The Dive Down

On this week’s show, we manage to fill that awkward week between spoilers and set release by preparing for the upcoming RCQ season, which conveniently kicks off this weekend. We take a look at the Pioneer metagame going into the season, and some possible upgrades from Outlaws of Thunder Junction that could shake up the format too. Everything but the water and Clif Bars New season old decks D00m has prepared some new decks Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_K4L And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 5:42 - Barenaked Heavy Play 7:35 - This week's show/housekeeping 11:17 - The Dive Down begins: Prepping for Pioneer RCQ season 22:21 - The current Pioneer meta - Tier 1 42:07 - The Tier 2 decks 56:31 - Some Cool Decks 59:50 - d00m's hot new decks for Pioneer 1:22:01 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: Anael Yahi's Data: https://twitter.com/anaelyahi/status/1779962905099665648 Metagame Mentor: https://magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-pioneer-decks-to-defeat-at-april-2024-rcqs MTGDecks.net Pioneer Winrates: https://mtgdecks.net/Pioneer/winrates D00m's Dimir Proft: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322644#paper D00m's Slickshot Heroic: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322647#paper D00m's Azorius Geralf: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322650#paper D00m's MonoB Bronco: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322652#paper D00m's Bant Plot: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6322653#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

We said we'd never lie to you, but maybe... maybe we'd forget that there were another 30 mythics left to talk about in this set. So we did it for you — more cards! This week Dave, Devon, and Shane talk about what might happen with some of these weird, weird cards from The Big Score. Do we tell a certain Jitte to stay lost? What happens when we break out the Synthesizer? What card that Devon loves left Dave and Shane quaking in their boots? After we discuss The Big Score, we take a quick trip through Pure Modern 5 — the most recent installment of Devon's "What if there was a simpler Modern?" tournaments. • Congrats, Tanner • The Spoils of the Vault • Pure Modern: Stormwing is Back, Baby Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_K4L And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 1:40 - Heavy Play is not impacted by the eclipse 5:52 - This week's show/housekeeping 9:03 - The Dive Down begins: The Big Score 12:20 - Lost Jitte 19:08 - Worldwalker Helm 23:00 - Simulacrum Synthesizer 27:01 - Bristlebud Farmer 30:22 - Torpor Orb 32:26 - Pest Control 36:26 - Generous Plunderer 39:13 - Sandstorm Salvager 41:25 - Harvester of Misery 44:20 - Grand Abolisher 46:35 - Legion Extruder 48:42 - Memory Vessel 49:58 - Esoteric Duplicator 53:24 - Greed's Gambit 57:16 - Sword of Wealth and Power 59:55 - Loot, the Key to Everything 1:02:52 - d00mwake's 5th Pure Modern tournament 1:17:08 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: d00m's Pure Modern 5 Meta: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/70042 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

Our friends from across the Multiverse have flooded the desert sands of Thunder Junction, and brought a host of exciting new spoiler cards with them. We recap some of our favorite cards and other notable arrivals in Magic's 100th set. Are all the Spree cards great or merely good? Is the emphasis on Crime cards the latest symptom of Magic's moral decline? Have we lost the Plot or simply found a new way to cast spells for free? D00mwake likes Duelist of the Mind. Dave likes Requisition Raid. Shane likes Magda, the Hoardmaster. Stan likes Calamity, Galloping Inferno. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_K4L And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 6:39 - Heavy Play is not an April Fool's joke 8:54 - Housekeeping/this week's episode 11:15 - The mechanics of Outlaws of Thunder Junction 20:07 - Aven Interrupter 23:58 - Final Showdown 27:05 - Fortune, Loyal Steed 29:07 - High Noon 31:30 - Claim Jumper 33:15 - Requisition Raid/Bovine Intervention 37:16 - Getaway Glamour 37:17 - Oltec Matterweaver 41:15 - Archmages Newt 44:28 - Duelist of the Mind 48:24 - Jace, Reawakened 51:22 - Geralf, the Fleshwright 53:35 - The Key to the Vault 56:49 - Three Steps Ahead 59:10 - Kaervek, the Punisher 1:10:59 - Hollow Murauder 1:04:30 - Lively Dirge 1:07:06 - Insatiable Avarice 1:09:09 - Pitiless Carnage 1:10:40 - Magda, the Hordemaster 1:13:22 - Magebane Lizard/Reckless Lackey 1:14:40 - Slickshot Showoff 1:19:01 - Calamity, Galloping Inferno 1:20:40 - Aloe Alchemist/Bristly Bill, Spine Sower 1:22:40 - Collosal Rattlewurm 1:24:14 - Smuggler's Surprise 1:27:10 - Railway Brawler 1:29:05 - Ornery Tumblewagg/Trash the Town 1:32:40 - Akul the Unrepentant 1:34:30 - Assimilation Aegis 1:36:40 - Doc Aurlock, Grizzled Genius/Ghired, Mirror of the Wilds/Intimidation Campaign 1:38:04 - Oko, the Ringleader/Obeka, Splitter of Seconds 1:40:36 - Satoru, the Infiltrator 1:44:35 - Pillage the Bog 1:46:54 - Lavaspur Boots 1:50:08 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: https://scryfall.com/sets/otj?order=set&as=grid Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

Results are in from LMS Prague and we break down the top decks at the 265 player event. Then chat about our experiences playing a couple versions of Domain Zoo. And D00mwake shares the secret to winning an RCQ. The Break Down: Legacy European Tour Master Series Prague, Grand Open Qualifier (Modern) The Dive Down: Takeaways - A Domain Zoo Experience Discussion The Wind Down: D00mwake won an RCQ! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_K4L And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 5:35 - Heavy Plan is not from Khans era 7:33 - This week's episode/housekeeping 11:35 - The Break Down begins: The Legacy European Tour Prague Modern Open! 23:18 - The top 8 results 30:27 - Winrates and matchups 48:20 - How are we feeling about Modern? 53:04 - The Dive Down begins: It's all happening at the zoo 1:17:05 - Devon won another RCQ! 1:29:51 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/59235 https://twitter.com/MTGdecks/status/1772028283762192725 https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6272273#paper https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6273416#paper https://twitter.com/d00mwake/status/1771203670236909886 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This weekend was the annual Hunter Burton Memorial Open, the first large paper Modern tournament since the recent B&R. We dive into the tournament results to see where the format is headed, try out some of the latest versions of Rhinos to see if Cascade still works, and enjoy a little Goryo's Vengeance as a treat. Thanks to smarter people than us, we've reviewed a ton of Modern results and win percentages to get a sense for who's beating who in the latest Modern format. We review some of the expected strategies to rise in popularity in a post-Rhino Modern tournament, admire some possible up and comers to the metagame, and pontificate about where Modern can go from here. Then Stan and Shane fire up some Rhino decks to see if the Cascade hits keep coming without Violent Outburst, and Stan finally wraps up his Goryo's Vengeance league and experiences some Scam flashbacks. The Break Down: Hunter Burton Memorial Open results to chew on. The Dive Down: Rainbow Rhino and Goryo's Vengeance decks to stew on. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_K4L And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 4:20 - Heavy Play gets a thumbs up 6:53 - This week's episode/housekeeping 10:16 - The Break Down begins: The HBMO Modern Event 53:34 - Stan plays Goryo's Vengeance 1:06:05 - Stan and Shane played the new Rainbow Rhinos 1:32:39 - Wrapping up Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

The mad lads did it, they banned our beloved Violent Outburst in Modern. We're not particularly happy about the outcome or its communication, but we discuss what it means for Cascade decks and the format moving forward. In today's episode, we delve into the somewhat surprising B&R announcement and discuss the survivability of Cascade strategies moving forward. We assess some potential winners and losers from the news, including some decks to watch out for in the coming weeks, including Yawgmoth, Titan, Reaninator, Creativity, and more. We also express our concerns about the ban announcement lacking detailed data, as we had hoped for more transparent communication from Wizards of the Coast. The absence of bans in Pioneer also caught our attention, and we critiqued the announcement for its perceived shortcomings, urging for greater detail and insight in future communications. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_P6W And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 2:15 - Heavy Play will not be banned 4:52 - This week's episode/housekeeping 7:32 - The Dive Down begins: Violent Outburst is banned! 32:33 - How we feel about the actual ban 45:00 - Where does Rhinos go? 50:50 - Where does Modern go? 1:02:25 - What about Pioneer? 1:13:45 - Yes, we talked about Balatro again 1:29:47 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: March 11 B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/march-11-2024-banned-and-restricted-announcement Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

A discourse is brewing on this week's Dive Down, as the rhino boyz reflect on some of the issues Modern players seem to have with the current format and metagame. Can we close Pandora's box of free spells and triomes? Will MH3 save us? Or could WOTC do something more... drastic..? The Break Down: Devon asked, you answered. The Dive Down: Eight Hateful Hypotheses The Wind Down: Love that joker... for about 20 minutes. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_P6W And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 4:30 - Heavy Play: easy to open 8:09 - This week's episode/housekeeping 11:50 - The Dive Down begins: Modern's Hate Hypotheses 21:25 - Grief. 27:55 - Cascade. 39:15 - Free spells. 49:35 - The mana. 58:37 - The One Ring/Bowmasters. 1:07:51 - Modern is stale. 1:12:16 - Did a perfect Modern ever exist? 1:19:50 - The Wind Down: It's Balatro time! 1:38:18 - Wrapping up Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

Last weekend was MagicCon Chicago — and wow are we tired, friends. Join the Rhino Boyz as we recap the main event, side events, and small events that made up what was a great weekend in the Motor City! Shane give a metagame breakdown of the PT. Stan takes a shot at the cup. D00m plays the hero. Dave falls in love with a bunch of real Jokers. • They Broke It • Rats, Assassins, Villians, and Free Spells • We Tried It Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_3YO And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:38 - Heavy Play is not on a PIP 6:18 - This week's show/housekeeping 10:42 - The Break Down begins: MagicCon Chicago! 14:11 - A Pro Tour MKM breakdown 39:08 - The PT Top 8 41:46 - Final thoughts on the PT 45:04 - 4 new sets from the MC Preview Panel 1:10:53 - An interview with Blake Rasmussen and Roy Graham from WOTC 1:32:30 - The Dive Down begins: Rakdos Vampires takes a bite out of Pioneer 1:52:48 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: PT Meta on Melee: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/52679 Frank Karsten's WR%s: https://twitter.com/karsten_frank/status/1761570878737748061/photo/1 Preview card reference: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/future-sets-spoilers-february-23-modern-horizons-3-thunder-junction-bloomburrow-and-assassin-s-creed Seth Manfield's/CFB's RB Vampires Decklist: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6211825#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

The MagicCon is finally upon us. We prepare for a weekend full of side events by looking at the most exciting innovations for our favorite formats, and figure out how to win the most tickets for the coveted prize wall. We take a look at Modern and Standard results since the release of Murders, plus whatever Pioneer results we can get our hands on, to share our favorite decks in each format and what strategies appear to be performing best too. We also stop by the first NRG Series Open of the year in beauitiful Elmhurst, Illinois to chat with Dom Harvey, Misplaced Ginger, and Christian Calcano! Don't forget, sign up for the officicial Dive Down afterparty at thedivedown.com/chicago! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_3YO And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:56 - Heavy Play: not complicated 6:04 - This week's show/housekeeping 12:37 - The Break Down begins: The NRG Chicago Pioneer $10k 19:05 - An interview with Derek Pite (aka Misplaced Ginger) 27:27 - Back to NRG Chicago 39:38 - The NRG Chicago Standard $5k 42:50 - The Dive Down begins: Planning for Magiccon Chicago! 48:58 - What we're playing in Modern 1:07:55 - What we're playing in Pioneer 1:18:58 - An interview with Dom Harvey 1:29:21 - Some Standard thoughts 1:42:04 - An interview with Christian Calcano 1:48:10 - Some final stuff about Magiccon Chicago 1:50:11 - Wrapping up Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

Join us this week as we discuss how Modern has gone rainbow. The full compliment of Rhino Boys — Dave, Devon, Shane, and Stan — are together for the first time this year. We're talking about Modern in upheaval and the results from all the RCs this last weekend. • thedivedown.com/chicago • Rhino Supremacy, Part XXIV • Lifelink, Hexproof, Trample, First Strike, Vigilance Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_3YO And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 0:01 - A big announcement! 5:05 - Heavy mise en Play-ce 7:56 - This week's episode/housekeeping 14:51 - The Dive Down: Modern Upheaval, and not the card 17:40 - The Dallas RC meta and Leyline Rhinos 25:30 - Dallas winrates and conversion rates 38:15 - The Dallas top 8 and other Modern events 44:29 - A giant winrate matrix 56:10 - Up-and-coming decks from the past weekend 1:08:41 - Dave played Leyline Zoo 1:16:02 - Stan played Leyline Rhinos 1:23:40 - Devon played Goryo's Vengeance Asmo stuff 1:30:02 - Some brief Pioneer NRG prep chat 1:33:05 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: Denver RC listsing: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/54549 @AzoriusI's data: https://twitter.com/AzoriusI/status/1757036428674891821?t=eUvsssljH2AZZ0U3SmOWpA&s=19 Typical Rainbow Rhinos List (from Mack Endress): https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/363672 Modern Matrix from MtgDecks.net: https://mtgdecks.net/Modern/winrates/range:custom_2024-02-09_2024-02-12 d00mwake's Goryo's Vengeance list: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/6173859#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

RC Denver is coming up. MagicCon Chicago is coming up. As a bit of an amuse bouche for these giant upcoming events, this week Dave and Shane take a look at SCGCON Hartford — Modern $10ks, Pioneer Events — and talk about MKM cards that we've seen pop up across our formats. Leyline? Surveil? More? • SCGCON Hartford's Modern $10ks • Surveiling the Landscape • Leyline is where? Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_3YO And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:01 - Heavy Play is out of sight 4:50 - This week's episode/housekeeping 12:17 - SCG Hartford Modern 10k(s) check-in 23:15 - Saturday's Top 8 and general performance chat 36:28 - Sunday's Modern 10k 49:50 - New cards in Hartford's Pioneer events 53:55 - New decks from our favorite streamers 1:11:49 - Wrapping up Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week Shane returns, and in celebration we take a quick trip to Ghent to recap the Modern RC this week. What's going on in Modern as we make our way towards the next RC in Denver? But first (well, second, actually) — the last cards we like from MKM, and our top 5 lists! • The More Modern Stays the Same, the More it Changes • Rhino Supremacy, Part XVI • More Orrible Murder Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_3YO And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:54 - We can talk about Heavy Play 5:34 - This week's show/housekeeping 12:07 - The Break Down: Legacy European Championship Ghent 16:27 - Dave's Cool Decks, Inc diversion 22:52 - Deck performances 27:37 - The top 8 31:00 - Takes and takeaways 37:37 - The Dive Down: Week 2 of Murders at Markov Manor spoilers! 40:44 - Reenact the Crime 46:16 - Insidious Roots 50:49 - Break Out 57:55 - Gleaming Geardrake 57:56 - Tomik, Wielder of Law 1:01:21 - Pick Your Poison 1:05:16 - Assemble the Players 1:17:15 - Case of the Gorgon's Kiss 1:10:01 - Forensic Researcher 1:15:16 - Case of the Uneaten Feast 1:19:45 - Our Top 5 lists 1:39:26 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: Ghent matchup grids: https://mtgdecks.net/Modern/legacy-european-championship-ghent-legacy-european-tour-tournament-150715/winrates Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

It's a simple show this week... or is it? Dave and Devon dive into the previews to date of the latest set — Murders at Karlov Manor! Tune in as we discuss Disguises, Cloaks, and whether the Mole God lives up to the hype (spoiler: it does). Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_3YO And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 1:10 — Getting Heavy 4:00 — Tell Us If You’re Coming to Chicago! 4:45 — Spoiler: We’re Talking About Cards! 5:45 — Housekeeping 7:00 — It’s Cards!! 8:00 — It’s Rules!! 9:18 — Disguise 13:11 — Cloak 16:49 — Investigate 18:28 — Collect Evidence 23:01 — Suspect 23:17 — Cases 27:56 — Split Cards 30:40 — Just Random Cards 30:55 — Lightning Helix 33:24 — No More Lies 36:15 — Warleader’s Call 39:41 — Proft’s Eidetic Memory 43:25 — Krenko, Baron of Tin Street & Crime Novelist 47:37 — Fugitive Codebreaker 51:10 — Treacherous Greed 55:20 — Intrude on the Mind 58:52 — Massacre Girl, Known Killer 1:02:25 — Doorkeeper Thrull 1:05:53 — Leyline of the Guildpact 1:10:34 — Delney, Streetwise Lookout 1:13:28 — Anzrag the Quake-Mole 1:17:28 — Archdruid’s Charm 1:21:58 — Urgent Necropsy 1:25:36 — Kylox’s Voltstrider 1:30:08 — Sharp-Eyed Rookie 1:32:32 — Long Goodbye 1:33:04 — Surveil Lands 1:36:00 — One More Thing Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

Join Shane and Devon as they embark on an epic journey through the realm of... Standard. Yes, Standard. With RCQ season in full swing, it's time to look over all the decks you need to know to be prepared. The boys look at the recent history of standard, how WOTC is trying to revitalize it, and provide insight on basically all the decks in the format. With everything from hyper-aggro to over-the-top ramp, this format has something for everyone! The Dive Down: It's Standard. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_3YO And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 4:22 - Heavy Play: not bad 5:45 - This week's show/housekeeping 10:24 - Standard then and now 22:09 - So what IS Standard? 27:28 - What does Standard look like right now? 28:11 - Domain Ramp 32:19 - Esper Midrange 34:32 - Rakdos Discover 37:54 - Golgari Midrange 43:00 - Azorius Soldiers/Flash 48:14 - Mono-Red Aggro 54:57 - Azorius Tokens 1:00:26 - The other midrange decks 1:10:06 - Big Rakdos 1:12:45 - Azorius Craft 1:16:30 - Bant Toxic 1:21:34 - Azorius Tempo 1:24:19 - How to approach Standard in the RCQ season 1:33:54 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: Frank's Metagame Mentor article: https://magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-everything-you-need-to-win-your-early-2024-standard-rcq Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

It's time for The Dive Down to get back to work! We're fully into 2024 and this week Shane and Dave are diving deep into what Modern is right now. Tune in as we discuss SCG Cincinnati's 20K and 10K along with the most recent MTGO Showcase Challenge and try to answer some of the formats biggest questions. How dare Scam still exist? How did Rhinos get to be 14% of the meta at the 20K? Is Yawgmoth the new top moth? All this and more on this week's Dive Down. • Queen City Callbacks • Not Dead After All After All • Sometimes UW Control Can Be Good Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2024 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN_3YO And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:57 - A Heavy Play surprise 8:27 - Housekeeping/this week's episode 12:51 - The Dive Down begins: What is Modern in 2024? 15:59 - The SCG Cincinnati $20K meta and performance 42:34 - The MTGO Showcase Challenge meta and performance 56:35 - So what's going on in Modern right now? 1:11:55 - The NRG Championship results 1:16:43 - A tiny Wind Down 1:20:27 - Wrapping up Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week's episode is not about about Modern or Pioneer! Instead, we fire off our free passes to MTGO's Vintage Cube and figure out how D00mwake became one of the format's trophy leaders. We also dust off our Arena accounts to play a little Timeless. Are we picking up new formats for the show? Only one way to find out! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWNTWENTYTHREE for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 2:18 - Heavy Play is also wonderful 4:24 - This week's episode/housekeeping 8:28 - It's Vintage Cube time! 54:57 - The best cards in Vintage Cube 1:14:00 - Beaudelaire is back, baby 1:17:00 - Time for... Timeless 1:39:44 - Wrapping up Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

Izzet Phoenix is back on the menu so we're diving back in for the first time in 5 years! Stan is joined by CCR from MTG Grindcast, along with the Pioneer trophy leader & Izzet Phoenix aficionado OafMcNamara to break down the deck in all its controlling glory. We chat in great detail about how to evaluate the cantrips and removal spells in a turbo xerox deck, how it pairs up against other top decks in the metagame, how to maximize its various flex slots, the benefits of Izzet over Grixis, and so much more. We have a couple true Phoenix masters on this episode so the level ups are imminent. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWNTWENTYTHREE for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:42 - Heavy Phoenix Play 5:15 - Housekeeping/This week's show 7:35 - This isn't your Modern's Phoenix 12:43 - Phoenix's gameplan and deck construction 37:49 - Cantrips. Just cantrips. 53:54 - The removal 1:00:52 - The flex cards 1:13:21 - Matchups 1:27:50 - Grixis Phoenix?? 1:34:10 - Fable and other considerations 1:41:18 - Wrapping up and where to find our guests Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

With all the discourse swirling around Dreamhack Atlanta, the Dive Down boys decide to avoid it at all costs and just look at the cold hard facts - which decks did well, which decks did poorly, what did the matchup spreads look like, and where does Pioneer go from here. We also wrap up the show with an extended wind down recapping some of our favorite moments from Magic, podcasting, and pop culture. Finally, at long last, UW control is good (in Pioneer). Thanks to Temporary Lockdown lining up just right against the latest builds of Rakdos Midrange and the up and coming Amalia combo, along with a ton of other counterspells and removal cards, control finally found a weekend to dominate the metagame. And in case you were wondering what kind of movies, music, TV, podcasts, and video games we've been consuming all year, we take a chance to finally recap our favorites from the year as well. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWNTWENTYTHREE for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 2:55 - The Heavy Play fence 4:34 - This week's episode/housekeeping 9:59 - The Break Down: The Atlanta Pioneer RC 37:21 - Takeaways from the weekend 52:14 - What's up with this meta? 1:00:20 - Stan Smells Better 1:02:13 - The Wind Down: Your hosts are talking 1:03:08 - Our favorite Magic things this year 1:07:30 - Best new host of the year 1:09:16 - Our favorite episodes of the year 1:13:59 - Stan's favorite thing 1:14:35 - The card(s) of the year 1:16:51 - The card(s) we would revoke from existence 1:19:30 - Magic is good 1:21:25 - Music we liked this year 1:25:32 - Movies we liked this year 1:28:38 - TV we liked this year 1:33:30 - Podcasts we liked this year 1:40:41 - Video games we liked this year 1:46:42 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/28009 https://twitter.com/karsten_frank/status/1736897130722140214/photo/2 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

RC Atlanta is looming, so this week the team is diving into Pioneer. Dave, Devon, and Shane take a spin through what's happened to the format since the bans early last week. Is Copter rising? Is Mono Green Devotion dead? Where's Phoenix right now? How did Shane like the new hotness Amalia Combo — a deck that Dave hated a couple of weeks ago? Turn in to find out. Don't worry if Pioneer isn't your thing, we still spend some time on Modern going through the results of the Legacy European Tour: Barcelona Modern main event. Lots of interesting results to consider after this 700+ person tournament. Scam Still Won... Big? Infinite Loops No One Understands The Most Popular Deck Doesn't Have Copter Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWNTWENTYTHREE for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 2:01 - Have you heard the Heavy word? 4:19 - This week's show/housekeeping/patreon highlight 10:04 - The Break Down begins: The Legacy European Tour Barcelona overall meta 23:37 - The Top 64 meta and conversion rates 27:24 - The Top 8 35:10 - We travel to Arrakis 38:04 - The Dive Down begins: prepping for RC Atlanta 39:24 - The effects of Pioneer's recent bans 57:20 - Lost Caverns of Ixalan's additions (including Amalia combo) 1:13:57 - What will happen at the RC, and what d00m is (probably) playing 1:24:15 - Predicting the RC meta 1:30:02 - Wrapping up Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

The mad lads did it! Fury... banned. Up the Beanstalk... banned. Karn, the Great Creator... banned. Geological Appraiser... banned. Smuggler's Copter... once banned, now unbanned. We react to the bombshell B&R, consider which decks win and lose from the announcement, and think about what looks good for RC Atlanta. Our hands shook with anticipation as we vigorously refreshed the B&R URL on Monday morning. Wizards promised bans in Modern & Pioneer, and they practically told us they were banning Fury, Beans, Karn, and Appraiser, but maybe it was an elaborate bit? Turns out, not a bit! And what's this, Smuggler's Copter finally unbanned? There's so much to talk about, and so soon before the Pioneer RC in Atlanta. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWNTWENTYTHREE for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:20 - Hold your non-banned cards with Heavy Play 6:28 - This week's episode/housekeeping 9:31 - The Break Down begins: We got some bans 13:48 - The B&R schedule moving forward 18:51 - Pioneer bans overall 22:46 - Karn, the Great Creator banned 31:10 - Geological Appraiser banned 33:49 - Smuggler's Copter UNBANNED! 46:56 - Pioneer winners and losers 51:10 - Testing those new scents 54:35 - The Break Down continues: Fury banned in Modern 1:07:56 - Up the Beanstalk banned 1:13:45 - Modern winners and losers 1:26:53 - Where do we go from here? 1:30:39 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/december-4-2023-banned-and-restricted-announcement Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

On this week's show, The Dive Down breaks down results from a variety of Pioneer RCs that took place in Asia, Latin America, and Canada. Our eyes pop out at some numbers from the new Discover decks, and we check-in on the final NRG Series open of the year. Three regional championships in one weekend, AND an NRG Series open? Yes please! Shane, Devon, and Stan chat about results from the latest batch of high level Pioneer play, and focus on the best and worst performing decks internationally. Discover had some... frightning results. But Phoenix has once again rose from the ashes. Who knew instant speed removal can be good? Then we wrap up with a check-in on the Modern Open results from NRG Madison. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 7:02 - Devon talks Heavy Play 8:12 - This week's show 10:56 - The Break Down begins - Pioneer Regional Championships! 13:56 - The Japan/Korea RC 34:03 - The South America RC 41:16 - Some combined data 44:05 - The Canada RC 51:12 - What do we know about Pioneer now? 1:03:04 - Stan speaks 1:05:00 - The NRG Madison Modern 10k 1:24:33 - The NRG leaderboard update 1:28:00 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: Japan & Korea Regional Championship https://mtgmeta.io/tournaments/17934 https://melee.gg/tournament/view/15433 South America RC https://mtgmeta.io/tournaments/17939 https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/39553 Canada RC https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/17096 NRG Madison Modern Open: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/15654 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

On this week's show, the ha ha boys take some new cards from Lost Caverns of Ixalan for a spin in Modern and Pioneer. They cast Tishana's Tidebinder, Geological Appraiser, Warden of the Inner Sky, and more! Holy moly, LCI has already made quite the splash! In its first week live, it's already led to a huge disruption to Pioneer, along with some interesting upgrades for Modern. Stan and Dave chat about Pioneer Merfolk, playing Modern Rhinos with Tidebinder, and then Devon jumps in to talk about Boros Convoke, Temur Discover, and a few more brews that might surprise you. Check out our Black Friday deal at thedivedown.com/store and use promo code horndogs for 15% off your order! The Dive Down: Stan Loves Merfolk The Dive Down cont.: Dave of the Inner Sky The Dive Down cont. cont.: Devon Discovers Something Broken Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:12 - Capitalism time 5:50 - This week's show/housekeeping 9:31 - The Dive Down begins: New cards, new decks! 11:51 - Tishana's Tidebinder in Modern Rhinos 23:14 - A few other Modern tidbits 25:36 - Amalia combo in Pioneer 33:41 - Black Friday deals! 36:28 - Boros Convoke with Warden of the Inner Sky 46:21 - Simic Merfolk with lots of new cards 57:52 - Hollow One is back? 1:07:36 - Temur Discover 1:23:18 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: Amalia/Wildgrowth Walker: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/pioneer-abzan-amalia-combo#paper Pascal Maynard’s Boros Legends https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5982814#paper Boros Convoke with Warden of the Inner Sky https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5984424#paper Pioneer Simic Merfolk: https://twitter.com/claudiohmtg/status/1724852503836045703 Modern Rhinos ft. Tidebinder: https://twitter.com/DackFayden07/status/1725947372348604759 Pioneer Discover: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5993199#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week on The Dive Down we get back to basics. Stan and Shane focus on the three things The Dive Down does best: a) break down a large Modern tournament (SCG Pittsburgh), 2) give some takes about Rhinos, and iii) have a heartfelt conversation about MTG Universes Beyond. Mono White Hammer, Halo Forager, Sheoldred, and Captain America – what do they have in common? They're all here for this week's episode of The Dive Down. The Break Down: SCG Pittsburgh The Dive Down: New Cards, Old Rhinos The Wind Down: Beyond Universes Beyond Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 6:43 - Stan gets Heavy 9:57 - This week's show/housekeeping 13:20 - The Break Down: The SCGCON Pittsburgh Modern $10k 36:15 - The Dive Down: Is Sheoldred Rhinos good? 43:18 - Sheoldred 57:33 - Halo Forager 1:00:36 - Commandeer 1:06:43 - Subtlety 1:18:29 - Brotherhood's End/Obsidian Charmaw 1:24:51 - The Wind Down: Our takes on Marvel in Magic 1:37:23 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

It's time for the final spoiler episode of 2023! We think? We go through the full spoiler from The Lost Caverns of Ixalan and talk about the cards we think will have the most impact... that we haven't already spoken about. What lands from this lands set do we actually think could be worth trying? Did they finally fix Smuggler's Copter? How Bitter will our Triumphs be? Have we Lost any Corpses? Did we Cleave any Souls? Not really — but tune in to find out what we think of some of these cards! • What Devon Would Do with One Billion Dollars • Shane Has a Favorite Doors Song • Dave Has Lubed the Headset Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 4:30 - Heavy Play 6:03 - This week's show & housekeeping 8:55 - The Dive Down begins: MORE CARDS 10:52 - Volatile Fault 13:57 - Echoing Deeps 16:31 - Restless Anchorage 18:25 - Dusk Rose Reliquary 22:02 - Stalactite Stalker 24:45 - Goblin Tomb Raider 27:33 - Dreadmaw's Ire 29:41 - Tarrian's Soulcleaver 33:10 - Subterranean Schooner 33:57 - Dauntless Dismantler 38:55 - Bitter Triumph 41:24 - Fanatical Offering/Fungal Fortitude 43:25 - Zoyowa's Justice 45:47 - Sentinel of the Nameless City 48:39 - Corpses of the Lost 52:35 - Bloodletter of Aclazotz 58:49 - Ojer Axonil, Deepest Might 1:02:23 - Our favorite cards 1:11:54 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

For the 375th time this year, we descend into the madness of trying to work out what cards from a new set will make an impact in our formats. It's Lost Caverns of Ixalan time! Spelunk with us as Dave, Shane, and Devon debate the great questions of this set. Which removal card is better — Get Lost or Molten Collapse? Which combo piece unlocks more combinations — The Millennium Calendar or Bartolome del Presidio? Which Merfolk is the most... gilly (?) — Tishana's Tidebender or Cenote Scout? You decide! But listen first before... you decide! • Is this Removal Good? • Are These Combo Cards Good? • The Splendid Descended Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:54 - Heavy Play! 5:57 - This week's show/housekeeping 7:48 - The Break Down begins: Metagame Mentor and the state of Modern 17:12 - The standout decks right now 24:23 - The Dive Down begins: The Lost Caves of Ixalan! 27:18 - Get Lost 32:17 - Molten Collapse 37:03 - Inti, Seneschal of the Sun 41:26 - The Ancient One 46:33 - Souls of the Lost 49:53 - Spelunking 53:14 - Restless Vents 55:45 - Enterprising Scallywag 58:42 - Glimpse the Core 1:02:24 - Helping Hand 1:04:42 - Tishana's Tidebinder 1:09:11 - Cenote Scout/Nicanzil, Current Conductor 1:13:07 - The Millenium Calendar 1:17:14 - Market Gnome 1:18:51 - Amalia Benavides Aguirre 1:20:39 - Bartolome del Presidio 1:24:03 - Squirming Emergence 1:29:37 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: Dr. Frank's Office Hours: https://magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-the-top-15-modern-decks-for-november-2023 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

Could the right move in Modern be... adding a 4mv black card to Rhinos? Playing a green 2 drop over Murktide in... Murktide? What is even going on right now? We believe there's new stuff to try in Modern even now! Tune in to hear Devon almost take Rhinos + Sheoldred all the way and hear Dave come to the grim realization that casting Divinations is the only thing that makes him feel something in this crazy world. We try out new lists, new ideas, all in a quest to somehow beat both Beans and Scam with the same deck. Can it be done? Not yet... but we think people (and Devon) may be onto something. After we talk what we've been playing in Modern, we dive into descending into some of the first cards from The Lost Caverns of Ixalan. • Devon Goes There ft. Sheoldred • Dave Plays Cheap Spells ft. Questing Druid • Shane Descends Into Spoilers Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 6:03 - Heavy Play time 6:59 - On this week's show 8:02 - Housekeeping 11:33 - The Dive Down begins: d00m makes the finals with Sheoldred Rhinos 35:22 - Dave tests Temur Tempo 55:33 - Spiderspace's Grixis Tempo deck (briefly) 57:53 - The Break Down begins: Spoiler season returns - Lost Caves of Ixalan! 58:58 - Craft & The Enigma Jewel 1:03:01 - Discover & Geological Appraiser 1:06:22 - Descend & The Mycotyrant (also Map Tokens) 1:12:30 - Saheeli, the Sun's Brilliance 1:14:54 - Spyglass Siren 1:16:45 - Jadelight Spelunker 1:19:15 - Abuelo, Ancestral Echo 1:21:35 - Quintorius Kand 1:26:00 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: d00mwake's Rhinos + Sheoldred: https://x.com/d00mwake/status/1716509786089443466?s=20 Andrea Mengucci's Temur Murktideless Murktide: https://x.com/Mengu09/status/1716078994670428517?s=20 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

Come back home for some beans, ya hear? We know you've had a lot of legumes lately, but this week The Dive Down has a special chef here to cook for us — Evart Moughon. Evart joins Dave and Shane to talk through his Up the Beanstalk brews including Cascade, Calibrated Blast, and more. Since this was recorded on (Non) Ban Day, we also spend some time getting his reactions to the current state of Modern and what he really thinks about Scam/Grief. Lastly, to close out the show, we dip our toes back into Pioneer and take a look at The NRG Series Showdown in Indianapolis. • Meet our new sponsor: Pedialyte! • No changes to all formats but meet our new boosters! • Lean into the bean • NRG Indianapolis Pioneer Showdown Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 4:15 - Shane's Heavy Play XP 6:00 - This week's show/housekeeping 9:31 - The Break Down begins - (lack of) bans! 43:35 - Talkin' beards 46:54 - The Dive Down begins - Cascade Beans 56:40 - How this deck works 1:10:18 - Fighting the Bean 1:20:40 - The Dive Down, cont: The NRG Indy Showdown Pioneer $10k 1:28:12 - The top 8 1:32:16 - Some Pioneer takes 1:36:48 - The NRG standings 1:38:40 - Shane's extremely brief RCQ report and wrapping up Links from this week's episode: Honestly just: https://www.moxfield.com/users/aspiringspike Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

No one fully understands the timing of the upcoming B&R announcement, but public opinion in Modern is swelling around Scam. Is it time to make a change to Modern? We look at the deck's performance, play patterns, and popularity to consider Wizard's options. The Dive Down boys are divided. Some of us like the deck! But it's insanely popular right now, and the Grief play patterns can be pretty annoying. Messing with the ban list seems a bit awkward during the Modern RCQ season, but maybe saving people from the turn one Scam play would be a welcome change? The Dive Down: Luv2Grief The Dive Down, cont: More of a Dauthi head myself The Dive Down, still cont: This discussion isn't dead after all Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:58 - Heavy Beeps 6:25 - Housekeeping 9:42 - Why we are talking about Scam 13:13 - How did we get here? 21:13 - Scam's current place in the meta 39:12 - Our experiences with Scam 46:11 - How good is Scam, really? 1:00:11 - What's maybe not so good about Scam 1:12:07 - How you can beat Scam 1:20:08 - Winter scents 1:22:50 - Does Scam deserve a ban? 1:31:15 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: https://www.magic.gg/news/metagame-mentor-everything-to-win-your-2023-modern-rcq?_ga=2.177410017.512776497.1696739444-1798107090.1696739444 https://www.quietspeculation.com/2023/10/september-23-modern-metagame-update-getting-cheated/ Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week what's on the tin is in the show! We begin to dip back into Pio and cover the recent RCs in the EU and Canada, talk Modern Coffers and Scales, and finally chat a little about new cards from our imminent return to Ixalan. • LEC Lille Pioneer • Devon talks RCQs, Dave gets mathy • Cavern of Souls is back... but why? Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 6:03 - Playing Heavy 11:20 - Housekeeping 15:36 - The Break Down begins: The Lille Pioneer RC 25:56 - The Lille Top 8 34:28 - The Face2Face Calgary Pioneer event 36:39 - The flat Pioneer metagame 42:15 - Getting Hollow 45:33 - The Dive Down begins: Devon's Coffers RCQ 1:05:42 - Dave played Hardened Scales 1:27:51 - Talking some fresh spoilers 1:38:15 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: LEC Lille Results: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/16639 F2F Tour Championship: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/17095 Pioneer Winrates: https://mtgdecks.net/Pioneer/winrates/event_ids:141948,142011,142012 Modern Hardened Scales: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5888059#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

We finally cast the new card in town and played a couple Up the Beanstalk decks in Modern and... Standard?! Plus some new Modern Prowess builds, and a recap of Stan's latest RCQ. Stan reached another top 8 finish in a Modern RCQ, and we recap his latest Rhino learning from the tournament. Then he keeps on casting free spells with a crazy Invasion of Alara Standard Cascade deck featuring Up the Beanstalk. Meanwhile, Shane learns to love 5C Bring to Light Beans. While d00mwake admits how much he hates Omnath decks and just played Prowess instead. The Break Down: The joy and pain of another top 8 The Dive Down: The musical fruit The Dive Down cont.: Playing Prowess without Dave Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: Links from this week's episode: Stan's Rhino Deck: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5841110#paper d00mwake's Rhino Deck: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/waHIPFpV1UyF6II44-YS7w Modern Bring to Light Beans: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5878236#paper Standard Cascade: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5870855#paper Gruul Prowess: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/-Ii6mZEKQ0CnfLoATc4q1g Jeskai Prowess: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/nMdLGyE670G6s1BFzLLHfQ Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

President of the Narset fan club, George Jabbour, joins Stanislav to go over some tips to prep for the upcoming Modern RCQ season, a brand new sideboard guide tool, and why playing control is such a pain in the @$$. Stan and George are gearing up for some Modern RCQs this weekend, so they swap notes on how they prepare for competitive tournaments in any format. Plus, George talks about his brand new sideboard tool, flexslot.gg, which he developed himself and is free for anyone to use. Finally, we dive into control strategies, which are near and dear to George's heart, to go over why they're so tough to play, how they stack up against today's Modern metagame, and why some people should probably avoid them. The Break Down: How to prepare for a Modern tournament. The Dive Down: Never playing control again. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 1:12 - Stan gets Heavy 3:33 - Housekeeping 5:55 - George in the Grinder's Studio 17:41 - Tournament prep practices 48:19 - Sideboarding and flexslot.gg 1:00:25 - Special Shane smell appearance 1:04:40 - Talking about Control 1:14:07 - How to think about playing Control 1:21:48 - Evaluating Control finishers 1:27:47 - Controls matchups 1:36:38 - Promoting George 1:38:33 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: https://linktr.ee/jabjabber https://shuddermtg.substack.com/p/how-bad-practice-can-make-you-worse-085 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

Hello Magical Friends! This week it's all about WOE and the new cards that are making an impact in Modern and Pioneer. Turns out that this return to Eldraine might actually be hiding a little bit of power in it after all. First, we dive into Modern. Devon's been running hot with Mono-Black Coffers lately — thanks in no small part to a chase mythic that's a perfect fit for the deck. We also spend some time talking about two cards that look to be new format staples: Agatha's Soul Caludron and Up the Beanstalk. After that we hop over to Pioneer. At first glance, it looks like WOE has given aggro decks in Pioneer a bunch of new tools... but which ones are actually any good? We think you otter tune in to find out how just far this bunnicorn go. If you know what we mean. Actually, we don't know what we mean... just tune in anyway! It's another week on The Dive Down! • New Stuff! • Modern & Devon's Success • Pioneer & Aggro Decks Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Go to https://heavyplay.com/THEDIVEDOWN for 10% off your first order. Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 5:00 - Improve your gameplay and your gameday 8:10 - Housekeeping 10:43 - Modern Starts: Mono-Black Coffers 22:05 - Talkin' 'bout Talisman and Beseech the Mirror 36:45 - What makes Coffers good? 44:33 - Agatha's Soul Cauldron & Up the Beanstalk 1:02:04 - Smell Break 1:05:19 - Pioneer Starts: Boros Convoke ft. Regal Bunnicorn 1:22:19 - Elusive Otter in Izzet Prowess 1:32:40 - Devon's other intriguing decks 1:43:40 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: D00mwake's latest Mono-Black Coffers List: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5855694#paper Claudioh's Soulful Yawg List: https://twitter.com/claudiohmtg/status/1700788139806081409?s=20 Danzant's 75-Card Main 4c Bean List: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5855695#paper D00mwake's Boros Convoke List: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/5L65haImFUuje1toa8N15A WelcomeToTheInternet's Izzet Prowess List: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5849646#paper D00mwake's Boggles List: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/wHNBKOkiOUijxke5Q3KoKA D00mwake's Naya Pia List: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/AmkMP2PT80SIk9_P1UxO-g Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week we talk about the history of Modern through the lens of the most important — and infamous — sets covering everything from Alara to Zendikar. Actually saying "from Alara to Zendikar" sounds less impressive than I hoped. Forget that. We start all the way back with 8th Edition and we at least mention nearly all the sets currently in Modern (well at least like... 60% of them). How did the sets designed before Modern was created impact the birth of this format? How did the format move from childhood into adolescence? What little detours ended up taking us into this Modern Horizons-driven reality? And most importantly... what were The Rhino Boys doing while all this was happening? Join us for this special episode brought to you by long time sponsor AND top tier Patron — Will from Barrister and Mann. He made the rules and we made the ep. Hope you enjoy it! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:58 - Heavy Playtime 10:00 - Housekeeping 14:03 - The story of Modern begins 19:22 - Eighth Edition 25:40 - Mirrodin 30:04 - Ravnica 35:20 - Time Spiral 43:45 - Alara 47:19 - Magic 2010 55:36 - Zendikar 1:01:10 - Scars of Mirrodin 1:04:45 - PT Philly 1:08:06 - Innistrad 1:11:58 - Return to Ravnica 1:16:30 - Modern Masters 1:24:45 - Khans of Tarkir 1:34:03 - Some later sets, and some takes 1:43:20 - What sets did the most good for Modern? 1:46:51 - Thanks, Will! Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

The full set is finally spoiled and we're back with the definitive opinions on what's good, what's bad, and what's just neat. We spend a lot of time chatting about some adventuring otters, introduce a once Modern playable cantrip to Pioneer, and head up the beanstalk to draw some cards. • Adventure Awaits • Virtue is a Virtue Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:48 - Weighted Play 7:07 - Housekeeping 8:32 - Moonshaker Cavalry 12:38 - Elusive Otter 18:51 - Devouring Sugarmaw 22:21 - Frolicking Familiar 26:31 - Scalding Viper 33:18 - Hearth Elemental 37:12 - Questing Druid 38:55 - Mosswood Dreadknight 41:40 - Thunderous Debut 44:54 - Regal Bunnicorn 48:47 - Royal Treatment 50:35 - Quick Study 53:27 - Woodland Acolyte 58:25 - Soap's on Sale 1:01:40 - Sleight of Hand 1:05:50 - Up The Beanstalk 1:08:58 - Faerie stuff 1:14:07 - Collector's Vault/Candy Trail 1:16:08 - Virtue of Persistence/Virtue of Courage 1:18:47 - Sentinel of Lost Lore 1:21:56 - Takes on Wilds of Eldraine 1:23:49 - The bests of the set 1:33:06 - Wrapping up Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

It's that most magical time once again — it's spoiler season! Join Dave, Devon, and Shane as they begin surveying the Wilds of Eldraine. We're looking for new Adventures, causes for Celebration, and to take on new... Roles? Ok that didn't work for long. This week we talk about the cards and concepts from Eldraine that seem like they could make an impact in Modern and Pioneer. But before we get to that, we talk with Devon about his recent RCQ win, Rac Sac, and how it feels to claim lots of goblins in a single day. Join us! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN2023 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:36 - The Heaviest Play 6:05 - Housekeeping 7:59 - Random Europe stories 10:36 - d00m finally won an RCQ! 18:50 - Wilds of Eldraine is here 21:55 - Adventures are back 23:10 - Decadent Dragon 29:44 - Callous Sellsword 33:56 - Kellan, the Fae-Blooded 37:36 - Knight of the Helix 39:42 - Creature Lands 50:18 - Choose your Role 53:26 - Monstrous Rage 56:01 - Not Dead After All 1:00:47 - Bargain 1:02:38 - Farsight Ritual 1:04:40 - Brave The Wilds 1:07:13 - Beseech The Mirror 1:09:48 - Celebration (briefly) 1:11:14 - Faerie Fencing and Ego Drain 1:14:22 - Enchantments matter (maybe) 1:15:21 - A Tale For The Ages and Yenna, Redtooth Regent 1:18:49 - Tough Cookie 1:21:38 - Agatha's Soul Cauldron 1:25:07 - Beluna Grandsquall 1:27:17 - Syr Ginger, the Meal Ender 1:31:02 - The Goose Mother 1:32:57 - Ruby, Daring Tracker 1:36:14 - Wrapping up Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week Shane and Stan are joined by returning guest Gabriel Maxson, aka SpiderSpace, to talk about the implications, impact, and potential uses of Preordain in Modern. Before that, we take a good look at the results from the NRD Detroit Modern $10k. How many copies of Preordain made the top 8? I guess we will never know.... The Break Down: NRG Detroit Results The Dive Down: SpiderSpace on Preordain (aka Stan Loves Cantrips) Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN2023 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 6:21 - Housekeeping 9:40 - The NRG Detroit Modern $10k metagame 34:45 - The NRG Top 8 44:54 - The NRG leaderboard 46:46 - An ocean of aroma 48:26 - The Dive Down begins: What's the deal with Preordain? 51:31 - Why Preordain was banned in the first place 54:28 - How does Preordain compare to what we had before? 1:02:54 - Are cantrips even good in Modern? 1:07:50 - Preordain's role in particular decks 1:32:04 - Did we decide anything here? 1:41:10 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: NRG Detroit: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/15650 Find SpiderSpace on Twitter: https://twitter.com/spiderspacemtg?lang=en Find SpiderSpace on Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/spiderspace Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

On this week's episode, we kick off with a round of B&R reactions, followed by a recap of the upcoming product roadmap including Modern Horizons 3. Then we take some Pro Tour decks for a spin to see what these so-called pros have been cooking up. Devon tells us about his experiences playing with Merfolk, Reanimator, and Samwise, Shane tries out some of the latest Tron builds, and Stan rams some wizards into Rhinos. The Break Down: Preordain Unbanned! The Break Down (cont.): Modern Horizon 3 is coming! The Dive Down: New Modern decks fresh from Spain! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Upgrade your gameplay and your gameday with Heavy Play accessories. Use code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN2023 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code DIVE8 at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 2:59 - Some important Patreon stuff 3:58 - Very Heavy Play 5:48 - Housekeeping 7:06 - The Break Down: Tired: Bans; Wired: Unbans 19:02 - The unbanning of Preordain 26:17 - No changes in Pioneer 37:03 - WOTC's GenCon annoucements - MH3, Pioneer Masters, and more! 49:28 - Spooky smells 52:10 - The Dive Down: Testing Pro Tour lists 52:55 - Stan plays CFB's Temur Wizard Rhinos 1:07:07 - Devon plays 4C Reanimator, Merfolk, Samwise combo, and more 1:22:04 - Shane plays Handshake G Tron 1:38:27 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: B&R: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/august-7-2023-banned-and-restricted-announcement Rhino Wizards: https://www.channelfireball.com/article/Temur-Rhinos-Got-Some-Spicy-New-Tech-from-Lord-of-the-Rings/943a3c89-7c29-4747-a3dd-3c8d581386b6/ Handshake Tron: https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/315233 Naya Scapeshift https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5771029#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week Dave, Shane, and Stan go through the biggest things we learned from the Modern PT last week in Barcelona. It might feel like Rakdos and Tron led the story (and they did) but there's a lot of other things to be learned from what happened. What do we think about The One Ring's win rate? How many decks out of the top 80% of the meta had winning records? How much more can we talk about Rhinos? The answers and what we think they mean might surprise you. • Only 10 Decks Had 50%+ Win Rate • The One Ring Might Not Be Broken • But Grief Probably Is Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWNM23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN2023 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:52 - Stan reps Heavy Play 5:28 - Housekeeping 7:33 - Headlines from the Modern Pro Tour 9:39 - 1: Rakdos was everywhere (and also won) 22:21 - 2: Five decks made up the top 57% of the meta 31:30 - 3: Tron is ... good. Right? 43:15 - 4: The less-represented decks were Not Good 50:02 - 5: Small Sample Size Theater 54:34 - 6: Only 10 deck archetypes had a 50+% winrate 56:15 - 7: The most popular cards might not have been the best 1:04:35 - 8: The top 32 had 13 different decks 1:09:12 - 9: The top 8 was stacked 1:12:34 - 10: What's next for Modern 1:20:48 - Does the PT impact Casual Spikes? 1:24:13 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: The decks of the Pro Tour: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/16429 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

It's almost PT Barcelona time — and we're super excited to talk through the decks, meta, and how we think everything is going to shape up this weekend. Shane, Dave, and Devon (aka d00mwake) go through all of the changes to Modern since LOTR and what we think that means to Pros and to the rest of us. Once we get through a meta discussion, we decide to put pride on the line and do a fantasy draft of the archetypes — nothing like a little competition on top of competition. Shane goes all in on Scam. Dave grabs late round value. Devon goes for big mana. Who will reign supreme? • What the Meta is • How it Got There • Fantasy Drafting the Meta Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWNM23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN2023 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 4:43 - Dave spoils his intro 6:42 - Housekeeping 10:15 - The Modern Pro Tour is back! 17:02 - How the meta has shifted with LOTR 24:23 - Last weekend's 4 challenges 35:36 - What's shaping Modern's meta 41:30 - The One Ring decks 58:18 - The Bowmasters decks 1:05:07 - The combo... deck? 1:07:50 - The other contenders (and non-contenders) 1:16:45 - Fragrances for individuals 1:19:05 - The Pro Tour fantasy draft! 1:35:45 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: Take a look at our draft board: https://www.figma.com/file/uHvwBeISD3a8PXfBvJVgf3/TDD-PT-LOTR-Draft-Board?type=whiteboard&node-id=0%3A1&t=3TczhXHJBK2Lig2q-1 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week the boyz go over the top with the biggest decks that have gotten buffs from the LOTR set. Control and big mana strategies have been strengthened by The One Ring, so we take a trio of the best of them out for a test drive. That's right, it's time for Shane to break out his (nearly) all Russian deck, Mono-Green Tron. But before we get to that Stan professes his love for Mono-Black Coffers and Dave takes a spin with the Twitter hype deck of the week — UB Ring Control by Talisker. • Mono-Black Coffers • Dimir Control (from TaliskerMTGO) • Mono-Green Tron Check out Heavy Play to improve your gameplay and game day. Awesome deck boxes, playmats and more at heavyplay.com — and use code "THEDIVEDOWN2023" for 10% off your first order. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWNM23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN2023 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 2:05 - Heavy Play! 5:35 - Housekeeping 8:36 - Stan talks Mono-Black Coffers 14:38 - How Coffers works 21:30 - Playing Coffers 29:58 - Coffers in the Modern meta 34:31 - Dave talks Dimir Control 44:29 - Playing Dimir Control 51:12 - Stan has a box 54:40 - Shane talks Green Tron 1:01:45 - How Tron is different and better 1:15:45 - So let's talk about The One Ring 1:25:00 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: Mono-Black Coffers by DreamsOfAshiok: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5740288#paper UB Ring Control by Talisker: https://twitter.com/taliskermtgo/status/1679559848994676751?s=46 Mono-Green Tron by Giona Cai: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/archetype/modern-mono-green-tron#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

On this week's show, we continue to track the impact of Lord of the Rings: Tales of Middle-earth on the Modern metagame with a detailed recap of tournaments all over the world and world wide web. We touch on the St. Louis NRG Team Trios, the Legacy European Tour Bologna event, and a bunch of Modern challenges. We look at which decks converted the best across tournaments, who's seeing the most consistent results among the format's top archetypes, interesting trends within online data, and how we rank the current Modern staples. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Enhance your Magic accessories with the newest deck boxes, sleeves, and playmats from Heavy Play. Use code TheDiveDown2023 for 10% off your first order at https://www.heavyplay.com/ Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWNM23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN2023 Receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 8:07 - Housekeeping 11:58 - Heavy Play x The Dive Down 14:00 - The St. Louis NRG Team Trios 27:33 - The NRG Top 8 decks 32:22 - The Legacy European Tour Bologna Modern Event 42:20 - Live Smells of Little Treats 47:02 - Legacy European Tour deck performance 1:01:18 - The Top 8 1:03:34 - Cool Challenge stuff 1:10:40 - Takes on Modern decks 1:23:32 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: NRG Series Team Trios in St. Louis - https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/15645 Legacy European Tour Modern Bologna - https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/16657 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week we keep talking about THE PRECIOUSSSSs... because no one can stop putting this colorless 4-drop in their Modern decks. Dave and Devon go through at least 6 or 10 decks with the ring while Stan silently looks on and nods approvingly (he has no voice, yet he lent his energy and notes to this episode). Then we do a bit of a deep dive into how to think about playing against The One Ring — and try to create a roadmap for how to think about playing against format-warping cards in general. Finally, we talk quickly about a couple of non-Ring decks you can consider right now. Rings Decks Playing Against Rings Decks Non-Rings Decks Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWNM23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN2023 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 1:48 - Housekeeping 3:39 - Modern is different, and The One Ring is why 5:30 - 4C Ringpile 15:14 - Ringos (and other chat) 29:10 - Ringanimator 37:20 - Dimir Asmoringtacular 42:13 - The emerging Ring Meta 44:35 - Azorius Ringtrol 46:26 - Playing against The One Ring 1:05:40 - Decks outside The One Ring 1:25:42 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: Rhinos ft TOR https://twitter.com/d00mwake/status/1674247337416310786 4C Money Pile https://twitter.com/Fencingbrick/status/1674185814429900804/photo/3 https://twitter.com/CHERRYAXEMAN_OP/status/1674357284795809794 https://twitter.com/Aspiringspike/status/1675246156874498048 Ponza ft TOR https://twitter.com/d00mwake/status/1674838758108037128 Reanimator ft TOR https://twitter.com/d00mwake/status/1673860448347619328 UW Control ft TOR https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5707375#paper Dimir Asmo w/ TOR https://twitter.com/d00mwake/status/1675667766634860544 Scam ft. Bowmasters https://twitter.com/YungDingoMTG/status/1672503676840058880/photo/1 Samwise combo https://twitter.com/d00mwake/status/1672268892868161536 Creativity playing Reprieve https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-2023-06-30#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

We finally return to Modern!! Shane and Devon join forces to break down a bunch of tournaments from last weekend, including the NRG Chicagoland Modern $10k, a huge Japanese paper tournament, and some wild MTGO Challenges. After that, they look more closely at The One Ring (and some other cards) and how it's quickly changing the face of Modern. The Break Down: Mono-G Tron has legs in Chicago The Break Down, cont: Living End returns to MTGO The Dive Down: Devon returns to... Modern? Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWNM23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN2023 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 6:36 - Housekeeping 8:59 - The Break Down begins: The NRG Chicagoland Modern $10k 11:46 - The overall metagame and deck breakdowns 26:25 - The NRG Top 8 33:55 - The NRG Leaderboard 35:52 - The Players Convention Modern Open 42:35 - What these two paper tournaments tell us 45:30 - The Modern Showcase Challenge 1:00:07 - What are we thinking about all these tournaments? 1:04:38 - Devon goes on an advertising journey 1:08:00 - The Dive Down begins: The One Ring(s) 1:27:54 - Delighted Halfling and Orcish Bowmasters 1:32:46 - Devon has been playing... Modern? 1:38:51 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: The NRG Chicagoland Modern $10K: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/14061 The Player's Convention Modern Open: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/15431 Mixed data: https://mtgmeta.io/tournaments/14956?mix=14939 The Showcase Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-showcase-challenge-2023-06-24#paper Sunday's Challenge: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-2023-06-25#paper Boros Hammer: https://melee.gg/Decklist/View/306630 Izzet... Stuff: https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5694033#paper Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

Ryan Spain, now the Creative Director of Magic Online at Daybreak Games, returns to The Dive Down to talk about the transition of MTGO from WOTC to Daybreak, goals and hopes for the platform's future, and the realities of managing such monolithic software. We learn about how Magic card frames pose challenges for MTGO's file sizes, how two factor authorization was developed, and why MTGO still doesn't exist on Macs. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWNM23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN2023 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:07 - Housekeeping 7:40 - Ryan Spain of Daybreak Games joins The Dive Down 12:14 - Creative Directing Magic Online 14:25 - Transitioning M:O to Daybreak 18:35 - How M:O fits into the Magic ecosystem 24:40 - Bugfixing and developing M:O 31:08 - Future plans for M:O 54:18 - The economy of M:O 1:05:15 - Engagement with formats on M:O 1:08:20 - Where's the Mac version?! 1:13:16 - Experimentation on M:O 1:18:34 - Some final thoughts 1:21:00 - Wrapping up 1:22:39 - Secret track Links from this week's episode: https://www.mtgo.com/news/mtgo-stateofmtgo-10112022 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week Shane welcomes back two friends of the show — Devon O'Donnell (aka d00mwake) & Evart Moughton (aka aspiringspike) — to sub in for Dave and Stan and talk Post-RC Pioneer hype decks and where cards from Lord of the Rings: Tales of Middle-Earth could find homes in Modern. That's right, two guests, two formats, and a whole lotta takes. Devon loves Evart's dogs. Evart loves The One Ring. Shane registers quiet skepticism about all these hobbits. • Devon & Evart's Wild Weekend • Post-RC Pioneer Hype Decks • anything cool going on in modern? • Is The One Ring Busted? Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWNM23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN2023 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:45 - Housekeeping 5:07 - The Break Down begins: Devon and Evart Do Dallas 20:48 - The hype decks of Pioneer post-RC 43:11 - Anything cool going on in Modern? 47:00 - LOTR: Tales of Middle-Earth spoilers continue 48:20 - Is The One Ring busted? 51:55 - Stern Scolding 55:26 - Aragorn, the Uniter 56:53 - Frodo, Determined Hero 1:00:14 - Orcish Bowmasters 1:02:30 - Boromir, Warden of the Tower 1:05:16 - Flowering of the White Tree 1:08:07 - Flame of Anor 1:11:29 - Samwise Gamgee 1:16:05 - Rosie Cotton of South Lane 1:18:40 - Elven Farsight 1:22:20 - This is not Modern Horizons 3 1:24:28 - Oliphaunt 1:28:50 - What Evart and Devon are up to 1:34:54 - Wrapping up Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

The Lord of the Rings: Tales of Middle-earth spoilers are in full swing, so we dive into a bunch of cards that could see play in existing Modern decks or even create some new ones. Plus we recap the results of the latest Pioneer Regional Championship in Dallas. We attempt to Press the Enemy and get a Stern Scolding. But we Forge Anew with some Orcish Bowmasters and a determined Frodo in the legendary lands of Rivendell. After that we encounter the denizens of Khazad-dûm and Moira. Then Stan cracks a pack. Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWNM23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN2023 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:29 - Housekeeping 8:45 - LOTR Spoilers... again! 14:05 - Stern Scolding 20:36 - Cast Into the Fire 23:48 - Press the Enemy 30:45 - Forge Anew 37:10 - Orcish Bowmasters 43:15 - The Legendary Lands 54:32 - Frodo, Determined Hero 57:18 - Frodo Baggins 1:00:01 - Pippin, Guard of the Citadel 1:03:35 - Lobelia, Sackville-Baggins 1:05:13 - Troll of Khazad-dûm 1:07:48 - Moira Marauder 1:11:11 - Summertime Shaving 1:14:25 - Stan cracks a pack 1:18:28 - Dreamhack Dallas RC Break Down 1:21:18 - The RC Metagame 1:34:43 - Conversion rates 1:37:35 - The Top 8 1:42:58 - Pioneer takeaways 1:48:08 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week on The Dive Down we go deep on that deck that people can't stop talking about — Boros Convoke in Pioneer. Dave and Devon talk about the core strategy of the deck, the flex cards and why people use them, how to mull, what to keep, and matchups — the good, the bad, and the middle. Get ready for Devon to explain how his perceptions about some matchups have changed since he started playing the deck and for Dave to have an argument with ChatGPT about math. Finally, we talk about what's on Devon's mind as he gets ready for Dreamhack Dallas. It's all in a week on The Dive Down! • Risky Keeps? • ChatGPT Can't Do Multivariate Probabilities • Dreamhack Dallas via Valencia Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWNM23 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN2023 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 3:03 - Housekeeping 5:48 - What's the deal with Boros Convoke? 10:22 - The cards of Convoke 46:53 - Playing Convoke 59:36 - Matchups and sideboard options 1:16:15 - The Valencia LMS Pioneer event meta 1:35:47 - Some final takes on Convoke 1:39:13 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: Boros Convoke Lists: D00m’s current list: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FxLkfM-WAAEB13p?format=jpg&name=medium Frank Karsten's article: https://strategy.channelfireball.com/cfb-pro-content/convoke-chaos-unleash-the-power-of-pioneers-hottest-new-deck-mtg-deep-dive/ Sodek’s list + guide: https://mystical-teachings.com/boros-convoke-primer/ Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

Stan and Shane combine forces to discuss the NRG Pioneer $10K in Minneapolis, and then give some hot takes about the changes to the B&R cadence and Standard's new 3-year rotation. What latest tech from March of the Machine (and it's Aftermath?) had an impact in Pioneer? And what do WOTC's changes mean for the future of our formats? Listen and find out! The Break Down: Hyrule via Knutsford The Break Down, cont: An 160 All-Foil Control Mirror The Dive Down: Strong Feelings About B&Rs Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN2023 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 6:40 - Housekeeping 9:14 - The NRG Minneapolis/St. Paul Pioneer $10K 12:40 - The overall metagame and performances 30:50 - Thoughts on the meta 34:51 - The Top 8 40:24 - Stanislav played Izzet Creativity 51:25 - Hot takes on WOTC's new B&R strategy 1:07:23 - Hot takes on Standard moving to a 3-year rotation 1:11:44 - Stan cracks a pack 1:15:34 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: The NRG Minneapolis Pioneer $10K: https://melee.gg/Tournament/View/14059 Revitalizing Standard: https://magic.wizards.com/en/news/announcements/revitalizing-standard Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week d00mwake joins Shane and Dave to go through a quick tour of the weirdness that happened in Modern and Pioneer MTG this week. We dive deep into the wild Modern Challenge on 5/13, a new + interesting deck d00mwake has been playing in Pioneer, and the somewhat surprising places new cards have appeared in the last few weeks. Dave declares his love for Sultai Shadow. Shane wonders if Ob Nixilis is really a win more. Devon takes us through an interesting new Boros Tokens list he's been working on. • Adventures in Pioneering • Surprising Modern Tricks • Yargle's Vengeance Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN2023 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 5:25 - Housekeeping 8:15 - Devon's adventures in Pioneer 8:40 - Boros Tokens 16:48 - Rakdos Sacrifice with Ob Nixilis, Captive Kingpin 27:12 - Coppercoat Vanguard 33:45 - Some final Pioneer highlights 40:15 - Saturday's Modern Challenge highlights 40:51 - Sultai Traverse Shadow 51:07 - Hardened Scales makes a return! 55:14 - Weird Creativity tech 57:24 - Weird Rakdos Scam tech 1:02:03 - 4-Color Omnath with Nissa 1:04:05 - Some more weird Modern tech 1:11:34 - Sunday's Modern Challenge highlights 1:14:42 - Yargle's Vengeance 1:17:13 - Even more weird Modern tech 1:21:34 - Wrapping up Links from this week's episode: Saturday 5/13 Modern Challenge https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-2023-05-13#paper Modern Humans w/ Coppercoat Vanguard jenesaisquoi, https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5612522#paper Parrotlet, https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5610799#paper Sunday 5/14 Modern Challenge https://www.mtggoldfish.com/tournament/modern-challenge-2023-05-14#paper Coppercoat Vanguard in Pioneer https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5616010#paper https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5616016#paper Rakdos Sacrifice w/ Ob Nixilis, Captive Kingpin ChiChiChi, https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5612490#paper Shadowz2005, https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/5612482#paper D00mwake's Boros Tokens https://twitter.com/d00mwake/status/1655674173904003106?s=20 Mason Clarke's NeoSoulflayerTraxa https://twitter.com/masoneclark/status/1657193505695887360?s=20 Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown

This week it's time for... you guessed it... more card talk on The Dive Down. With Dave out, Stan and Shane do double duty with a look at the cards that stand tall in the Aftermath of MOM and ask the question: how many bulk rares do you have to sacrifice to despark a planeswalker? After that we take a quick trip to Middle Earth to talk about some tempting new information. Listen. Now. You've been tempted. • Some Aftermath • Some Rings • A Pack is Cracked! Become a citizen of The Dive Down Nation!: http://www.patreon.com/thedivedown Show the world that you're a proud citizen of The Dive Down Nation with some merch from the store: https://www.thedivedown.com/store Check out our sponsor Barrister and Mann! https://www.barristerandmann.com/ Use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN2023 for 15% off your first order of some incredible fragrances, soaps, beard oils, and more. Get 10% off your first 2 months of ManaTraders! https://www.manatraders.com/?medium=thedivedown and use coupon code THEDIVEDOWN2023 And now receive 8% off your order of paper cards from Nerd Rage Gaming with code "DIVE8" at https://www.nerdragegaming.com/ Timestamps: 4:55 - Housekeeping 7:24 - The Dive Down begins: March of the Machine: Aftermath 13:02 - Coppercoat Vanguard 15:57 - Vesuvan Drifter 20:12 - Ayara's Oathsworn 24:32 - Nissa, Resurgent Animist 27:48 - Tranquil Frillback 30:47 - Jirina, Dauntless General 32:41 - Calix, Guided by Fate 35:58 - Narset, Enlightened Exile 40:02 - Ob Nixilis, Captive Kingpin 42:54 - Pia Nalaar, Consul of Revival 45:08 - Sarkhan, Soul Aflame 49:07 - Samut, Vizier of Naktamun 51:52 - Some final thoughts on Aftermath 53:32 - LOTR spoilers continue 54:30 - The Ring Tempts You 1:00:04 - Call of the Ring 1:01:54 - Delighted Halfling 1:08:10 - The Wind Down! Crack-a-pack! 1:15:01 - Wrapping up Our opening music is Nowhere - You Never Knew, and our closing music is Space Blood - Goro? Is That Your Christian Name? email us: [email protected] twitter: https://twitter.com/thedivedown