
The Change Makers Podcast
Graf-Martin Communications · Ellen Graf-Martin
Show overview
The Change Makers Podcast has published 25 episodes, alongside 1 trailer or bonus episode during 2020. That works out to roughly 20 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a fortnightly cadence, with the show now in its 12th season.
Episodes typically run thirty-five to sixty minutes — most land between 48 min and 1h — and the run-time is fairly consistent across the catalogue. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Business show.
The catalogue appears to be on hiatus or wound down — the most recent episode landed 5.5 years ago, with no new episodes in over a year. Published by Ellen Graf-Martin.
From the publisher
Join host Ellen Graf-Martin, as she brings you conversations about ministry, marketing and leadership. Ellen is joined by some of the most interesting change-makers and groundbreakers in Canada, and beyond.
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S2 Ep 24TCMP 24: Toni Nieuwhof
Episode 24: It is no secret that quarantine has introduced a new level of stress on relationships. Our new reality includes staying in, makeshift home office spaces and families spending more time together. Whether you have been married for 20 years or 2, listen in to learn how to safeguard your relationship in these stressful times. Today Toni Nieuwhof, family law mediator and former divorce attorney, tells us about 3 relationship pitfalls to be mindful of during lockdown with your significant other. About Toni Nieuwhof: Toni Nieuwhof's extensive experience as a lawyer, pharmacist, and church leader have given her unique and practical insight on how people grow, emotionally, personally and spiritually. Out of her practice in family law, Toni specializes in helping people leave their unhappiness behind, not their marriages.Toni is also the author of Before Your Split: Find What You Ready Want for the Future of Your Marriage. In her roles as mediator and lawyer, she is a steadfast voice for the well-being of the children involved. Toni co-founded and co-hosts the Smart Family Podcast to help people love being home. Toni and her husband, Carey Nieuwhof started one of North America's most influential churches near Barrie, Ontario where they currently reside.

S2 Ep 23TCMP 23: Interview with Cheryl Nembhard
Episode 23: Our guest this episode is Cheryl Nembhard. Cheryl is one of the co-host of the television show, See Hear Love. However, she is also an international speaker, creator and advocate for at risk youth and women. During this year, racial inequalities have been brought to the top of everyone's attention and the world is waiting and watching for a response from the church. Cheryl urges non-black faith leaders to speak up. "When you are called into leadership, you have signed up to live a life outside of yourself." Cheryl offers amazing advice for leaders and organizations who want to take steps towards reconciliation. It's a great episode, listen in! About Cheryl Nembhard: Cheryl is an award winning Filmmaker, Playwright & Director who continues to make her mark in the Arts & Entertainment Industry. Cheryl has become known as an important Story teller in Canada; presenting her Art in creative, cutting edge and bold ways. Cheryl's impact is felt far beyond the stage as she has dedicated most of her life to community service and helping those in need. For over a decade, she has been involved in the rehabilitation of troubled youth, former gang members, ex- drug addicts, rape victims and teenage mothers. Cheryl has focused her life to working and establishing creative spaces for them to discover themselves and find healing. Cheryl recently served as Artistic Director for Toronto City Mission; developing Creative Arts programs for At Risk youth & low income families. For the past 4 years, Cheryl has created & developed her own successful Summer Arts Camp program for underprivileged children. Cheryl was recently featured by CBC Toronto as one of 150 Black Women who have made a place in Canadian History.

S2 Ep 22TCMP 22: Interview with Michael Messenger, World Vision Canada & Allison Alley, Compassion Canada
Episode 22: Join in on Ellen's conversation with Allison Alley, CEO of Compassion Canada and Michael Messenger, President of World Vision Canada. Everything about COVID-19 has been magnified for those who are deeply in need. Our podcast guests can speak to that. In the midst of this health crisis, Allison and Michael are two leaders who want to keep their respective organization's mission on people's minds. If you feel like you are on the edge of your leadership capacity, listen in. Allison and Michael discuss why it is important to connect with other leaders, even those who may be positioned as your competitor. Keep in mind, your competitor might be working towards the same Kingdom mission as you are. Base your partnership on that similarity. There is no better time than the present to boost collaboration within your organization and outside of it. About Allison Alley: Allison Alley is the President and CEO of Compassion Canada, a global development organization that exists to permanently end childhood poverty in all its forms. She holds a Master of Arts in Global Leadership with an emphasis in International Development and Urban Studies from Fuller Theological Seminary and a Master of Business Administration from Ivey Business School. Allison and her husband, Tommy, live in London, Ontario and have two daughters. About Michael Messenger: Michael first joined World Vision in 1990 and was involved in early advocacy efforts in Canada and Geneva. After five years, Michael moved to attend law school and then practiced law for nine years in Halifax. As a partner at Cox & Palmer, he developed a broad litigation practice and served as chief counsel to a high-profile public inquiry on issues of youth justice. He then returned to World Vision and served as Vice-President, Public Affairs and Executive Vice-President before assuming the role of President in 2015. His leadership has sponsored numerous cross-functional initiatives and strategies throughout the Partnership. He has a degree in economics from Gordon College in Wenham, Massachusetts and a law degree from the University of Toronto. In his spare time, Michael runs marathons with Team World Vision, raising awareness and funds for children so they can reach their God-given potential.

S2 Ep 21TCMP 21: Interview with Cheryl Hotchkiss, Graf-Martin Communications
Episode 21: In this episode, Ellen sits down with Cheryl Hotchkiss who is the Managing Director at Graf-Martin Communications. This episode is a must-listen for non-profit leaders, especially women who find themselves balancing their role as leaders and mothers. Leaders have the tendency to question their value. If that's you, listen in and be encouraged by some amazing insights from Cheryl - who has over 20 years of marketing and communications experience working in not-for-profit organizations. This episode covers the topic of mentorship, authenticity, collaboration and more! About Cheryl Hotchkiss: Cheryl has over 20 years experience in marketing and communications with a focus on public engagement and brand development - creating the conditions for effective fundraising. She has worked exclusively in not-for-profit organizations leading large and small teams working to engage Canadians in learning about and taking action on social justice issues in Canada and internationally. Her passion is to help create clarity for organizations doing good in the world so that they can effectively find support to bring about positive and lasting change. She brings a curious mind, process excellence and informed strategic thinking to every project she participates in. Born and raised in Southern Ontario with a mother from Texas and a father from northern Ontario. She spent 10 years on the family dairy farm before leaving for university. She has a BA in Political Science and History as well as a Masters Degree in Applied Social Science. Cheryl lives in Waterloo, with her husband and her two children who are attending the University of Ottawa, Ontario.

S2 Ep 20TCMP 20: Interview with Gillian McShane
Episode 20: We're in crisis management and a lot of self compassion is needed when we are navigating new waters. Our special guest today is life and leadership coach, Gillian McShane-Shields. Gillian offers expert advice for leaders who are feeling burnt out and overwhelmed. In this episode we learn that it's okay to tell your team that you don't have all the answers, the importance of having trusted people in your life, and why you should adopt a growth mindset. Gillian also offers you a free stress assessment resource, which you can find on our podcast webpage. About Gillian McShane-Shields : Gillian is a Certified Life Coach and Leadership Coach. Gillian has over 25 years of experience in Corporate and Not for Profit organizations building staff and volunteer teams. Gillian's desire for wellness in the workplace developed out of her education at University of Toronto where she found her training in Physical Health and Education was most beneficial in the workplace. Gillian is a Certified Workplace Psychological Health and Safety Advisor and uses her skills as a strategic thinker to help workplaces move forward in corporate wellness. She operates out of her motto to "Equip, Encourage and Empower" her clients to reach their goals and potential. Gillian makes sure she stays balanced by getting out into the outdoors whether it's motorcycling, hiking or kayaking. She has been married for over 30 years and has 2 - 20 somethings

S12 Ep 19TCMP 19: Interview with Janet Noel-Annable, Christian Horizons
About Episode 19: Our guest this episode is Janet Noel-Annable, CEO of Christian Horizons. Janet opens up about the resilience and creativity she has witnessed this season from her staff, volunteers and the people supported by Christian Horizons. The COVID crisis has heightened awareness of the unique needs and experiences of many community members including people living with intellectual and developmental disabilities and those that support them. Due to strong leadership, community partnership and the commitment of people, Chirstian Horizons has averted what could have been a major public health crisis. Listen in to find out how. About Janet Noel-Annable: Janet Noel-Annable is the Chief Executive Officer of Christian Horizons, an international organization that provides services and supports to people with disabilities in Canada and in developing countries around the world. Janet was hired as a Direct Support Professional for Christian Horizons in Ottawa in 1989. Since then Janet filled various roles within Christian Horizons culminating with her appointment as Chief Executive Officer in 2011. Janet is dedicated to the vision of Christian Horizons in that all people who experience disabilities belong to communities in which their God-given gifts are valued and respected. As a natural collaborator, Janet builds partnerships with the faith based agencies and churches, government and other organizations, believing that together we have the strength to build communities of belonging for all people with disabilities. Janet grew up in Newfoundland and is a graduate of Carleton University. She currently resides in the Kitchener-Waterloo area with her husband, Bill Annable. Together they have four grown children, and enjoy spending time with family and friends.

S2 Ep 18TCMP 18: Interview with Shawn Plummer, Food for the Hungry
Episode 18: In this week's episode, Ellen sits down with Shawn Plummer from Food for the Hungry Canada as they talk about how Food for the Hungry trains their communities to thrive in times of crisis and uncertainty. Shawn talks about how finding innovative ways to meet with people which has been exciting for them as an organization, and how Christ calls us to do things together as a community. About Shawn Plummer: Shawn has an 18-year track record in international relief and development including 10 years with a leading organization as Country Director in Mozambique and Eritrea, Regional Director for North Africa and the Middle East, and as Director of Technical Programs. Shawn has gained invaluable program and leadership experience by managing hundreds of staff and multi-million dollar programming activities to assist the most vulnerable globally. Shawn has been at Food for the Hungry Canada for nine years, where he has overseen partnership development, the artist advocate program, and Child Sponsorship. Shawn is deeply respected in the non-profit development community, both here in Canada and worldwide. Rooted in his compassion and love for the most vulnerable, Shawn's broad network of global relationships continue to provide valuable support to his work. Shawn and his wife, Lindsay, have been married for 16 years and live in Chilliwack, BC. Their four children keep them busy, especially their twin boys who are avid hockey players.

S2 Ep 17TCMP 17: Interview with Anne Miranda, Village Church
Episode 17: Wondering what changes leaders are making to help them make it through? Listen in to this week's episode with Anne Miranda, pastor of Women's Ministry at Village Church, where Anne shares insight that will help you, your team and your organization come out of this season stronger. Here are some of the topics we cover: Going from event based ministry to individual based ministry Not getting caught up in the doing Creating space for wonder A new way of measuring success Why it's crucial to take care of yourself It's a timely message you'll want to hear. About Anne Miranda: Anne Miranda currently leads the Women's Ministry at Village Church. Prior to her pastoral role, she has many years of experience working in government and as an educator. Anne is passionate about seeing the lives of women transformed by Jesus and loves encouraging others to reach their full God-designed potential. Jesus is her true treasure and she desires to share his love, hope, and truth with everyone. She lives in Surrey, B.C. with her husband Carlos and their children Nathaniel and Hannah. There are many ways to connect with Women's Ministries at Village Church, at a local site or online through our social media venues or email Anne and she will guide you accordingly.

S2 Ep 16TCMP 16: Interview with Stacey Campbell, Prison Fellowship Canada
Episode 16: This week on the Change Makers Podcast, Ellen sits down with Stacey Campbell, president and CEO of Prison Fellowship Canada. In this episode, Stacey gives us great insight into the ministry of reconciliation, the hardships of communicating the need for prison ministry and our collective responsibility to end crime. 2020 has changed everything for ministries and non-profit organizations that usually thrive with a good five-year plan. In this season of constant shifts, organizations like Prison Fellowship Canada have adopted a mindset of constant examination by following a 30 day strategic plan instead. Find out why by listening in! About Stacey Campbell: Stacey Campbell is married to John Campbell and together they have two adult children, Kate and John. She is an avid cook and gardener. Professionally, Stacey is the President and Chief Executive Officer of Prison Fellowship Canada, a ministry organization that prepares and mobilizes the Canadian Church community in response to the issue of crime and the restoration of offenders. Stacey uses the skills and training she honed from 25 years in the business world where she owned and operated a mid-sized marketing company along with many years in ministry leadership. Academically, Stacey holds a Diploma in Business Administration and a Master of Divinity degree in Missional Leadership. She is currently studying at Acadia University in pursuit of her Doctorate in Restorative Justice. In 2019, Stacey worked and studied in Colombia, South Africa, Israel and Albania on the issues and best practices of Restorative Justice. Stacey is a certified Trauma Integration Practitioner and workshop leader. She regularly teaches on subjects that she is passionate about including the Canadian prison system, reconciliation, forgiveness, restoration, as well as restorative and Biblical justice.

S2 Ep 15TCMP 15: Interview with Mark Petersen & Nate Petersen, Stronger Philanthropy
Episode 15: This week on The Change Makers Podcast, we are joined by Mark and Nate Peterson. Mark is the CEO of Stronger Philanthropy, a firm dedicated to providing professional philanthropic management services for Canadian foundations and major donors. Mark's son Nate is the Program Director for Stronger Philanthropy. In this episode, we discuss philanthropy as a social return on investment, why mentorship is important, and practical ways to increase collaboration between Gen X and Baby Boomers. It's a great message for non-profit organizations trying to raise money in this new climate! About Mark: Mark Petersen is the CEO of Stronger Philanthropy, a firm dedicated to providing professional philanthropic management services for Canadian foundations and major donors. It facilitates strategic and visionary giving to charitable work. At the same time, it provides access to large grants for charities through an online portal. Stronger Philanthropy's seasoned team has 25 years' cumulative expertise in managing private Canadian foundations and has overseen $44m through 1,391 grants to Canadian charities being awarded from its clients. Stronger Philanthropy offers resources and strategies to assist givers in maximizing impact for their generosity. About Nate Petersen: Nate Petersen is the Program Director for Stronger Philanthropy, a firm dedicated to providing professional philanthropic management services for Canadian foundations and major donors. It facilitates strategic and visionary giving to charitable work. At the same time, it provides access to large grants for charities through an online portal. Stronger Philanthropy's seasoned team has 25 years' cumulative expertise in managing private Canadian foundations and has overseen $44m through 1,391 grants to Canadian charities being awarded from its clients. Stronger Philanthropy offers resources and strategies to assist givers in maximizing impact for their generosity.

S2 Ep 14TCMP 14: Interview with Shaila Visser, Alpha Canada
Episode 14: In this episode, you get to sit in on Ellen's conversation with Shaila Visser. Shaila has over 20 years of ministry experience and is currently the National Director of Alpha Canada and Global Senior Vice-President for Alpha International. Listen in as Shaila shares what she has learned as a leader navigating the immense changes of the 'next normal,' of this global crisis. This episode, we discuss the shift to virtual community, the importance of taking a sabbath and how hypothesis testing allows your organization to be agile in a world that is always changing. Shaila shares incredible advice for non-profit, ministry and church leaders. We'd love for you to share this episode with a leader you know. About Shaila Visser: Shaila is the National Director of Alpha Canada, Global Senior Vice-President for Alpha International, and Executive Producer of both The Alpha Youth Film Series (2013) and The Alpha Film Series (2016). Prior to her work with Alpha, she was on staff with Power to Change in Canada. Shaila has been involved in vocational ministry for over 20 year. She has been studying evangelism and evangelistic responses in non-profits and the church. Shaila has a heart for people coming to know Jesus and helping the local church flourish. She is known for her strategic leadership and her ability to bring people together. Shaila is recognized as one of the Top 100 Most Influential Christian Women in Canada. Shaila lives in Vancouver, BC with her husband Ryan, a K9 Unit Police Officer, and two four-legged family members, Blade and Talon. Alpha Canada produces videos for interactive small groups that deal with questions of life, faith and Jesus. It's an experience embraced by Canadian churches from coast to coast. Alpha is designed to be a space, online or in person, where people are excited to bring their friends in on a conversation about life's biggest questions.

S2 Ep 13TCMP 13: Interview with Andy Harrington, Canadian Foodgrains Bank
Episode 13: Welcome to season two of The Change Makers Podcast! For our first episode of the season, it was our privilege to interview Andy Harrington. Andy has over 32-years of experience in the non-profit ministry sector, currently serving as the Executive Director of the Canadian Foodgrains Bank and previously as CEO with the Wellspring Foundation for Education and Youth for Christ. In this episode, Andy shared rich and authentic advice for leaders leading through this global crisis of COVID-19, as well as for those who are leading through personal crises at the same time. Andy shared encouraging guidance that if we allow them to, the lessons we're learning in this season can allow us to lead better, become better and be better servants with more empathy and more compassion for those we serve in our organizations. We're so thankful that Andy would trust us with his story and think you will really enjoy this episode. About Andy Harrington: Andy Harrington is the Executive Director of the Canadian Foodgrains Bank, a partnership of 15 Canadian church denominations and agencies, working in over 32 countries with a goal to end global hunger. The organization works in relief efforts for those who are hungry due to crisis situations such as war, droughts or floods, as well as building longer-term sustainability by helping people provide food for themselves and their families. Andy previously worked as the CEO of the Wellspring Foundation for Education, an organization with a vision to show the love of Christ by being a catalyst for transforming education in Africa and to foster vibrant communities that address poverty in all its forms. He oversees teams in Africa and North America that work together to help provide quality education to over 200,000 young people and to empower thousands of teachers, leaders and parents. Andy has over thirty-two years of experience working in international development and with youth and young adults around the world, including many years in leadership with Youth for Christ. He and his wife Helen spent two years in Croatia and Bosnia working with children traumatized by the war and he has led projects in a number of other countries, including as part of the relief efforts for the Asian Tsunami disaster. Connect with Andy: LinkedIn | Twitter | Facebook Learn more about Canadian Foodgrains Bank: Website | Facebook | Instagram | Twitter

S2 Ep 1Ellen Graf-Martin on Season Two of The Change Makers Podcast
bonusWhen we began 2020, did we ever think it would look like this? In light of COVID-19 and months of pivoted plans, lockdown and change after change, what does the rest of this year look like now? What does 2021 look like? For those of us in leadership, ministry and marketing, what does it look like as we go forward into our 'next normal'? These are some of the topics we're going to discuss in season two of The Change Makers Podcast. In this season of The Change Makers Podcast, you can expect to hear from leaders across Canada like Allison Alley from Compassion Canada, Michael Messenger from World Vision Canada, Shawn Plummer from Food for the Hungry Canada, Andy Harringon from Canadian Foodgrains Bank and Shaila Visser from Alpha Canada. It's going to be a great season and we're so excited for you to hear it! You're not alone as you lead in this season. Season Two of The Change Makers Podcast with Ellen Graf-Martin releases September 16.

S1 Ep 12TCMP 012: Bev & Drew Marshall on The Cost of Ministry for Marriage, Identity and Faith
Episode 012: This week on The Change Makers Podcast, Drew Marshall, the long-time host of The Drew Marshall show – Canada's most listened to spiritual talk show, is joining us once again with his wife, Bev. If you haven't listened to episode 006 with Drew, click here. In this week's episode, Ellen is joined by Bev and Drew for an enormously deep, honest conversation where they discuss topics such as; what to do when your marriage falls apart, whether or not ministry is compatible when wrestling with faith, if it's okay to be in ministry and not have all the answers; whether or not relationships can work without faith as a common denominator and about treating ministry and leadership as a job rather than a personal relationship with the creator. It's a timely conversation in light of COVID-19 and quarantine, where couples are suddenly spending a lot of time together at home, and perhaps facing new challenges in their marriage. About Drew Marshall: Drew Marshall was adopted, grew up in a funeral home, survived a teenage suicide attempt, dropped out of school in Grade 9, ran away to California to be a wrangler, played semi-pro football with NFL/CFL tryouts, drove around North America volunteering for charities, tried to be a firefighter & a rodeo cowboy, was a stay at home dad, has worked a little in film and TV, became a Pastor in Australia and studied stand-up comedy & improv at Second City Toronto. These days he's a hospital chaplain and was the host of Canada's most listened to spiritual talk show. He's interviewed hundreds of celebrities & cultural icons about their beliefs or lack thereof. Struggling with his own faith, Drew sacrificed his eyesight for the last week of Lent, paid non-believers to go to church, drank with witches, celebrated with Wiccans, visited with Satanists and walked 1000 KM's on the Camino de Santiago during a three-month vow of silence.
S1 Ep 11TCMP 011: Melinda Estabrooks on Inclusion, Being in the Spotlight, and the Importance of Relationship
Episode 011: You've probably seen Melinda Estabrooks on screen or heard her on the radio, but in this episode of The Change Makers Podcast, you'll get to know Melinda in a whole new way. Melinda is the creator, executive producer and host of the Canadian women show, See Hear Love and she previously worked for Graf-Martin Communications as our Publicity and Promotions Specialist. In this episode, Melinda sat down with Ellen to discuss reaching and including people coast-to-coast, what it means to be a good leader when you're in the public eye, how fame is a trap and the importance of connection and building relationships. This episode is an honest and real conversation between longtime friends Melinda and Ellen where they discuss topics they never thought they would about entrepreneurship, marriage, leadership and ministry. About Melinda Estabrooks: Melinda's career spans over 25 years of broadcast, motivational speaking, and advocacy experience. In her early career, Melinda served as an advocate for social justice issues at World Vision Canada and as a media producer, reporter, and Cultural Correspondent at Context with Lorna Dueck. Melinda has been a keynote speaker at many conferences, retreats, churches and concerts throughout Canada for close to two decades. She joined Crossroads Global Media Group in 2006, where she began as a co-host on 100 Huntley Street's women's television show, Full Circle. Melinda specialized in live events and experiential marketing and was a regular event host and speaker for Crossroads and CTS TV (now YES TV). In 2014, Melinda worked at Graf-Martin Communications as their Publicity and Promotions Specialist where she connected with Christian leaders and influencers to promote faith films. In the summer of 2015, Melinda joined JOY 1250 and launched her radio and podcast show, Your Story with Melinda, which encourages her listeners to experience personal stories of faith every Saturday. For more information, visit www.melindaestabrooks.com

S1 Ep 10TCMP 010: James Kelly on FaithTech, Artificial Intelligence, Finding a Mentor, and Digital Sabbath
Episode 010: James Kelly is doing amazing things and is a true change maker in the faith and technology world as Founder and CEO of FaithTech and we could not wait to have him as a guest on The Change Makers Podcast. In this episode, Ellen and James talk about artificial intelligence, how to accelerate impact using technology, how to get the next generation involved in your organization, what young leaders are looking for in a mentor, and digital Sabbath. James shares incredible advice for young leaders and we'd love for you to share this episode with a young leader you know. About James Kelly: James is Founder and CEO of FaithTech, a company pioneering a new way to share the good news about Jesus in a new era driven by technology. With FaithTech, James hopes to bridge the gap between faith and technology by empowering emerging leaders, hosting innovative events and building gospel-centered companies (LABS). The work of FaithTech has been mentioned in The New York Times, Wired Magazine and Christianity Today. James has spoken live over 350 times in remote villages in South Sudan to Google HQ in Silicon Valley. He has been featured on 100 Huntley, 700 Club and Faith Today.

S1 Ep 9TCMP 009: Tim Day on Succession Planning, Collaboration, and Engaging the Next Generation
Episode 009: Trust us: you're going to learn so much from Tim Day in this episode of The Change Makers Podcast. Tim is the Director of City Movement and the Impact Network with WayBase.com. In this episode, Ellen and Tim discuss engaging the next generation in the purpose of the church, why it's important for churches and organizations to adapt to current communications and ministry methods and practical ways to increase collaboration. It's a timely message in light of COVID-19 and some of the challenges churches and organizations are facing. About Tim Day: Tim Day is Director of City Movement and the Impact Network with WayBase.com. Tim helps business leaders, para-church ministries and churches work together to advance the message of Jesus and mission in their city. Tim combines a passion for leadership, strategy and innovation with a rich understanding of the Biblical narrative and its principles of transformation and growth. Previously, Tim served for fourteen years as the senior pastor of The Meeting House, a multi-site church that grew from a few hundred people to over 5000 people in cities across Ontario. He is also the author of God Enters Stage Left, a creative retelling of God's story. Tim is married to Liz and has three children, Nathan, Rachel and Josh. He enjoys basketball, distance running, and writing.

S1 Ep 8TCMP 008: Dr. Merry Lin on Leadership Insecurities, Leading through Grief, and Stewarding Your Influence
Episode 008: Let's be honest, probably every leader needs a psychologist as a friend. In this episode, you get to sit in on Ellen's conversation with Dr. Merry Lin. Dr. Merry is a clinical psychologist with over 25-years of clinical experience and she is the author of The Fully Lived Life. If you ever wanted to talk to a psychologist about leadership, this episode for you. Ellen and Dr. Merry Lin talk about their personal stories of walking through grief while leading, on becoming the person you actually like as a leader, we talk about success and insecurity and the tendency to build a wall around our hearts. It's an important conversation every leader needs to have. About Dr. Merry Lin: Dr. Merry is a registered clinical psychologist with over 20 years of experience in counselling individuals, couples and families on a variety of personal issues. She specializes in helping people overcome depression, anxiety and fear, abuse and trauma, stress, grief, marital and relationship struggles, parenting and family issues, and other life stressors. Her passion is to help people of all ages discover their full potential and to realize their purpose and joy in life. She is also passionate about helping clients develop healthy relationships with their spouse, children, family, friends and co-workers.

S1 Ep 7TCMP 007: Joy Byers on Using Technology for Discipleship, Unity and Diversity, and Dispelling Differences
Episode 007: It's time we started having those uncomfortable conversations around race as a Church, isn't it? Be prepared because episode seven of The Change Makers Podcast is a really honest conversation where Ellen and Joy Byers, the Discipleship Pastor at The Peoples Church in Toronto, discuss race and the need to break down old ways of thinking, especially around diversity, so that we can find new unity. They also discuss the benefits of technology and systems as tools for discipleship and our need for diversity in the Church and in our lives. About Joy Byers: A Montreal native, Joy found her way into the loving arms of Jesus much later in life. Joy is Mom in a blended family with four grandbabies and "Mama Bear" to many others that God has placed in her path. Joy loves using words and sounds to create and produce music and to encourage others. Joy is Discipleship Pastor at The Peoples Church in Toronto and is passionate about equipping the body to handle the Word of God.

S1 Ep 6TCMP 006: Drew Marshall on Wrestling with Faith, Calling, and When to Quit
Episode 006: "Don't be afraid to be different." That's the advice Ellen got when she started The Change Makers Podcast and this week's episode is certainly different. This week's guest is Drew Marshall, the long-time host of The Drew Marshall Show, Canada's most-listened-to spiritual talk show. Drew is a longtime friend of Ellen and in this episode, they discuss why he left his work as a pastor and his successful radio show, how doubt and spiritual leadership function together, and what it's like to struggle openly with your faith in the Christian world. We think you'll learn a lot from Drew! Stay tuned for the second episode of The Change Makers Podcast coming later this season. About Drew Marshall: Drew Marshall was adopted, grew up in a funeral home, survived a teenage suicide attempt, dropped out of school in Grade 9, ran away to California to be a wrangler, played semi-pro football with NFL/CFL tryouts, drove around North America volunteering for charities, tried to be a firefighter & a rodeo cowboy, was a stay at home dad, has worked a little in film and TV, became a Pastor in Australia and studied stand-up comedy & improv at Second City Toronto. These days he's a hospital chaplain and hosts Canada's most listened to spiritual talk show. He's interviewed hundreds of celebrities & cultural icons about their beliefs or lack thereof. Struggling with his own faith, Drew sacrificed his eyesight for the last week of Lent, paid non-believers to go to church, drank with witches, celebrated with Wiccans, visited with Satanists and walked 1000 KM's on the Camino de Santiago during a three month vow of silence. Now he's a "Red Letter", wandering, autodidactic iconoclast with agnostic tendencies and a microphone!