The Extramilest Podcast

Thanks to LMNT for sponsoring this video. Get a free sample pack with any purchase at https://drinklmnt.com/flo Kerry Ward and I discuss what really holds runners back and how to push through it. Kerry shares powerful stories from his races, lessons on saying yes to new challenges, and why the hard moments are actually the ones that matter most. For those who've ever struggled to stay consistent, felt like quitting mid-run, or wondered how to become mentally stronger. Watch this full video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/wqv8pOcmtCc Chapters: 0:00 — The mindset that gets you through any run 0:59 — LMNT sponsorship 1:58 — Personal Best Program 2:10 — Running Breakthroughs book 2:27 — Meet Kerry and what holds recreational runners back 6:32 — How to handle low points in a race day 13:24 — The science of not giving up (rat study) 19:26 — Kerry's YouTube journey 22:40 — Check PB Program 23:29 — Embracing the low points and why it matters 31:14 — Being gentler with yourself in training 36:28 — Awareness, presence, & staying connected in the moment 37:53 — How to practice gratitude on the run 41:07 — Why does cold exposure build mental toughness? 45:01 — The power of running with others 48:13 — Advice for runners who feel too old or too slow 55:56 — Saying yes to new challenges & Kerry's first Ironman 1:02:52 — How to say yes more often 1:06:00 — Kerry's advice to his younger self 1:12:19 — Growth through experience and discomfort 1:16:52 — How runners can use visualization for training and racing 1:20:30 — Saying yes before you feel ready 1:26:03 — How to Become a Stronger, Happier and Healthier Athlete 1:29:18 — How to find your running tribe FIND KERRY WARD: ► Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@FullTiltWard ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kerryward LINKS & TOOLS MENTIONED ► Personal Best Running Club, Free 7 day Trial: https://www.skool.com/personalbest ► My new book Running Breakthroughs, also as Audio book: https://geni.us/runningbreakthroughs ► Wes Plate Cocodona 250 2021: https://youtu.be/p8we_9JpKg0 ► Kerry Ward Cocodona 250 2021: https://youtu.be/h_Lkp5zhcO4 ► Path Projects: https://pathprojects.com ► Extramilest Episode with Courtney Dauwalter: https://youtu.be/OTgwIEAN3B4 YOU CAN FIND ME, FLORIS GIERMAN HERE: ► Free 7 Day Trial For Our New Personal Best Running Club: https://www.pbprogram.com ► Buy my new book Running Breakthroughs: https://geni.us/runningbreakthroughs ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/florisgierman/ ► Extramilest Website: https://extramilest.com ► Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/1329785 ► Path Projects Website: https://pathprojects.com Affiliate Disclosure: I may earn commissions if you purchase items via my affiliate links. "As an affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases." Affiliate links do not increase cost to you. Also, you do not need to use these links. You can also search for these same items in Amazon or on any search engine/shopping site of your choice and buy/research them that way. ABOUT THE EXTRAMILEST SHOW: A podcast and YouTube channel where host Floris Gierman interviews world class athletes, coaches and health experts on the topic of how to become a stronger, healthier and happier athlete. More info about our new running coaching program can be found at https://www.pbprogram.com Subscribe and hit the bell to see new videos: https://bit.ly/Flo-YT

Thanks to Bear Mattress for sponsoring this video. Get 40% off your Bear mattress at https://www.bearmattress.com/floris using code Floris. Another incredible episode with Coach Scott Johnston. He is back for Round 2 after our first episode reached over 140,000 YouTube views in just a few weeks. We dive deeper into Zone 2 training, common mistakes runners make, VO₂ max myths, recovery, and how to balance intensity and volume for long-term progress without burning out. Watch this full video on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDg4NAEKQO8 Chapters: 0:00 – The truth about zone 2 training 1:00 – Training for the Uphill Athlete 1:20 – BEAR mattress sponsorship 2:40 – What people get wrong about zone 2 training 10:10 – MAF training explained (180 – age) 14:11 – What people get wrong about high-intensity training 23:18 – Introducing our new Personal Best Running Club 24:07 – Recovery times by training zone 28:27 – How Jakob Ingebrigtsen runs double threshold sessions 34:50 – Balancing volume, intensity, and priorities 37:14 – Overtraining signs and recovery debt 47:45 – Motivation, body signals, and when to stop 51:40 – How to do run-walk training in zone 2 55:40 – How to measure progress in run-walk training 57:12 – Sample run-walk training week 59:22 – Guidelines for beginners starting easy training 1:02:04 – How to do cross-training during injury 1:05:12 – Lever treadmill tool (injury recovery) 1:07:23 – Returning after injury or time off 1:13:20 – Training in heat and adjusting effort 1:18:58 – Does aerobic threshold improve over time? 1:20:58 – Breathing vs heart rate for intensity 1:24:00 – Training at altitude (heart rate adjustments) 1:25:35 – Where to find Scott, his books, & programs 1:27:03 – Final advice for recreational runners to improve without burnout FIND SCOTT JOHNSTON ► Website: https://evokeendurance.com/ ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coach_scott_johnston/ ► Evoke Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/evokeendurance/ ► Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/evokeendurance/ ► Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evokecast/id1652132598 ► Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5hEgBO6OHjnya5S6CWL024 ► Training for the New Alpinism Book: https://a.co/d/056KjXT1 ► Training for the Uphill Athlete Book: https://a.co/d/00NXdpdR YOU CAN FIND ME, FLORIS GIERMAN HERE: ► Our New Personal Best Running Coaching Program: https://www.pbprogram.com/ ► Buy my new book Running Breakthroughs: https://geni.us/runningbreakthroughs ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/florisgierman/ ► Extramilest Website: https://extramilest.com ► Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/1329785 ► Path Projects Website: https://pathprojects.com Affiliate Disclosure: I may earn commissions if you purchase items via my affiliate links. "As an affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases." Affiliate links do not increase cost to you. Also, you do not need to use these links. You can also search for these same items in Amazon or on any search engine/shopping site of your choice and buy/research them that way. ABOUT THE EXTRAMILEST SHOW: A podcast and YouTube channel where host Floris Gierman interviews world class athletes, coaches and health experts on the topic of how to become a stronger, healthier and happier athlete. More info about our running coaching program can be found at https://www.pbprogram.com Subscribe and hit the bell to see new videos: https://bit.ly/Flo-YT

Thanks to LMNT for sponsoring this video. Get a free sample pack with any purchase at https://DrinkLMNT.com/FLO This is one of my favorite podcast episodes I've ever recorded. Scott Johnston is an established coach and co-author of the book Training for the Uphill Athlete. We dive into aerobic development, thresholds, Zone 2 training, and how to become a stronger, healthier and happier athlete. Watch this full video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/vAqQPDXtq5k Chapters: 0:00 – The aerobic foundation every endurance athlete needs 1:30 – LMNT sponsorship 2:40 – Introducing Scott & Training for the Uphill Athlete 6:38 – Why aerobic capacity matters most 11:49 – How long it takes to build an aerobic engine 14:31 – Aerobic vs anaerobic thresholds 18:38 – Aerobically developed vs deficient athletes 25:08 – Scott's high-level advice for aerobic development 29:47 – How to test aerobic and anaerobic thresholds 36:33 – The second threshold test: duration and intensity 38:50 – Training stress, recovery, and stagnation 43:00 – Injury risk and ramping volume too fast 44:48 – Advice Scott would give his younger self 54:02 – Fast vs slow twitch athletes 59:30 – Threshold workouts and training smarter 1:06:16 – When double threshold workouts make sense 1:07:24 – Where to find Scott 1:09:46 – How to be a healthier, stronger, happier athlete FIND SCOTT JOHNSTON ► Website: https://evokeendurance.com/ ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/coach_scott_johnston/ ► Evoke Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/evokeendurance/ ► Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/evokeendurance/ ► Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/evokecast/id1652132598 ► Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5hEgBO6OHjnya5S6CWL024 LINKS & TOOLS MENTIONED ► Training for the New Alpinism Book: https://a.co/d/056KjXT1 ► Training for the Uphill Athlete Book: https://a.co/d/00NXdpdR ► Jeff Pelletier Badwater Movie: https://youtu.be/S774m29AYr4 ► My new book Running Breakthroughs: https://florisgierman.com/ ► More options to buy the book worldwide on Amazon: https://geni.us/running-breakthroughs ► Path Projects: https://pathprojects.com/ ► Extramilest Episode with Mark Allen: https://youtu.be/YlBUJTIggyA YOU CAN FIND ME, FLORIS GIERMAN HERE: ► My Personal Best Running Coaching Program: https://www.pbprogram.com/ ► Podcast: https://extramilest.com/podcast/ ► Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/1329785 ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/florisgierman/ ► Buy my new book Running Breakthroughs: https://florisgierman.com/ ► Extramilest Website: https://extramilest.com ► Path Projects Website: https://pathprojects.com Affiliate Disclosure: I may earn commissions if you purchase items via my affiliate links. "As an affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases." Affiliate links do not increase cost to you. Also, you do not need to use these links. You can also search for these same items in Amazon or on any search engine/shopping site of your choice and buy/research them that way. ABOUT THE EXTRAMILEST SHOW: A podcast and YouTube channel where host Floris Gierman interviews world class athletes, coaches and health experts on the topic of how to become a stronger, healthier and happier athlete. More info about our running coaching program can be found at https://www.pbprogram.com Subscribe and hit the bell to see new videos: https://bit.ly/Flo-YT

Thanks to LMNT for sponsoring this video. Get a free sample pack with any purchase at https://DrinkLMNT.com/FLO This episode focuses on simple, practical tools to reduce stress in daily life, stay calm, and run with more presence. We talk breathing, awareness, mindset, and race-day nerves, and how relaxing on purpose can actually improve performance and enjoyment. Dr. Kasim, a member of our Personal Best Running Coaching Program, shares what's worked for him in training and daily life. Watch this full video on YouTube: https://youtu.be/MsJ_vyx-CLc Chapters: 0:00 — Training the mind: Stress management for athletes 1:15 — LMNT Sponsorship 2:22 — How you can reduce stress in everyday life 5:50 — Simple stress-reduction habits 11:03 — Awareness vs. living on autopilot 14:40 — Running with awareness and listening to your body 21:53 — How to start a meditation practice 28:00 — Is there a "best" time of day to meditate? 31:36 — How mindset affects training and progress 35:04 — Key lessons and advice for runners looking to improve 42:22 — Stress, cortisol, and why sleep gets disrupted 44:41 — Practical breathing tools to calm the nervous system 54:58 — Gaining perspective and appreciation for life 1:00:46 — What long-form meditation teaches athletes 1:07:24 — Managing race-day nerves 1:11:18 — Simple mental resets to stay calm and positive 1:18:55 — Where to find Dr. Kasim 1:19:44 — How to become a happier, healthier, stronger athlete FIND DR. KASIM AL-MASHAT: ► Website: https://centreformindfulness.ca/ ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr.kasimalmashat ► Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@dr.kasimal-mashat5191 ► Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/15yQZXEHCp18aTjgTn834x LINKS & TOOLS MENTIONED ► My new book Running Breakthroughs as Audio book, Printed Book and eBook: https://florisgierman.com/ ► More options to buy the book worldwide on Amazon: https://geni.us/running-breakthroughs ► Path Projects: https://pathprojects.com/ ► Dr. Phil Maffetone episode: https://youtu.be/DyE2J5pcWcA YOU CAN FIND ME, FLORIS GIERMAN HERE: ► My Personal Best Running Coaching Program: https://www.pbprogram.com/ ► YouTube - Subscribe to see new videos: http://bit.ly/Flo-YT ► Podcast: https://extramilest.com/podcast/ ► Strava: https://www.strava.com/athletes/1329785 ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/florisgierman/ ► Extramilest Website: https://extramilest.com ► Path Projects Website: https://pathprojects.com Affiliate Disclosure: I may earn commissions if you purchase items via my affiliate links. "As an affiliate I earn from qualifying purchases." Affiliate links do not increase cost to you. Also, you do not need to use these links. You can also search for these same items in Amazon or on any search engine/shopping site of your choice and buy/research them that way. ABOUT THE EXTRAMILEST SHOW: A podcast and YouTube channel where host Floris Gierman interviews world class athletes, coaches and health experts on the topic of how to become a stronger, healthier and happier athlete. More info about our Personal Best Running Coaching Program can be found at https://www.pbprogram.com. SUBSCRIBE and hit the bell to see new videos: https://bit.ly/Flo-YT