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46 | Behind the curtain: Our life in Morwell

When we landed in Morwell 10 weeks ago to make this podcast, we had no idea what was ahead — both inside the courtroom and outside.Turns out a lot of you are curious about the experience of making this podcast, why we are so emotionally invested, and our observations of the community we've been embedded in.In this episode, Rachael Brown and Stephen Stockwell give listeners a peek into their lives in Morwell, and a behind the scenes of making the pod.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.To catch up on all the evidence from the case, go back and listen to all our Friday Wrap episodes:A tragic accident or ultimate betrayal? Our Friday WrapWhat happened to the leftovers? Our Friday WrapDeath caps, DNA and drama: Our Friday WrapEverything you need to know about Erin's messages: Our Friday WrapKey moments in the case so far: Our Friday WrapExplaining Erin's evidence: Our Friday WrapThe biggest moments of Erin's evidence: Our Friday WrapKill them all, or reconnect? Our Friday WrapJudging Erin's lies: Our Friday Wrap

Jul 4, 202532 min

45 | The room where it happens: Jury questions answered

In a closed room in the Latrobe Valley Law Courts, 12 people are deciding if Erin Patterson is guilty or not guilty of murder and attempted murder. In this episode Rachael Brown and Stephen Stockwell answer your questions about the jury; how much they’re paid, the way they’ll approach deliberations, what support is available and how we’ll be told they have reached a verdict. If you’ve got questions about the case that you’d like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected] It's the case that's captured the attention of the world. Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson. Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she’s innocent. Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court. From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom. Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app. To catch up on all the evidence from the case, go back and listen to all our Friday Wrap episodes:A tragic accident or ultimate betrayal? Our Friday WrapWhat happened to the leftovers? Our Friday WrapDeath caps, DNA and drama: Our Friday WrapEverything you need to know about Erin's messages: Our Friday WrapKey moments in the case so far: Our Friday WrapExplaining Erin's evidence: Our Friday WrapThe biggest moments of Erin's evidence: Our Friday WrapKill them all, or reconnect? Our Friday WrapJudging Erin's lies: Our Friday Wrap

Jul 2, 202525 min

44 | The jury retires to consider its verdict

After nine weeks, the jury has retired to consider its verdict: whether Erin Patterson is guilty or not guilty of murder and attempted murder.In this episode Rachael Brown and Stephen Stockwell talk through the final instructions given to the jury, explain how they'll return their verdict and what happens while we wait.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

Jun 29, 202528 min

43 | Judging Erin's lies: Our Friday Wrap

As the jury departed for their last weekend at home before deliberations, Justice Christopher Beale gave specific instructions on how they should consider the lies Erin Patterson has told.In our Friday Wrap, Rachael Brown and Stephen Stockwell explain Justice Christopher Beale's directions to the jury — highlighting specific lies and alleged incriminating conduct — explain the next steps and answer your questions.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

Jun 27, 202531 min

42 | The argument the jury was told to ignore

As his charge to the jury ran through its third day, Justice Christopher Beale told the jury to specifically rule out one of the prosecution's arguments, relating to the leftovers she fed her childrenIn this episode, Rachael Brown and Stephen Stockwell talk through the points Justice Beale highlighted as he ran through a list of alleged incriminating conduct following the lunch in July 2023 and answer some of your questions.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

Jun 26, 202516 min

41 | Lies, phone resets, dumped evidence: the two explanations

The jury in Erin Patterson's triple murder trial was reminded of her behaviour after the lunch: what the prosecution alleges is incriminating conduct and the defence says was panic.In today's episode, Rachael Brown and Stephen Stockwell explain why Justice Beale said the jury — not the experts — decide what the facts are, and they reflect on how the behind-the-scenes legal arguments are still happening, even though the trial is almost over.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

Jun 24, 202522 min

40 | How to judge Erin: Justice Beale weighs in

Today Justice Christopher Beale instructed the jury on how to decide whether Erin Patterson is guilty or not guilty. He laid out the principles of law, summarised the key evidence, and even provided the jurors with what's sure to be a very helpful chronology of all the evidence they've heard.The Judge also explained what to make of Erin Patterson taking the stand, how to assess evidence from her children, and what to make of good character evidence.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

Jun 24, 202524 min

39 | Kill them all, or reconnect? Our Friday Wrap

The sides in Erin Patterson's triple murder trial delivered their closing addresses this week, with one calling the lunch a sinister deception and the other a friendly family gathering.In this episode, Rachael Brown and Stephen Stockwell talk through the key arguments from each side, share some reflections on the week and explain the next stages.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

Jun 20, 202536 min

38 | Maybe? Likely? Probably? Defence's final bid to the jury

In a final bid to the jury, Erin Patterson's defence barrister argued his client gave honest evidence and did not try to charm or persuade.Rachael Brown and Stephen Stockwell talk through Colin Mandy SC's key points as he wrapped up his closing address, and why he claims the jury should find Erin Patterson not guilty.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

Jun 19, 202524 min

37 | "Not on trial for being a liar" - defence closing continues

Erin Patterson's defence team has told the jury not to confuse Erin Patterson's lies with the question of whether she is guilty of murder.In the second day of Colin Mandy SC's closing address, he offered explanations for why Erin started to feel sick earlier than her lunch guests, and warned the jury not to use "hindsight reasoning" against Erin.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

Jun 18, 202529 min

36 | Defence zeros in on lack of motive

Prosecutor Dr Nannette Rogers SC finished her closing address, telling the jury there was a final alleged deception by Erin Patterson: how she allegedly deceived the jury from the witness box. The defence then stepped up, with Colin Mandy SC presenting a type of anti-motive and arguing that Erin Patterson had plenty of reasons to not kill her lunch guests. If you’ve got questions about the case that you’d like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected] It's the case that's captured the attention of the world. Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson. Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she’s innocent. Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court. From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom. Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

Jun 17, 202528 min

35 | "A sinister deception": Prosecution's closing address begins

The prosecution has begun its closing address to the jury, outlining four key deceptions it says underpin Erin Patterson's guilt.Rachael Brown and Stephen Stockwell recap these four alleged deceptions, and how the prosecution attacked Erin's evidence in the witness box, saying she made a "ridiculous and obvious lie".If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

Jun 16, 202535 min

34 | The biggest moments of Erin's Evidence: Our Friday Wrap

After eight days and hundreds of questions Erin Patterson has left the witness box, taking the jury a step closer to their deliberationsIn today's episode Rachael Brown and Stephen Stockwell talk through the big moments of Erin's testimony, their reflections at the end of the evidence and share a surprising moment from the Latrobe Valley Law Courts.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

Jun 13, 202535 min

33 | Erin Patterson's final words to the jury

The defence rested its case today after arguing a final point about the Enrich clinic where Erin Patterson claimed she was pursuing weight loss surgery in 2023.In today's episode Rachael Brown and Stephen Stockwell take you through the last of the prosecution's challenges and the defence's clarifications, before the jury was given an early mark.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

Jun 12, 202525 min

32 | Late-breaking evidence on Erin's gastric bypass claims

The prosecution has put forward fresh evidence which challenges Erin Patterson's claims she sought assessment for gastric bypass at a Melbourne clinic, Enrich.Rachael Brown and Stephen Stockwell walk through the new evidence, as well as several other points in Dr Rogers' cross examination today, including Erin's Asian grocer claims and her alleged visits to Loch and Outtrim, where death cap mushrooms were documented to be growing on the iNaturalist site.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

Jun 11, 202530 min

31 | Body image, body fluids and body functions: Erin's evidence challenged

Cross examination continued for a third day today, with prosecutor Dr Nanette Rogers interrogating Erin Patterson's claims about weight loss surgery and her body functions in the days after the lunch.Rachael Brown and Stephen Stockwell step through the day's evidence, which ended with a terse exchange between the accused and the prosecutor.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

Jun 10, 202523 min

30 | Explaining Erin's evidence: Our Friday wrap

Erin Patterson has spent almost all week in the witness box, facing questions today about whether her relationship with the lunch guests was as positive as she claims.In this episode Rachael Brown and Stephen Stockwell take you through the day's evidence and recap the week of Erin Patterson's testimony.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

Jun 6, 202533 min

29 | The cross examination of Erin Patterson begins

Erin Patterson faced almost an entire day of cross examination from prosecutor Dr Nanette Rogers.In today's episode Rachael Brown and Stephen Stockwell talk through how the prosecution challenged Erin Patterson on her cancer claims, her lies about foraging and the meaning of the emojis she shared with her friends on Facebook.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

Jun 5, 202528 min

28 | The lies of Erin Patterson explained – in her own words

Erin Patterson explained why she cooked individual beef Wellington’s, lied about having cancer and dumped her dehydrator, as she was taken through the July 2023 lunch in detail today. At the end of Erin’s third day in the witness box, investigative reporter Rachael Brown and Stephen Stockwell talk through what the accused triple murderer told the court. If you’ve got questions about the case that you’d like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected] It's the case that's captured the attention of the world. Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson. Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she’s innocent. Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court. From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom. Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

Jun 4, 202533 min

27 | Erin accepts that death caps were in the lunch

Today, during her second day in the witness box, Erin Patterson accepted that the mushroom meal must have contained death caps.The accused triple murderer also told the jury she foraged for mushrooms for several years leading up to the lunch, spoke about how traumatic hospital experiences in the past had shaken her trust in the health system, and gave details about her financial situation.In today's episode investigative reporter Rachael Brown and Stephen Stockwell talk through Erin's evidence, including the moments that brought her to tears.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

Jun 3, 202530 min

26 | Erin Patterson takes the stand

Accused triple murderer, Erin Patterson, has given evidence for the first time in her own trial.In today's episode Rachael Brown and Stephen Stockwell take you through everything Erin told the jury, including a history of her relationship and marriage to Simon. Erin spoke about converting to Christianity, building her dream home, the traumatic birth of their first child and her relationship with Simon's parents, Don and Gail.Earlier in the day, there were details given about the plates in Erin's home, the three SIM cards under investigation, and some texts between Erin and her mother-in-law Gail.Erin Patterson will resume giving evidence tomorrow.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected] It's the case that's captured the attention of the world. Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson. Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she’s innocent. Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court. From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom. Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

Jun 2, 202533 min

25 | Key moments in the case so far: Our Friday wrap

As the fifth week of trial comes to a close, what is Erin Patterson's defence team most focused on challenging in the prosecution's case against her?Kristian Silva, Rachael Brown and Stephen Stockwell recap the key points of contention so far, and wrap up the week's most recent evidence.We also farewell Kristian as he steps away to become a dad, taking him through some of your baby name suggestions.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Rachael and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Court reporter Kristian Silva and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

May 30, 202543 min

24 | Erin's defence team gets to work

Defence Barrister Colin Mandy has suggested police failed to seize devices from Erin Patterson's home, during the search where she was left alone with one of her phones.In today's episode, Kristian Silva and Stephen Stockwell break down the day's evidence, and reveal some exciting personal news.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Kristian and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Court reporter Kristian Silva and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

May 29, 202530 min

23 | Sim card allegedly swapped while police searched Erin’s home

The prosecution alleged today that Erin Patterson handed over a secondary phone when police searched her home after changing sim cards mid-search. The officer in charge of the investigation said they never found her primary phone, described as "Phone A".In today's episode Kristian Silva and Stephen Stockwell talk through the multiple phone and sim card swaps, Erin's shopping list prior to the lunch and the websites she supposedly visited.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Kristian and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Court reporter Kristian Silva and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

May 28, 202523 min

22 | Erin Patterson's police interview revealed

Erin Patterson's police interview a week after the 2023 beef Wellington lunch was played to the jury today.Kristian Silva and Stephen Stockwell step through the key moments of the interview, as well as the events leading up to it that day, including a police search of Erin's home and what they found in the kitchen.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Kristian and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Court reporter Kristian Silva and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

May 26, 202528 min

21 | Tracking down the mushroom source

The health department official, whose job it is to respond to health risks, read the court her messages to Erin Patterson as she tried to trace the source of the mushrooms used in the deadly lunch.Kristian Silva and Stephen Stockwell also discuss the results of the lunch guests' autopsies and the defence's challenges to digital forensics officer, Shamen Fox Henry.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Kristian and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Court reporter Kristian Silva and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

May 26, 202529 min

20 | Everything you need to know about Erin’s messages: Our Friday Wrap

As the fourth week of the trial comes to a close, we walk through all the key messages Erin sent to her Facebook friends, and how they fit into the timeline of events the prosecution has presented to the jury.Rachael Brown also joins Kristian Silva and Stephen Stockwell for our Friday Wrap, recapping the biggest moments of the week in court. Finally, we bring you a bonus length audience Q&A, because the inbox is overflowing with your curious questions.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Kristian and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Court reporter Kristian Silva and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

May 23, 202540 min

19 | "I want nothing to do with them" - Erin’s messages about lunch guests

Facebook messages Erin Patterson sent to friends reveal frustration and anger towards her estranged husband Simon, and two of her lunch guests, Don and Gail Patterson. Kristian Silva and Stephen Stockwell break down more findings from digital forensics officer Shamen Fox Henry, as well as a council-led investigation into mushrooms sold at Asian grocers in south east Melbourne.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Kristian and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Court reporter Kristian Silva and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

May 22, 202525 min

18 | Erin Patterson’s alleged search history examined

Bing search results for the citizen science website iNaturalist were found on devices at the Patterson home, in evidence presented by the prosecution today.Kristian Silva and Stephen Stockwell recap the evidence from digital forensics officer, Dr Shamen Fox Henry, and answer more audience questions.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Kristian and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Court reporter Kristian Silva and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

May 21, 202517 min

17 | Doubt cast over location data placing Erin near death caps

Erin Patterson's defence team got to work today, casting doubt over evidence that places the accused near death cap mushroom sightings.In today's episode, Kristian Silva and Stephen Stockwell talk through the defence’s strategy, explain some CCTV vision the jury was shown, and honour an uninvited visitor to the courtroom. If you've got questions about the case that you’d like Kristian and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected] It's the case that's captured the attention of the world. Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson. Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she’s innocent. Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Court reporter Kristian Silva and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court. From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom. Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

May 20, 202518 min

16 | Erin Patterson's movements traced by location expert

Today was all about that base (station), as a mobile phone location data expert traced Erin Patterson's alleged movements in the months before the deadly beef Wellington lunch. The data showed Erin's phone connecting to base stations in Loch and Outtrim – locations where death cap mushrooms were said to be growing. In this episode Kristian Silva and Stephen Stockwell explain the data analysis, including some of its limitations in pinpointing a person's precise movements.If you've got questions about the case that you’d like Kristian and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected] It's the case that's captured the attention of the world. Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson. Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent. Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Court reporter Kristian Silva and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court. From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom. Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

May 19, 202518 min

15 | Death caps, DNA and drama. Our Friday Wrap

Three weeks into Erin Patterson's triple-murder trial, we review the key evidence the jury has heard, and the pressure they are under to absorb enormous volumes of expert evidence. Investigative reporter Rachael Brown joins Kristian Silva and Stephen Stockwell for our weekly wrap, where she champions the trial’s “cool nerds” and explores what’s driving the growing public interest in the case. If you’ve got questions about the case that you’d like Kristian and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world. Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson. Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she’s innocent. Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Court reporter Kristian Silva and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court. From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom. Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

May 16, 202532 min

14 | Juror kicked out of Erin Patterson's trial

A juror has been dismissed, after reports he was discussing the trial with family and friends. As the day progressed, the remaining jurors heard evidence from a child protection worker who spoke with Erin about her estranged husband Simon, her parents in law, and why she chose to cook the beef Wellington recipe.In today's episode, Kristian Silva and Stephen Stockwell also recap evidence from a toxicologist who assessed the remains of the Wellington which were fished from the bin.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Kristian and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected] It's the case that's captured the attention of the world. Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson. Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she’s innocent. Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Court reporter Kristian Silva and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court. From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom. Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

May 15, 202521 min

13 | Dumping the dehydrator — CCTV shows Erin's trip to the tip

The jury for Erin Patterson's murder trial today saw CCTV footage of the moment she dumped her dehydrator, which the prosecution alleges she used to prepare death cap mushrooms.In this episode, Kristian Silva and Stephen Stockwell also recap evidence about the wellington remains, and how the defence spent two hours interrogating a mushroom expert about the difficulty identifying death caps.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Kristian and Stocky to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world. Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson. Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she’s innocent. Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Court reporter Kristian Silva and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court. From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom. Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

May 13, 202521 min

12 | Mushroom expert "funkeytom" takes the stand

At the start of Erin Patterson's trial, the prosecution alleged she travelled to places death cap mushrooms had been spotted. Today, the man who posted some pictures of mushrooms in those areas online gave his evidence.Dr Tom May, a mushroom expert who uses the username "funkeytom" on the iNaturalist website, told the court how to identify death cap mushrooms. Doctors also gave evidence, explaining that Erin Patterson's tests in hospital appeared normal.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Kristian to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected] It's the case that's captured the attention of the world. Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson. Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she’s innocent. Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Court reporter Kristian Silva and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court. From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom. Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

May 13, 202519 min

11 | Mushrooms, motive and reasonable doubt – your questions answered

Erin Patterson’s trial has taken a break today, but the Mushroom Case Daily team hasn’t – we’ve prepared this special Q&A episode.Today, Kristian Silva and Stephen Stockwell open up the Mushroom Case Daily mailbag and answer some of the hundreds of questions we’ve received, including the source of the mushrooms used in the lunch, the defence team’s strategy and whether Erin Patterson will take the stand.If you’ve got questions about the case that you’d like Kristian to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world. Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson. Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she’s innocent. Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Court reporter Kristian Silva and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court. From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom. Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

May 12, 202524 min

10 | What happened to the leftovers? Our Friday wrap

The second week of Erin Patterson's murder trial has now finished. Friends, doctors and Erin's children have mapped the aftermath of the lunch.In this episode, Kristian Silva and Stephen Stockwell discuss the Patterson children's evidence, wrap up the week's most memorable moments with investigative reporter Rachael Brown, and let some curious listeners in on a bit of podcast behind the scenes.If you've got questions about the case that you'd like Kristian to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]'s the case that's captured the attention of the world.Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson.Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she's innocent.Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Court reporter Kristian Silva and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court.From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom.Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

May 9, 202533 min

9 | Erin Patterson in tears during daughter's evidence

Today the jury heard evidence from Erin Patterson’s daughter, who was nine-years-old when she was interviewed by police. In this episode Kristian Silva and Stephen Stockwell discuss what she said and how Erin reacted. They also break down what medical experts said about Erin’s condition in hospital, and the potential source of the deadly mushrooms. If you’ve got questions about the case that you’d like Kristian to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected] It's the case that's captured the attention of the world. Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson. Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she’s innocent. Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Court reporter Kristian Silva and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court. From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom. Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

May 8, 202517 min

8 | Doctor’s grave warnings to Erin

There were tears in the courtroom as children of the deceased lunch guests shared their stories. Plus, a Leongatha doctor described his attempts to convince Erin Patterson of the seriousness of her situation - and potentially her children’s conditions - after she presented to hospital complaining of diarrhoea. In today’s episode, Kristian Silva and Stephen Stockwell also answer questions about the taste of Erin’s beef wellington, the timing of her dehydrator dumping, and why witnesses aren’t giving their opinion on Erin’s guilt or innocence. If you’ve got questions about the case that you’d like Kristian to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected] It's the case that's captured the attention of the world. Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson. Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she’s innocent. Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Court reporter Kristian Silva and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court. From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom. Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

May 7, 202519 min

7 | Lunch survivor Ian Wilkinson speaks

Ian Wilkinson survived the beef wellington lunch Erin Patterson held on July 29, 2023. Ian was the pastor at the Patterson’s church in Korumburra, and other than Erin, he’s the only other person who knows what happened when all the guests were there that day. In court today, he gave his testimony. Kristian Silva and Stephen Stockwell talk through his evidence, the surprising moments that cut the tension in the courtroom, and they recap evidence from other witnesses. If you’ve got questions about the case that you’d like Kristian to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected] It's the case that's captured the attention of the world. Three people died and a fourth survived an induced coma after eating beef wellington at a family lunch, hosted by Erin Patterson. Police allege the beef wellington contained poisonous mushrooms, but Erin Patterson says she’s innocent. Now, the accused triple murderer is fighting the charges in a regional Victorian courthouse. Court reporter Kristian Silva and producer Stephen Stockwell are on the ground, bringing you all the key moments from the trial as they unravel in court. From court recaps to behind-the-scenes murder trial explainers, the Mushroom Case Daily podcast is your eyes and ears inside the courtroom. Keep up to date with new episodes of Mushroom Case Daily, now releasing every day on the ABC listen app.

May 6, 202520 min

6 | “She seemed to really like mushrooms”

Erin Patterson's Facebook friends describe her as a woman who loved her kids, seemed to really like mushrooms and was at the center of a strained relationship. As Erin Patterson’s triple murder trial enters its second week, Kristian Silva and Stephen Stockwell talk through how Erin repeatedly brought up mushrooms and asked for advice on how to cook beef Wellington. If you’ve got questions about the case that you’d like Kristian to answer in future episodes, send them through to [email protected]

May 5, 202520 min

5 | A tragic accident or ultimate betrayal? Our Friday wrap

Erin Patterson’s triple-murder trial has reached the end of its dramatic first week. We’ve heard about false cancer claims, a close bond with those who died and how her relationship with her estranged husband crumbled.

May 2, 202527 min

4 | 'Hope you'll change your mind': Erin pleads with husband to attend lunch

On the second day of Erin Patterson’s triple murder trial, her estranged husband, Simon Patterson took the stand.

May 1, 202517 min

03 | Individual wellingtons, coloured plates, and a false cancer claim

The prosecution laid out its case against Erin Patterson today, but no motive was offered. The defence fired back in its opening, saying the deaths were a terrible accident but the jury must focus on whether Erin Patterson intended to poison her relatives.

Apr 30, 202523 min

02 | Patterson no longer charged with trying to kill husband

Erin Patterson's jury has been picked and the judge has explained how some of the original attempted murder charges have been dropped.

Apr 29, 202514 min

01 | ‘Mushroom murder’ trial poised to begin

The murder trial of Erin Patterson starts this week. Kristian and Stocky break down the week ahead and what to expect in the courtroom.

Apr 28, 20257 min

The Jury: a heavy weight of responsibility

Speaking up with your opinion may never be as important as when you’re deliberating with your fellow jurors.

Jan 5, 202523 min

The Prosecutor: proving beyond reasonable doubt

What’s it like prosecuting an accused murderer? Kristian and Stocky find out from someone who’s done it many times.

Jan 5, 202520 min

The Defence: representing an accused murderer

Take a peek into the world of a barrister who defends society’s most reviled characters.

Jan 5, 202522 min

Surviving death cap mushrooms

There are very few people who’ve survived a death cap mushroom poisoning. Simon Claringbold is one of them.In this episode he describes what it was like in ‘the death zone,’ as his vision narrowed and he accepted his fate, before a miraculous turnaround saw him walk out of hospital.

Oct 20, 202421 min