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On April 11, the New York Times published an in-depth examination of the repeated warnings President Trump received concerning the impending coronavirus crisis and the story behind his steadfast opposition to doing anything about the looming disaster. Two of the authors of that exceptional piece, Deep State Radio regular David Sanger and NYT White House correspondent Michael Shear join us for a discussion of the piece and what the president has and has not learned since the first months of mishandling this pandemic. Don't miss it. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The only thing you know about the ghastly numbers the grow larger every day on your computer or television screen is that they are wrong. They hugely understate the number of victims of the current pandemic and because we are testing a fraction of a fraction of what we should be, we can't tell how far off we are...or what the real nature of the disease is. The Administration is lying and suppressing data. And the potential for a horrific second wave later in the year is growing. We discuss how we get to the truth and the nature of the real risk we face with Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut, Pulitzer Prize-winner Laurie Garrett and Ryan Goodman, co-editor of "Just Security" and Professor of Law at NYU Law School. It is essential listening. Don't miss it. If you are a new listener, please consider subscribing and be sure to rate us. You can follow us on Twitter @deepstateradio and Facebook @deepstateradionetwork.com. If you are not a paying member, please consider supporting our work by becoming a member. Visit membership levels for details. Use code "support" for 20% off. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

One of the surest ways to get fired in the Trump Administration is to speak the truth. Ask Captain Brett Crozier. Or just place your duty to the country ahead of your loyalty to Donald Trump. Ask former Intelligence Community Inspector General Michael Atkinson...and so many others. This is not just disturbing behavior it is death by a thousand cuts to democracy and the current COVID crisis is giving Trump and Co. cover to continue their attack on our system. They're not alone however, from Hungary to India, wannabe authoritarians are undermining democratic protections and imposing their will on the people...and no one is pushing back, especially not Donald Trump's USA. So not only is the health of our family and friends at risk, so to is the health of the systems upon which we depend to protect our freedoms. Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law Center, Kori Schake of the American Enterprise Institute, Ed Luce of the Financial Times and David Sanger of the New York Times discuss. Don't miss this podcast. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

America is just over 4% of the world's population but home to 25% of its COVID-19 cases. While European nations like Italy and Spain are wracked with the disease, Europeans typically do not have the added anxiety of trying to figure out how to pay for healthcare or worrying that their government will not support them if they lose their job. We congratulate ourselves on having the strongest economy in the world but are importing basic PPE supplies from China and Russia. Our fragility and our flaws are being revealed as never before. On this episode Dr. Leana Wen, former public health commissioner of Baltimore and an emergency room physician, Edward Luce of the Financial Times and co-host Ryan Goodman of NYU Law School and "Just Security" join host David Rothkopf to discuss and consider the whys of all this and where it will lead. An essential episode. Don't miss. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joe Nye, Harvard professor and formerly Dean of Harvard's Kennedy School of Government, has a timely new book called "Do Morals Matter? Presidents and Foreign Policy from FDR to Trump" that serves as a jumping off point for our discussion of where we are in the current crisis, why we are here and what we can do better going forward. We have an exceptional group discussing these topics including Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law, Kori Schake of the American Enterprise Institute, David Sanger of the New York Times and NY Congressional Candidate Evelyn Farkas. Special Bonus: In addition, this episode features a special one-on-one conversation with former USAID Administrator and former NSC official who was in the middle of the fight to contain ebola, Gayle Smith. It's the kind of in-depth perspectives on the global implications of the COVID-19 crisis you can only find at Deep State Radio. Join us. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In South Africa during the AIDS crisis, as our special guest Dr. Seema Yasmin points out, the government's denial of AIDS took a measurable toll. Today, she argues, we are at risk from the misinformation, denial and deception of many current public officials right here in the U.S. Dr. Yasmin joins Ed Luce of the Financial Times and Ryan Goodman of Just Security and NYU Law School for a discussion of where we are in this global crisis, where it is likely to go, and how to contain the spread of deadly infodemic that is swirling around and compounding the cost of the underlying COVID-19 outbreak. Don't miss it. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

While the debate about managing the pandemic has grown more rancorous in recent days as death tolls have climbed and states have lamented the unresponsiveness of the federal government, while on Capitol Hill the name calling has resumed, the virus is immune to politics. There is a right way and wrong way to manage a pandemic and the resulting economic and social crises it triggers. We discuss how to tell the difference and what lessons we should be learning and applying now with former Obama Admin. ebola czar Ron Klain, David Sanger of the New York Times, Kori Schake of the American Enterprise Institute and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School. You won't want to miss this urgently important discussion. Join us. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Coronavirus Crisis is the first 50 state natural disaster in American history. And while it is certainly not the first for which the federal response was lacking, it may be the worst overall response of an administration to a major crisis in our history. The lies continue. Public confidence continues to erode. Vital supplies from tests to masks to ventilators remain out of reach for many. Coordination is weak. Signs of corruption are brewing. And the President and his team seem to be learning precious little from their errors. So, what's working? Who's succeeding? What's the solution? And how much worse can this get. On this urgently important episode, we discuss with Juliette Kayyem of the Kennedy School at Harvard, Jeremy Konyndyk of the Center for Global Development, both crisis experts, and our own Ryan Goodman of "Just Security" and NYU Law School. Don't miss it. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From an explosion of e-commerce to a re-evaluation of the roll of government, a teaching moment for healthcare policy and geopolitical shocks and aftershocks, the COVID-19 crisis is going to leave the world changed in material ways. We won't be the same again. Kori Schake of the American Enterprise Institute, Ed Luce of the Financial Times and Host David Rothkopf look ahead to the near-term and lasting consequences of a crisis unlike any we have seen since World War II or perhaps since the Spanish Flu of 1918. This an important, thought-provoking discussion. Don't miss it. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

There are countries and systems that are managing the COVID-19 crisis comparatively well. South Korea, which invested heavily and early in testing is one. Singapore, in the view of renowned infectious disease expert and Pulitzer Prize-winner Laurie Garrett, may be an even better one. Their testing is almost ubiquitous and trust in the government's handling of the crisis is rock solid. Garrett, Just Security's Ryan Goodman and host David Rothkopf discuss what we can learn from these success and compare them to the still disastrous situation in the U.S. (and the lunatic approach embraced by the government of the U.K.). From how much longer this social and economically disruptive crisis will go on to what the science is telling us right now, this is an essential discussion. Join us. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lives are at stake in the coronavirus crisis. And the future of democracy is at stake in the upcoming election. What is disturbing is that both vitally important issues depend on all of us having access to the facts and there are powerful forces working to make that difficult. Foreign governments. Our own government. Politicians and other we an axe to grind. We discuss with disinformation expert and former NSC official, Laura Rosenberger, and Ryan Goodman of Just Security, how to tell truth from lies, who is attacking the truth and who are its champions. You won't want to miss this episode. Join us. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In a moment that a global pandemic has you self-quarantined and social distancing and a global market collapse has you terrified about the future and bad leadership has you curled up on under your bed, there is only one perfect solution! Listening to a podcast. That's what's called finding the silver lining. Can we find them with the multiple calamities that have befallen us in the past few weeks (and years...well, since the dawn of time if you want to be accurate)? That's one of the things we discuss with Sharon Weinberger, DC bureau chief of Yahoo News, Ed Luce of the Financial Times, Kori Schake of the American Enterprise Institute and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law. Don't miss it (especially when the alternative is interacting with other people who are likely to be teeming with germs). This episode of Deep State Radio is brought to you by The New Yorker. The New Yorker publishes the best writing by the most influential authors in the world, with award-winning reporting, political commentary and cultural criticism, fiction and poetry, cartoons, and more. In addition to the weekly print magazine, NewYorker.com has become a daily digital destination for news and cultural coverage, with a complementary iOS app that provides the best of both worlds. The New Yorker has won the trust of generations of readers due to its commitment to truth and accuracy, for the quality of its writing, and for its insistence on exciting and moving every reader. The New Yorker has a special offer for Deep State Radio listeners: ● 12 weeks for just $6 (regularly $12) plus The New Yorker tote bag ● Home delivery of the print edition each week ● Unlimited access to newyorker.com with 10-15 exclusive site-only stories every day ● Access to our apps, online archive dating back to 1925, crossword puzzles, and more Visit newyorker.com/deepstate and enter code DEEPSTATE at checkout. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We don't raise an eyebrow when Trump lies. Most of his early lies were of little consequence, about his wealth or sexual prowess or intellect. But in recent weeks, in the midst of the first major International crisis the president has faced (that he did not himself create), we have seen those lies turned into potential weapons of mass destruction. By minimizing the consequences of a global pandemic, many can die, markets can lose faith in public officials, economies can falter. We discuss this disturbing, dangerous phenomenon with Max Boot of the Council on Foreign Relations and Ryan Goodman of NYU Law and "Just Security." We also discuss how it is all a part of an effort by Trump to transform the entire US government into an engine of disinformation that is a grave threat to our national security. Don't miss this important episode. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

After 20 years, the US is trying its best to get out of Dodge in Afghanistan. Trouble is the not-quite-a-peace-deal announced over the weekend fell apart on Monday. The US got out of Syria and now that country is on the verge of what may be a new and horrific humanitarian crisis. By the end of the year, it seems, everyone everywhere may have coronavirus and we're only beginning to understand the consequences of that...or the lengths to which the Trump Administration will lie about what's happening. And the Democratic primaries are going through a massive upheaval...but the question is: Is anything becoming more clearer or is it just becoming clear how unclear everything is? We discuss with regulars Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University, Ed Luce of the Financial Times and special guest Lt. Col. Larry Wilkerson of the College of William and Mary and former Chief of Staff to Secretary of State Colin Powell. You really shouldn't miss a word of this. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Donald Trump has made narcissism the central organizing principle of his government. It used to be said institutions were the lengthened shadow of one man. In the case of the US government today it is the lengthened shadow of one man's psychopathology. Every decision, every action turns on whether Trump and those close to him feel it is good or bad for him personally. And half of America is cool with him shattering norms of law and good governance because they feel DC is broken and doesn't work for them and maybe shattered norms are the way to fix it. And with 40 years of inequality and increased power to the 1% who can blame them? The question is, did they pick the right norms to shatter? And is Trump really on their side? That's what campaign 2020 is going to come down to--but there's a twist. Some of the Dems want to preserve the norms that have screwed the majority of Americans for the past forty years as well. So...where's this all going to end up? We discuss with the Washington Post's Greg Sargent and Ryan Goodman of NYU Law School and Just Security. Don't miss it. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Donald Trump is remaking the U.S. government in ways that make you less safe, make our justice system less fair, put our democracy at greater risk. This past week we have seen manifold examples of the Trump method for putting down opposition, twisting the facts, suppressing intelligence, culling experts and independent thinkers and doing it all constantly to a devastating cumulative effect. Kori Schake of AEI, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law and Joe Cirincione of the Ploughshares Fund discuss this and why people may be seeing voters response to it in the primaries in the wrong light. Tune in to this timely and important episode. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Donald Trump is purging his cabinet of expertise and those who place loyalty to the Constitution above that to Trump personally. In the intelligence community, State Department, Justice Department, Department of Defense and the National Security Council we have seen an exodus of talent and a message delivered to all who remain that is positively chilling. Don't raise awareness of threats like Russian election interference because Trump does not want to hear it is just one example. Also: with breaking news out of Afghanistan and the deeply disturbing prognosis from Syria, international crises and potentially unsettling decisions loom as events that may color the 2020 campaign and impact further America's falling standing in the world. We discuss all these issues with one of America's pre-eminent national security thinkers and leaders, Michele Flournoy, former Under Secretary of Defense for Policy and co-founder and managing partner at WestExec Advisors. Flournoy is a likely leader in an incoming Democratic administration and her views are essential to understanding where America is going. Don't miss this conversation. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You may think that all Donald Trump thinks about is himself. Or his latest grift. Or cheeseburgers. But when you look at his recent behavior, it looks like even with impeachment behind him, our president saves most of his bandwidth for the land of Tchaikovsky, Putin and borscht. He shoved aside his acting Director of National Intelligence in a fit of pique over a Congressional briefing from a top IC official saying Russia was planning to interfere in the 2020 elections and do so, again, on Trump's behalf. He put in the DNI's place an acting official with no intelligence background but who might be loyal and help cover Russia's tracks. In a London court this week, lawyers for Julian Assange said Trump, through an intermediary, offered Assange a pardon if he would deny Russian involvement in 2016. Roger Stone got 40 months in prison for, according to the sentencing judge, covering up for Trump--and now, it is suspected, Trump is planning to reward Stone with a pardon. Meanwhile the AG is overseeing an investigation into the intelligence community's past Russia investigations. In short, Trump is sending a message loud and clear to all--he welcomes Russia's help and will protect them and he will penalize those who get in the way. We discuss with Third Way's Mieke Eoyang, Georgetown University's Rosa Brooks and David Sanger of the New York Times. Don't miss it. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It would seem like 2020 would be offering a great opportunity for Democrats what with the president being historical unpopular and perhaps the most corrupt and worst president in U.S. history. But still, Democrats will be Democrats and even with urgency and opportunity looming large, they seem dedicated to the idea of blowing their chances sky high. We discuss how they are doing that and speculate as to why and where all this will lead. Is it already Bernie vs. Bloomberg in the main event? Where might that lead come convention time? And how would the world view a Bloomberg or a Sanders presidency? Ed Luce of the Financial Times, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University Law Center and host David Rothkopf discuss, lament and discuss some more. Join them! Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Coronavirus has a new name: Covid-19. It has infected over 50,000 people and taken over 1,000 lives. But the crisis may be just beginning. And the response of governments from China to the United States may be only be making its potential toll worse. We speak with Pulitzer Prize winning science writer, Laurie Garrett, one of the world's preeminent experts on global public health issues about just how bad the situation is and about some of the most egregious missteps of our leaders to date. We also discuss the fact that as of right now there are multiple serious epidemics occurring simultaneously placing the global health system under unprecedented stress--a situation we could have prepared for but did not. Essential listening. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In 2016, Russia not only helped elect Donald Trump, they also assured Americans would never again be able to look at election results with the same trust they had in the past. If anything, actions by them, the Administration, other bad actors and incompetent administrators have raised unease about what we might expect in this year's election cycle. Beyond that, risks we have focused on in the past, like terrorism, might manifest themselves again--perhaps from dangerous, white supremacist sources. Are we prepared? We discuss with Juliette Kayyem of Harvard's Kennedy School, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School and David Sanger of the New York Times. Don't miss this episode. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With each day since Trump's sham acquittal ceremony, it has become clear that the president sees the outcome that was served up on a silver platter by the servile Senate GOP (with one exception) as the license to behave badly. Trump never disappoints those who expect the worst from him. We discuss where this leaves us with three of the great voices of the resistance--Sarah Kendzior and Andrea Chalupa of "Gaslit Nation" and AG from "Mueller She Wrote." They are, as you'd expect, great...and then we all announce the exciting launch of a major Washington event bringing together many of the very best podcasts for a kind DC PodCon. We call it Washington Today Forum but you can call it WTF for short. It will take place on May 21st at the Warner Theater in Washington, DC. Go to www.thedsrnetwork.com for more details and to reserve your tickets. You won't want to miss this. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If you thought Trump's acquittal by the Senate was the worst thing that could happen this week, you seem to be forgetting who you are dealing with. First, the Senate trial had much value and was, by any reasonable assessment, a net benefit for the country even despite the fact that it wasn't really a trial, was rigged and further empowered a bad president. But in rapid succession we had awards for racists, calls for retribution against the president's enemies, an announcement of Bill Barr further pressing his foot down on the throat of Justice and Trump giving one of the most unhinged and disturbing public performance of his presidency. We discuss what all this means and where it can lead with three of the best commentators out there, Maya Wiley of the New School and an MSNBC commentator, Tom Nichols of the Naval War College and author of "The Death of Expertise" and our own Ryan Goodman of Just Security and NYU Law School. You won't want to miss this. Essential listening. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If you read Fred Kaplan's new book "The Bomb" you will discover that despite the best efforts of some very qualified, competent presidents and their teams, we've come pretty close to blowing up the world a few times over the years. Now we have a president is none of those things. Indeed he's making the risk of global calamity greater with each passing day. So how come no one on the campaign trail is making this a central issue. We discuss with Kaplan, Kori Schake of AEI and, in Des Moines, Iowa, Ed Luce of the Financial Times. Don't you dare miss it. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The House Managers have done an extraordinary job in the Senate trial, led by the eloquence and brilliance of Adam Schiff. They have compellingly made the case that President Trump violated the law and his oath of office and should be removed from that office. But that's not going to happen. Because this trial was rigged from the outset. But does this story end here? Will the House Managers win their case in the court of public opinion? Will that translate into change and a debacle for the president's defenders in November. We discussed with two of the very best experts around, our own Ryan Goodman of Just Security and Asha Rangappa of the Jackson Institute for Global Affairs at Yale University. It's a must-listen. Don't miss it. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The outbreak of coronavirus in China is rapidly emerging as a major global public health crisis? How bad might it get? How is our government doing in handling it? We talk to President Obama's ebola response czar Ron Klain about where we are and what's next? Then, because Ron is a top figure in the Biden campaign, the former VP's former chief of staff, we discuss with him Iowa, the other early primaries and why he thinks a Biden candidacy is the best way to advance a progressive agenda. It's a great new episode that you won't want to miss. Join us. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The Bulletin of Atomic Scientists recently pushed its Doomsday Clock closer to "midnight" than it has ever been. They did this because nuclear safeguards are disappearing, risks are growing and because they include the risk of climate armageddon in their calculus. And you thought the impeachment and the death of American democracy was worrisome! Nuclear expert Jon Wolfsthal, Georgetown's Rosa Brooks, AEI's Kori Schake and the FT's Ed Luce join to discuss all this and answer the question: Who's the most odious member of the Trump Administration? (Who says we don't deal with the really hard questions?) Don't miss it. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

While the outcome of the Senate trial seems a foregone conclusion, even an acquittal might not be good news for President Trump. There are a whole range of long-term consequences of the current drama on the Hill, some with positive implications, some that would be very troubling. On this special impeachment trial episode Ryan Goodman of Just Security, Max Boot of the Council on Foreign Relations and lawyer and legal commentator Katie Phang offer a different perspective on the trial than you have heard anywhere else. Don't miss it. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We're at one of the most fraught moments in American political history. The country is polarized. The president is going to trial. That president is one of the most polarizing figures the world has ever seen. And headlines scream of momentous events in the weeks ahead. Everybody's running a fever and maybe it's time to take two aspirin and call Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University, Kori Schake of the American Enterprise Institute and David Sanger of the New York Times. Because they have just what this moment really calls for: perspective, the long view, even wisdom. This episode of Deep State Radio may not cure what ails you but it'll help you know what the problem really is...and in the end, that's the important thing, isn't it? Join us? Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

As the Senate impeachment trial looms, Republicans seem not to understand what a trial is. They don't want witnesses. They don't want evidence. They especially don't want witnesses or facts that might further implicate the president in crimes. But if they seek no evidence do they also then accept the House's view of the facts as the final truth? Is their stirring defense of the president that they don't care that what he does was illegal rather than proving he didn't do it? We discuss with Mieke Eoyang of the Third Way. Then we turn to Trump's apparent view that if the accusations are a hoax then a fake trade deal can sufficiently distract from it to make it all go away. In fact, GOP counter-programming to the impeachment this week has been two trade deals--one with China and the USMCA. Why did they pick trade? Are these deals significant? And what is the future of trade for the U.S. We discuss with Fred Hochberg, former Eximbank Chairman and author of a great new book entitled "Trade is Not a Four Letter Word." Don't miss this special episode. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The president has no foreign policy expertise, no advisors, no morals, no scruples and he is in deep political hot water at home. So naturally, he wags the dog with an attack on Iranian General Qassem Soleimani. He does it in spite of international law. He lies about it. He doesn't think through the consequences. And he survives politically. So, now you know that as this year of ever-increasing pressure on the president progresses, he's bound to try it again. What dog will he wag next? And which of the issues raised by last week's attack will have the most enduring consequences. We discuss with Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law School and Kori Schake the head of the Foreign Policy and Defense program at the American Enterprise Institute...and it's not a discussion to miss. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

If and when Nancy Pelosi decides to sends the articles of impeachment to the Senate, the odds of a fair trial are slim to none. (Aw, who are we kidding? They're zero.) Trump will be acquitted. He will have a celebratory press conference and declare he has been exonerated, an end to the hoaxy witch hunt. But will his legal troubles stop there? What about as more details of his crimes are revealed? More cover ups take place and are revealed? Other trials reveal more evidence against the president and his men. We discuss with former US prosecutor Harry Litman, Just Security Editorial Director Kate Brannen and Just Security co-editor Ryan Goodman why things might go from bad to worse for Trump and why it could all go on for years. Also discussed: The aftershocks of Kate Brannen's scoop revealing the unredacted contents of communications on the Ukraine scandal that incriminates the president and reveals deep fissures within the Trump Administration. And: Can the president just go around knocking off any foreign leader he wants? Join us. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the days since President Donald Trump ordered the killing of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani, the presidents's spokespeople have taken to the airwaves to claim that we are safer with the Iranian who had the death of hundreds of Americans on his hands gone. But so far, things don't feel safer. The Iranian government--which has a global network of proxies at its disposal--promised revenge. It vowed to enrich uranium beyond limits set by the agreement struck during then Obama Administration. The Iraqi parliament voted to expel U.S. troops from that country and the U.S announced the beginning of its withdrawal. Oil prices moved upward. Russia, Iran, and ISIS stood poised to benefit from declining U.S. influence. To some, another Mideast war seemed inevitable. But is it? Will Iran prove to be the rational actor who calms then situation? Will Trump blink and actually seek the de-escalation his Secretary of State promised? Will divisions in the national security establishment have an impact? Kori Schake of AEI, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law and Joe Cirincione of the Ploughshares Fund discuss on an urgent, can't miss episode of Deep State Radio. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

For Two Years, Rosa Brooks had remained optimistic that despite all that was happening in the Trump administration over the past three years, a full-on constitutional crisis could be avoided. That changed with our episode on October 11, 2019. In this Best of Deep State Radio episode, we’ve pieced together several of these discussions including what led Rosa to declare a constitutional crisis. Tune In. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the last episode of not just 2019 but of the entire decade for Deep State Radio, we gather Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law, Stephen Walt of Harvard's Kennedy School, David Sanger of the New York Times and Ed Luce of the Financial Times to reflect on the ten years just past. We identify the big geopolitical trends from the rise of China (and Russia) to the spread of ethno-nationalism and the boom times for both demagogues and billionaires. The climate crisis got worse. So did inequality. Democracy teetered at the brink in America. And...egg nog anyone? Have a few drinks and settle in for a look back and what it means to all of us going forward. Happy Holidays from Deep State Radio! Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

During this special 20 minute conversation with one of the standout stars of the impeachment process, California Congressman Eric Swalwell, he parries the latest jibes from the White House against Nancy Pelosi and the Democratic Majority in the House by noting that 70 percent of the American people want a fair trial in the Senate. For this reason, he argues, Americans should not jump to the conclusion that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell will get his way and convene the kangaroo court he has promised he would deliver. Swalwell also discussed recent revelations about how Putin shaped Trump's Ukraine views and just what shape on-going investigations will have to take in 2020 to counter the on-going abuse of power by President Trump. You won't want to miss the breaking news, special edition of Deep State Radio. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In the wake of impeachment, all eyes turn to the Senate. Will delaying handing over the articles of impeachment buy the Democrats any leverage? Will buying time be enough with new bad news for Trump breaking daily--such as the report it was Putin who told him about Ukraine interference in 2016 or the magazine Christianity Today coming out for the president's removal from office? Or will the Senate sham trial come and go but these constant developments put the GOP in an ever weaker position. Many shoes are yet to drop. That's why we call it the Republican Centipede. (Well, at least that's one possible reason.) Join former US Attorney and MSNBC commentator Joyce White Vance and NYU Law and Just Security's Ryan Goodman for a do-not-miss episode on the week's biggest story. We’re extremely grateful to our sponsor, Mova Globes. MOVA Globes turn all on their own, with or without a base, in any setting with ambient lighting. No batteries are needed and no sloppy cords to detract from your enjoyment. Each globe has a transparent outer shell made from carefully selected, high-quality acrylic. This external layer remains stationary while an internal one spins using advanced magnets for torque and solar cells to power the movement. Deep State Radio listeners can get 10% off their purchase by visiting www.movaglobes.com/deepstate. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The US and the UK were the Batman and Robin of the Atlantic Alliance. Or was it the Holmes and Watson? The Lucy and Ethel? Well, whatever we were, we aren't that any more. It looks like Great Britain may be heading for a crack app and a future as only Meh Britain. And the US has been in retreat since the fiasco in Iraq. What comes next? Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law, Kori Schake of IISS, Ed Luce of the Financial Times and Joe Cirincione of the Ploughshares Fund discuss, debate and try to put recent shocking developments in perspective. Don't miss it. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What if the history books record that Donald Trump was third American president to be impeached, but the first of those to be re-elected? It's not far-fetched. In fact, many folks think it's likely. And it's what happens after that that has them scared. We discuss in a great roundtable with the Washington Post's Greg Sargent, Georgetown Law's Rosa Brooks and NYU Law School's Ryan Goodman. You won't want to miss it. MOVA Globes turn all on their own, with or without a base, in any setting with ambient lighting. No batteries are needed and no sloppy cords to detract from your enjoyment. Each globe has a transparent outer shell made from carefully selected, high-quality acrylic. This external layer remains stationary while an internal one spins using advanced magnets for torque and solar cells to power the movement. Deep State Radio listeners can get 10% off their purchase by visiting www.movaglobes.com/deepstate. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Remember national security? Remember defending the country against foreign attacks? Remember principles? Remember truth? Well, there sure are some people in our government who don't. Saudis attack Americans and the American president flacks for the Saudi Crown Prince. Russia attacks America and GOP Congressman and Senators help them by spreading Russian disinformation. An investigation confirms the FBI had every reason to investigate Trump campaign cooperation with a Russian attack on the U.S. and the president and the attorney general ignore its findings and state the opposite within minutes of its release. On this episode of DSR Kori Schake of IISS, David Sanger of the NY Times, Ed Luce of the Financial Times and Sharon Weinberger of Yahoo News, discuss this week's breaking news and what it means. Don't miss it. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On this special episode of Deep State Radio, coinciding with the official beginning of the House Judiciary Committee's Impeachment Hearings, we discuss the case against Trump in the context of history. Our guests are impeachment historian Frank Bowman of the University of Missouri and Ryan Goodman, NYU Law School professor and co-editor at "Just Security." Are the Democrats making a mistake by focusing on bribery? Did the GOP make any good points in their counter-arguments as the hearings kicked off. Where do we go from here? Can Chief Justice Roberts keep the Senate trial from being a kangaroo court or do Senate rules hamstring him and is the outcome inevitable? It's a lively, vital discussion that is not to be missed. Join us. We’re extremely grateful to our sponsor, Mova Globes. MOVA Globes turn all on their own, with or without a base, in any setting with ambient lighting. No batteries are needed and no sloppy cords to detract from your enjoyment. Each globe has a transparent outer shell made from carefully selected, high-quality acrylic. This external layer remains stationary while an internal one spins using advanced magnets for torque and solar cells to power the movement. Deep State Radio listeners can get 10% off their purchase by visiting www.movaglobes.com/deepstate. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With every flashing headline, every bright chyron claiming "breaking news" we expect our worlds are changing. In the current political atmosphere in the US those come fast and furious and leads pundits everywhere to regularly exclaim that we have reached a turning point. Well, we offer a different kind of pundit on Deep State Radio, people who speak their minds and don't march to the beat of everyone else's drummers, people like Ed Luce of the Financial Times, Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University Law Center and Max Bergmann of the Center for American Progress. And while much is happening all around us, it's not clear much will change, which is why Rosa asserts, "There are no turning points." We discuss. Which leads us to some of the biggest and most important stories in the world that are not getting enough attention. Join us. We’re extremely grateful to our sponsors, Mova Globes and Cash Call Mortgage. MOVA Globes turn all on their own, with or without a base, in any setting with ambient lighting. No batteries are needed and no sloppy cords to detract from your enjoyment. Each globe has a transparent outer shell made from carefully selected, high-quality acrylic. This external layer remains stationary while an internal one spins using advanced magnets for torque and solar cells to power the movement. Deep State Radio listeners can get 10% off their purchase by visiting www.movaglobes.com/deepstate. Cash Call Mortgage is a direct lender and can close your refi in as fast as 20 days, with no upfront deposit! If you qualify, they’ll even pay your closing costs. If you have an interest rate higher than 2.99 percent they may be able to lower your monthly mortgage payment AND get you the cash you need for the upcoming holidays, to remodel your home, or to just keep in your pocket. For a free quote and to see if you qualify, visit CashCallMortgage.com/deepstate. Impac Mortgage Corp. dba CashCall Mortgage. NMLS ID: 128231. Equal Housing Lender. Not licensed in all states including New York. Offer not available in Washington. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Psssst. Put down that drumstick. Push back from the Thanksgiving table. You don't need any more of that pumpkin pie. (And we say that as your friend.) We have something better for you to do, in keeping with the spirit of the day and much less likely to drive you crazy than your relatives. Join us for Deep State Radio's special Thanksgiving feast featuring Ed Luce of the Financial Times, Kori Schake of IISS and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law in which they offer up all that they are thankful for. Guess who said she's thankful for Garanimals matching outfits. Guess who said she was thankful for the fact that we're not living in a full-on apocalypse. Guess who said he's thankful that American Thanksgiving is late in November so it pushes off the start of "Christmas bollocks." Tune in and hear these views and also somewhat more serious perspectives on what's going right in the world. (And if you can't pushback from the table...wear earbuds and listen to us during the meal! Enjoy!) Happy Thanksgiving from Deep State Radio. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The president of the United States, always searching for lower lows, has done profound damage to the military, our system of justice and America's standing in the world by pardoning war criminals from our own military. The risk at which this puts soldiers and civilians in the future is only matched by that which it poses to our entire nation as leaders without values or standards seek to institutionalize their corruption. Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law, Kori Schake of IISS and Ed Luce of the Financial Times discuss the moral crisis that may both underpin and exceed in danger the Constitutional Crisis that is garnering most of the headlines. Don't miss it. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Adam Schiff masterfully conducted impeachment hearings that made the case that Donald Trump sought to bribe and extort the president of Ukraine, using his official office to advance personal interests. The case is a lock. Except if facts don't matter. Or if you don't care. And that's the GOP position. And guess what comes next? Distractions and circuses and Bill Barr investigations into the origins of the Mueller Report and Lindsay Graham fishing expeditions on Hunter Biden and the High Court of noted champion of fairness in government Mitch McConnell. In other words, a shitshow wrapped in a goatfuck shrouded in a partisan perversion of justice. But don't guess at what's coming next, listen to former US attorney and commentator Harry Litman and NYU Law professor Ryan Goodman as they prepare you for the worst...and why to cling to hope. Tune in. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This week promises to be a dramatic on the impeachment front. Is Gordon Sondland going to tell the truth (for the first time) or lie (again)? What about Lt. Col Vindman, Fiona Hill and the others to come? Will there be a game changer? And how will the president throw himself into the mix? More Tweets? More distractions? And speaking of distractions...is impeachment drawing our attention away from major unfolding global crises: in Hong Kong, with the Uighurs in China, in Iran, in Syria, in Latin America, with US-Israel policy? It could make your head spin if you didn't have the cool incisive wisdom of Georgetown University's Rosa Brooks and former NSC staffer and current CNN commentator Sam Vinograd to make sense of it all. And that's just what you have here on this not-to-be-missed episode of Deep State Radio. We're extremely grateful to our sponsors, Mova Globes and Better Help. MOVA Globes turn all on their own, with or without a base, in any setting with ambient lighting. No batteries are needed and no sloppy cords to detract from your enjoyment. Each globe has a transparent outer shell made from carefully selected, high-quality acrylic. This external layer remains stationary while an internal one spins using advanced magnets for torque and solar cells to power the movement. Deep State Radio listeners can get 10% off their purchase by visiting www.movaglobes.com/deepstate. Use code DEEPSTATE at checkout. Better Help provides confidential, online counseling services for depression, stress, anxiety, sleep anger and many other matters. There are more than 3,000 licensed therapists across all 50 states and the service is available worldwide. Communication can be done via chat, phone or video and is available on desktop, mobile and Android and iOS apps. Counseling services are secure, professional and scheduled at your convenience. Listeners to Deep State Radio can receive 10% off your first month by visiting Betterhelp.com/deepstate. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In Ohio today, one house of the legislature passed a law saying that if a student gets a science question wrong at school because it does not conform with his religious beliefs it can't be held against him. We have officially entered the post-fact world. That matters in the impeachment case because as the Democrats lay out a careful factual case, the GOP response is a tsunami of conspiracy theories, lies, nonsense, and distractions. And that might be all that's necessary to maintain the political balance that keeps Trump in office. Is there an antidote? Will the next rounds of hearings produce a game-changer? Ryan Goodman of NYU Law School and "Just Security" and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University Law Center discuss with host David Rothkopf. Join us for essential insights into this newest phase of the impeachment chapter...and the decline of Western Civilization. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With all eyes on the impeachment hearings this week, we take a step back to reframe the discussion about Trump shake-down of the Ukrainian government in terms of the damage that was done to U.S. national security interests and those of our allies. Congress voted money to Ukraine not as a gift, but to enable them to defend against an active invasion by Russia. Withholding that money put lives and Ukraine’s stability at risk. The case is just one illustration of a broader series of decisions by the Trump team that have put America and Americans in danger—from the green light given to the Turks to invade Syria thereby strengthening ISIS, Russia, Iran and the Syrians to seeking to cut a deal and leave Afghanistan to the Taliban, from bungling the North Korea negotiation to gift after gift after gift given to the Russians. We discuss with Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut, one of the top Democratic foreign policy leaders and thinkers in Washington. Don’t miss this special episode of DSR. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Next week public hearings on impeachment will begin. Democrats, led by Rep. Adam Schiff, will make the case that Donald Trump sought to bribe a foreign official, one of the few high crimes and misdemeanors specified in the Constitution's article on impeachment. Republicans will argue he did not and will seek to derail the hearings or attack the witnesses. At stake is the future of the rule of law in America. We discuss with Ryan Goodman of "Just Security" and NYU Law School and Kate Shaw of Cardozo Law School just how the case might best be made and what the pitfalls are likely to be. We also discuss the latest breaking news in the multiple current cases against Trump and his associates. And, we try to go inside the mind of Attorney General Bill Barr so you don't have to. Don't miss this important, insight-rich episode. Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Look around. Count the good and great political leaders in the world today. That didn't take long did it? Why not? What has happened? Where have all the leaders gone? Is that a sign of progress or decline? And where does it lead? To messy, ineffective governments--mere cattywampusness--or to something much, much worse? Kori Schake of IISS, Ed Luce of the FT and Rosa Brooks of Georgetown Law discuss and you do not want to miss their sweeping, penetrating, sobering conclusions. A must listen episode of DSR! Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/deepstateradio. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices