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Germany, tanks and Ukraine: Why Scholz had to change his mind
Season 1 · Episode 849

Germany, tanks and Ukraine: Why Scholz had to change his mind

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

February 2, 202328m 6s

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Show Notes

Germany’s delay sending Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine frustrated European allies – will it do lasting damage to relations on the continent? Was this a missed opportunity for Scholz to have led the way internationally in the fight against Russia? Alex Andreou speaks to Jeremy Cliffe, New Statesman’s writer-at-large based in Berlin, to discuss Germany’s position and what it tells us about the nation. 


  • “Germany’s perspective on the world has required adjusting… it has edged towards making more responsibility.” 
  • “It took too long for Scholz to grapple with the problems, reflection is one thing, putting one’s head in the sand is another.” 
  • “Germany’s political culture moves quite gradually and slowly.” 
  • “Being highly methodological and efficient can also lead to great inefficiency.” 


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Presented by Alex Andreou. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Audio production: Robin Leeburn. Lead Producer: Jacob Jarvis. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production


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