The Dave Gerhardt Show (from Exit Five)

This episode is from Drive 2024, our first-ever in-person event for B2B marketers in Burlington, Vermont. Dave hosts a marketing leadership panel with Peter Mahoney, CCO of GoTo, Tara Robertson, CMO at Bitly, and Amrita Mathur, Head of Marketing at Zapier. These marketing leaders open up about their experiences and share actionable advice to help you lead, manage, and set goals for your marketing team. Dave, Peter, Tara, and Amrita cover:Why business literacy is so important for marketing leadersHow to set goals for your marketing teamEach panelists biggest career risks — what worked, and what did notPractical frameworks for managing short-term demands while staying committed to long-term goalsTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Peter, Amrita, and Tara (07:42) - - One Piece of Advice for Marketing Leaders (15:10) - - How to Set Goals For Your Team (24:21) - - Framework for Short-Term vs Long-Term Pipeline Goals (26:55) - - Budgeting for Short-Term vs Long-Term Goals (29:25) - - How to Work with a Difficult Counterpart (31:48) - - Panelists’ Biggest Career Risk That Worked (35:42) - - Panelists’ Biggest Career Risk That Did NOT Work (38:18) - - How to Lead your Team When You’re in a Leadership Rut (46:39) - - How to Navigate a New Leadership Role (50:03) - - Making Uncomfortable Decisions as a Leader (53:16) - - Does CEO = CMO? (54:59) - - When to Reconsider Your Strategy (58:24) - - Closing Remarks Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

In this episode, Dave is joined by Sean Lane, Founding Partner at BeaconGTM and RevOps expert, to talk about scaling RevOps in B2B. With over a decade of experience at Drift and other B2B SaaS companies, Sean shares actionable tips for marketers looking to align operations with business goals.Dave and Sean cover:How to build alignment between sales, marketing, and opsWhy early-stage companies must align operational complexity with their growth maturityHow continuous planning helps marketing and ops teams stay agile as business challenges come upTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Sean (07:38) - - Going From Founder Led Sales to Having A Professional GTM (10:19) - - How Ops Bridges Business Goals (14:09) - - How To Align Sales, Marketing, and Operations (18:18) - - Why You Need A Clear Marketing Strategy (20:44) - - How To Build A Partnership Between Marketing and Operations (27:08) - - Guidelines For Long Term vs Short Term Budgeting And Planning (32:32) - - Marketing's Role At The Bottom Of The Funnel (37:27) - - How To Get “Hand-raisers” For Your Product In The Customer Journey (41:19) - - Do Engaged Accounts Measure The Success Of Marketing? (43:09) - - Sean’s Podcast ROI (45:25) - - AI Use Cases In Ops (50:27) - - How To Hire A Good Ops Person (53:55) - - Closing Remarks Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

In this special episode format, we’re testing out and delivering a B2B marketing lesson in under 10 minutes. No fluff—just practical, real-world insights based on what we’re learning each week here at Exit Five.This solo episode features Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five, who discusses a key lesson every B2B marketer needs to know: why every marketing email should have just one call to action. Matthew shares the psychology behind decision-making, including Hick's Law, decision fatigue, and Fogg’s Behavioral Model, and explains why simplifying your emails can lead to higher conversions. Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

In this episode, Dave Gerhardt sits down with Mason Cosby, a leader in account-based marketing (ABM) strategy and founder of Scrappy ABM. Dave and Mason unpack how to simplify ABM, create meaningful engagement, and build personalized campaigns that drive real business results.Dave and Mason cover:Why companies should crawl before they walk or run” with ABM by starting with re-engagement programs instead of complex tech stacks.Why you need to track key signals of engagement and align marketing efforts to warm up prospects before sales outreach.Why you should be treating sales as an integrated marketing channel.Timestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Mason (06:26) - - Should you be using ABM? (09:22) - - Breaking down the process — awareness to acquisition (12:40) - - Why you should be treating sales as a marketing channel (17:25) - - Insights and data you need for effective ABM (22:06) - - Distribution strategies (26:09) - - When to adjust your outreach strategy (27:51) - - Awareness, engagement, and high-intent follow-up strategies (32:08) - - Re-engagement vs awareness for ABM (35:09) - - Why your story and positioning drive marketing success (36:24) - - Mason’s framework for ABM programming (40:06) - - Learn before scaling ideas (crawl, walk, run) Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five, welcomes back Tas Bober, Founder of Delphinium and expert in landing page optimization. Tas recently audited 40 B2B landing pages submitted by members in the community, and in this episode, she and Matt break down her biggest takeaways and share everything marketers should know about B2B landing pages. Matt and Tas cover:Why you should separate homepages from landing pages to maintain data integrity and make sure your messaging is optimized for campaigns.Why website speed, ADA compliance, and accessible design are critical in 2024—and how to address these.Avoiding buzzwords and feature-dumping by telling compelling product stories and focusing on the value customers receive instead of jargon.Timestamps:(00:00) - - Intro To Tas (03:56) - - Landing Page Teardown In The Exit Five Community (07:54) - - Content Is King, Design And Experience Is Queen (12:21) - - ADA Compliance for Websites (16:21) - - How To Optimize Website Speed (18:40) - - Why You Should Use Separate Landing Pages for Targeted Feedback (22:27) - - The Best CTAs For Decision Fatigue (26:08) - - Why Simplified Writing Is Often Better For Engagement (29:08) - - How To Tell A Story About Your Product (32:04) - - Adding A Problem Block To Your Home Page (37:47) - - How to Craft Unique Language to Differentiate Your Brand (41:11) - - Why You Need Testimonials On Your Site (44:50) - - Why You Need FAQs On Your Site (47:56) - - Prioritize Value Before Requesting User Engagement (51:58) - - Niche Services Are A B2B Differentiation Strategy (55:01) - - Simplifying Demos (58:50) - - Tools For Optimizing Landing Pages (01:00:57) - - Closing Remarks Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

In this episode, Dave sits down with Kira Federer, VP of SMB Marketing at Paramount Advertising, and formerly at companies like Reddit and Glassdoor. Kira shares her journey from sales to product marketing and the lessons she’s learned along the way.Dave and Kira discuss:How to align marketing and sales through co-creation to ensure your sales team uses the content you createThe value of a strong messaging framework and how it drives consistency in B2B marketingWhy you need to time your product launches and ensure that marketing resonates with both your team and the market at the right momentTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Kira (07:09) - - Kira’s Career Journey From Sales Enablement to Product Marketing (10:23) - - Challenges of Building Community / Getting Connected with Exit Five (18:00) - - How To Get Sales To Use Content from Marketing (20:35) - - How to Align Marketing and Sales Teams (26:41) - - Effective Messaging and Having a Core Company Narrative (31:49) - - Why You Should Identify What Differentiates Your Business (35:32) - - How To Create Strong Brand Positioning (38:17) - - Why You Need To Have A Clear Vision And Strong Point of View in Marketing (40:01) - - “The Risk Of Insult Is The Price Of Clarity” Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

In this episode, Dave is joined by Madhav Bhandari, Head of Marketing at Storylane, a tool that helps companies build interactive product demos. Madhav shares the strategies that helped Storylane scale its website traffic from 25,000 to over 220,000 monthly visitors in just six months, using unique approaches to SEO and demand gen.Dave and Madhav discuss:Leveraging Demo-Led SEO for 10X website traffic growthHow targeting related product categories allowed Storylane to capture new audiences while building trust in their core marketHow AI is transforming workflows, enabling faster campaign execution, improving content creation, and driving innovation in marketing strategyTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Madhav (07:19) - - Building Brand Loyalty Through Content and Relationships (08:39) - - Building Brand Reputation in a Saturated Market (14:46) - - How To Strategize SEO By Capturing Existing Traffic (17:03) - - Why Interactive Demos Are So Important (21:38) - - How Madhav Executed Storylane’s Demo Page Project (27:06) - - Demo-Led SEO’s Impact on Brand Search and Signups (30:15) - - Why You Should Prioritize Website Articles Over Traditional Blogs (33:20) - - How To Create A Compelling Offer (38:38) - - Revenue Attribution (41:44) - - Storylane’s Ad Truck For Brand Awareness and Searches (46:37) - - Rethinking Email Marketing (50:09) - - Hiring a Dedicated Writer for Impactful Newsletters (50:53) - - Leveraging Engaged Audiences Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

In this episode, Dave sits down with Mychelle Mollot, CMO at Knak, a platform for creating, designing, and optimizing email and landing page content. Mychelle shares her wealth of experience, having led marketing efforts at IBM and various startups. She discusses her approach to leading marketing teams, scaling brands, and embracing AI in B2B marketing.Dave and Mychelle cover:How Knak built a brand and captured demand in a space without a known categoryThe balance between meeting short-term goals and dedicating some marketing budget to high-risk, high-reward experimentsHow AI is evolving from a standalone tool to being embedded in the core functionalities of marketing platformsTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Mychelle (06:46) - - Embracing Diverse Career Paths to Become a CMO (11:30) - - Leveraging Big Company Skills in Startups (12:21) - - Influencing Resources Without Ownership in Large Organizations (16:43) - - Weekly Team Meeting Tips (19:44) - - Mychelle’s OKR Framework (24:30) - - How Knak Creates and Captures Demand (26:02) - - How To Understand and Target Buyers (31:49) - - Having AI Discussions With Your Team (35:23) - - AI is Shifting from Core Component to Creative Assistant (36:45) - - Integrating AI into Core Tools (42:27) - - Sales and Marketing Alignment (45:49) - - Navigating Relationships as a CMO Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Danielle Messler, Head of Content at Exit Five, joins to talk about our first-ever virtual event: The Ultimate Roast of B2B Websites. It's a one day virtual event designed to help make your website better – with live teardowns of real examples submitted by B2B marketers just like you.She covers:What you'll learn if you attend The Ultimate RoastOur expert lineup of panelists who will dig into each essential section of a B2B websiteHow you can win prizes worth up to $80k in valueSign up for The Ultimate Roast here Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave sits down with Will Hoekenga, seasoned copywriter and messaging consultant for B2B SaaS brands and founder of Six Words Studio. Will shares his expertise on crafting copy for high-value web pages, like homepages and product pages, that drive conversions and speak directly to customer’s needs.Dave and Will cover:The importance of clear positioning and how it can make or break the effectiveness of your web copy.Why collaboration between design and copywriting is critical for creating a customer-driven page structure that leads to conversions.How to write web copy that differentiates your brand from competitors using unique, customer-centric language, moving beyond generic industry buzzwords.Timestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Will (06:50) - - Why Having A Dedicated Copywriter Is Not A More Common Hire (10:39) - - How to Write Web Copy That Makes Your Brand Stand Out Among Competitors (15:22) - - Simplifying Product Positioning with the CUB Framework (Confusing, Unbelievable, Boring) (20:22) - Recognizing Your Product’s Differentiation (24:42) - - How To Enhance Positioning and Structure with Voice and Tone (25:41) - - 37signals' Example and Inspiration (33:30) - - How to Collaborate on Design With Your Team (35:33) - - Why You Should Optimize Copy with Social Proof (40:42) - - How To Ask Customers Deep Product Questions (45:28) - - How To Highlight Non-Negotiable Features When Outlining Product Benefits (50:58) - - Content Structuring (52:50) - - Embracing Imperfection in Writing (55:30) - - Tips For Getting Inspired Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

In this episode, Dave is joined by Bruno Estrella, Head of Growth Marketing at Clay, a tool for data enrichment and sales automation. Bruno shares his experience from Webflow to Clay, where he’s leading a mix of product-led and sales-led growth strategies for B2B companies.Dave and Bruno discuss:Building a creator-led marketing program that encourages user-generated content and community involvementAligning marketing with product-led growth for self-serve modelsStanding out in a crowded market by focusing on unique brand positioning and flexible use cases for outbound and inboundTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Bruno (08:42) - - Tailoring Growth Marketing Strategies (10:43) - - Freelancer-Generated Content (13:29) - - Launching a Creators Program (19:37) - - Collaborative Product Integration (20:26) - - Quality Over Quantity in Influencer Marketing (24:42) - - SEO Tools Development with Clay and Webflow (29:36) - - How to Craft a Distinctly Unique Brand (30:13) - Customizing Outbound Strategies (33:32) - - Having a Strong Company Vision (37:49) - - In-House SEO vs External Agency Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

In this episode, Dave is joined by Kevin White, Head of Marketing at Common Room, a leading customer intelligence platform for go-to-market teams. Kevin shares insights from his experience helping teams capture and act on digital breadcrumbs to optimize their marketing and sales efforts.Dave and Kevin cover:How to be a good marketer even when you're not the Subject Matter ExpertSignal-based marketing and how it is transforming the buyer’s journey by focusing on the right actions instead of just clicksB2B influencer marketing plays that workTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Kevin (07:24) - - How to Be Good At Marketing When You're Not a Subject Matter Expert (10:02) - - Why You Should Stay Close to Your Customer (17:21) - - How to Manage a Marketing Team with Limited Resources (19:40) - - Eliminating Ineffective Marketing Efforts to Drive Real Results (25:59) - - Signups and Demos Boost From LinkedIn (27:05) - - How to Attribute ROI in Multi-Platform Marketing (31:15) - - Creating Authentic and Valuable Content (35:54) - - Generating Pipeline with Economic Buyer Signals (37:35) - - Increasing Digital Touchpoints (41:33) - - How To Maximize Actionability, Volume, and Conversion Rate (43:19) - - LinkedIn Measurement Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

In this Exit Five Live session, Dave is joined by Natalie Marcotullio, Head of Growth at Navattic, a leading interactive demo platform for B2B marketing. Natalie is an expert in optimizing the B2B buyer journey with innovative demo solutions and data-driven strategies.Dave and Natalie cover:Why accessible, usable, and transparent websites is important in improving the buyer experienceHow to incorporate interactive demos to accelerate the sales cycle and increase conversion ratesPublic pricing and how it affects buyer trust and decision-making in B2B salesTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Natalie (07:27) - - Why Marketing Requires Full Company Alignment (11:54) - - Why You Should Have a Transparent Pricing Page (14:21) - - Improving Sales Automation, Pricing Pages, and Interactive Demos (17:08) - - How To Secure Buy-In (19:23) - - Why Sales Responds Well to Demo-ing Benefits (20:41) - - Commsor Teardown (27:42) - - Andimol Teardown (33:29) - - Directus Teardown (38:08) - - Firstbase Teardown (41:26) - - TeraLeap Teardown (44:29) - - Q&A Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Matthew Carnevale, Marketing Manager at Exit Five sits to talk about our New Marketing Leadership Accelerator Program - an 8 week live program to help you advance your skills and grow your career as a B2B marketing leader.He coversWhy structured learning tracks are a good bet for Exit FiveWhat's included in the program and why you should joinWho will benefit from the acceleratorHow much it costs and where to sign upJoin The Accelerator Here Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave sits down with Ari Yablok, Head of Brand at Island, to share his approach to creating a brand in the cybersecurity space. Ari shares his journey from agency life to leading the brand narrative at Island, where he helped build the concept of the "enterprise browser."Dave and Ari Cover:The key differences between category creation and strategic positioning, and why it matters for B2B marketersThe steps to building a brand story that resonates with both your internal team and your target audienceHow focusing on the last 20% of branding efforts can elevate your company above the competitionTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Ari (05:39) - - Rapidly Growing Enterprise Browser Company Secures $375M in Series D Funding (09:48) - - SEO Strategy vs Branding (15:15) - - How Brand is an Art and a Science (20:30) - - Challenges in Cybersecurity Branding (22:14) - - Early Stage Marketing (30:30) - - Cognitive Behavioral Branding (35:39) - - How Ari Manages Projects with the Brand Team (37:49) - - Comfortable vs. Uncomfortable Approaches to Brand Strategy (42:07) - - What Founders Really Want to Do (47:13) - - Balancing the Day-to-Day with Visionary Goals Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

This week, we're sharing a recording from an Exit Five Live Session with Natalie Marcotullio, Head of Growth and Operations at Navattic. She has a background in SEO and digital marketing for B2B sales and marketing SaaS. Over the years, her focus has shifted to full-funnel marketing, GTM strategy, and improving the digital buyer experience.In this episode, we coverWhy buyers are switching to a more "self-service" model of buyingHow interactive demos stack up against traditional marketing education like videos or adsTips to create a product story with your interactive demo that gets you a 30% CTRThe most common questions marketers have about interactive demosTimestamps(00:00) - - Introduction (11:41) - - Statistics on Product Demos (15:44) - - Gating vs. not gating product demos (18:03) - - Emails and personalized follow-ups post-demo (18:59) - - Where to place the interactive demo on the website (27:55) - - Interactive demos with complex products (32:56) - - How to budget for interactive product demos (35:48) - - Implementing interactive product demos in LinkedIn ads (37:26) - - Platform recommendations for interactive product demos (41:20) - - Use of interactive demos in the sales cycle (42:56) - - Tracking activity and attribution in interactive demos (44:35) - - Personalized demos for each prospect (47:34) - - Post interactive demo conversion best practice (52:16) - - Closing thoughts Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave is joined by Ruth Zive, CMO at LivePerson, who shares her journey in marketing leadership across tech and nonprofits. Ruth talks about aligning marketing and sales teams and navigating enterprise marketing.Ruth and Dave cover:How to align marketing and sales teams by focusing on shared goals and accountability for pipeline outcomesThe best-performing marketing channels for driving enterprise pipeline — including SEO, email, and eventsInbound and outbound strategies in enterprise sales and how they work together to build a successful pipelineTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Ruth (07:05) - - Work-Life Balance as a CMO (21:19) - - How to Balance Cost, Volume, and Conversion Rates in Channel Optimization (23:56) - - Optimizing Enterprise Sales (29:11) - - Why You Need to Align Sales and Marketing Leadership (32:18) - - Budgeting and Measuring Brand Initiatives (35:10) - - How to Plan for Future Revenue (38:38) - - Quarterly and Monthly Marketing Strategy Execution (40:44) - - Creating Weekly Leadership Priorities and a Problem-Solving Document (46:01) - - How To Make a Good Hire Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave is joined by Jared Fuller, Partner and COO of OpenEd.co. Jared talks about his career journey and building businesses in B2B, and shares his expertise in partnerships and the role they play in B2B growth.Jared and Dave cover:How to integrate partner voices into your marketing strategy to create lasting influence and trustShifting from traditional co-marketing to "Nearbound" marketing, leveraging relationships for omnichannel impactUsing partnerships as a growth lever across departments, not just sales and marketingTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Jared (08:27) - - Jared’s Career Journey in B2B (09:10) - - Building a Multi-Million Dollar Business in Less Than a Year (14:47) - - Omnichannel Distribution and Virtual Events (16:30) - - The Story of Selling PartnerHacker (21:44) - - Book Recommendation: The Sumo Advantage (26:38) - - Why You Need to Grow Business Partnerships (29:03) - - The Three Types of Entrepreneurs (33:06) - - SaaS-Native vs Traditional Partner Models (33:53) - - The Role of Ecosystem Officer in Marketing (39:40) - - Why VC Firms Are Embracing Partner-Led Growth Strategies (43:49) - - How To Maximize Reach Through Podcasts, Multimedia, and Partnerships Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave is joined by Shane Murphy, CMO of Webflow, where he is scaling one of the most innovative companies in web technology. Shane shares his insights on integrating growth strategies across self-serve and enterprise funnels, building a powerful brand, and targeting diverse personas.Shane and Dave cover:How Webflow combined its self-serve and enterprise growth teams to streamline acquisitionTargeting broad personas and aligning messaging to meet unique needsBrand building in B2B marketing and leveraging creative campaigns for long-term growthTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Shane (07:56) - - The Three Pillars of Webflow’s Marketing Strategy (11:28) - - How to Sell to Multiple Personas (12:29) - - How to Position Your Solution on Your Website (18:22) - - Combining Brand and Product Marketing Strategies (21:21) - - The Art of Pricing and Packaging (23:36) - - Why You Should Clarify Decision-Making Roles (29:08) - - Managing Yearly Initiatives and High-Level Work Priorities (30:36) - - Implementing Monthly and Weekly Project Check-Ins (34:00) - - Building Trust (37:24) - - Dedicating Yourself Personal Development Time (44:32) - - Finding Your Career Fit Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave sits down with Chelsea Castle, Head of Content and Brand at Close. Chelsea talks about her experience in B2B SaaS and shares how to build impactful content that resonates with your audience.Chelsea and Dave cover:How leveraging internal and cross-functional knowledge can create a content goldmineWhy it is important to repurpose podcast episodes, webinars, and other media into multiple forms of content to maximize their valueStrategies for integrating SEO with authentic, valuable content that resonates with your audience, beyond just ranking for keywordsTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Chelsea (07:15) - - LinkedIn for B2B (14:19) - - Chelsea’s Experience at Chili Piper (18:24) - - Improving Content for Podcasts (21:40) - - How to Maximize Search Impact (22:29) - - Driving Website Traffic Through Brand Content Strategy (28:41) - - Merging Brand and Keyword-Driven Content (32:47) - - Aligning Brand and Content Strategy with Your Goals (34:54) - - New Content Channels for B2B (38:58) - - How to Measure Content Engagement (42:34) - - Skyscraper SEO Content Strategy (43:43) - - How to Grow Using Gated Content (50:42) - - How to Craft a Brand Strategy Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave sits down with Tommy Clark, founder of his own B2B social media agency, Compound, to talk about the ins and outs of social media strategy for B2B companies. Tommy shares his journey from running social for a SaaS company to building his agency and the lessons he’s learned along the way.Tommy and Dave cover:Why LinkedIn is the go-to platform for B2B brands and how to maximize its potentialThe importance of posting consistently to build a strong social presenceHow using video content on LinkedIn can accelerate trust-building with your audienceTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Tommy (08:20) - - Why You Should Focus on One Core Social Channel (10:33) - - LinkedIn Success Using Just Text (12:43) - - How to Get More Audience Data through Posting Frequently (15:48) - - The Best Niche Content for Target Audience Engagement (19:45) - - Why Honesty is Important in Building an Audience and Network (24:54) - - Podcast ROI Beyond Sales and Downloads (25:37) - - Balancing Evergreen and Timely Content (31:19) - - Challenges and Trade-offs of Scheduled Social Media Posts (33:53) - - How to Focus on Client Success (37:58) - - How to Grow Followers and Relevance on LinkedIn (40:50) - - How to Maximize Direct Response Marketing with Gary Vee's Strategy (45:22) - - How to Create Video Content for LinkedIn (49:04) - - Why Diverse Perspectives are Important in Business (50:01) - - How to Use Social Media for Business Growth Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave sits down with Jen Allen-Knuth, founder of DemandJen. Jen shares her insights from her 15+ years in B2B Sales, from managing a quota to building great working relationships with marketing.Jen and Dave cover:Co-creating content with Marketing and Sales that drives better customer engagement and grows your pipelineHow Jen successfully built her audience using video on LinkedIn and leveraged it to start DemandJenHow companies should focus on genuine diversity efforts rather than superficial inclusivityTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Jen (07:06) - - Why You Should Have a Mentor and How To Get One (08:56) - - Sales Experiences and Becoming a Chief Evangelist (12:27) - - Making the Lead from Side Hustle to Full Time (16:54) - - Why Your Career Experiences Should Be Diverse (20:18) - - The Shallow Impact of Diversity Panels (24:25) - - How Jen Built Her Personal Brand (27:46) - - Creating Unscripted Content that’s Still Clear (31:18) - - Being Authentic in Marketing (36:13) - - Don’t Use Templates for Customer Conversations (42:35) - - Strong Relationships Between Product Marketing and Sales (43:22) - - Being Customer-Centric (48:44) - - Why You Need to be a Good Storyteller (50:33) - - Challenges of Data Analysis Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave sits down with Danielle (Head of Content at ExitFive) to share a behind the scenes look at the content strategy driving ExitFive.Dave and Danielle cover:How to hire a “Head of Content” and what mistakes to avoidBehind the scenes of how ExitFive repurposes content (like this podcast!)The fun challenges of going from a solopreneur to team of fiveTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Danielle (06:36) - - Why we hired a Head of Content at ExitFive (09:46) - - How we write our newsletter (13:08) - - Content repurposing at ExitFive (19:40) - - Why you should repeat yourself as a marketer (24:37) - - How to create a culture where everyone can do their best work (27:34) - - Why your team needs a vision to work towards (32:27) - - Balancing Structure and Flexibility Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave sits down with Jenn Herman, an expert in Instagram marketing, who shares the untapped potential of Instagram for B2B marketers. With over a decade of experience, Jenn has become a go-to resource for brands looking to leverage Instagram's vast user base to build brand awareness and foster long-term customer relationships.Jenn and Dave cover:Why Instagram is a goldmine for B2B marketers and how to capitalize on its 2 billion monthly active usersHow to create educational content for Instagram to build trustWhy you need to tailor your content for Instagram and your audience specificallyTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Jenn (06:51) - - Setting Goals for B2B Brands for Instagram (10:28) - - Adapting Content Strategy for Instagram (12:22) - - Focusing on Quality Over Quantity (15:28) - - Using Educational Content to Build Your Brand (20:20) - - TikTok Experts vs Short Form Video Experts (24:47) - - TikTok, Instagram, and Content Unique to Platforms (27:45) - - How to Use Instagram Carousels (31:11) - - How to Use Instagram Highlights (33:42) - - Strategies to Find Underpriced Attention (36:00) - - Aligning Brand Image with Social Media Presence (39:59) - - Understanding Reach Metrics (42:38) - - Revisiting and Optimizing LinkedIn and Instagram Strategies Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave sits down with Knak Co-Founder & CEO Pierce Ujjainwalla, and SubjectLine.com Founder Jay Schwedelson, two experts in the B2B Email Marketing, for a one hour deep dive into what’s working in 2024.They cover:Subject line strategiesDesign do’s and don’tsWhat makes a truly great email in 2024This is a recording of an Exit Five Live session - to follow along with the examples, check out the deck here.Timestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Jay and Pierce (05:51) - - What Personalization Looks Like in 2024 (10:36) - - Using “Friendly Froms” to Increase Open Rates (14:49) - - How the Best Emails Are Designed (18:31) - - How Often Should You Send Emails? (19:35) - - Sending a Killer First Email (26:00) - - Your Reader Needs Context (27:45) - - Use First Person for Better Call-to-Action Buttons (30:43) - - How to Avoid Confusing Content (35:31) - - Why You Need To Focus On Building Trust (37:10) - - Writing for Engagement (44:46) - - Email Branding Trends in 2024 Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave is joined by Emir Atli, the founder and CRO of HockeyStack. Emir shares insights on his strategic content creation on LinkedIn to building a robust attribution platform that helps B2B marketers optimize revenue and understand customer journeys.Emir and Dave cover:How Emir and his team built a LinkedIn audience before launching their product and turned engagement into a strategic advantageUsing custom reporting and attribution to make better B2B marketing decisionsCreating data-driven content with HockeyStack Labs to build trust and establish thought leadershipTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro (05:58) - - Early Days at HockeyStack: Outreach and Launch (13:35) - - Scaling Content Distribution and Launching Podcasts (15:00) - - Transitioning to Event and Field Marketing (20:07) - - Transitioning from CMO to Media Company CEO (27:38) - - How to Build Trust at Scale (31:32) - - Content Marketing Benchmarks and Data (34:16) - - Sample Sizes, Metrics, and Context in Research Reporting (42:41) - - How to Actually Use Reporting Tools (43:58) - - Creating Custom Reports and Templates (46:38) - - Tracking Traditional Touch Points Digitally Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave is joined by Eliana Atia and Arielle Gordis from Monday.com, who drive the content strategy that powers one of the most recognizable brands in SaaS. Eliana, a seasoned content leader, shares how Monday.com’s content team evolved from a small, reactive unit into a strategic powerhouse. Arielle, who leads the thought leadership initiatives, reveals the secrets behind the wildly successful "Monday Insights" newsletter which has 3.7 million subscribers.They cover:How the content team at Monday.com acts as a strategic partner to departments across the businessThe unique "guild" structure they use that allows content managers to stay deeply integrated within various teams while maintaining a unified content strategyHow they use audience engagement and feedback to make better contentTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro (08:42) - - Content Strategy as a Career (11:14) - - Monday.com’s Messaging Strategy (13:01) - - Transitioning to a Multi-Product Brand (17:49) - - Using Content to Create Trust (26:35) - - How They Create Sales Enablement Content for Enterprise Accounts (29:17) - - Monday's Value-Based Thought Leadership Strategy (32:57) - - Behind the Scenes: Working With a Cartoonist (39:06) - - How Their Newsletter Has a 30% Open Rate (41:17) - - Getting Buy-in For Thought Leadership (43:06) - - Boosting Open Rates with Quality Sender Names (49:25) - - Transforming Job Stress into Meaningful Leadership (50:50) - - Successful Idea Testing on a Smaller Scale Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave sits down with Adam Goyette, founder of Growth Union and a former marketing leader at G2 and Help Scout. Adam shares his insights from leading growth at top B2B companies to launching his own agency that helps startups scale by integrating holistic growth strategies.Adam and Dave cover:How marketing can drive demos that aren’t qualified and how to fix itWhy MQLs aren’t efficient incentives for marketing teamsHow to use feedback from Sales to create better marketing contentTimestamps(00:00) - - Why Working With B2B Agencies is So Hard (07:39) - - Marketing in 2024 (11:35) - - How to Actually Test Your Marketing Campaigns (13:40) - - Organizing Your Marketing Team (16:35) - - Setting Aside Budget For Experiments (24:25) - - How to Ask Qualifying Questions (25:46) - - Balancing Brand Building and Conversion (30:21) - - Advocating for Marketing Strategy Internally (35:15) - - Using Feedback from Sales to Create Content (40:56) - - How to Test and Iterate Quickly (49:06) - - Adwords Keyword Optimization and Ad Copy (50:15) - - Marketing Leadership in SaaS at a Scale Up Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave is joined by Zach Roberts, founder of Break into Product Marketing, and Natalie Taylor, Head of Marketing at Capsule to share. their experiences and strategies for successful product launches in B2B.Zach and Natalie cover:How to build a buyer-focused product launch by understanding and addressing your buyer’s key challengesThe power of video content in creating engaging and effective product launch campaignsBest practices for collaborating with sales teams to develop impactful sales enablement materialsTimestamps(00:00) - - Intros (06:57) - - How to Launch Without the Product (09:32) - - Refining Insights for Successful Product Launches (15:50) - - Content and Privacy Regulations (17:04) - - Crafting a Buyer-Centric Positioning Strategy (21:16) - - Strategic Startup Audio Feature Launch Approach (28:02) - - Working with B2B Influencers (33:19) - - How to Approach Sponsored Content in B2B (37:17) - - Measuring Engagement on LinkedIn (44:02) - - Communicating with Sales (52:20) - - Improving Buy-In and Time Management for Launch Success Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave is joined by Natalie Taylor, Head of Marketing at Capsule. Natalie shares her journey from getting laid off to finding her dream job through LinkedIn, and how she’s now building meaningful customer relationships through intimate in-person events at Capsule.Natalie and Dave cover:The “intimate dinner strategy” Natalie is running and how it drives growth for CapsuleChallenges to measuring influencer campaigns in B2B and her approach to choosing who to work withHer step-by-step process to a successful product launchTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro (06:49) - - Natalie’s Marketing Career Path (10:56) - - Loving the Product Makes You A Better Marketer (13:50) - - Product Launches and Growth (15:49) - - Keys to a Successful Video Strategy (18:52) - - Coordinating Launch Projects with Marketing and Product (24:36) - - B2B Influencer Outreach (29:48) - - Influencer Measurement Challenges (34:53) - - Curated Dinner Strategy (38:28) - - Lead Generation and Outreach with Apollo (48:27) - - Transitioning to Product-Led Growth (53:47) - - Working with the CEO Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave sits down with Max Van Den Ingh, founder and CEO of Unmuted, a B2B SaaS marketing agency based in Amsterdam. Max shares his insights from his background in Sales, sharing how his approach of building relationships has translated to a successful marketing agency.Max and Dave Cover:His high-touch approach to entering new markets by focusing on understanding the landscape and building relationshipsChallenges and advice for hiring in international marketsThe shift towards scrappier, more authentic content in B2B Marketing and the case against multiple layers of content approvalTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro (06:54) - - The US Approach to Marketing (09:42) - - Max’s Initial Agency Skepticism (12:53) - - B2B Marketing Strategies for Dutch Tech Companies (14:52) - - Challenges of Expanding SaaS in EU Markets (19:08) - - How to Effectively Use Local Expertise (23:11) - - Building Your First Customer Playbook (26:55) - - Creating a Long-Term Strategy for New Markets (29:35) - - Branding and International Expansion (35:52) - - Challenges of Hierarchy in Large Organizations (37:18) - - Multiple Layers of Approval and In-authentic Content Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave is joined by Kara Hardin, a Registered Psychotherapist and Lead Executive Officer at The Practice Lab. Kara specializes in the complicated ways that mental health drives performance and how it shows up at work. Drawing from her extensive experience, Kara provides actionable advice for B2B marketers to enhance their professional lives.Kara and Dave cover:How adapting to your team’s preferences can lead to better collaboration, higher productivity, and a more harmonious work environmentHow to view change as a natural and positive part of business strategy, rather than something to fearPractical advice on how to maintain meaningful connection and effective communication in remote work environmentsTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro (07:36) - - Learning to Embrace Change (10:23) - - Connection at Work (13:46) - - The Loneliness of Remote Work (17:07) - - Balancing Remote Work and Relationships (21:44) - - Aligning Work with Values (23:40) - - Creating Your Own Career Path (28:41) - - How Self-Awareness Helps Make Better Decisions (30:18) - - Discovering Your Personal Work Preferences (39:16) - - Recognizing Self-worth in Between Jobs (40:59) - - Self-Awareness in Communication (43:59) - - The Work of Work: Understanding Yourself and Others (48:53) - - Kara’s Framework for Self-Reflection and Interaction (50:44) - - Creating Emotional Guardrails (53:42) - - Combatting the Urgency Impulse at Work (58:21) - - Improve Work by Slowing Down Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

In this episode, Dave is joined by Kris Rudeegraap, CEO of Sendoso, a leading platform for direct mail and gifting in B2B marketing. Kris is an expert in using creative direct mail tactics and AI to create profitable marketing campaigns. He has helped numerous companies enhance their engagement and conversion rates through thoughtful and personalized gifting strategies.Dave and Kris cover:The differences between Growth Ops and Revenue Ops (and where each is most effective)Must-try direct mail strategies that go above and beyond to create memorable customer experiencesHow companies have created automated programmatic outbound strategies using AI, including tools and techniques that enhance efficiency and personalizationTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro (07:36) - - Navigating the SaaS Market: CEO Perspective & New Media Ventures (10:20) - - Rethinking Outbound in 2024 (13:57) - - How to Actually Use AI in Outbound (17:24) - - Early Adoption of AI (18:13) - - Direct Mail Gifting and AI (23:34) - - Avoiding Unwanted Gifts (26:07) - - Outsourcing with Automation (30:49) - - Sales Team as Consultants for Prospects (34:18) - - Tools and Data We’re Using (36:50) - - Effective Prospecting with Personalization and AI (39:10) - - Using AI to Stand Out Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave is joined by Amanda Goetz, a 2x founder, 3x CMO, and the author behind the popular weekly newsletter Life's A Game. Amanda shares her expertise in personal and professional growth, brand building, and content creation.Amanda and Dave cover:How Amanda transformed her LinkedIn strategy to grow her following and engagementThe impact of personal branding on social media and its role in business growthCreating a feedback loop to refine and improve content strategyTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro (08:14) - - How to Use LinkedIn Video (11:42) - - Shifting from Twitter to LinkedIn (15:28) - - Developing a Clearer Target Market and Products (16:11) - - Building Sustainable Momentum Amid Burnout: A CMO's Perspective (20:32) - - Why Your Content Strategy Must Be Focused (26:15) - - The Brand Pyramid (27:10) - - The Emotion Behind Branding (30:40) - - People Are What Matter In Branding Success (36:18) - - The Growing Creator Economy vs. Traditional Corporations (37:36) - - Creating Emotional Brand Connections for Growth Marketing (42:08) - - How Amanda Became a Fractional CMO (44:42) - - Why Amanda Looks to Alex Lieberman for Inspiration Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave sits down with Adam Robinson, CEO of Retention.com, to go behind the scenes on how he creates so much killer content on LinkedIn and has used his platform to scale not one, but two start ups to over $1m in ARR.Adam and Dave cover:Adam’s focus on creating engaging content that’s authenticUsing LinkedIn’s quick feedback loops to refine your marketing strategyThe patience required to achieve successful content market fitTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro (08:04) - - The Four Steps to the Epiphany (11:43) - - Inbound-Led Outbound (12:31) - - Getting your Podcast and LinkedIn Content in Sync (16:37) - - How Adam Manages Being CEO of Two Startups (19:06) - - What Happens When You Build a Dedicated Audience (22:50) - - Handling the Pressure of Having a Big Audience (27:30) - - Achieving Content Market Fit with a Ghostwriter (32:51) - - Using LinkedIn Templates (34:05) - - Benefits and Drawbacks of Using a Ghostwriter (38:40) - - Why Engagement is the Most Important Part Of Your Content Strategy (41:01) - - Getting Creative to Grow (43:47) - - Behind the Scenes of How Adam Handles Posting on LinkedIn (46:15) - - The Relationship Between Business and Personal Growth Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave sits down with Kait Stephens, co-founder and CEO of Brij, and Brad Zomick, Brij’s former Head of Marketing turned LinkedIn consultant. Dave named Kait the “Queen of Omni-Channel” for good reason — she turned LinkedIn into a powerhouse for her brand to drive leads and revenue for her company, growing to over 15k followers.Kait, Brad, and Dave cover:Turning LinkedIn into a lead generation machine and building a strong founder brand.The nitty-gritty of creating authentic, engaging content that resonates with your audience.Crafting a content flywheel that keeps your audience hooked and continuously brings in new leads.Timestamps(00:00) - - Intro (07:25) - - Why LinkedIn is a Goldmine for B2B (12:03) - - Getting Familiar with Your Audience (14:18) - - Challenges of Getting Started (16:09) - - Most Common Mistakes Made with LinkedIn (21:41) - - Founder's Content Creation: Behind the Scenes (25:23) - - Content Scheduling on LinkedIn (28:48) - - How Founders Should Manage LinkedIn Engagement (32:32) - - Metrics Behind the Founder Brand on LinkedIn (35:02) - - Inside Look at the Real Business Impacts (38:48) - - Why You Should Overcome Your Reluctance to LinkedIn (41:59) - - Maximize Content Impact with an Evergreen Strategy Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave and Matt (Marketing Manager at Exit Five) go behind the scenes of our best live session (don’t call it a webinar!) yet. Matt also shares his insights on targeting multiple personas and generating compelling content ideas.Matt and Dave cover:Creating content for multiple personas without losing your brand’s voiceSecrets to engaging webinars that people actually want to attendTop tools and strategies for generating content ideas that resonateTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro (08:20) - - Creating Content that Gets Engagement (09:23) - - Making Webinar Content Relevant (12:18) - - Webinar Content Feedback Loops (16:02) - - Using Incentive to Drive Registration (20:04) - - When to Use Niche Formats: Understanding Your Audience (26:11) - - How to Use Reddit for Content Ideas (27:43) - - Using Popular Community Posts for Onboarding (29:57) - - How We Do Audience Research Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave is joined by Tas Bober, a B2B digital marketing strategist and top voice on LinkedIn. Tas shares her experience of growing to over 10k followers on LinkedIn, starting by just posting for fun — and how it grew into a thriving niche consulting business.Tas is an expert on landing pages and websites, and she helps marketing teams at companies like Calendly drive more pipeline.Tas and Dave cover:How she built her audience on LinkedIn and turned it into a niche consulting businessCreating problem-aware landing pages that convert and drive pipelineEvaluating overall marketing metrics rather than just channel-specific ROITimestamps(00:00) - - Intro (08:19) - Getting Started Publishing on LinkedIn (11:42) - - Niching Down on LinkedIn to Grow Faster (13:28) - - Getting Laid Off and Going All In On Consulting (17:00) - - The Power of Networking Calls (19:43) - - Attracting More Targeted Clients by Niching Down (22:58) - - Tailoring Landing Page Tactics for B2B and B2C Marketing (29:04) - - Optimizing Landing Pages and Creative for Search Ads (30:12) - - Utilizing Paid Traffic for B2B (35:01) - - Measuring Success Beyond Just Conversions (38:20) - - Making Landing Pages Customer Centric (40:08) - - Why Founders Need to Be On Social Media (42:39) - - Navigating Long Sales Cycles and Marketing Impact (46:59) - - Attribution Should Align With How Buyers Buy (49:07) - - Digital Ads and Landing Page Success Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave and Dan (COO at Exit Five) go behind the scenes of the recent rebrand of Exit Five with Eli Rubel, Founder and CEO of No Boring Design. Eli shares his candid feedback on where partnerships with agencies and marketing teams often go wrong and the challenges of creative work.They also cover:How to create a killer creative briefHow well-crafted design can significantly drive conversion ratesThe step-by-step process we followed for a successful rebrandTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro to No Boring Design and Eli (08:37) - - Where Agency Partnerships Go Wrong (11:18) - - Why You Need to Be Blunt About Your Needs (14:56) - - Using Chat GPT and AI to Create an Effective Brief (16:59) - - The True Impact of Design (23:57) - - How to Use Organic Social Media for Advertising (25:33) - - Why Visual Identity Matters to Brand (30:07) - - Nailing your Branding Guidelines (32:47) - - Why You Need to Experiment with Creative (36:42) - - How to Use Design Resources to Create Leverage (37:30) - - Getting Work Done: How to Delegate Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Anthony is one of the nine LinkedIn Certified Marketing Experts in North America. He’s also the Managing Director of Speedwork, a B2B LinkedIn Marketing Agency, and hosts the LinkedIn Ads Radio Podcast.He and Dave discussLinkedIn Ad Creative & Consistent BrandingThought Leader Ads & Organic ReachNiche Audiences & Custom ContentNurture CampaignsExpert LinkedIn Ads TipsTimestamps(00:00) - Intro to Anthony Blatner (08:16) - Focusing on LinkedIn and Future Expansion (11:41) - Effective Social Media Advertising and Organic Content (15:05) - The Overlooked Importance of Creative Content in Advertising (17:13) - Targeting Personas with Top-of-Funnel Ads (22:28) - Creating Unique and Targeted Content: Pros and Cons (23:44) - Lead Generation Strategies for Small Budgets (27:57) - Effective Funnel Strategies for Small Budgets (31:26) - Using Paid Advertising and Lead Magnets to Grow Your Newsletter (36:19) - Building Long-Term Memory with Consistent Branding in Marketing (38:40) - The Power of Narrow Focus for Audience Growth (41:47) - Content Planning Based on Sales Cycle Length (43:36) - Connecting with Anthony Blattner on LinkedIn Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

This episode is from a fireside chat Dave did with Bill Macaitis, former CMO at Slack and Zendesk during G2's 2023 "Reach" event on how to build a brand in an economic downturn. We cover what is a brand, what is brand marketing, 8 ways to fit a brand into a marketing strategy, creating a brand centric product, and examples from Bill's work over the years. Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave is joined by Christopher Rack, CEO of pharosIQ. Chris is a seasoned leader with a track record of driving remarkable growth. With experience spanning individual contributions to executive leadership, he's led four sales organizations to achieve 10x growth in just 2-3 years. His leadership ethos prioritizes building robust processes and fostering winning cultures rooted in a human-first approach.They discussWhy alignment between marketing and sales is critical for ABM successHow to prove the ROI of our ABM effortsExecuting ABM with minimal resourcesPlus, they take burning questions live from hundreds of B2B marketers and answer them for you.Timestamps(00:00) - - Audience Interaction and Topic Relevance (07:32) - - The Unpredictability of ABM Revenue (11:00) - - The Nature of ABM: Strategy over Product (12:29) - - ABM Misconceptions: Display Advertising vs. Targeting (17:47) - - The Importance of Identifying the Right Target Account List (22:00) - - One-to-One and One-to-Few Strategy (23:50) - - Automation Tools and Direct Outreach for Revenue Generation (27:37) - - Balancing ROI Expectations in Marketing Strategy (33:03) - - Critical Questions for Evaluating Intent Data and Proving ABM Success (36:56) - - Transitioning to ABM as Startup Sales and Marketing Teams Grow (38:09) - - Aligning Sales and Marketing Efforts (43:34) - - Re-engaging Churned Customers with Product Updates and Honest Feedback (44:31) - - Effective Strategies for Re-engaging Churned Customers (47:45) - - Evaluating Account-Based Marketing (ABM) Success" Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave shares the 16 lessons he wishes he knew as a first-time marketing leader, going from marketing manager to CMO in four years. This is a recording from Metadata's DEMAND 2022 virtual event in October 2022. The lessons include:1. Forget acronyms2. The story is the strategy3. Think hard about “offers”4. Push your team past incremental thinking5. Get on the same page as sales6. Don’t “be” finance and ops...partner with them7. Master internal communication8. Articulate the strategy9. Think short-and-long-term10. Understand what the CEO cares about11. Make hiring your job, not a side project12. Create your own momentum13. Your job is to get the job done14. But do the job first, before hiring externally15. Get comfortable making bets without perfect data16. Spend the budget (all of it) Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave is joined by John Short, Founder & CEO of Compound Growth Marketing. John spent a decade as a B2B SaaS marketer at LogMeIn, Yesware, and Workable before starting his own full-funnel marketing agency in 2018. John is focused on helping companies find the right strategy in order to grow, as opposed to just blindly picking from a menu of marketing tactics. His company helps B2B marketers with everything from infrastructure (marketing ops and analytics) to customer acquisition, funnel optimization, and scaling growth.They discussGrowth by acquisitionsTimeless marketing principlesEvolving dynamic between sales and marketingThe impact of AI on SEOBuilding a strong company narrativeTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro and disclaimers (06:27) - - Seeking Strategic Guidance (10:20) - - Embracing Ten X Growth Mindset (15:13) - - Overcoming Hurdles in Business (16:11) - - Balancing Work and Family Commitments (21:09) - - Evolving Search Results and AI Generative Models (25:02) - - Understanding Golf Physics and AI Research (29:39) - - Search Engine Trust and Accuracy (30:39) - - Shifting Landscapes: SEO, Cookies, and Timeless Principles (36:38) - - Strategic Approach to Social Media Advertising (38:31) - - Predictive User Scores and Behavior Analysis (42:04) - - Navigating Growth and Expansion (45:00) - - Aligning Sales and Marketing for Success (48:12) - - The Power of Company Vision: Lessons from Drift (51:24) - - Strategic Alignment Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave and Dan (COO at Exit Five) share the behind the scenes on Exit Five's growth. They coverHow we sold out Drive in 24 hoursWhy we used a waitlist strategyHow much Exit Five has grownHow much we're investing into the business this yearSolopreneurshipPS. We’d love to get your questions and feature you on this podcast. Have a hot topic, a burning question, or just want to say hi? Send us a voicenote at [email protected], and we will feature you on the show. Emails are fine too, but a voice note might get you on the pod :)Timestamps(00:00) - - Intro (08:05) - - The Power of Collaboration (10:53) - - The Exit Five Journey (14:06) - - The Drive Event (14:59) - - Launching Our Event (21:16) - - The Success Behind Our Event (22:54) - - Brand Connection and Storytelling (27:21) - - The Power of Building an Audience (29:26) - - Content and Audience Strategy Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave is joined by Greg Isenberg. Greg is the CEO & Co-Founder of Late Checkout. Greg has started and sold 3 companies in the community space and has now invested in 50+ community-based businesses.They discussWhy you need to build an engaged community before a paid membershipThe importance of niching down The difference between audience and communityThe tribe frameworkPersonal brand and community performanceTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro (05:53) - - Building a Community on Patreon (09:24) - - The Power of Niche Communities (12:27) - - From Facebook Group to Profitable Membership (15:49) - - The Impact of Exclusive Communities on Social Media (19:17) - - The Illusion of Social Media Engagement (25:28) - - Building a Personal Brand for Business (28:39) - - Nurturing a Successful Community Within a Company (29:27) - - Community Monetization: Pricing and Value in B2B Memberships (33:07) - - The Dangers of Free Services (38:33) - - Transformation of Twitter (42:25) - - Navigating Social Media Engagement (43:42) - - Exploring New Frameworks and Community Engagement Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Anthony Kennada is is co-founder & CEO of AudiencePlus, a company building software, content, and community to help businesses become media companies. Prior to founding AudiencePlus, Anthony served as the CMO of Hopin, Front, and Gainsight.In this episode, they discussWhat it means to be a media companyBuilding an audience from scratchWhy building community is important in B2B marketingTimestamps(00:00) - - Introduction and context from Anthony Kennada. (07:15) - - Definition and evolution of becoming a media company. (12:15) - - The importance of building an audience and brand-oriented marketing. (17:15) - - Discussion on content production and budget constraints. (22:15) - - Community building and its significance in B2B marketing. (28:36) - - The relationship between audience and community in marketing strategies. (33:36) - - Efficient growth strategies and the role of organic growth. (38:36) - - Building an audience from scratch and effective distribution strategies. (43:36) - - Overcoming challenges in the current economic climate. (48:36) - - Reflection on past marketing mistakes and learning from them. (53:36) - - Discussion on category creation and its impact. Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave is joined by Pranav Piyush, CEO and Co-Founder of Paramark. With 15 years of growth and marketing experience at companies like PayPal, Dropbox, Adobe, and BILL, Pranav is convinced that CMOs deserve better measurement solutions. That’s why he started Paramark, a tool to help Marketing leaders become more confident about how to invest their budget for maximum returns across all types of marketing—brand and performance, online and offline, paid and owned.They discuss things likeWhy marketing attribution is hardThe essential elements of predicting marketing resultsWhich leading indicators to follow and how to tie them to revenueCorrelation between reach metrics (like community members and subscriptions) and output metricsHow to use and measure LinkedIn in B2B Timestamps(00:00) - - Intro to Pranav and Paramark (05:43) - - Identifying Market Needs through Research (10:49) - - Broken Measurement in Marketing (15:45) - - Importance of Email Audience Engagement (19:23) - - Audience Tracking (20:07) - - Technology's role in analyzing marketing metrics (27:02) - - Experimentation and Failure (28:26) - - Marrying Ideas and Measurement in Marketing (33:13) - - Connections for Startup Growth (36:15) - - Executing Ideas in Marketing Leadership (43:05) - - Focusing on Profitability and Product Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave and Matt (Marketing Manager at Exit Five) share this week's most popular topics, lessons, and learnings across the community. They coverSelling out our in-person event ticketsStrategies for getting more online reviewsHow to think through structuring your marketing teamLive chat on websitesPS. We’d love to get your questions and feature you on this podcast. Have a hot topic, a burning question, or just want to say hi? Send us a voicenote at [email protected], and we will feature you on the show. Emails are fine too, but a voice note might get you on the pod :)Timestamps(00:00) - Intro and in-person event craziness (07:17) - Review Management Strategies (10:44) - Integrating Reviews into Marketing (13:04) - Team Composition and Hiring Strategies (19:28) - Leadership and Feedback Dynamics (22:52) - Balancing Depth and Oversight (24:22) - Chatbots and AI in Customer Interaction (28:35) - Evaluating Marketing Tools and Strategies (31:20) - Future Opportunities and Reflections Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more

Dave is joined by Jason Lemkin. Jason is the founder of SaaStr, the world’s largest community of SaaS executives, founders, and entrepreneurs. Before SaaStr, Jason founded EchoSign, which was sold to Adobe in 2011. They discussWhy Jason started SaaStrWhat makes a great VP of Marketing in SaaS and how to hire oneHow tech and SaaS have changed since 2020CROs vs CMOsImportance of alignment between the CEO and marketing teamTimestamps(00:00) - - Intro (06:15) - - Understanding the Importance of Revenue Goals (09:39) - - Evolving Motivations and Changing Perspectives (13:45) - - From Solopreneur to Founder: The Journey of Exit Five (17:41) - - The Challenge of Transitioning from Solopreneurship (19:40) - - Insights into Jason's Content Creation Process (22:24) - - Efficiency in writing: a five-minute rule (27:32) - - LinkedIn: A Haven for Text-Based Writers (28:58) - - LinkedIn's Good Community and Marketing Potential (33:04) - - Importance of Building Relationships in Business (37:49) - - Marketing Essentials: Brand, Field, Demand, Growth (40:26) - - Finding the Right Fit: Aligning Marketing Roles with Company Vision (43:31) - - Finding Alignment: The Role of Marketing in Company Leadership (47:43) - - CROs and Marketing (50:32) - - Balancing Heads: Sales, Marketing, and Post-Sales in SaaS Leadership (53:52) - - Event Planning (55:47) - - SaaStr: Connecting Founders and Revenue Professionals Join 50,0000 people who get Dave's Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterLearn more about Exit Five's private marketing community: https://www.exitfive.com/***Brought to you by:Customer.io - An AI powered customer engagement platform that help marketers turn first-party data into engaging customer experiences across email, SMS, and push. Learn more at customer.io/exitfive.Consensus - An AI-powered interactive demo platform that lets you put personalized, self-serve demos on your site to turn anonymous researchers into high-intent leads. Learn more at goconsensus.com/exitfive.Knak - A no-code, campaign creation platform that lets you go from idea to on-brand email and landing pages in minutes, using AI where it actually matters. Learn more at knak.com/exitfive.Convertr - The enterprise lead data management platform that sits between your lead sources and your CRM, automatically validating, enriching, and standardizing every lead before it touches your systems. Check them out at convertr.io/exitfive.***Thanks to my friends at hatch.fm for producing this episode and handling all of the Exit Five podcast production.They give you unlimited podcast editing and strategy for your B2B podcast.Get unlimited podcast editing and on-demand strategy for one low monthly cost. Just upload your episode, and they take care of the rest.Visit hatch.fm to learn more