The Dive Down

On this week's episode, friend of the show Evart Moughon aka Aspiring Spike drops in for a reaction to the latest Banned & Restricted announcement. Then we talk about some of Evart's latest takes on Modern Control. The Break Down: July 2020 B&R in Modern & Pioneer The Dive Down: Modern Control Concepts Wind Down: Spiking Listener Questions Timestamps: 5:10 - Break Down Begins - July 2020 B&R 57:24 - Dive Down Begins - Current State of Modern Control and Evart's Izzet Deck 1:35:05 - Wind Down Begins - Listener Questions! Links from this week's episode: July 2020 B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/july-13-2020-banned-and-restricted-announcement-2020-07-13?ryujyu Aspiring Spike's Izzet Control: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3169395#paper Aspiring Spike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MoughonEvart Aspiring Spike on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown Support The Dive Down

This week the team tries to just chill (for once) and ends up with a 60min+ Break Down of the last 6 months of Modern and Pioneer, some ban speculation (before the upcoming announcement was announced), and answering listener questions. Shane brings some takes. Stanislav disagrees with Dave. Dave opens packs on air in retaliation. It's another week on The Down Down! The Break Down: 6 months of Modern + Pioneer The Dive Down: Listener questions Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 3:20 - Housekeeping 4:59 - The extended Break Down begins - Modern and Pioneer in 2020 6:35 - Modern in 2020 10:15 - The Modern up-and-comers 14:04 - Modern still hanging on 21:35 - Modern Falling Stars 28:13 - Recent Modern tournaments 45:35 - Our takes on Modern in 2020 49:15 - Pioneer in 2020 50:50 - The Pioneer up-and-comers 52:59 - Pioneer still hanging on and the falling stars 54:29 - Recent Pioneer tournaments.... sorta 57:55 - Our takes on the problems of Pioneer in 2020 1:10:58 - What would we change in Pioneer? 1:15:25 - What could be added to Pioneer? 1:21:40 - What would we ban/unban in Modern? 1:24:34 - The Wind Down begins: listener questions 1:25:34 - How do we track our performance? 1:31:30 - What promo cards do we like? 1:35:55 - What makes a deck eternal? 1:40:10 - What has been your favorite deck to play? 1:43:14 - What other formats would we like to try? 1:45:45 - What cards would we like to see printed into Modern? 1:48:58 - Closing out Links/Tournaments Referenced in this week's episode: Modern Challenge #1: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-07-05 Modern Challenge #2: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-07-06 Pioneer League #1: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-league-2020-07-02 Pioneer League #2: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-league-2020-07-06 Pioneer Prelim #1: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-preliminary-2020-07-02 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

In this bonus episode, Stan sits down with Nick Valdez, AKA Deezy MTG to talk about the art of content creation, MTG comedy, and what it's like being the #1 Magic Tik Tok account in America and maybe the world! Find Nick Twitter: https://twitter.com/nickvaldeezy Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/deezy_mtg Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@deezymtg Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

On this week's episode we take three (or more!) decks featuring Core Set 2021 cards through the Sleeve/Believe/Heave gauntlet. Did they have what it takes to get the coveted "Sleeve" rating? Following that, we discuss how new cards are impacting classic decks in Modern and Pioneer! The Dive Down: Stanislav Snoops The Dive Down, pt 2: Dave Stormwings The Dive Down, pt 3: Shane Selesnyas ... And more! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 5:58 - Sleeve Believe Heave Week Begins 7:51 - Modern Rakdos Goblins ft. Conspicuous Snoop 33:53 - Modern Izzet Prowess ft. Stormwing Entity 57:54 - Pioneer Selesnya Scales ft. Conclave Mentor 1:24:40 - Modern & Pioneer Elves ft. Llanowar Visionary & Fierce Empath 1:31:44 - Modern Grixis Delver ft. Thieves Guild Enforcer 1:33:40 - Modern & Pioneer Dredge ft. Silversmote Ghoul 1:39:07 - Modern Izzet Control ft. Teferi, Master of Time 1:41:35 - Pioneer Azorius Spirits ft. Shacklegeist & Lofty Denial 1:43:30 - Modern Izzet Phoenix ft. See the Truth 1:44:15 - Eliminate in Pioneer 1:45:35 - Pioneer Boros Cycling ft. No New Cards 1:46:47 - Pioneer Simic Wilderness Reclamation ft. Sublime Epiphany 1:47:40 - Pioneer Goblins ft. Conspicuous Snoop & Subira, Tulzidi Caravanner 1:50:17 - Closing Out Links from this week's episode: Snoopy Goblins: https://www.streamdecker.com/deck/UrwCOTAZK Izzet Prowess: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3144685#paper Selesnya Scales: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3150880#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week we dive into both Modern AND Pioneer to explore Naya Winota! Did she successfully recruit us into joining her forces, or did we remain unaffiliated? We also do a quick break down of the latest Modern Challenge to explore the variety of decks finding success, and wind down with some Patreon questions. The Break Down: Stanislav <3s Modern The Dive Down: History's Best BoP Deck? The Wind Down: A Few Questions Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:58 - Housekeeping 6:12 - The Break Down begins: A Modern Challenge 8:10 - Top 8 analysis 23:42 - Takes on the tournament 26:14 - Core 21 projections 27:58 - The Dive Down begins: Why Winota? 30:50 - What Winota? 34:35 - The payoffs 40:32 - Payoff math and payoff tactics 45:40 - Gut checks and initial takes 49:55 - The mana dorks 52:55 - The token generators 56:21 - Eldritch Evolution and the sac fodder 1:06:00 - The early game plan and the power of that game plan 1:11:25 - Creating advantage with Winota 1:19:40 - Losing advantage with Winota 1:22:09 - Comparing this to other decks in the formats 1:30:18 - What's the better version? Pioneer or Modern? 1:40:02 - The Wind Down: Patreon questions 1:48:38 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: The 6/21 Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-06-21#decklists Pioneer Winota: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3130303#paper Modern Winota: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3114576#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week we receive a short but substantial ray of sunshine about Pioneer from Shane and then talk about our our second and final batch of picks to click from Core Set 2021! The Break Down: Pioneer is Actually Good The Break Down, cont: But What About Inverter? Stan Speaks The Dive Down: Spoilers, Spoilers, Spoilers (again) Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 3:00 - Housekeeping 5:00 -The Break Down begins — Get Up on Pioneer 6:15 - Shane’s Ray of Light: Pioneer Challenges 6:30 - The first Pioneer Challenge’s Top 8 9:45 - The second Pioneer Challenge’s Top 8 12:20 - Top 8s takeaways 13:00 - Top 32s assessment 15:10 - But what about Inverter? Stan speaks. 16:00 - The bottom line on Pioneer + what we’re playing 19:25 - The Dive Down begins: more Core 21 cards 19:35 - Conspicuous Snoop 27:30 - Ghostly Pilferer + Shacklegeist 36:20 - Terror of the Peaks 42:30 - Sublime Epiphany 47:20 - Heartfire Immolator 54:05 - Stormwing Entity 1:00:10 - Conclave Mentor 1:04:05 - Llanowar Visionary + Fierce Empath 1:09:40 - Lofty Denial 1:15:55 - Miscast 1:19:55 - Liliana, Waker of the Dead 1:27:18 - Colossal Dreadmaw 1:27:45 - Frantic Inventory 1:32:33 - See the Truth 1:34:32 - Subira, Tulzidi Caravanner 1:38:36 - Angelic Ascention 1:41:55 - The Wind Down begins — Core 21 called shots Links from this episode: Pioneer Challenge, June 14th https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-challenge-2020-06-14 Pioneer Challenge, June 15th https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-challenge-2020-06-15 Jim Davis on Conspicuous Snoop https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jgp12xXMlX0 https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/jimdavis-06122020-the-scoop-on-conspicuous-snoop Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week we look at the post-Companion metas for Pioneer and Modern, then talk about our picks to click from the first batch of Core Set 2021 spoilers! The Break Down: Our Companions Leave Us Alone The Break Down, cont: Modern & Pioneer Metas The Dive Down: Spoilers, Spoilers, Spoilers Timestamps: 2:42 - Housekeeping 5:45 -The Break Down begins - the post-Companion meta 10:38 - The Pioneer meta 16:30 - Some top 8s 23:55 - Pio Companion check in and cool decks 34:37 - Pioneer meta takes 35:20 - The modern meta 39:01 - Some top8s 44:43 - Some cool decks and cool takes 50:35 - Quick take - what would we play? 52:15 - The Dive Down begins 54:20 - Teferi, Master of Time 1:10:00 - Basri Ket 1:13:43 - Chandra, Heart of Fire 1:18:29 - Elder Garagroth 1:23:26 - Village Rites 1:28:30 - Plunge 1:34:46 - Containment Priest 1:39:00 - Gadrak, the Crown-Scourge 1:42:02 - Quick hits - Azusa, Vito, Chandra's Incinerator Links from this week's episode: SCG Tour Online: https://scgtouronline.starcitygames.com/ Core Set 2021 Spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/m21?order=spoiled&as=grid Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

The hosts of The Dive Down want to make our beliefs clear: Black Lives Matter. We share the commitment of many of our listeners in educating ourselves on the unfathomable pain faced by people of color in the United States and beyond. All proceeds from this week’s episode will go to the Black Lives Matter Global Network, and several other organizations that fight for justice on behalf of oppressed people and communities. We encourage our friends and listeners to support marginalized communities when and where you can. Below are some resources that you can consider in the fight to end institutional racism, and support justice for oppressed communities all around us. http://www.maximummiddleage.com/right-now/alton-sterling-philando-castile-how-to-be-an-ally-to-black-people The Bail Project: https://bailproject.org/ Campaign Zero: https://www.joincampaignzero.org/ Unicorn Riot: https://unicornriot.ninja/ George Floyd Memorial Fund: https://www.gofundme.com/f/georgefloyd Justice for Breonna Taylor: https://www.gofundme.com/f/9v4q2-justice-for-breonna-taylor Mutual Aid: https://www.mutualaidhub.org/ Black and Brown Founders: https://blackandbrownfounders.com/ Black Feminist Project: https://www.gofundme.com/f/theblkprojek Colin Kaepernick Know Your Rights Camp: https://www.knowyourrightscamp.com/ Black Girls Code: https://www.blackgirlscode.com/ Black Voters Matter Fund: https://www.blackvotersmatterfund.org/ The National Police Accountability Project: https://www.nlg-npap.org/donate/ Equal Justice Initiative: https://eji.org/ NAACP Legal Defense and Educational Fund: https://www.naacpldf.org/ BET and United Way COVID-19 Relief Fund: https://secure.unitedway.org/j/step/bet-covid-19-donate As for the episode itself: Join us this week as we have special guest Cavedan, of Faithless Brewing fame, on as we break down the latest B&R announcement and the companion rules change, talk about our thoughts and feelings about the game and meta-game of Magic, and quiz him about brewing. Timestamps: 7:56 - Housekeeping 12:13 - The Break Down: dissecting the B&R and Companion rule change 16:36 - Examining the text from the announcement 27:58 - Will divergent game play patterns take place? 33:00 - The implications of this rule change 43:40 - The Dive Down begins - The pace and impact of change 54:35 - How we can respond to change? 1:02:32 - Things to be positive about in Magic - New ways to play 1:02:36 - News digital ways to play is a good thing. 1:09:49 - Does anyone think paper is dying? 1:15:43 - The game is fundamentally great! 1:27:42 - How change keeps the community engaged. 1:33:34 - The Brew Down 1:37:22 - Deck Advantage vs. Deck Experience 1:39:29 - Checking in on our goals. 1:44:18 - The Wind Down Begins 144:41 - Has Rogue Refinery changed the way Dan brews? 1:47:40 - How do we approach an open meta game? 1:49:49 - What makes a card brew worthy? 1:51:11 - Can a brand new deck emerge in Modern? 1:53:39 - Please brew with Nahiri, the Harbinger 1:55:29 - What’s The Dive Down’s secret ingredient? 1:59:55 - Closing Out Links from this week's episode: June 1, 2020 B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/june-1-2020-banned-and-restricted-announcement Faithless Brewing: https://faithlessbrewing.podbean.com/ Faithless Brewing on Twitter: https://twitter.com/faithlessmtg Faithless Brewing's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/faithlessbrewing Episodes of Rogue Refinery can found at: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8ZGymAvfP97qJabgqUkz4A Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

We dive into one of the most powerful and popular decks in Pioneer - Jeskai Lukka Yorion Sharknado Fires Control! Or whatever it's called! The Break Down: The latest Pioneer SQ The Dive Down: TapouT The Dive Down, continued: Agents of Snap Concessions Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:35 - Housekeeping 6:25 - The Break Down begins - the Pioneer Super Qualifier 6:50 - PSQ Top 32 Meta 16:44 - PSQ Top 8 18:17 - Interesting Decks 27:27 - The Dive Down Begins - Yorion Superfriends! 30:30 - What is tapout control? 35:40 - Fires of Invention and tapout control 43:26 - The gameplan of Yorion Superfriends 53:01 - Enabling Lukka 56:40 - The yorion advantage 1:09:50 - Closing out games 1:12:30 - The supporting elements 1:18:51 - Getting the most out of Fires 1:32:55 - Sideboarding and matchups 1:47:30 - Some thoughts on the deck 1:50:20 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: Tapout Control / PV's Playhouse / Paulo Vitor Damo Da Rosa: https://www.channelfireball.com/all-strategy/home/pvs-playhouse-control/ The Pioneer SQ: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-super-qualifier-2020-05-23 Jeskai Superfriends: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/wur-20302994-c1b8-4ede-a1ad-81e213d4b28a#paper More Superfriends: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/3047732#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week Aspiring Spike is back to help us understand the Companion metagame in Pioneer and Modern. What's good, what's not so good, and how to next-level your opponents! The Break Down: Lotus Box Modern The Dive Down: Shane Has Facts The Dive Down, pt. 2: A Love/Hate Relationship Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:55 - Housekeeping 4:37 - The Break Down sorta begins - Another B&R annoucement 10:48 - The Break Down really begins - The Team Lotus Box modern 1k 13:25 - The 1k metagame 31:52 - Companion stats and the top 8 33:30 - Tournament takeaways 36:36 - The Dive Down begins - the Companion metas 41:43 - Why has the metagame coalesced around Companions? 47:06 - Who's having fun? 51:28 - How is this metagame different than before? 58:55 - How are you getting an edge? 1:09:01 - Playing against Companions 1:29:03 - What do we think will happen to Companions? 1:34:25 - What are WOTCs long-term plans for Companions? 1:36:45 - Why might WOTC change Companions? 1:41:41 - Full-time Aspiring Spike 1:45:30 - The Sorta Wind Down - questions for Aspiring Spike 1:53:22 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: The Team Lotus Box Modern 1K: https://mtgdecks.net/Modern/lotus-box-league-season-1-modern-1k-team-lotus-box-tournament-62866 Ari Lax: How to Exploit Every Companion in Constructed: https://articles.starcitygames.com/premium/how-to-exploit-every-companion-in-constructed/ Aspiring Spike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MoughonEvart Aspiring Spike on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week we tackle a level-up prompt from a Patron of The Dive Down Nation - what does it mean to have advantage in a game of Magic? We explore what advantage can look like in different aspects of the game, how to use it in your game play, and how to play when you are ahead or behind. The Break Down: Cool decks from recent challenges The Dive Down: The Unified Theory of Magic The Dive Down, pt. 2: Debunking the Unified Theory of Magic Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 6:27 - The Break Down begins: Cool decks! 6:59 - May 11 Pioneer Challenge 20:42 - May 11 Modern Challenge 26:44 - UW Miracles ft. Counterbalance 31:52 - The Dive Down begins: Advantage in Magic 42:50 - What’s the first thing that comes to mind with advantage? 49:32 - Is there a way to talk about advantage in a single cohesive way? 57:58 - Thinking about actions instead of turns. 1:06:22 - Are some decks more sensitive to advantage? 1:09:39 - Does it all come down to deck plans? 1:12:05 - What about advantage in combo? 1:14:50 - How fragile is having an advantage in Magic? 1:23:45 - Does a format’s power level make advantage more important? 1:27:17 - Taking your plan to the next level with advantage. 1:30:14 - What to do with your knowledge of in-game advantage. 1:33:05 - How do you regain advantage? 1:41:02 - What to down you already have the advantage. 1:46:38 - How do we get from advantage to intuition? Links from this week's episode: The May 11th Pio Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-challenge-2020-05-11#decklists The May 11th Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-05-11#decklists The May 10th Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2020-05-10 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

We take three more Companions and three new decks through the S/B/H process, and let you know what we thought about them! Maybe we even used that hippo one! (We didn't.) The Break Down: The Lotus Box is a League The Dive Down: Yorion, Lurrus (Again?), and Gyruda The Wind Down: 3 Minutes About Hobbies Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:34 - Housekeeping 6:03 - The Break Down - The Team Lotus Box Pioneer Tournament top 8 11:28 - Closer looks at the new Companion decks of Pioneer 22:15- Winrate stats 24:20 - Takeaways from the tournament 31:00 - The Dive Down begins - Companion S/B/H, pt.2 32:29 - Bant Snow Control ft. Yorion 59:40 - Pioneer Boros Burn ft. Lurrus 1:21:05 - Sultai Gyruda Combo ft.... Gyruda 1:46:01 - The Wind Down - what we're doing during Social Distancing 1:49:26 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: The Team Lotus Box tournament series: https://www.lotusboxleague.com/ Bant Snow Control: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2982916#paper Boros Burn: https://mtgdecks.net/Pioneer/boros-burn-lurrus-decklist-by-piper-powell-965744 Gyruda combo: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2974794#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week The Dive Down boys test out some of the latest decks in Modern and Pioneer, all featuring Companions! Love them or hate them, they are certainly here for now. Listen and learn what we think about 3 of the newest popular Companions! The Break Down: 2 Challenging Modern Challenges The Dive Down: Our New Friends Lurrus, Obosh, and Zirda The Wind Down: Funeral For a Friend Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:26 - Housekeeping 6:03 - The Break Down: 2 Modern Challenges 15:26 - The second Modern Challenge! 26:56 - The Dive Down begins: Ever hear of Companions? 29:15 - Grixis Death's Shadow ft. Lurrus in Modern 49:33 - Some tips with and against Lurrus 57:03 - Gruul Aggro ft. Obosh in Pioneer 1:20:04 - Beating Obosh 1:23:24 - Zirda Elves in Modern 1:33:15 - Stoneforge Mystic Zirda! 1:41:08 - Our takes on Companions 1:51:41 - The Wind Down: RIP DCI LInks from this week's episode: Lurrus Shadow: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2958819#paper Obosh Gruul: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2940733#paper Zirda Elves: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2948760#paper Zirda SFM Elves: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2958129#paper Izzet Lutri: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2961717#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

We hang out with our old friend Klothys and her minions as we do a deck dive into the latest tier 1 Modern deck, Ponza! The Break Down: Challenge of the Companions The Break Down, cont: The Takes You're Looking For The Dive Down: 2 Glorybringers on Turn 3 Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:45 - Housekeeping 5:42 - The Break Down begins: a Pioneer super qualifier 6:28 - The top 8 (with maybe some Companion talk) 22:42 - The rest of the meta 25:48 - The immediate impact of Companions and our hot takes 39:25 - The Dive Down: Gruul Midrange/RG Ponza 45:10 - Our initial thoughts 48:40 - What this deck is trying to do 53:15 - The early game 58:22 - The midgame 1:00:58 - A special focus on Klothys 1:06:43 - Back to the ramp targets and midgame plays 1:13:20 - Closing out the game 1:21:01 - The Companion Variant 1:31:45 - Why is Ponza good now? 1:36:30 - Some good and kinda bad matchups 1:41:30 - Some helpful thoughts 1:45:30 - How to stop Ponza 1:48:50 - The future of Ponza in the meta 1:50:28 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: The Pioneer Super Qualifier: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-super-qualifier-2020-04-18 The “Classic” Ponza list: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2878672#paper The Companion list: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2941115#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

Dave is back and we tackle a second batch of spoilers from Ikoria, and give you our picks to click in Pioneer and Modern! Then we wind things down with The Dive Down Nation's spoiler survey. The Break Down: The latest Pioneer Super Qualifier The Dive Down: More Monsters, Fewer Problems The Wind Down: The Nation's spoiler survey Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 1:57 - Housekeeping 4:16 - The Break Down begins: the Pioneer Super Qualifier top 8 14:25 - The top 32 metagame breakdown 21:05 - The Dive Down begins: Ikoria spoilers pt 2 21:27 - Of One Mind 29:22 - Shark Typhoon 34:03 - Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy 40:44 - Slitherwisp 45:58 - Cunning Nightbonder 49:01 - Skycat Sovereign 53:20 - Blitz of the Thunder-Raptor 1:00:16 - Labyrinth Raptor 1:03:54 - Swallow Whole 1:10:01 - The Ozolith 1:14:14 - Neutralize 1:18:27 - Quick Hits! 1:27:18 - The Triomes! 1:36:27 - The Wind Down: The Nation's spoiler survey 1:47:48 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: The Pioneer Super Qualifier: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-super-qualifier-12130311#paper Ikoria spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/iko?order=set&as=grid Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

In this bonus episode, Dave and Stan got to chat with Ryan Overturf about Mono Red Prowess! Who doesn’t love an explosive Lightning Bolt deck? We chat about the deck’s evolution in Modern, how to evaluate its threats, side boarding and more! Find Ryan Overturf: Twitter: https://twitter.com/RyanOverdrive Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/ryanoverdrive Lodestone Games: https://twitter.com/LodestoneCG Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=t... and use code "thedivedown" Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

We have Evart Moughon, aka Aspiring Spike, on as a guest host to go over the first batch of Ikoria spoilers! The Break Down: Modern Showcase! The Dive Down: Behemoth Spoilers! The Wind Down: Listener Questions! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:28 - Housekeeping 3:35 - The Break Down: Modern Super Qualifier 5:30 - The top 8 14:42 - The top 32 meta 28:07 - The Dive Down begins: how we evaluate cards 32:39 - The mechanics of Ikoria 44:31 - Picks to Click: Lurrus of the Dream Den 52:09 - Heartless Act 57:01 - Vivien, Monsters' Advocate 1:04:06 - Sea-Dasher Octopus 1:07:24 - Fiend Artisan 1:11:29 - Sprite Dragon 1:16:24 - General Kudro of Drannith 1:22:01 - Rielle, the Everwise 1:25:39 - Mythos of Nethroi 1:29:27 - Some quick hits 1:35:12 - The Wind Down - questions for Aspiring Spike 1:45:21 - Where to find Aspiring Spike 1:46:29 - Closing Out Links from this week's episode: Modern Super Qualifier: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-super-qualifier-2020-04-05#decklists The Mechanics of Ikoria: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/ikoria-lair-behemoths-mechanics-2020-04-02?sd Ikoria spoilers: https://scryfall.com/sets/iko?order=set&as=grid Aspiring Spike on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike Aspiring Spike on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MoughonEvart/ Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week we each take a budget deck through the S/B/H process, and share our experiences testing out some novel options in Pioneer! The Break Down: Talking Two Pioneer Super Qualifiers The Dive Down: Ox Talk (and some other things) Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 3:40 - Housekeeping 6:54 - The Break Down begins - Pioneer Super Qualifiers 8:00 - PSQ#1 14:45 - PSQ#2 21:45 - The top 32x2 metagame 37:45 - The Dive Down begins - Why budget decks in Pioneer? 42:29 - Mono-Red Phoenix 58:04 - Mono-Red Hollow One 1:16:01 - Mono-Blue Fliers and budget UW Spirits 1:34:18 - Do budget decks have a home in Pioneer? 1:41:00 - Closing Out Links from this week's episode: Pioneer SQ #1: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-super-qualifier-2020-03-29-0 Pioneer SQ #2: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-super-qualifier-2020-03-29 Emma's budget Pioneer article: https://infinite.tcgplayer.com/article/Pioneer-Budget-Brews:-Which-Card%3F-Dis-card/f29f8aad-6742-4df0-abcb-47f2eb592e42/ Mono-Red Phoenix: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2873533#paper Mono-Blue Skies: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2873660#paper Budget Azorius Spirits: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2875538#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week we head back for another Heliod deck dive, this time in Pioneer! The Break Down: Super MTGO Qualifiers in Modern and Pioneer The Dive Down: Infinite Clicks 'n' Damage 'n' Stuff Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 6:36 - Housekeeping 8:25 - Modern Super Qualifier 25:30 - Pioneer Super Qualifier 39:15 - The Dive Down Begins: Mono-White Heliod in Pioneer 45:10 - The Strength of Heliod 47:35 - A Brief History 48:10 - The Combo 53:49 - The Beat Down 1:06:32 - The Mana 1:08:16 - The Disruption 1:19:02 - The Gideons 1:26:33 - Playing the Deck 1:33:56 - The Matchups 1:39:45 - The Sideboard 1:41:38 - Wrapping Up Links from this week's episode: Modern Super Qualifier: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-super-qualifier-2020-03-22 Pioneer Super Qualifier: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-super-qualifier-2020-03-22 Heliod deck list example: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2863625#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week's a weird one, because things are weird. We first go over the Modern and Pioneer MTGO Challenges, then head into a grab bag of listener questions! The Break Down: Business as Usual The Dive Down: Staying Healthy and Staying Positive Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 4:03 - Some positive news to start your Friday 7:22 - Housekeeping 9:49 - The Break Down - The Pioneer MTGO Challenge 25:46 - The Modern MTGO Challenge 39:50 - The Dive Down begins 42:31 - What we're covering with paper tournaments cancelled 46:03 - Some board games we like 52:13 - Magic Online, Magic Arena, computers, and you 1:04:32 - Questions lightning round begins - Bant snow control, the best deck in modern? 1:06:46 - The best pioneer deck? 1:10:20 - The tribes on the edge of glory? 1:14:20 - Where is Wilt-Leaf? 1:15:43 - Why do we like Pioneer, and what still draws us to Modern? 1:21:54 - Is Uro the new Oko? 1:26:48 - Should sets be tested online before print? 1:30:00 - Do we play Commander? 1:34:12 - Finding your deck 1:38:38 - Our favorite places 1:44:20 - Our go-to non-Magic Podcasts 1:48:28 - Closing out Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week we're doing a bit of a news show — we're covering and discussing a bunch of current topics in Modern and Pioneer including Monday, March 9th's B&R, Pioneer on Arena, and SCG Regionals in Modern. Join us as we break down and break down and break down the last week of mtg. The Break Down 1: Pioneer Masters The Break Down 2: B&R The Dive Down: SCG Regionals (Modern) Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:43 - Housekeeping 4:21 - The Break Down begins: Pioneer Masters on Arena 19:32 - BANS! 32:53 - NO BANS?? 48:21 - The Dive Down begins: SCG Regionals Weekend 50:48 - The top decks across all the top 8s 1:04:42 - The winners! 1:12:45 - The spicy decks 1:32:29 - Surprises 1:37:29 - Stan and Dave’s Regionals Experiences 1:47:28 - Closing out Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week we are looking at some of the newest (and oldest) tech and decks in Modern and Pioneer! Mono G Walkers in Pioneer, Grinding Station Breach in Modern, and... Shadow of Doubt? The Break Down: The Modern and Pioneer Showcase Challenges The Dive Down: Innovations in Modern and Pioneer Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:19 - Housekeeping 5:27 - The Break Down Begins - upcoming bans and a listener poll 13:25 - The Modern Showcase Challenge 27:05 - The Pioneer Showcase Challenge 33:20 - The Dive Down begins - New tech in Modern and Pioneer 34:24 - Mono G Walkers in Pioneer 55:08 - Shadow of Doubt in Modern 1:24:08 - Grinding Station Breach 1:46:44 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: Pioneer showcase challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-showcase-challenge-2020-03-02 Modern showcase challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-showcase-challenge-2020-03-01 Mono G Walkers: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2819606#paper Izzet Flash w/ Shadow of Doubt: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2511750#paper Grinding Station Breach: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2815217#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

The gents explore a Patreon request - Orzhov Sram Auras - in Pioneer! Who's wearing the pants in this format? Listen to find out! The Break Down: SCG Indy Pio Open The Dive Down: Some Hate, Some Hope, Some Pants The Wind Down: Hey... Whacha Doin? Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:34 - Housekeeping 3:00 - Important updates to our Patreon! 10:44 - The Break Down: SCG Indianapolis Pioneer Open 39:53 - The Dive Down Begins: Sram Auras 41:23 - Intro to Sram Auras 43:25 - The Creatures 57:41 - Auras & Blessings 1:06:52 - The Lands 1:09:03 - The Game Plan 1:15:37 - Playing Against Different Strategies in Pioneer 1:22:43 - Beating Sram Auras 1:26:25 - The Sideboard plans 1:36:06 - Our thoughts on the deck 1:46:15 - The Wind Down: What we're playing for fun 1:54:18 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: SCG Indy coverage: https://old.starcitygames.com/events/220220_indianapolis.html An example Sram Auras decklist: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2794551#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

In this bonus episode, Stan interviews a fixture of the MTGO leagues and Modern Blue Moon aficionado, Jacob Cumiskey aka ThePenSword. They talk about the ins and outs of Blue Red control decks, ranging from Thing in the Ice to Through the Breach, and gush over some of their favorite counterspells. Find Jacob Cumiskey: Twitter: https://twitter.com/CumiskeyJacob Twitch: twitch.tv/jacobcumiskey Discord: https://bit.ly/2VvbZu3 Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

We take a dive into Heliod Company Combo in Modern. How it works, what we learned, and how annoying it is to play on Magic Online! The Break Down: NRG Indianapolis The Dive Down: Infinite Life and Infinite Misclicks The Wind Down: Manners, Schmanners Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:40 - Housekeeping 5:54 - The Break Down begins - The NRG Pioneer Trial 26:12 - The NRG Modern Trial 36:40 - The Dive Down begins - Heliod Company Combo 38:40 - What the deck is trying to do 40:15 - Infinite life combos 48:08 - Infinite mana and damage 54:48 - The tutors 1:03:46 - The ramp 1:09:05 - Strategies playing the deck 1:23:08 - Using the sideboard 1:26:42 - Playing against Heliod Combo 1:30:30 - What we liked about the deck 1:33:34 - Troubles we had playing the deck 1:41:33 - The Wind Down - Magic Online Combo Etiquette 1:49:58 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: NRG Pioneer Trial: http://articles.nerdragegaming.com/decklists-archive/pioneer-nrg-series-trial-february-15-2020/ NRG Modern Trial: http://articles.nerdragegaming.com/decklists-archive/modern-nrg-series-trial-february-16-2020/ Heliod w/ Anafenza: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2784654#paper Heliod w/ Infinite Mana: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2758766#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

We're headed back to where it all started - Modern! This week's episode is an exploration of the past month+ of Modern events on Magic Online. What's rising, what's fading, and what do we think about it? The Break Down: RPT Phoenix and Shane's GP Phoenix experience The Dive Down: More Meta, More Meta, More Meta Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 3:22 - Housekeeping 5:26 - The Break Down Begins - RPT Phoenix 19:30 - Pioneer RPT win percentages 26:00 - Adapting to the combo metagame 28:25 - Shane's GP Phoenix experience 40:34 - The Dive Down Begins - The new Modern Meta 44:05 - The Modern Challenge data 54:15 - The Modern Prelims data 1:03:04 - The current decks of Modern: Titan 1:07:13 - Mono-Red Prowess 1:11:44 - Urza 1:14:02 - Tron decks 1:18:19 - Jund and Death's Shadow 1:23:00 - Izzet Control 1:25:08 - Some quick hits 1:35:20 - Our takeaways 1:42:08 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: WOTC's RPT Phoenix coverage: https://magic.gg/events/players-tour-phoenix-2020 CFB's GP Phoenix coverage: https://coverage.channelfireball.com/event/52 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

In this bonus episode, Dave interviews certified Death's Shadow Scientist Michael Rapp about playing... well Death's Shadow. They actually do a bit of a deep dive on decks of all different shadow sizes including the most popular build of the moment — 4 Color Traverse. Find Michael Rapp: Twitter: @RappaciousOne Articles: https://blog.cardkingdom.com Discord: https://discord.gg/H8kRu4R Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

We kick off this week’s show with a Break Down of the first two Pioneer Players Tours, from sister cities Brussels and Nagoya. Then we Dive Down with the latest Sleeve/Believe/Heave episode, featuring 3 spicy Pioneer decks inspired by new cards from Theros. The Wind Down: Players Tours Brussels & Nagoya The Dive Down: Sleeve/Believe/Heave ft. Theros Beyond Death Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timecodes: 5:05 - Break Down Begins 7:56 - PT Brussels Analysis 18:10 - PT Nagoya Analysis 41:55 - Dive Down Begins 43:58 - RB Midrange 59:30 - UB Inverter 1:22:44 - UG Ramp Links from this week's episode: Rakdos Midrange: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2728102#online Dimir Inverter: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2723294#paper Simic Ramp: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2723199#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

First up this week, we take a spin through what's been popping up in Pioneer and Modern since the release of Theros: Beyond Death. In our Dive Down section, each of us talks about our goals for improving our game or relationship with MtG in 2020 (#2020Goals #squadgoals #whathappensnextmightsurpriseyou). Finally, we wind down with some of Stan's tales of fantastic planeswalkers and where to find them — in London and Amsterdam, at least. The Break Down: A Trip to the Spice Station The Dive Down: Getting Better in 2020 The Wind Down: Player's Club International Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timecodes: 3:09- Break Down begins 4:36- TBD and the state of Modern 17:48 -TBD and the state of Pioneer 33:12 - Dive Down Begins 34:39 - Stan's Goals: Focusing on a specific archetype 53:43- Zak's Goals: Sequencing 1:06:39 - Shane's Goals: Mulligans 1:23:03 - Dave's Goals: Take it Easy 1:37:39 - Wind Down begins Links from this week's episode: – Modern Titan Field w/ Dryad by toondoslav https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2705484#paper Zur’s Weirding.dek by Nephtyz https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2698557#paper GW/Abzan Heliod by Spoonmanaron https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2698538#paper – Pioneer Pioneer Showcase Challenge lists https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-challenge-12076816#paper Breach Lotus Storm by Taruto1212 https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2705456#paper Abzan Rallistocrats by Uniq https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-league-2020-01-23#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week The Dive Down crew welcomes special guest Todd Anderson to join us on our first Pioneer-focused Deck Dive — Chonky Red! Listen to find out why it's not an aggro deck, how tightly you should hold your Rabblemasters, and how to really bring the glory. The Break Down: Todd and All Things Todd The Dive Down: Chonk and All Things Chonk The Wind Down: Listener Questions You can find Todd at: https://www.twitch.tv/strong_sad or https://twitter.com/strong_sad Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 3:30 - Housekeeping 4:30 - The Break Down: An interview with Todd! 33:12 - The Dive Down begins: Chonky Red! 34:52 - What is the Chonk? 36:30 - Why all those lands? 42:00 - What makes this deck popular? 45:00 - The development of the Chonk 53:30 - The construction of the Chonk - the aggro creatures 1:09:00 - The burn spells 1:12:24 - The creatures that are also burn spells! 1:22:09 - The goldfish cards 1:31:26 - The… Chandra 1:35:33 - Sideboard considerations 1:42:23 - The future of the Chonk 1:46:02 - The Wind Down: listener questions! 1:52:23 - Where to find Todd Links from this week's episode: Todd's recent Chonky Red article on SCG, including his most recent decklist: https://articles.starcitygames.com/premium/its-not-big-its-chonky-all-things-chonky-red-in-pioneer/ Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

We take another look at Theros Beyond Death, and share some of our picks to click in Pioneer and Modern! The Break Down: Irrelevant top 8s and, oh yeah, HUGE MODERN BANS The Dive Down: Theros Beyond Death Picks to Click - Again! The Wind Down: The Dive Down Nation's favorite cards from Theros Beyond Death Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 4:10 - Housekeeping 5:18 - The Break Down begins - Some outdated Top 8s 8:34 - A closer look at Golgari Yawgmoth 14:30 - 3 Modern bans! 33:20 - The Dive Down begins - Shadowspear 39:53 - Nylea, Keen Eyed 46:45 - Underworld Breach 55:06 - Gallia of the Endless Dance 1:00:26 - Shatter the Sky 1:08:45 - Klothys, God of Destiny 1:16:42 - Quick Picks begin - Thassa, Deep Dwelling 1:18:05 - Dryad of the Ilysian Grove 1:19:52 - Eidolon of Obstruction 1:22:00 - Escape Velocity 1:23:52 - Thassa’s Oracle 1:25:40 - Gravebreaker Lamia 1:27:52 - Fruit of Tizerus 1:30:34 - The Wind Down - The Picks to Click Listener Survey 1:40:22 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: Jan 13 B&R announcement: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/january-13-2020-banned-and-restricted-announcement?n MagicFest Austin coverage: https://coverage.channelfireball.com/event/47 SCG Knoxville Open coverage: https://old.starcitygames.com/events/110120_knoxville.html Golgari Yawgmoth deck tech: https://old.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/golgari_yawgmoth_with_aaron_ba.html Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

The crew takes a first look at Theros Beyond Death, and share some of their favorite, standout cards. The Break Down: MTGO Modern Championship The Dive Down: Theros Beyond Death Picks Timestamps: 1:52 - Housekeeping 3:26 - The Break Down begins 6:00 - MTGO Modern Championship 15:00 - SCG Open Columbus 16:33 - Bryan Gottlieb’s Hot New Deck 28:55 - The Dive Down Begins 29:39 - Our New Card Wishlists 38:17 - How We Evaluate Cards 42:45 - Tectonic Giant 49:12 - Escape Discussion 51:12 - Ox of Agonas 59:52 - Heliod, Sun-Crowned 1:11:12 - Polukranos, Unchained 1:20:05 - Whirlwind Denial 1:26:54 - The RB and UG Titans Links from this week's episode: https://www.reddit.com/r/ModernMagic/comments/ekmpp3/mtgo_modern_champs_top_32_decklists/ https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-champs-2020-01-05 https://twitter.com/BryanGo/status/1213962888194318336/photo/2 Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

In this installment of our monthly bonus episodes, Shane talks to the popular streamer Evart Moughon, better known as Aspiring Spike, about Pioneer, Modern, streaming, and playing with and against control decks. Find the Aspiring Spike: Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/aspiringspike Twitter: https://twitter.com/moughonevart Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

The lads see if Monastery Mentor has what it takes to succeed in Pioneer by testing 3 different decks! The Break Down: Looking over the post-Oko Pioneer Preliminaries (plus some Modern Prelims) The Dive Down: Making mistakes with Monastery Mentor The Wind Down: Holiday listener questions Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 1:53 - Housekeeping 3:20 - The Break Down begins - Pouring over the post-Oko Pioneer Prelims 13:22 - Looking more closely at Green Ramp in Pioneer 21:56 - A brief look at the Modern Prelims 29:40 - The Dive Down begins - There's a Mentor in my Monastery! 36:40 - Exploring Mentor in Pioneer 38:46 - Shane with GW Mentor Tokens 48:30 - The verdict on GW Mentor 55:22 - Dave with Mardu PyroMentor 1:09:35 - The verdict on Mardu PyroMentor 1:11:29 - Stan with Esper Mentor 1:20:16 - The verdict on Esper Mentor 1:29:52 - Lessons learned on Monastery Mentor 1:34:13 - The Wind Down - Listener questions Links from this week's episode: Shane's GW Mentor Tokens: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2587692#paper Dave's Mardu PyroMentor: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2590187#paper Stan's Esper Mentor: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2587940#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week we Dive Deeper into the Pioneer format, and bring you 5 ways to level up your play! The Break Down: The latest Pioneer bans, and WOTC's new B&R schedule The Dive Down: Level up your Pioneer thinking with 5 takeaways The Wind Down: We answer some listener questions Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 3:02 - Housekeeping 4:19 - The Break Down begins - The latest Pioneer bans 19:07 - WOTC's new B&R schedule, or lack thereof 29:18 - The Dive Down begins - Observations on Pioneer 30:18 - Non-basic lands.... can be good! 43:17 - Taking the advantage back on the draw 57:25 - The 3 toughness challenge 1:11:00 - The casting cost mindshift, 1 mana cards in Pioneer 1:19:30 - Counterspells in Pioneer 1:26:30 - The Wind Down: Listener questions on Pioneer Links from this week's episode: The 12/16/19 Pioneer bannings: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/december-16-2019-pioneer-banned-announcement The 12/16/19 B&R annoucement: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/december-16-2019-banned-and-restricted-announcement Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

The guys get together in a studio to indulge themselves with discussion of our favorite Dive Down (and Magic) moments of 2019. The Break Down: We talk about what we have been playing and enjoying in Modern and Pioneer The Dive Down: The best (and worst) of 2019 Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 1:52 - Housekeeping 3:33 - The Break Down: what we've been playing 34:15 - The Dive Down begins: our 2019 35:14 - Favorite episodes of the year 43:45 - Favorite Deck Dives of the year 47:01 - Worst and best card picks to click of the year 1:03:10 - Sleeve/Believe/Heave decks of the year 1:14:43 - Our cards of the year 1:21:16 - Our Magic experiences of the year 1:26:28 - The best new format of the year 1:30:03 - Our guests of the year 1:33:07 - Our worst takes of the year 1:39:22 - Was 2019 a good year for Magic? 1:44:34 - Signing off Links from this week's episode: Find Gal Schlesinger on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/yamakiller Listen to the Pioneer Cast, featuring Ross Merriam: https://twitter.com/CastPioneer Read Emma Partlow's content on TCG Player: https://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article_search_result.asp?author=Emma%20Partlow Find Riley Knight's content on Channel Fireball: https://www.channelfireball.com/all-strategy/author/riley-knight/ Listen to Faithless Brewing: https://faithlessbrewing.podbean.com Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

The Dive Down teams up with Faithless Brewing to bring you a deck dive into Five Color Niv-Mizzet! The Break Down: The week of Pioneer PTQs and the subsequent bans The Dive Down: The Five Color Niv-Mizzet deck dive! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 3:28 - Introducing Faithless Brewing 7:52 - Housekeeping 10:28 - The Break Down begins: Pioneer PTQs = Pioneer bans 19:28 - The Dive Down begins: Introducing 5C Niv 25:10 - What IS 5C Niv? 31:28 - The gameplan 43:24 - The cards begin: The BTL toolbox 50:00 - The mana 57:34 - The guild cards 1:16:15 - Executing the game plan 1:21:03 - The place in the meta 1:29:10 - Sideboarding with Niv 1:32:07 - Sideboarding against Niv 1:36:43 - The future of Niv 1:41:26 - Closing out Links from this week's episode: Faithless Brewing's homepage: https://faithlessbrewing.podbean.com Faithless Brewing on Twitter: https://twitter.com/faithlessmtg Faithless Brewing's Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/faithlessbrewing December 2nd Pioneer Bannings: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/december-2-2019-pioneer-banned-announcement An example 5CNM decklist: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2518206#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

In our third bonus episode, we take questions from our awesome fans and listeners about Magic the Gathering and our personal lives. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:05 - How bad does your favorite deck have to be in the metagame for you to play something else? 5:55 - How have your paper groups changed with Pioneer? Have people started leaving Modern to play Pioneer? 9:28 - Is The Dive Down going to transition its focus to Pioneer? 13:11 - What are your favorite deck archetypes? 17:35 - What were your favorite cards when you started playing, and what are your current favorite cards? 26:29 - How did we start playing Magic? 37:34 - What do you do outside of Magic for fun or when you need a break from Magic? 47:24 - What's one pre-Modern card we would add to the card pool? Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown [Support The Dive Down](patreon.com/thedivedown)

The crew tackle a level-up topic: how to overcome the challenge of picking up a new deck! The Break Down: GP Columbus The Dive Down: That Fresh Deck Smell The Dive Down, cont.: Those Fresh Deck Plans Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:16 - Housekeeping 4:45 - The Break Down begins - GP Columbus 7:07 - The day 1 meta 17:20 - The day 2 meta 21:38 - The top 8 and our thoughts on Modern at the end of 2019 31:30 - The Dive Down begins - how to learn a new deck 33:10 - What we like about picking up a new deck 40:10 - What we don’t like about picking up new decks 45:59 - How do we learn about new decks 54:58 - Thinking about a deck’s plan - the early game 1:05:38 - The mid-game 1:11:03 - The late-game 1:13:25 - What is your deck trying to do better than other decks 1:19:00 - Looking for card synergies in your deck 1:21:24 - What is your deck’s position in the meta? 1:23:44 - What’s the role of your deck? 1:31:52 - what can you lose to? 1:37:50 - closing out Links from this week's episode: CFB's MF Columbus Coverage: https://coverage.channelfireball.com/event/42 Who's The Beatdown?: https://articles.starcitygames.com/premium/whos-the-beatdown/ Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week, the Dive Down looks at some of Modern's bans throughout history, and examine how they shaped the format as it today. The Beak Down: SCG Invitational, Modern and Pioneer results The Dive Down: A history of bans and their impact on Modern The Wind Down: The cards we liked in 2019 Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 1:59 - Housekeeping 3:44 - The Break Down Begins 8:00 - Modern Discussion 24:43 - Pioneer Discussion 40:55 - The Dive Down Begins 44:39- The First B&R 50:45 - Eggs Ban 57:36 - Eye of Ugin Ban 68:37 - KCI Ban 77:08 - Putting it All Together 91:54 - The Wind Down Links from this week's episode: SCG Pioneer Day 2 Metagame: http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/4680_day_2_metagame_breakdown.html SCG Modern Day 2 Metagame: http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/4680_day_2_metagame_breakdown.html SCG Modern Decks 7-1 or Better: http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/4687_71_or_better_modern_decklists.html The First B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/explanation-september-2011-br-changes-2011-09-20-0 Eggs Ban: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/feature/banned-and-restricted-2013-04-22-0 Eye of Ugin Ban: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/banned-and-restricted-announcement-2016-04-04 KCI Ban: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/january-21-2019-banned-and-restricted-announcement Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week, the Dive Down gents explore three winning decks from the breakout new format - Pioneer! The Break Down: Veil of Summer banned, and the MTGO Modern Challenge The Dive Down: S/B/H Pioneer Edition! The Wind Down: Archival Masters Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Now get 15% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:16 - Housekeeping 3:06 - The Break Down Begins - MORE Pioneer Bans 9:33 - The Nov 10th Modern Challenge 32:38 - The Dive Down Begins - Our first Pioneer Sleeve/Believe/Heave 34:20 - Shane with Hardened Scales 54:01 - Dave with Boros Feather 1:15:51 - Stan with Izzet Ensoul Artifact 1:29:22 - The speed of Pioneer 1:32:28 - Is Pioneer Standard+ or Modern-? 1:39:32 - The Wind Down: Our card storage methods Links from this week's episode: The Nov 11 Pioneer Banning: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/november-11-2019-pioneer-banned-announcement The Nov 9 Modern Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-12014490#paper Hardened Scales: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pioneer-hardened-scales-111268#paper Boros Feather: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2463134#paper Izzet Ensoul: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2473872#paper The Ultimate Guard Arkhive: https://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Guard-Arkhive-XenoSkin-Card/dp/B01M9C7OUU Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week, The Dive Down gents do a patent-pending Dive into a fan favorite tribe - Spirits! We also discuss the first wave of Pioneer bans and the decks of the first Pioneer PTQ. Breaking News - The first Pioneer bans! The Break Down - The first Pioneer PTQ! The Dive Down - A Spooky Modern Tribe Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 10% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 04:47 - Housekeeping 05:42 - Breaking News - Pioneer Bans! 18:40 - The Break Down - The Pioneer PTQ 33:36 - The Dive Down Begins - An introduction to Modern Spirits 37:09 - A brief history of Spirits 42:00 - Cards and strategy - The disruption 59:56 - The lords 1:04:41 - The broken cards 1:15:38 - Bant vs Azorius Spirits 1:22:02 - The Spirits sideboard 1:25:29 - Playing against Spirits 1:31:40 - The future of Spirits 1:37:34 - Wrapping things up Links from this week's episode: The Nov 4 Pioneer Bannings: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/november-4-2019-pioneer-banned-announcement The first Pioneer PTQ: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/pioneer-ptq-12006968#paper Azorius Spirits: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2422839#online Bant Spirits: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-bant-spirits-52507#online Pioneer Spirits: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2474730#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week we dive deep on Magic's latest boogeyman — Oko, Thief of Crowns. Is it one of the best cards ever or just one of the goodest? We work it out in between tournament reports on SCG Atlanta and the first MTGO Pioneer Challenge. The Break Down: SCG Open Atlanta The Dive Down: Oko, Thief of Hearts The Wind Down: The First Challenge of Pioneering Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 10% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" 2:05 — Housekeeping 3:30 — The Break Down begins: SCG Open Atlanta 7:50 — Meet Simic Whirza 14:00 — Day 2 Meta 25:36 — Top 8 30:00 — Shocking math about Urza 33:17 — Oko rising 35:15 — Takeaways 39:40 — The Dive Down Begins: #OkoWatch2k19 40:53 — Why are we talking about Oko? 46:52 — How Oko impacted our games 59:58 — Common play patterns with Oko 1:06:20 — Is Oko the best planeswalker ever? 1:12:40 — So… how ya killing Oko? 1:17:10 — What happens to the best planeswalker ever? 1:24:35 — The Wind Down begins: What we’ve been playing in Pioneer 1:31:30 — The first Pioneer Challenge meta Links from this week's episode: SCG Atlanta day 2 decks: http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/Star_City_Games_Open/2019-10-26_modern_Atlanta_GA_US/1/ Team Lotus Box Simic Whirza deck tech: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIkQ_n5vCrA First MTGO Pioneer Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/pioneer-challenge-2019-10-28 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

In our second monthly bonus episode, we revisit our Modern Horizons grades to see what we missed on - and why. The Dive Down: Modern Horizons Revisited Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 10% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:26 - Introducing this month's bonus episode 3:39 - Arcum's Astrolabe 8:45 - Aria of Flame 12:12 - Wrenn and Six 16:42- Marit Lage's Slumber 20:24 - Sling-Gang Lieutenant 23:59 - Giver of Runes 27:41 - Soulherder 30:58 - Flusterstorm 35:02 - Crashing Footfalls 39:01 - Tribute Mage 41:24 - Archmage's Charm 44:59 - Planebound Accomplice 47:05 - Cabal Therapist 50:59 - Unsettled Mariner Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

We talk the SCG Regionals, the decks that got away, and, oh yeah, an ENTIRELY NEW ETERNAL FORMAT - Pioneer! The Break Down: SCG Regionals The Dive Down: Welcome to Pioneer Town The Wind Down: White Whales Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 10% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:22 - Housekeeping 3:58 - The Break Down begins - SCG Regionals top 8 data 9:53 - 9 takeaways from the SCG Regional results 33:37 - The Dive Down begins - Introducing Pioneer! 41:55 - The Pioneer ban list philosophy 48:57 - What Pioneer means for The Dive Down 56:22 - What are we excited to play? 1:06:47 - What are we nervous about? 1:12:00 - The potential impact of Pioneer on Modern 1:17:00 - What does this mean for Modern players? 1:29:29 - Our final takes on Pioneer 1:32:16 - The Wind Down - The decks that got away Links from this week's episode: A bunch of SCG Regionals lists: http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/results/start_date/2019-10-19/end_date/2019-10-19 WOTC's Pioneer announcement: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/announcing-pioneer-format-2019-10-21 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

We go over the SCG Indy (AKA the Motor City) Open, then perform our patented deep dive process on the various Urza-based decks showing up in Modern! The Break Down: The Motor City SCG Open The Dive Down: Playing Vintage in Modern The Wind Down: How the podcast has impacted our play Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 10% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 1:54 - Housekeeping 2:48 - The Break Down begins - SCG Indy's day 2 metagame 8:13 - SCG Indy top 8 20:01 - SCG Indy take-aways 23:20 - The Dive Down begins - how we're covering Urza 28:45 - The common thread - Urza! 35:24 - The artifact friends 45:09 - Paradoxical Urza 50:40 - Paradoxical Urza's payoffs 54:24 - Emry, Lurker of the Loch 58:18 - Planeswalkers 1:05:08 - Paradoxial Ascendancy 1:14:35 - Selecting between the Paradoxical versions 1:17:18 - Whirza 1:24:01 - How to beat Urza decks 1:28:30 - Our thoughts on Urza decks 1:34:45 - The Wind Down - are we better or worse? Links from this week's episode: The day 2 meta of SCG Indy: http://www.starcitygames.com/events/coverage/4664_day_2_metagame_breakdown.html The day 2 decks of SCG Indy: http://www.starcitygames.com/decks/Star_City_Games_Open/2019-10-12_modern_Indianapolis_IN_US/1/ Paradoxical Urza: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2327485#online Paradoxical Ascendancy: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2368650#paper 4C Whirza: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-four-color-whirza#online Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

The crew talk about combo decks they have tested with new Throne of Eldraine cards. The Break Down: Modern Challenge The Dive Down: "Wait, do you just win here?" The Wind Down: I Don't want No Slump Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 10% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 1:31 - Housekeeping 3:25 - The Break Down - The Modern Challenge 23:10 - The Dive Down Begins 32:16 - Goblin Combos 45:06 - Kiki Jiki Combos 1:06:26 - UR Through the Breach 1:23:31 - Grixis Control 1:30:06 - The Wind Down Begins Links from this week's episode: The Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2019-10-06 Goblin Combo: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2320042#online Grummy’s Toolbox: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2356719#online Vannifar Kiki: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2311103#paper Naya Kiki Value/Stoneblade): https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2311113#paper Temur Kiki: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2311099#paper UR Through the Breach: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2311111#paper Blue Moon: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/2327488#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

The crew do a deck dive into a personal favorite - Mono-Red Prison! The Break Down: #OkoWatch2019 The Dive Down: SSG Ritual Ritual Karn The Wind Down: Pocket Monsters Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 10% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 2:32 - Housekeeping 5:00 - The Break Down - The Modern Challenge 16:02 - The Dive Down begins - Mono-Red Prison 17:42 - What are prison decks? 21:34 - The fast mana spells 26:43 - The lock pieces 35:00 - The wishboard lock pieces 41:16 - The threats 55:13 - The planeswalkers 1:10:05 - The removal 1:13:25 - The lands 1:18:35 - The sideboard 1:21:30 - Playing against Mono-Red Prison 1:28:16 - Our thoughts on Mono-Red Prison 1:30:18 - The Wind Down - Gotta catch 'em all! Links from this week's episode: The Modern Challenge: https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/mtgo-standings/modern-challenge-2019-09-29 Mono-Red Prison decklist; https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-mono-red-prison-84623#online Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

The Dive Down: Reducing Libraries to Zero With UB Mill Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 10% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=t... and use code "thedivedown" Timestamps: 4:47 - What is Mill? 8:50 - Cards That Mill 14:20 - The Creatures 23:20 - Non-Creature Permanents 31:59 - The Planeswalkers 34:52 - Cards That Keep You Alive 51:09 - How to Mill 53:50 - The Sideboard 56:56 - How to Beat Mill 1:03:45 - Would We Mill Again? Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

The Dive Down: Our picks to click from Throne of Eldraine The Wind Down: What we plan to do with some downtime ** Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Get 10% off your first 3 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use code "thedivedown"** Timestamps: 2:10 - Housekeeping 4:38 - The Dive Down begins - What makes a card appealing for Modern? 11:44 - The mechanics of Eldraine 24:43 - The Dive Down Nation's set review survey 25:48 - Once Upon a Time 33:36 - Emry, Lurker of the Loch 45:22 - Hushbringer 53:46 - Brazen Borrower 60:18 - Grumgully the Generous 66:00 - Charming Prince 71:45 - The Royal Scions 78:48 - Claim the Firstborn 82:19 - The Wind Down - Our plans for the break in Modern tournaments 89:18 - How to find Emma Partlow Links from this week's episode: The Dive Down Nation's set analysis: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1_jHEbC0kKlcXxC3qrtMjMnT4x1VrVCX-Tn4CAqP0rs0/viewanalytics https://scryfall.com/card/celd/371/once-upon-a-time https://scryfall.com/card/celd/342/emry-lurker-of-the-loch https://scryfall.com/card/celd/339/hushbringer https://scryfall.com/card/celd/281/brazen-borrower-petty-theft https://scryfall.com/card/eld/192/grumgully-the-generous https://scryfall.com/card/celd/335/charming-prince https://scryfall.com/card/celd/272/the-royal-scions https://scryfall.com/card/eld/118/claim-the-firstborn Emma's twitter: https://twitter.com/emmmzyne Emma's twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/emmmzyne Emma's TCGPlayer articles: http://magic.tcgplayer.com/db/article_search_result.asp?author=Emma%20Partlow Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown