
179 Why Seth Failed the Envelope Test
The Early Sessions · C33
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Show Notes
Session 179: Envelopes, Ego, and Existential Vibes
Alright, friends, grab a cold drink and settle in. We are diving into Session 179 of The Early Sessions, Book 4 of the Seth Material, recorded on a sticky, humid Wednesday night—August 18, 1965. It’s the kind of night where the traffic noise is loud, the windows are wide open, and the psychic vibes are flowing despite the humidity.
The "Envelope Test" Drama
Rob (Joseph) decided to get a little sneaky. He made a black ink drawing of a funky symbol (which looks like two intersecting arcs) and added his initials, "RFB." He tucked it into two sealed envelopes so Jane (Ruburt) couldn’t see through them. This was their first official "envelope test." Jane was a bit nervous—who wouldn't be with a ghost-teacher grading your homework?—but she held that envelope in her hands throughout the session.
Seth’s Take on Dr. Instream and Integrity
Before getting to the test results, Seth had some words for a Dr. Instream, who had been writing to them about potential scientific testing. Seth wasn’t about to be a circus act without some mutual respect.
- Trust is a Must: Seth emphasized that while he doesn't set "impossible conditions," you can't get anywhere without a good atmosphere.
- Bluntness as a Brand: Seth admitted he's objective and "given to bluntness." He isn't here to stroke egos; he’s here to work.
- The Seth Quote: "An atmosphere of trust, mutual trust, would however seem to be indispensable. Spontaneity must be allowed for... I did say quite plainly that I would cooperate in any such endeavor that is conducted with integrity, and so I shall."
The Results: A Mix of "Oops" and "Aha!"
When it came time to guess what was in the envelope, things got interesting. Jane’s conscious mind started "helping," which usually leads to a bit of a mess.
- The Misses: Seth (via Jane) thought the envelope contained a legal document or a license, maybe blue or green. Spoiler: It was just Rob’s drawing.
- The "Direct Hit": Seth nailed a specific detail that Jane didn't consciously know. He mentioned another male was involved with the contents. This was a reference to Bill Macdonnel (entity name: Mark), because the symbol Rob drew was one Seth previously claimed Bill had seen on a rowboat in Provincetown.
- The Seth Quote: "It seems that another person is also somehow involved with it, a male... The distortions that appeared are most helpful, in that they allow Ruburt to differentiate between my communications and his own thoughts."
Trance Tech: Room for Two
Seth explained that he and Jane were basically roommates in her head during these sessions. It’s a "permissive relationship" where they coexist side-by-side.
- Personality Coexistence: Jane wasn't in a deep, "lights out" trance. She was aware of the traffic and even lit a cigarette while Seth was talking.
- Practice Makes Perfect: Seth encouraged more tests. He basically said that as the tests become "commonplace," Jane’s ego will stop freaking out and let the info flow without turning a boat symbol into a driver’s license.
- Future Guests: Seth is down to involve friends like Bill and Peggy Gallagher in future remote-viewing experiments.
Final Thoughts and Study Tips
This session reminds us that even "failures" in psychic testing are just data points on the road to getting better. If you want the full, unfiltered experience of these sessions, you’ve got to check out the source.
Deep Dive: You are highly encouraged to study the Seth Material books for yourself. Head over to the New Awareness Network website and bookstore at sethcenter.com/the-early-sessions to grab your copies.