that I get so excited about future thinking and helping people play with future scenarios is that those are the habits that keep our mind unstuck,” says future forecaster, game designer, and author Jane McGonigal. In her book, Imaginable: How to See the Future Coming and Feel Ready for Anything, McGonigal shares tools—and games—for envisioning the future before it arrives. She and GP talk about the signals that shape change (and how to spot them yourself) and why video games have the potential to help us heal. Toward the end, McGonigal shares what gives her hope for the future and her predictions on what we should be paying attention to in the next ten years. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices