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The Dark Zone: An Adventure Racing Podcast

The Dark Zone: An Adventure Racing Podcast

Join us in here for the times you can't be out there

Brian Gatens

175 episodesEN

Show overview

The Dark Zone: An Adventure Racing Podcast has been publishing since 2021, and across the 5 years since has built a catalogue of 175 episodes. That works out to roughly 170 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a fortnightly cadence, with the show now in its 4th season.

Episodes typically run an hour to ninety minutes — most land between 50 min and 1h 7m — and the run-time is fairly consistent across the catalogue. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Sports show.

The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 2 weeks ago, with 15 episodes already out so far this year. The busiest year was 2025, with 44 episodes published. Published by Brian Gatens.

Episodes
175
Running
2021–2026 · 5y
Median length
1h 1m
Cadence
Fortnightly

From the publisher

The Dark Zone: An Adventure Racing Podcast welcomes you to our world. Come hear from racers, race directors, fans of AR, and everyone in between. The podcast's out there, you pick it up, it's yours, you don't, I got no sympathy for you. (as inspired by Glengarry Glenn Ross)

Latest Episodes

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TDZ 161 - The Endless Mountains Podcast, Episode 2: The Ring Goes South

Jun 23, 202620 min

TDZ 160 - The Endless Mountains Podcast, Episode 1: A Long Expected Party

Jun 17, 202634 min

TDZ 159 - Introducing: The Endless Mountains Podcast

Jun 15, 20269 min

TDZ 158 - One Degree Racing — Adventure Racing, Friendship, and The Cerberus

Jun 12, 20261h 5m

TDZ 157 - Team Overconfident and Undertrained: Overdelivering on Fun

Jun 6, 202652 min

TDZ 156 - Adam Rose: Bimbache Morocco: A Rough Race, A Grand Adventure

May 29, 20261h 4m

TDZ 155 - Adventure Racer Marina LeGree of Ascend Athletics and Her 134 Teammates

May 21, 202655 min

TDZ 154.5 - Remembering Shelley Johannesen, Race and Event Updates, and a Podcast Takeover in June

May 19, 202617 min

TDZ 154 - Welcome to the Other Pitt: 3ROC's Pay What You Want AR in Pittsburgh

Apr 17, 202652 min

TDZ 153 — Same DNA, Different Discipline: Ultra Cycling Comes to The Dark Zone

Apr 13, 20261h 0m

S3 Ep 167TDZ 152 - Greg Callas: A California AR Gold Rush and Growing the Sport Out West

Adventure racing has always depended on people who love the sport enough to build it. Greg Callas is one of those people.Greg is the new president of Gold Rush Adventure Racing, a nonprofit based in the foothills of the Sierras with a two-decade history on the West Coast. He inherited a legacy, and a responsibility, from the founders who built it, and he's determined to carry both forward.But this episode isn't just about race directing. It's about a guy who found adventure racing the way a lot of us did, by doing something that looked a lot like it before he even knew it existed, and then couldn't stop. From his first race at Mammoth, where his team basically set up a picnic at the transition area, to a strong finish at Raid the Rockies, to lantern rouge honors at Expedition Oregon two years running, and then greater success, Greg has learned the sport the hard way and applied every lesson.In this conversation, we talk about what it takes to grow a community, what a Bay Area sea kayaking club taught him about onboarding new athletes, and why he turned a 24-hour race into a 12-hour race — and why that might have been the right call all along. We also get into the Gold Rush Adventure Challenge, coming September 19th to the Marin Headlands, with a paddle to Angel Island, views of the Golden Gate, and yes — a cannon.The sport grows when people like Greg show up. This one's worth your time.Shownotes:Gold Rush Adventure Racing - https://www.goldrushadventureracing.com/Greg Callas Website - https://www.outdoorgoyo.com/Sponsor Links:Adventure Addicts Racing's Brake The Habit AR - https://www.adventureaddictsracing.com/copy-of-brake-the-habit-1Shenandoah Epic Adventure Race - https://www.adventureenablers.com/Photographer Nic Wynia - https://www.storycityfilms.com/new-gallery-3

Apr 1, 20261h 6m

S3 Ep 166TDZ 151 - Kate and Cliff White: Building an AR Strong Machine in New England

Kate and Cliff White of Strong Machine Adventure Racing have been a fixture in the adventure racing community for over a decade — first as racers stumbling toward the back of the pack at a winter race in Wisconsin, and eventually as two respected race directors on the East Coast. The path between those two points is anything but straight.In this episode, we trace that journey: how a family machinery business became a team name, how a land trust in Maine became their first race venue, and how the simple act of showing up in a state with almost no races led them to build the ones they wanted to exist. Along the way, they've developed the Strong Machine Development Squad — a structured mentorship program designed to solve what Cliff identifies as the sport's most stubborn barrier to entry: people who want to race but can't find anyone to race with.We also talk about the big races. Cliff on going unofficial in South Africa after a teammate's injury on day one, and still grinding through nine more days. Kate on a moment in Spain when she asked her teammates to leave her at a river crossing — and what it meant to come out the other side of that.And we talk honestly about the sport's ceiling. Adventure racing will never be mainstream. Kate and Cliff have made their peace with that. What they haven't made peace with is the wide audience of endurance athletes who have yet to dip their toes into the AR water. Bringing them into the sport is the work they're still doing.Shownotes:https://www.mainesummerar.com/Sponsor Links:Adventure Addicts Racing's Brake The Habit AR - https://www.adventureaddictsracing.com/copy-of-brake-the-habit-1Shenandoah Epic Adventure Race - https://www.adventureenablers.com/

Mar 9, 202657 min

S3 Ep 165Episode 150 - Dan Brannen: Endurance Legend and The Best First Teammate A Guy Could Ask For

Episode 150 of The Dark Zone: An Adventure Racing Podcast honors a milestone with someone who embodies the long arc of endurance sport — Dan Brannen.Dan was my first adventure racing teammate back in 2011, when I was just breaking into the sport. But long before that, he had already built a remarkable career across decades of endurance.A winner of the legendary JFK 50 Mile, former American record holder in the 48-hour run, multi-day competitor, and inductee into the American Ultra Running Hall of Fame, Dan’s legacy extends far beyond his race results. He played a pivotal role in organizing and legitimizing ultra running at both the national and international levels, helping establish championship pathways and governance structures that still shape the sport today.In this conversation, we explore:How influential coaches shaped his early running careerThe explosion of the American running boom in the 1970sMulti-day racing on indoor tracks and the psychology of going longWhy adventure racing in his 50s opened up a new dimension of challengeWhat separates strong teammates from fragile onesThe concept of “discomfort management” — and why endurance success isn’t about absorbing pain, but navigating it intelligentlyAt 72, Dan continues to race, design courses, and shape the adventure racing community through events like the Fool’s Rogaine. His story is one of patience, persistence, humility, and quiet leadership.Episode 150 is both personal and historical — a tribute to a first teammate and to a man who has helped build multiple sports from the inside out.Sponsor Links:Adventure Addicts Racing's Brake The Habit AR - https://www.adventureaddictsracing.com/copy-of-brake-the-habit-1Shenandoah Epic Adventure Race - https://www.adventureenablers.com/

Feb 22, 20261h 5m

S3 Ep 164TDZ & The 2026 Katie Cookie Ride to benefit St. Jude Children’s Hospital

For almost 150 episodes, The Dark Zone has been free — stories of grit, uncertainty, partnership, and the long road through the unknown.Now we’re turning those miles into something bigger.From March 19–22, 2026, Bob Mina and Brian Gatens of TDZ will attempt to ride 400 miles from West Chester, Pennsylvania to The College of William & Mary in Williamsburg, Virginia. No guarantees. No shortcuts. Just four days and a whole lot of pedaling.We’re calling it Katie’s Cookie Ride.For years, Bob has baked cookies for his daughter Katie. This time, he’s baking a batch and carrying them 400 miles south — turning a simple family tradition into a fundraiser for St. Jude Children's Research Hospital.At St. Jude, families never receive a bill for treatment. Every dollar raised goes directly to their lifesaving mission. Bob and Brian are covering the full cost of the ride themselves.If The Dark Zone has ever kept you company on a long run, a long drive, or a long trainer session — this is a chance to pay it forward.Live tracking for the ride is being generously provided by Mark Harris of Enabled Tracking, and we’ll be updating along the way.Donation Link Here

Feb 19, 20263 min

S3 Ep 163Episode 149.5 - Crafting Adventure @ Mechukha — India’s ARWS Expedition

In this episode of The Dark Zone: An Adventure Racing Podcast, we sit down with the team behind a new and exciting expedition-length race — Ajita Madan and Sayeesha Kirani, founders of NthAdventure, alongside Heidi Muller and Stephan Muller, veteran adventure race directors. Together they unpack the story, strategy, and heart behind Adventure @ Mechukha, India’s first Adventure Racing World Series Qualifier.Recorded against a backdrop of jaw-dropping landscapes and months of race build-up, our conversation explores what it takes to bring a world-class 450 km expedition to life in one of the most remote corners of Arunachal Pradesh. The team shares the logistics and cultural collaborations that define the race — from engaging local communities and navigating rugged borderland terrain to designing a course that tests the mettle of any expedition-caliber team. Ajita and Sayeesha reflect on their decade-long journey growing adventure racing in India — from regional events to hosting international qualifiers — while Heidi and Stephan offer global perspective on why Mechukha is a pivotal new chapter for international adventure racing. Listeners gain insight into the philosophy of expedition race design, the importance of place and people in endurance sport, and what this race means for future athletes eager to chart their own path to the Adventure Racing World Championship. Whether you’re a seasoned adventure racer or new to the sport’s expansive world, this episode is a deep dive into the passion, planning, and community that fuel adventure racing at its highest level — from the Himalayan borderlands to the global stage.Shownotes:Nth Adventure Site - https://www.nthadventure.com/adventureatmechukhaARWS Site - https://arworldseries.com/races/424Sponsor Links:Nuataaq Carabiner Hydration Bottle - www.nuataaq.comShenandoah Epic Adventure Race - https://www.adventureenablers.com/

Feb 8, 202658 min

S3 Ep 162Episode 149 - When It Clicked: The Wonky Donkeys and The Legend Adventure Race

You’re listening to The Dark Zone: An Adventure Racing Podcast, where we try to understand how adventure races really play out—over long distances, under fatigue, and within the relationships that make or break a team.Today’s episode is a conversation with Emily Panietz and Becca Lunnon, racing as The Wonky Donkeys, about their strong showing at The Legend Adventure Race in Tasmania.That result didn’t come out of nowhere. In earlier races, Emily and Becca struggled at times with communication and teamwork—misaligned expectations, moments of frustration, and the normal growing pains that come with learning how to race together. Those experiences didn’t end in easy results, but they did give them a clearer sense of what needed to change.At The Legend, that work showed. Over the course of a long, technical race, they communicated more clearly, managed decisions together, and stayed connected when things got difficult. Rather than trying to force the race, they settled into a rhythm that allowed them to move steadily and efficiently through the course.In this episode, we talk about that progression—what didn’t work early on, how they adjusted, and why The Legend felt like a genuinely strong race for them as teammates. It’s a conversation about learning, adapting, and how growth over time can turn into a result that feels earned.Shownotes:The Legend - https://www.legendexpd.com.au/Sponsor Links:Nuataaq Carabiner Hydration Bottle - www.nuataaq.comShenandoah Epic Adventure Race - https://www.adventureenablers.com/

Dec 29, 20251h 4m

S3 Ep 161Episode 148 - Slade Combs: Fear, Performance, and Adventure Racing

In this episode of The Dark Zone, we sit down with Slade Combs, a performance coach who helps people understand, confront, and work through fear — not by eliminating it, but by learning how to carry it well. Whether you’re standing on a start line, staring down a scary race section, preparing for a big presentation, or simply trying to perform when the stakes feel high, fear shows up. The question isn’t if — it’s how.Slade brings a calm, practical, and deeply human approach to performance. We talk about why fear feels so powerful, how it is rooted in our life experience, and what actually helps when confidence wavers and doubt creeps in. This isn’t about hype or shortcuts. It’s about awareness, practice, and building trust in yourself when conditions aren’t perfect.Adventure racing lives in the margins — fatigue, uncertainty, imperfect information. So does life. This conversation bridges both worlds, offering insight for adventure racers, leaders, creatives, and anyone who wants to show up more fully when it matters most.Shownotes:https://www.sladecombs.com/https://ardarkzone.com/2025/04/04/episode-121-dave-jackson-of-cavesim-what-caving-can-teach-adventure-racers-about-fear-focus-and-teamwork/Sponsor Links:Nuataaq Carabiner Hydration Bottle - www.nuataaq.comShenandoah Epic Adventure Race - https://www.adventureenablers.com/Adventureware Shop - https://adventureware.shop/

Dec 23, 20251h 0m

S3 Ep 160Episode 147 - Where the Mountains Meet the Sea: ARWC Corsica 2026 Registration Open

In Episode 147, we step onto one of the most storied and demanding landscapes in European adventure racing.Flavie Bahuaud of Raid In France, joins TDZ to pull back the curtain on the 2026 Adventure Racing World Championship, coming to Corsica in September 2026. This isn’t just another host venue—it’s an island defined by extremes: jagged mountains rising straight from the sea, historic trails, technical navigation, and terrain that demands respect from even the most experienced teams on the planet.Flavie shares the vision behind bringing the World Championship to Corsica, how Raid In France approaches course design at the highest level of the sport, and what teams should expect—physically, technically, and mentally—when they arrive. We talk about Corsica’s unique geography, the origins of Raid In France, and why this race will reward preparation, adaptability, and patience just as much as speed.If you’re a team dreaming of a World Championship start line, a fan tracking the future of the sport, or a racer who wants a true challenge —this is an episode you don’t want to miss.The road to Corsica has begun.Shownotes: https://www.arwc2026.com/https://www.arworldseries.com/races/Corsica-is-magic-ARWC2026https://www.raidinfrance.com/Sponsor Links:Nuataaq Carabiner Hydration Bottle - www.nuataaq.comShenandoah Epic Adventure Race - https://www.adventureenablers.com/Adventureware Shop - https://adventureware.shop/

Dec 14, 202547 min

S3 Ep 159Episode 146 - Into the Spine of Mexico — La Ruta Madre with Joel, Una and Zach

On this extended episode of The Dark Zone, we head into the rugged heart of Monterrey, Mexico, home of La Ruta Madre—a race that blends blistering heat, steep technical terrain, cultural immersion, and the kind of navigational complexity that defines true expedition racing.Our guests—Una, Joel, and Zach—join TDZ to unpack the story of their team’s experience on this iconic course. But rather than spotlighting individual accomplishments, this episode explores how the team operated as a single unit: how decisions were made under fatigue, how pacing and strategy evolved across the Sierra Madre, and how communication and trust became just as critical as solid navigation or a strong climb.Together, they paint a vivid picture of what it means for a team to hold form across long hours, hard miles, and constantly shifting conditions. From their brief pre-race meeting to the moments deep in the mountains when teamwork mattered most, listeners get a rare inside look at how a successful team thinks, reacts, and stays connected.La Ruta Madre isn’t just a race—it’s a test of cohesion, resilience, and collective problem-solving. Settle in for an immersive conversation that brings you right into the heartbeat of the team as they took on one of the world's most striking and demanding adventure races.Shownotes: La Ruta Madre ARWS Page - https://arworldseries.com/races/319La Ruta Madre Event Website - https://larutamadre.mx/Bend Racing's LRM Report - https://www.bendracing.com/post/racing-la-ruta-madre-a-journey-of-teamwork-terrain-and-top-gearSponsor Links:Nuataaq Carabiner Hydration Bottle - www.nuataaq.comShenandoah Epic Adventure Race - https://www.adventureenablers.com/Adventureware Shop - https://adventureware.shop/

Dec 7, 20251h 56m

S3 Ep 158Episode 145 – The Long Way North: Tyler Stancill’s Eastern Divide Ride

In this episode of The Dark Zone: An Adventure Racing Podcast, we shift gears—literally and figuratively—to explore a different kind of endurance adventure. Our guest is Tyler Stancill, a passionate bikepacker who pedaled more than 6,000 miles from Key West, Florida to Newfoundland, Canada along the newly established Eastern Divide Trail.His journey captures the same spirit that fuels every adventure racer and explorer: resilience, curiosity, and a deep love of the road ahead. From the logistics of a months-long solo ride to the mental highs and lows that come with such an undertaking, Tyler’s story will strike a chord with anyone who’s ever wondered just how far they can go.Join us as we talk about bikes, backroads, and the beautiful intersection between endurance and exploration. Whether you race, ride, or simply dream of big journeys, this episode reminds us that adventure comes in many forms.Shownotes: The Eastern Divide Trail - https://bikepacking.com/eastern-divide-trail/Sponsor Links:Nuataaq Carabiner Hydration Bottle - www.nuataaq.comShenandoah Epic Adventure Race - https://www.adventureenablers.com/Adventureware Shop - https://adventureware.shop/

Nov 3, 20251h 2m
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