The Edtech Podcast

What's in this episode? Continuing our new 5-episode miniseries on AI in education with the second episode on AI's relationship to neuroscience and metacognition, host Professor Rose Luckin is joined by Dr Steve Fleming, Professor of Cognitive Neuroscience at UCL, UK, and Jessica Schultz, Academic & Curriculum Director at the San Roberto International School in Monterrey, Mexico. This episode and our series are generously sponsored by Nord Anglia Education. Metacognition, neuroscience and AI aren't just buzzwords but areas of intense research and innovation that will help learners in ways that until now have been unavailable to the vast majority of people. The technologies and approaches that study in these domains unlocks, however, must not be siloed or made inaccessible to public understanding. Real work must be done to bring these areas together and we are tremendously excited that this podcast will present a great opportunity to showcase what inroads have been made, where, why, and how. Guests: Dr Steve Fleming, Professor of Cognitive Neuroscience, UCL Jessica Schultz, Academic & Curriculum Director, San Roberto International School Talking points and questions include: Neuroscience and AI are well-respected fields with a massive amount of research underpinning their investigation and practices, but they are also two very shiny buzzwords that the public likely only understands in the abstract (and the words may even be misapplied to things that aren't based in neuroscience or AI). Can you tell our listeners what they are, how they intersect with one another, and what benefits their crossover can provide in the realms of skills and knowledge? Can we use one field, AI, or Neuroscience, to talk about the other, to better 'sell' the idea of the other field of study, and in this way, drastically raise the bar of what is possible to detect, uncover and assess, in education, using these domains? In practical terms, how do we use AI and neuroscience to measure what might be considered 'unmeasurable' in learning? What data is required, what expertise in the team, or in a partner organisation, can be leveraged, who can be responsible for doing this in an educational or training institution? What data or competencies or human resource do they need access to? Sponsorship Thank you so much to this series' sponsor: Nord Anglia Education, the world's leading premium international schools organisation. They make every moment of your child's education count. Their strong academic foundations combine world-class teaching and curricula with cutting-edge technology and facilities, to create learning experiences like no other. Inside and outside of the classroom, Nord Anglia Education inspires their students to achieve more than they ever thought possible. "Along with great academic results, a Nord Anglia education means having the confidence, resilience and creativity to succeed at whatever you choose to do or be in life." - Dr Elise Ecoff, Chief Education Officer, Nord Anglia Education

What's in this episode? Delighted to launch this new 5-episode miniseries on AI in education, sponsored by Nord Anglia Education, host Professor Rose Luckin kicks things off for the Edtech Podcast by examining how we keep education as the centre of gravity for AI. AI has exploded in the public consciousness with innovative large language models writing our correspondence and helping with our essays, and sophisticated images, music, impersonations and video generated on-demand from prompts. Whilst big companies proclaim what this technology can achieve and how it will affect work, life, play and learning, the consumer and user on the ground and in our schools likely has little idea how it works or why, and it seems like a lot of loud voices are telling us only half the story. What's the truth behind AI's power? How do we know it works, and what are we using to measure its successes or failures? What are our young people getting out of the interaction with this sophisticated, scaled technology, and who can we trust to inject some integrity into the discourse? We're thrilled to have three guests in the Zoom studio with Rose this week: Dr Paul LeBlanc, President, Southern New Hampshire University Dr Kate Erricker, Assistant Director of Curriculum, Nord Anglia Education Julie Henry, Freelance Education Correspondent Talking points and questions include: We often ask of technology in the classroom 'does it work'? But when it comes to AI, preparing people to work, live, and play with it will be more than just whether or not it does what the developers want it to. We need to start educating those same people HOW it works, because that will not only protect us as consumers out in the world, as owners of our own data, but help build a more responsible and 'intelligent' society that is learning all of the time, and better able to support those who need it most. So if we want that 'intelligence infrastructure', how do we build it? What examples of AI in education have we got so far, what areas have been penetrated and has anything radically changed for the better? Can assessment, grading, wellbeing, personalisation, tutoring, be improved with AI enhancements, and is there the structural will for this to happen in schools? The 'white noise' surrounding AI discourse: we know the conversation is being dominated by larger-than-life personalities and championed by global companies who have their own technologies and interests that they're trying to glamourise and market. What pushbacks, what reputable sources of information, layman's explanations, experts and opinions should we be listening to to get the real skinny on AI, especially for education? Sponsorship Thank you so much to this series' sponsor: Nord Anglia Education, the world's leading premium international schools organisation. They make every moment of your child's education count. Their strong academic foundations combine world-class teaching and curricula with cutting-edge technology and facilities, to create learning experiences like no other. Inside and outside of the classroom, Nord Anglia Education inspires their students to achieve more than they ever thought possible. "Along with great academic results, a Nord Anglia education means having the confidence, resilience and creativity to succeed at whatever you choose to do or be in life." - Dr Elise Ecoff, Chief Education Officer, Nord Anglia Education

Digital Transformation! Digital Strategy! Professional Education! What do they mean, and how do we implement them in a school? In today's episode we're very lucky to have on three wonderful guests who operate at the intersection of educational practice and the leveraging of technology for a better learning experience. They are: James Symons, CEO, LocknCharge Katie Novak, Education Strategist, Smart Technologies Associate Professor Jane Hunter, School of International Studies and Education, University of Technology, Sydney Each of these guests has a long history of working within the education space, from engineering and installing the hardware and catering to the evolving demands of schools, to leveraging the technology as a communal bridge between parents, teachers and students, and finally to researching and understanding the added value such technologies provide for teachers and learners and how they might successfully incorporate their use into daily practice. Talking points and questions include: The evolving demands of the classroom – what futureproofing and future planning exists in each of your spaces to accommodate new trends and developments? For those catering to the hardware, does the school or college determine what you make, or are they, and the ways their teachers and learners perform, conditioned by you? What space is there for reciprocity between the EdTech maker and the EdTech user? Teacher professional education – how important is this? Surely a learning tool lives and dies by the amount of training and 'after-sales support' is provided to practitioners? What is the extent of the refusal by a teacher or department to adopt the technology and how is this overcome? Is it just waving statistics about time-saving and cost-saving in their faces or is there a form of trust that must be engendered? Digital strategy – this means different things to different stakeholders. What are the commonalities that should be agreed upon for successful rollout of technology? Obviously contextual factors are key to each school, but what are the non-negotiables? And with regard to developments like generative AI and other future trends we can't even predict yet, what kinds of guardrails need to be in place with teachers, leaders, and the developers of the tech to ensure ongoing supportive relationships with stakeholders. What foundations should be in place to support digital transformation no matter the bumps in the road ahead? Material discussed in today's episode includes: LocknCharge classroom solutions to facilite mobile device workflow and management Improving Access & Outcomes Through Student & Teaching Voice: EdTech Assessment in the Cherry Hill Public Schools Australia and the Digital Education Revolution Jane Hunter: High Possibility STEM Classrooms and Technology Integration and High Possibility Classrooms Smart Technology: EdTech Assessment Tool Uruguay and Ceibal Project

SCIENCE! Under discussion today are the ways in which students who were switched off the sciences at school manage to retain their curiosity about the subjects and can even reengage with it later in life. Professor Rose Luckin is very lucky to have in the online studio this week Dr Andrew Morris, Honorary Associate Professor at UCL, former president of the Education Section of the British Science Association, and author, whose book, Bugs, Drugs, and Three-Pin Plugs: Everyday Science, Simply Explained, is now available wherever books are sold. Dr Morris has an interest in serving learners and the public through scientific and evidence-based outreach. The discussion in the studio centred around science, technology, research and practice in education. Talking points and questions: The ways in which people who were switched off the sciences at school retain their curiosity and can reengage with science at a later point in life Examples of topics and ways of approaching science that have been revealed by Dr Morris' science discussion groups Research-informed educational practice, and research-informed educational policy Ways in which research can be transformed and mediated for use Material discussed in today's episode includes: Smartphones in schools? Only when they clearly support learning, the 2023 Global Education Monitoring Report has just released a call for technology only to be used in class when it supports learning outcomes, and this includes the use of smartphones. The Skinny on AI for Education, EVR's newest publication featuring insights, trends and developments in the world of AI Ed

Rose hosts Daisy Christodoulou, Director of Education at No More Marking in the EdTech Podcast Zoom studio this week, discussing AI regulation, evidence and effectiveness, and student outcomes in AI assessment, and what we think the future of AI-powered education might look like, and why! In late March of this year, Professor Rose Luckin and Daisy Christodoulou spoke at the UK parliament's Governance of Artificial Intelligence oral evidence session for education, and the discussion that took place was passionate and exciting. A link to the video of the session is below in the Show Notes if you'd like to watch it yourself, but a lot of ground was covered, yet not as much as they wished! The interest in AI and its governance is very intense at the moment. The UK government had published a white paper setting out their proposed approach to the governance of AI and the indication from the paper was that rather than give responsibility for AI governance to a single new AI regulator, it intended to empower existing regulators, and that there were several that existed in the education sector already. Other points raised during the session included the idea of teaching a degree of scepticism in the public's understanding of AI, meaning that the public should not believe everything that something like ChatGPT, a large language model, returns, for instance, when queried. Concerns about the speed of AI development were raised, there were questions on safeguarding, ethics, transparency, explainability, access to the technology, autonomy, adaptivity and more. In today's episode, we'd like to revisit those thoughts on AI regulation, evidence and effectiveness, student outcomes in AI assessment, and what we think the future of AI-powered education might look like and why… Talking points and questions include: Quality of evidence for improved student outcomes using AI The value of assessment: how, when, why, and in what form More discussion around the future of education with AI's inclusion, and what we can do now Material discussed in today's episode includes: Science and Technology Committee Oral evidence: Governance of artificial intelligence – PDF transcript as well as link to the video on the first page Daisy Christodoulou Books Mindspark Research Impact The Skinny on AI for Education, EVR's newest publication featuring insights, trends and developments in the world of AI Ed

Rose plays host to Nina Huntemann, Chief Academic Officer of Chegg, and Lord Jim Knight, in the EdTech Podcast Zoom studio this week, attempting to understand how best to cut through the white noise surrounding AI's hype, misinformation, exaggeration and marketing, and determining just how positive for education AI can be if done responsibly. In our previous episodes on AI, Rose has been in conversation with universities from the US and the UK, examining what the role is for emerging technologies in higher education and what capacity exists to implement AI effectively. The podcast also saw a contributions from Karine George in discussing whether or not the release and widespread use of ChatGPT has actually done education a favour. Has its proliferation sparked debate about human cognition and limited understandings of AI, or initiated conversations in schools around digital transformation and strategy? In this episode, we'd like to extend these same thoughts on AI to pedagogic effectiveness in education and academia, and how emerging technologies like AI can be incorporated into plans for companies' commercial services. Talking points in today's episode includes: The development of ethical AI in commercial enterprises and how they ensure their responsible technologies are developed Tensions between the wealth of AI tools available and regulation of the market and educational use of such technologies Assessing AI tools' effectiveness Cutting through the huge amount of hype, headlines, and sensationalism at the heart of the communications and marketing around AI Material discussed in today's episode includes: Yes, AI could profoundly disrupt education, but maybe that's not a bad thing, article in the Guardian UK Newspaper by Professor Rose Luckin Chegg's Centre for Digital Learning The Skinny on AI for Education, EVR's newest publication featuring insights, trends and developments in the world of AI Ed

Karine and Rose meet this week to discuss Ofsted ratings, how AI can transform teachers' day-to-day tasks, and interview friend and colleague Dr Fiona Aubrey Smith on the recent publication of her book: From EdTech to PedTech: Changing the Way We Think About Digital Technology. Aimed at teachers and leaders looking to create greater impact on teaching and learning through the use of digital technology in schools, From EdTech to PedTech translates research on the effective integration of digital technology in education into relevant, accessible, and practical guidance for teachers and school leaders. This much-needed handbook bridges the gap between knowing 'what works' and knowing how to make it work for you and your learners. Ofsted's rating can be transformative and catastrophic. Given Karine's experience as a headteacher, what does she think of its one-word proclamations? Also under discussion is the DfE's call for submission of evidence regarding the opportunities and risks of AI in education, and their recently published report on generative AI, available to view below. Material discussed in this episode includes: From EdTech to PedTech: Changing the Way we Think About Digital Technology UK Department for Education: Generative AI in Education: Departmental Statement Institute for Ethical AI in Education: Final Report OECD: Empowering Young Children in the Digital Age Machine Learning & Human Intelligence To get the latest insights, trends and developments on AI for Education, subscribe to EVR's new fortnightly publication: The Skinny on AI for Education

The fifth and final episode in the Evidence-Based EdTech miniseries produced by Professor Rose Luckin's EDUCATE Ventures Research, exploring education, research, AI and EdTech, and hosted on The Edtech Podcast The Evidence-Based EdTech miniseries connects, combines, and highlights leading expertise and opinion from the worlds of EdTech, AI, Research, and Education, helping teachers, learners, and technology developers get to grips with ethical learning tools led by the evidence. In our previous episode, Rose was in conversation with representatives from Make (Good) Trouble, Feminist Internet, and Soundwaves Foundation, an organisation pursuing technology to assist with deaf or hearing-impaired students in the classroom. We asked a number of questions that centred around what inclusive technology looks like to each of the guests in the room, given that they had and worked with unique perspectives, and what their thoughts were around user agency and why it was so vital EdTech developers be mindful of this in the creation of their products. Our last question was on what we should demand of technology that it cater to people from diverse backgrounds. Was it data, the context, access, that allowed tech to help those from diverse backgrounds? In this episode, we'd like to extend these same thoughts on DEI and ethics outward, beyond the borders of the UK. We'll be asking: Are international education ecosystems implementing their diversity, equity and inclusion any differently from that of the UK? What could be learned from them that EdTech developers and educationalists can adopt and use in the UK? From an international perspective, is the technology developed in the first world, but exported to the third, sensitive to the context of its use or too prescriptive? And as an additional point, has the third world reshaped its attitudes towards diversity and ethics in technology in line with what it believes the first world will find desirable or employable? There's rumour of national and international standards for good evidence in EdTech coming out of some countries, with presumably varying emphasis placed on adherence to these standards by different governments and regulatory bodies. What is our guest's opinion on how robust they think regulation needs to be where EdTech evidence is concerned, and how strictly do they think such standards should be enforced when developing and using EdTech? Our guest this week is Jane Mann, Managing Director for Cambridge Partnership for Education. With over two decades of experience in the education sector, as Managing Director of the Cambridge Partnership for Education Jane is now focused on working with ministries of education, government agencies, NGOs, donor agencies and educational organisations to advocate for, design and implement effective programmes of education transformation. The Cambridge Partnership for Education works across the globe in curriculum and assessment design and development, creation of teaching and learning resources, professional development, stakeholder engagement and English language learning and skills. Thank you to Cambridge Partnership for Education for sponsoring this episode, and for supporting the Evidence-Based EdTech series on the EdTech Podcast.

Karine and Rose meet this week to discuss how EdTech entrepreneurs and developers can evidence the impact of their products and services, with special guests Rajeshwari Iyer and Kavitha Ravindran of sAInaptic, the AI-powered EdTech app delivering interactive, instant, and personalised learning experiences for the UK's GCSE sciences. Also in the news are reports of 'learning poverty' as both UK and international publications warn of 'cracks in the foundations' of education: a quarter of a million children are entering secondary education without basic skills in maths and English. Why is this happening, and with regard to maths, what technology exists to help solve the problem? And how do we know whether or not this technology does what it claims? To take part in the EDUCATE Programme, visit https://www.educateventures.com

Hello everyone and welcome to The Edtech Podcast and this final episode in collaboration with EdSurge. This is the last episode in a three-part series to explore the nuances of adult lifelong learners and what sparks their return to University. A shout out to WorkTripp and Lumina Foundation for supporting this episode, EdSurge for the amazing journalism, and great to have the learner voice front and centre in this mini-series. As always, do let us know what you think. Here we go….

Welcome to the fourth episode in a series produced by Professor Rose Luckin's EDUCATE Ventures Research, exploring 'Evidence-Based EdTech', and hosted on The Edtech Podcast. For this episode we will examine topics such how we use existing technology to assist with DEI and ethics, and what we know of technology that does not include this perspective. We ask why that might be, and we look at the art of data capture, and data irresponsibility: what are we capturing that we shouldn't, who is being affected by our biases, and if this is a step in the development of technological interventions that organisations can afford to skip. How do we mitigate systemic bias and scaled harm? What are examples of inclusive technology that accommodate the learning styles, online behaviours, device access, and dis/abilities of learners? Can we place more pressure on leadership in schools and institutions to incorporate inclusive technologies? What do we know of user agency, and how does that affect the design and transparency of an EdTech solution?

Karine and Rose meet this week to discuss Internet Safety with Edurio's Ernest Jenavs, and Natterhub's Caroline Allams. The group will explore Edurio's Autumn 2022 report on Pupil Safeguarding, the reaction to Ofsted Chief Inspector Amanda Spielman's 'surprise' over mobile phone use in-class, and discuss good technology role-modelling for young people.

Bett is a gigantic trade show, with over 30,000 people coming to East London's ExCel Centre every year, and 600 resource and solution providers exhibiting in its massive halls. Amongst the new products, innovations, conversations and meetings, however, is the public, with that overriding question: what can I find here? This week, we invite a teacher, educational technology researcher, and founder and CEO, to answer why they return to the show year after year, and what questions they ask of the technology on display, and the predictions made in the heart of the Bett arenas.

The next Bett is being billed as the best Bett ever. It's always an important date on the education calendar, but what will make this one different? Hear what Bett is doing differently, why it's important, and what they'll be doing to measure whether or not it works. Here's a hint: it's all about the data.

We examine AI and EdTech penetration in universities and what form that takes, what capacity exists to implement these changes effectively; we'll look at 21st Century HE learner needs, such as personalisation, recommendations, intelligent support, profiling and prompts; try to determine how to provide added value to university experience given the costs involved, and what the future of tech-enhanced HE could look like to help produce the best graduates possible.

Welcome to this episode in our series produced by Professor Rose Luckin's EDUCATE Ventures Research, and hosted on The Edtech Podcast In this episode, Karine and Rose meet this week to discuss the Online Safety Bill, school absences, and ChatGPT, the latter of which has produced huge public debate, from teacher anxieties to developer felicitations, questions from parents, and columnist think pieces all around the presence of AI in the classroom. With all of these concerns, however, is it possible that ChatGPT has done education a favour? OpenAI's ChatGPT is the third and latest version of their text-generating AI technology, and it's been trained on over 45 terabytes of data. If that seems like a lot, it is: the entirety of English-language Wikipedia accounts for just 1% of that volume in comparison. The talk of Twitter and intrigued educationalists in schools around the anglosphere, much of the discussion has been around its use as a replacement for human cognition: will students use it to cheat in essays and assessments? Does its information retrieval dumb-down student opportunities for learning when material is simply parroted, rather than interrogated and the learning then applied in novel contexts? In this week's episode, Karine and Rose discuss practical uses for this incredibly powerful tool, and explain why human and machine intelligence can work together successfully to improve teaching and learning, and our understanding of AI. Material discussed in this episode includes: Square Peg's new book by Fran Morgan and Ellie Costello, with Ian Gilbert: Square Pegs: Inclusivity, Compassion, and Fitting In - a Guide for Schools, available here EVR and Cambridge Partnership for Education's Covid-19 report: Shock to the System: Lessons from Covid-19, available here

Welcome to this episode in our series produced by Professor Rose Luckin's EDUCATE Ventures Research, exploring 'Evidence-Based EdTech', and hosted on The Edtech Podcast This mini-series connects, combines, and highlights leading expertise and opinion from the worlds of EdTech, AI, Research, and Education, helping teachers, learners, and technology developers get to grips with ethical learning tools that are led by the evidence. For this episode, Rose and Karine play host to Lord Jim Knight in the EdTech Podcast Zoom studio this week, and try to understand the arguments surrounding the establishment of Oak National Academy as an 'Arm's Length Body'. They dig into whether Oak Academy - an organisation providing an online classroom and resource hub and set up in the UK during the pandemic - has shifted substantially from a well-intentioned response to Covid to something more challenging for the Edtech sector and potentially those it serves. And finally, shout out to Rose, Karine and Jim for also digging into the world of ChatGPT and how we should start thinking of that within our classrooms and for our young people. Thank you to Learnosity for sponsoring this episode, and for supporting the Evidence-Based EdTech series on the EdTech Podcast.

Hello everyone and welcome back to The Edtech Podcast, where we aim to improve the dialogue between "ed" and "tech" for better innovation and impact. In this series, sponsored by WorkTripp, we are looking at all things Future of Work, and how that intersects with learning, leadership, humans, and technology. In this episode, I'm chatting with author and founder Garry Pratt. We explore: The foundations of entrepreneurialism The evolution of edtech (and the internet) The science behind outdoor time, creativity and innovation (for entrepreneurs & educators) Show Notes and References You can find links to any references from the episode in our show notes: https://theedtechpodcast.com/edtechpodcast. Tell us your story We'd love to hear your thoughts. Record a quick free voicemail via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via twitter @podcastedtech or via The Edtech Podcast LinkedIn page or Instagram.

Hello everyone and welcome to The Edtech Podcast and this episode in collaboration with EdSurge. This is the second episode in a three-part series to explore the nuances of adult lifelong learners and what sparks their return to University. A shout out to WorkTripp and Lumina Foundation for supporting this episode, EdSurge for the amazing journalism, and great to have the learner voice front and centre in this mini-series. As always, do let us know what you think.

Welcome to the second episode in a series produced by Professor Rose Luckin's EDUCATE Ventures Research, exploring 'Evidence-Based EdTech', and hosted on The Edtech Podcast This mini-series connects, combines, and highlights leading expertise and opinion from the worlds of EdTech, AI, Research, and Education, helping teachers, learners, and technology developers get to grips with ethical learning tools that are led by the evidence. For this episode, we examine the state of technology in work, training, and mentorship, and ask what role evidence plays when we are dealing with environments where (usually) productivity is the thing that's measured. Is productivity for the sake of it good? How do we know the technology that the current and future workforce encounters, benefits them? As many roles demand a more complex skill set, and fluency in technology, is there a risk we're leaving people behind? What do employability, recruitment, and skills look like in the age of the portfolio career? We'll be asking: Are the skills, the ways of working, ways of thinking, ways of measuring success, that schools teach young people, appropriate for today's world of work? How we balance human intelligence in the workplace with, broadly, 'machine intelligence'; that is how we work with and support the human learner or worker, with the tech that many workplaces ask us to use What do we mean by 'deep skills/reskilling/upskilling', and this idea that people aren't just sticking to one role, one organisation or type of work for 20, 30, 50 years? And most importantly, what evidence is there to help us understand what young people need and what can be done to effectively prepare young people for their ever-changing futures? Thank you to Learnosity for sponsoring this episode, and for supporting the Evidence-Based EdTech series on the EdTech Podcast.

Welcome to this Christmas/Seasonal bonus episode examining evidence-based EdTech in toys for children and young people. Featuring two hosts from the EDUCATE Ventures Research team, founder Rose Luckin and former headteacher and Chief Education Advisor Karine George, this seasonal special looks at a number of EdTech must-have toys and the questions that should be asked of them by any parent and carer looking to spend their money wisely. Toys are tools of play, and the educational toy market is booming. Below you can find our list of questions to ask of the technology. Head to our website for details of the toys/models in question to help you hunt down the best deals across the holiday season and whenever you are thinking about EdTech across the rest of the year. The Questions User Agency – one of the potential advantages technology brings is the potential for a child to gain some agency – to be in charge. What does this tech do to enable agency? Versatility – is the toy versatile to meet specific needs? For example, if the child has problems with fine motor skills then small controllers or keyboards may not be the best option? If they are visually impaired, they may need text to speech or a connected refreshable braille display. Ensure the games are age appropriate Value for Money – will you need to buy additional accessories? Are there subscription costs? How durable is the toy? Evidence – what evidence exists to say this toy works or has value, and are you convinced by it? Long-Term Engagement – will this toy or device live past a honeymoon period? Safety/Ethics – does this toy connect to the internet? If it can then two issues need to be addressed: what can the child access through this device, and what information about the child is being tracked or recorded and how is this being used? Tell us where you are listening in from We'd love to hear your thoughts. Record a quick free voicemail via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via Twitter @podcastedtech or via The Edtech Podcast LinkedIn page or Instagram.

Welcome to this first episode in a series produced by Professor Rose Luckin's EDUCATE Ventures Research, exploring 'Evidence-Based EdTech', and hosted on The Edtech Podcast. This mini-series connects, combines, and highlights leading expertise and opinion from the worlds of EdTech, AI, Research, and Education, helping teachers, learners, and technology developers get to grips with ethical learning tools that are led by the evidence. For this episode we examine the presence of EdTech in schools, looking at how we judge whether the tech 'works' or not. We explore what makes for good evidence, why contextual use is significant, and how school CPD, infrastructure development, and staff capacity building are vital to making the most of the tools at our disposal. We are chatting to: Tom Hooper – Founder and CEO, Third Space Learning Neelam Parmar – Director of Digital Transformation and Education, AISL Harrow Schools Richard Culatta – Author, CEO, ISTE Katie Novak – Strategist, Writer, Smart Technologies Host: Rose Luckin – Professor of Learner Centred Design, UCL, Founder, EDUCATE Ventures Research Can our schools operate as testbeds for emerging technology, and is this an ethical or beneficial use of class time? Why is an evidence-led investment and regulatory ecosystem so important? What is a 'research mindset' for aspiring technology developers, and do users even care about the evidence? We'll be asking: How do we know EdTech works? What does good evidence look like, and what can stakeholders in the ecosystem do to ensure it is high-quality? What are the biggest barriers to generating good evidence and getting it into the hands of the people in companies responsible for technology development, and into the hands of those using that technology? Thank you to SMART Technologies for sponsoring this episode, and for supporting the Evidence-Based EdTech series on the EdTech Podcast

Hello everyone and welcome back to The Edtech Podcast, where we aim to improve the dialogue between "ed" and "tech" for better innovation and impact. In this NEW series, sponsored by WorkTripp, we are looking at all things Future of Work, and how that intersects with learning, leadership, humans, and technology. In this episode, I'm chatting with the authors of WorkStyle, and the founders of Hoxby, Lizzie Penny and Alex Hirst. We explore: Why 2014 is a magical year for the "future of work" The role of technology in the "future of work" Why flexible working and the 4 day working week still track back to the 9 to 5 Autonomy, motivation and upskilling Show Notes and References You can find links to any references from the episode in our show notes: https://theedtechpodcast.com/edtechpodcast. Tell us your story We'd love to hear your thoughts. Record a quick free voicemail via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via twitter @podcastedtech or via The Edtech Podcast LinkedIn page or Instagram.

What's in this episode? Hello beautiful listeners! In this episode, we chat to: A business on a mission to provide better opportunities to apprentices through technology and coaching, with Chichi Eruchalu, Head of Leadership Development, Multiverse A business that maps talented gamer skills traits to learner and employment pathways with David Barrie, Founder, Game Academy An online community working connecting 11 million unpaid carers to peer-to-peer learning with James Townsend, Founder, Mobilise This episode is part of our VocTech Podcast series produced in collaboration with Ufi VocTech Trust, as part of the annual #WeekOfVocTech. Check out the full episode show notes and references here: https://theedtechpodcast.com/edtechpodcast. Tell us your story Record a quick free voicemail via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via Twitter @podcastedtech or via The Edtech Podcast Facebook page or Instagram. We'd love to hear your thoughts.

What's in this episode? In this week's episode, we are in collaboration with EdSurge and publishing the first of a three-part series EdSurge have developed to explore the nuances of adult lifelong learners and what sparks their return to University. There are 36 million Americans who have earned some college credit, but not an actual degree. More colleges than ever are trying to help these students return to finish what they started. But so far, colleges are better at attracting these learners than helping them get across the finish line. Why is it so hard? What do these students want? What challenges do they face? And what strategies seem to be working? Listen in for this first peek into how life events and external forces often challenge our well-laid educational plans and what become the motivational forces for us completing University as returning adult learners? Questions in my head, as we venture through the series. Will our future education be less about finishing and more about dipping in as and when? Will we get over the to do list of completing our college degree? And how can technology (as well as intrinsic motivation) help keep us on track? A shout out to WorkTripp and Lumina Foundation for supporting this episode, EdSurge for the amazing journalism, and great to have the learner voice front and centre in this mini-series. As always, do let us know what you think. We would love to hear from you. Record a quick free voicemail about this episode via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via Twitter @podcastedtech or via The Edtech Podcast Facebook page or Instagram. Rate and Review. By dropping us a rate or review or sharing this episode, you help other new listeners find us. Thank you and happy listening.

What's in this episode? This week we're back with our VocTech Podcast, this time looking at skills development in the new world of work. As we move towards ever more atomised modes of work, is there a risk we don't develop our skills properly, just going from one gig to another? If we are going to prevent that from happening, what do we need our freelance, flexible or gig economy platforms to look like and to build in? Is this ever likely? This week we're back with our VocTech Podcast, exploring these questions with special guests. Sophie Smallwood, RoleShare - which helps people keep up with work and life healthily. Helen Gironi, Ufi Ventures - the UK's specialist investor in EdTech for adults Christina Palmou, formerly of the Tony Blair Institute - which was set up to help make globalisation work for the many, not the few This episode is part of our VocTech Podcast series produced in collaboration with Ufi VocTech Trust. Check out the full episode show notes and references here: https://theedtechpodcast.com/edtechpodcast. Tell us your story Record a quick free voicemail via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via Twitter @podcastedtech or via The Edtech Podcast Facebook page or Instagram. We'd love to hear your thoughts.

Thanks to Learnosity and WorkTripp for sponsoring this episode. In this episode, I'm in conversation with: Felix Atkin, the Founder & CEO at Sharesy, on dealing with cost pressures in schools Dr Maureen Dunne, neurodiversity advisor to Lego Foundation and the President and CEO of Autism Community Ventures, on supporting innovation in the area of neurodiversity We talk about: How to help schools raise extra funds by easily supporting their community needs What funds are available for innovation around neurodiverse needs – including USD 20 million to catalyse innovation supporting neurodivergent children Why this matters and can strengthen the education, products, services and business we build and use Plus, some updates on edtech events, reports, and other news. Show Notes and References You can find links to any references from the episode in our show notes: https://theedtechpodcast.com/edtechpodcast. Tell us your story We'd love to hear your thoughts. Record a quick free voicemail via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via Twitter @podcastedtech or via The Edtech Podcast Facebook page or Instagram.

In this bonus episode of The Edtech Podcast, we are in collaboration with Teacher's Voices, with guest host Nina Alonso, and in partnership with Bold, the digital platform on learning and development. In this episode, Nina speaks to: Jason Yip, assistant professor of digital youth at The Information School at the University of Washington and, Koen Timmers, a lecturer, author and founder of several global educational projects. Plus, some updates on edtech events, reports, and other news. Show Notes and References You can find links to any references from the episode in our show notes: https://theedtechpodcast.com/edtechpodcast. Tell us your story We'd love to hear your thoughts. Record a quick free voicemail via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via Twitter @podcastedtech or via The Edtech Podcast Facebook page or Instagram.

Thanks to Learnosity and WorkTripp for sponsoring this episode. In this episode, I'm in conversation with: Laura Warnier, the Chief Growth Officer at online tutoring platform GoStudent We talk about: The factors involved in GoStudent's rapid expansion – investment, team, zeitgeist. Laura's view on network effects and membership models Near to peer tutoring, support and engagement Plus, some updates on edtech events, reports, and other news.

Hello everyone and welcome back to The Edtech Podcast, where we aim to improve the dialogue between "ed" and "tech" for better innovation and impact. This week's episode is part of our series collaboration with Bett, supported by Pearson. In this episode we are focused on The Future of Work, exploring: Significant trends and drivers for The Future of Work, including push and pull factors for employers and young people in new employment Demands and expectations in the workplace and how this is changing how we prepare young people for the world of work Interesting sector-specific case studies in real-world learning and reskilling. Attributes for success, and the role of technology and humans in the new world of work, including emotional state and learner motivation I'm in conversation with: Miriam Partington, a future of work reporter at Sifted, a publication covering European startups and technology Cheri Ashby, Deputy Chief Executive, Activate Learning Richard George, VP at Faethm, Data analyst, and author of the report Robot-Proof Work Capabilities Show Notes and References You can find links to any references from the episode in our show notes: https://theedtechpodcast.com/edtechpodcast. Tell us your story We'd love to hear your thoughts. Record a quick free voicemail via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via twitter @podcastedtech or via The Edtech Podcast Facebook page or Instagram.

Thanks to Learnosity and WorkTripp for sponsoring this episode. In this episode, I'm in conversation with: Nathalie Lesselin, Founder and CEO, Kokorolingua, from Switzerland Marie Mérouze, CEO Marbotic, from France Sari Hurme-Mehtälä, Founder CEO, Kide Science, from Finland Dominika Gyanyi , Head of Education, BookrKids, from Hungary We talk about: The challenge and opportunity of technology in early years, and how to bring it back to hands-on learning The opportunity to leverage popular culture and storytelling in early years learning Developing an inherent love of learning without reliance on gamification This is episode four from our new series with the Female Edtech Fellowship, a collaboration between the European Edtech Alliance and Supercharger Ventures to support the growth of the most promising female founders in Europe.

Hello everyone and welcome back to The Edtech Podcast, where we aim to improve the dialogue between "ed" and "tech" for better innovation and impact. This week's episode is part of our series collaboration with Bett, supported by Pearson. In this episode we are focused on Education and Esports, exploring: What is Esports and why does it matter? The scale of the Esports industry. How students are engaging with business, design, and communication through Esports How colleges are bringing Esports into their curriculum with an Esports BTEC Esports, diversity, student engagement and pathways to work and careers How to communicate Esports to parents, Governance boards and students How to change thinking around investment and kit requirements towards learning outcomes and practical approaches I'm in conversation with three incredibly passionate individuals: Tom Dore, Education Director, British Esports, Shubbs Naika-Taylor, Curriculum Manager for Digital, Coventry College and Camilla Maurice, Curriculum Manager, MidKent College. A quick hello from Kaan who's interested in working in the EdTech industry as well. Show Notes and References You can find links to any references from the episode in our show notes: https://theedtechpodcast.com/edtechpodcast. Tell us your story We'd love to hear your thoughts. Record a quick free voicemail via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via twitter @podcastedtech or via The Edtech Podcast Facebook page or Instagram.

What's in this episode? This week we're back with our VocTech Podcast, this time looking at assessment and skills and thinking about what is skill and how should we measure it? This episode is part of our VocTech Podcast series produced in collaboration with Ufi VocTech Trust. I'm in conversation with: Sharath Jeeven OBE, Intrinsic Labs, Abby Gilbert, Institute for the Future of Work, Amelia Peterson, The London Interdisciplinary School, Christopher Mallet, Bodyswaps and Jessica Blakey, Head of Assessment Innovation, NCFE We talk about: What we don't want from assessment and the more nefarious applications of assessment in the workplace How we can think more broadly about skills and motivation What new approaches are out there How new innovation is being funded and supported You'll also hear about event and grant funding updates. Check out the full episode show notes and references here: https://theedtechpodcast.com/edtechpodcast. Tell us your story Record a quick free voicemail via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via Twitter @podcastedtech or via The Edtech Podcast Facebook page or Instagram. We'd love to hear your thoughts.

Our thanks to Learnosity and WorkTripp for sponsoring this episode. In this episode, I'm in conversation with the amazing Madeleine Wolf, Founder and CEO, VisionYOU, Germany and Kadri Tuisk, Founder and CEO Clanbeat, Estonia. We talk about: What insights you uncover speaking to 300 headteachers in Germany How to think about the "wicked (complex) problem" of student wellbeing Plus, listener discounts for upcoming events, accerator deadlines and more... This is episode three from our new series with the Female Edtech Fellowship, a collaboration between the European Edtech Alliance and Supercharger Ventures to support the growth of the most promising female founders in Europe. Follow along @EuropeanEdtech #femaleedtechfellowship

Hello everyone and welcome back to The Edtech Podcast, where we aim to improve the dialogue between "ed" and "tech" for better innovation and impact. This week's episode is part of our series collaboration with Bett, supported by Pearson. Recorded LIVE at Bett 2022, you'll hear from; David Price, OBE and author of Power of Us @DavidPriceOBE Valerie Hannon, Systems rethinker, and author of Thrive: The Purpose of Schools in a Changing World, @valeriehannon and Siân Gresswell, Senior Adviser for Careers and Employability, at GreenWood Academies. Sophie Bailey, Founder and Host, The Edtech Podcast | Twitter: @podcastedtech, Founder, WorkTripp We're talking about Schools, Employability and Skills. Namely; How to continually develop and connect a careers programme to real-world opportunities. Connecting students and school teams to the "outside world", and, Helping students find their why in a local and global context. Show Notes and References You can find links to any references from the episode in our show notes: https://theedtechpodcast.com/edtechpodcast. Tell us your story We'd love to hear your thoughts. Record a quick free voicemail via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via twitter @podcastedtech or via The Edtech Podcast Facebook page or Instagram.

Episode two from our new series with the Female Edtech Fellowship, a collaboration between the European Edtech Alliance and Supercharger Ventures to support the growth of the most promising female founders in Europe. In this second episode, I'm in conversation with the amazing Nele Mletschkowsky, Co-Founder and now CEO of Quofox and Riccarda Zezza the Italian founder and CEO of Lifeed. We talk about demands in reskilling and upskilling, applying life skills into the workplace and securing investment for fast growth businesses working in lifelong learning. Follow along @EuropeanEdtech #femaleedtechfellowship

Bruce Daisley is a best selling author and technology leader from the UK. He is one of the most respected thought leaders on the subject of workplace culture and the future of work and spent 12 years running Twitter in Europe and previously YouTube in the UK. In this episode, we chat about challenging the "resilience orthodoxy" and challenging expected work intensity, and recognising the amazing power of groups for learning. I also share which events The Edtech Podcast will be at in the next few weeks. This is an episode with loads of amazing recommendations - happy listening!

Happy International Women's Day!! What better way to celebrate than to release this first episode from our new series with the Female Edtech Fellowship, a collaboration between the European Edtech Alliance and Supercharger Ventures to support the growth of the most promising female founders in Europe. In this first episode, I'm in conversation with Beth Havinga and Svenia Busson of the European Edtech Alliance about female-led edtech innovation. We talk about the hopes of the fellowship, and a new investment fund that Svenia will be leading on. Coming up on the series, we've got episodes on school digital strategies, corporate learning, and creative problem solving. Follow along @EuropeanEdtech #femaleedtechfellowship

What's in this episode? In this episode, I chat with Al Kingsley, author of My Secret Edtech Diary, MAT Leader and Edtech CEO. We chat about: Essential questions you should be asking around edtech Practical considerations for funding and implementing Edtech How to create change through informal and formal channels, without doing it all yourself. Plus, a shout out to listeners around the world. You can follow Al at @AlKingsley_Edu Check out the full episode show notes and references here: https://theedtechpodcast.com/edtechpodcast. Tell us your story Record a quick free voicemail via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via Twitter @podcastedtech or via The Edtech Podcast Facebook page or Instagram. We'd love to hear your thoughts.

What's in this episode? In this episode, I chat with Emily Devonald, Co-Founder, KEVRI, an early-stage startup focused on making knowledge exchange easier to capture for Universities. We chat about: Who is responsible for knowledge exchange within Higher Education Which countries are doing knowledge exchange "well" and what this means for innovation The effect of the pandemic and Brexit on knowledge exchange in the U.K vs. ROW. You can follow Kevri @kevridotco Check out the full episode show notes and references here: https://theedtechpodcast.com/edtechpodcast. Tell us your story Record a quick free voicemail via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via Twitter @podcastedtech or via The Edtech Podcast Facebook page or Instagram. We'd love to hear your thoughts.

What's in this episode? Welcome back listeners...here's to 2022! In this episode, it's James Plunkett, Author of End State: 9 Ways Society is Broken and How We Will Fix It. James is also Executive Director, Design, Data and Technology at Citizens Advice and has held various roles across the Resolution Foundation, Young Foundation and the Centre for Data Ethics and Innovation. We chat about: The challenges of upskilling in an atomised gig economy Bold approaches to adult education Why sustaining change management puts you in a long line of social reformers. Keep going! This episode is part of our VocTech Podcast series produced in collaboration with Ufi VocTech Trust. You can follow James @jamestplunkett Check out the full episode show notes and references here: https://theedtechpodcast.com/edtechpodcast. Tell us your story Record a quick free voicemail via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via Twitter @podcastedtech or via The Edtech Podcast Facebook page or Instagram. We'd love to hear your thoughts.

What's in this episode? This episode, recorded for the Reimagine Education Conference 2021 with Lumina Foundation and Bloom Institute of Technology (formerly known as Lambda School), is about pioneering new education models. In this episode, we chat about The value of credentials and why they matter Whether regulation is fit for new business models to evolve Whether there is a risk of the 'haves and have nots" aligning with campus / virtual ed How to ensure equal scrutiny of all education models to ensure value for the learner People: Dr Courtney Brown, Vice President for Impact and Planning, Lumina Foundation | Twitter: @CourtLB; @LuminaFound Mr Austen Allred, Co-Founder & CEO, Bloom Institute of Technology (fka Lambda School) | Twitter: @Austen; @bloomtech Sophie Bailey, Founder and Presenter of The Edtech Podcast | Twitter: @podcastedtech Check out the full episode show notes and references here: https://theedtechpodcast.com/edtechpodcast. Tell us your story Record a quick free voicemail via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via Twitter @podcastedtech or via The Edtech Podcast Facebook page or Instagram. We'd love to hear your thoughts.

What's in this episode? Hello and welcome to the next series of The VocTech Podcast where we take a look at vocational learning technologies and improving opportunity in the workplace. This series is supported by Ufi VocTech Trust. This episode was recorded LIVE at the Week Of Voctech and in it, you'll hear about; how to remove barriers in education how to boost learner confidence, and how to build a use case for tech in learning within a corporate or workplace environment Happy listening! Join in the conversation using #VocTechPodcast and #VocTech. People Mark Baxter, Technical Director and Co-Founder, Digitalnauts | Twitter: @BaxterCodes, @Digitalnauts Dr Andrea Cullen, Lead Tutor & Co-founder, CAPSLOCK | Twitter: @stuff4andrea, @capslockcyber Diane Morgan, Director of Talent, Zinc VC | Twitter: @dmorgannyc; @zincvc Sophie Bailey is the Founder and Presenter of The Edtech Podcast | Twitter: @podcastedtech Show Notes and References Check out https://theedtechpodcast.com/edtechpodcast for the full show notes. Tell us your story We'd love to hear your thoughts. Record a quick free voicemail via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via. twitter @podcastedtech or via The Edtech Podcast Facebook page or Instagram.

Hello listeners! In this episode, I am in conversation with Simon Freeman, the MD for IRIS Education who provide agile School Management Software for 12000 schools in the UK and Internationally. Simon has an amazing array of public sector technology experience and in this episode we talk about; How School Leaders can manage the scale of the task ahead when it comes to the role of technology, learning and digitally-competent leadership within the school environment to create precious time for school plans. How to choose agile partners, who can act as a change management partner during this process. What to look out for and what to avoid. How to tap into the data within your school and get your MIS out from under desks. Is that you? The big message here is RELEASE THE DATA! and get onboard with agile processes. Plus, free tickets for listeners to Reimagine Education, and other awards news and updates! Check out the full episode show notes and references here: https://theedtechpodcast.com/edtechpodcast. Tell us your story Record a quick free voicemail via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via Twitter @podcastedtech or via The Edtech Podcast Facebook page or Instagram. We'd love to hear your thoughts.

In this episode, the power of wild, creative thinking with Jaime and Martin from Cosmic Kids Yoga (over 1m subscribers). We chat about; How to channel your energy as an educator when teaching remotely How to evaluate and prioritise new tech tools Bootstrapping successfully and staying lean and true to your values Listening to your customers for new product development Launching specific SEL curriculum content for schools with schools Plus, women in technology, engineering and creativity in the South-West of the U.K and a new University model, powered by creativity - the Falmouth Vice-Chancellor shares their 2030 vision moving to an accelerator, problem-solving model.

In this episode, we look at what happened to edtech in China, covering regulations introduced earlier this year that are changing the way that online tutoring is conducted across China, and looking at what that means for the sector, learners and educators more generally. Plus, new jobs, funding, and startup support. Guests: Emily Tate, Senior Reporter, Early Childhood and K-12 Education, EdSurge | Twitter: @ByEmilyTate Kris Jagasia, CEO, Off2Class | Twitter: @Off2Class Nathan Martin, Editor-in-Chief, EdTech Publik | Twitter: @nathanmart Show Notes and References You can find links to any references from the episode in our show notes here. Tell us your story We'd love to hear your thoughts. Record a quick free voicemail via speakpipe for inclusion in the next episode. Or you can post your thoughts or follow-on links via Twitter @podcastedtech, via The Edtech Podcast Facebook page or Instagram.

Hello listeners! Hello everyone and welcome back to The Edtech Podcast. Our mission is to improve the dialogue between ed and tech for better innovation and impact and it's great to be back. What's in this episode? In this episode, I'm joined by guests to talk about all things audio and learning. We look back at the varied history of audio and learning, plus new applications of audio for learning. We talk about the growth of spoken word, its ability to "represent and overcome" barriers to access, and both high and low tech innovations from Whatsapp to Voice-Activated technology. Plus, public and private playlists, searchability and the role of Big Tech, and the role of audio to share best practice and familiarity between learners within varied learning environments. Also in this episode, new cool things for schools, students and startups to get involved in and a book review from Michael Shaw who has been reading "Teaching Machines". Thanks for listening! Don't forget to drop your comments @podcastedtech on Twitter or during our clubhouse session. Guests: Sophie Bolzer, Founder & CEO, Audvice | Twitter: @sophiesticcated Nigel Smith, Head of Learning, Apolitical | Twitter: @nigelcsmith Ben Schuman-Stoler, Director of Content, Shortcasts, Blinkist | Twitter: @bsto Megan Lazovick, Vice President, Edison Research | Twitter: @Meg_Laz Yehoshua Zlotogorski, Co-founder and CEO, Alpe Audio | Twitter: @yehoshzl

Hello again listeners! Hello everyone and welcome back to The Edtech Podcast. Our mission is to improve the dialogue between ed and tech for better innovation and impact and it's great to be back. What's in this episode? This week we've got Thomas Moule, author of Cracking Social Mobility: how AI and other innovations can help to level the playing field, in conversation with TeacherTapp Co-Founder, Laura McInerney. In this episode, he talks about how technology can help to make education more equitable. For example, Intelligent Tutoring Systems enabling all students to enjoy the benefits of private tuition and AI along with other innovations making teachers more productive and effective, hence improving educational standards equitably across the board. I loved editing this episode and listening to the various pushbacks and qualifications on both sides as the guests navigate contextual admissions, careers advice, and evading technological determinism. I hope you enjoy too. Don't forget to drop your comments @podcastedtech on twitter or during our clubhouse session. Guests: Thomas Moule, author of Cracking Social Mobility: how AI and other innovations can help to level the playing field. Thomas works at Jisc as Product Lead at the National Centre for AI in Tertiary Education and previously led operations at The Institute for Ethical AI in Education, and worked for a leading EdTech company. He started his career as a science teacher, completing the Teach First Programme in Yorkshire. You can find Thomas at @tommoule8 on twitter. Of the biggest myth or foe in education or technology that he would like to see corrected, Thomas writes of the idea that "social mobility is a divisive agenda, which merely aims to airlift the talented few out of poverty whilst neglecting the needs of the many. This characterisation is not only inaccurate, it is dangerous. Talent and potential are distributed equally and abundantly throughout society. The problem is that opportunity is not. Proponents of social mobility simply want this to be put right." Laura McInerney, Co-founder of Teacher Tapp, an app that surveys 8000 teachers every day. "No one was more shocked by my GCSE results than my mum, who seemed to think that teachers telling her I was very clever was just them being polite! Going to a bog-standard comprehensive school (that's now closed) and then to an adult education centre (a weird FE hybrid thing) and then to Oxford does make me think that schools can come in many forms and it call all be okay!"

Still on Summer Break (!), but another in-person recording to celebrate f2f! This time, I'm in conversation with Lindsey Hall Chief Executive Real Ideas Organisation at the VIP opening of the Devonport Markethall in Plymouth. Lindsey is a NESTA Cultural Leadership fellow, an INSEAD graduate, a fellow of the Royal Society of Arts, Trustee of Kernow Education Arts Partnership and Plymouth Culture, member of Plymouth Growth Board and one of the WISE100 social enterprise leaders. During the COVID pandemic, she has advised the Government on the role of social enterprises both socially and economically during a time of extreme isolation. In this episode we chat about how listeners can get involved with the MarketHall 15metre immersive dome - both in terms of content creation, engaging students, and developing workplace practice. This is a really interesting collaboration project, surfacing University expertise, and connecting schools, workplaces, technologists and artists together. Developed by Real Ideas Organisation, in partnership with Plymouth City Council and the Institute of Digital Art and Technology at University of Plymouth, the Market Hall is a £7.6m project which will create a new space for digital, especially those working in immersive and creative applications of technology. Plus, stick around to the outro, to find out about our new self-paced course for launching a podcast - out at the end of Summer 2021.

Still on Summer Break (!), but couldn't resist getting back out there to interview in person. This time, Pavel Cenkl, Director of Learning, Schumacher College is chatting to me about how experiential "Head, Hand, and Heart" learning is adapting to the digital age. Spoiler: international alumni is important! This episode is for anyone grappling with how to push #edtech forward into a more community-based enabler of learning. We also talk about what a global distributed learning network looks like. "The undergraduate degree certificate is not the be-all and end-all of education. We're exploding that." Listen out for some ambient birds and insects as we record among the beautiful Dartington Hall estate, and find out about our new self-paced course for launching a podcast - out at the end of Summer 2021.