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How to start your own country
Season 1 · Episode 749

How to start your own country

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

October 21, 202229m 40s

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Show Notes

As separatist movements across the globe try to establish new nations, how do you actually go about creating a new country? What is the project management plan for independence? Political science professor Matt Qvortrup joins Ahir Shah to discuss how a new state is made in the 21st century, covered in his new book I Want to Break Free: A Practical Guide to Making a New Country.


  • “Independence referendums are won by appealing to people’s heart strings.”
  • “The Scottish independence referendum is good example of what not to do in an independence referendum.”
  • “Becoming independent is not a panacea.”



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Written and presented by Ahir Shah. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Producers: Jacob Archbold, Jelena Sofronijevic and Alex Rees. Assistant producer: Kasia Tomasiewicz. Audio production by Jade Bailey. Music: Kenny Dickinson. Group editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production. 

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