
Show overview
The Build With ICF Podcast has been publishing since 2023, and across the 3 years since has built a catalogue of 70 episodes. That works out to roughly 50 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a fortnightly cadence.
Episodes typically run thirty-five to sixty minutes — most land between 38 min and 48 min — and the run-time is fairly consistent across the catalogue. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Business show.
The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 2 weeks ago, with 11 episodes already out so far this year. The busiest year was 2024, with 34 episodes published. Published by BuildWithICF.com.
From the publisher
Welcome to the Build With ICF podcast with your hosts Trevor Brown and Heather Hering-Brown. With over 20 years of ICF installation, technical, and sales experience Trevor is considered an industry expert…on the other side of the table is Heather, aka the Girl Boss, and she has earned that title as the award winning owner of an ICF building company as well as a ICF drafting & design company…SLEEVES UP, BOOTS ON, this is the Build With ICF Podcast.
Latest Episodes
View all 70 episodesBuild With ICF Podcast Episode 70 - Carbon Custom Builders - Sam Fertik
Ep 71Build With ICF Episode 69 How to Join WICFA
In this episode Trevor Brown and Heather Hering-Brown introduce the official launch of The World Insulated Concrete Form Association (WICFA), explain membership options (manufacturers, industry pros, DIYers), and walk listeners through signup, app access, and Founders Club perks. They also outline community features — a monitored code of conduct, a marketplace and job board, events and training, and the Stack Club referral rewards — and invite listeners to join, participate, and help grow the ICF industry. JOIN NOW https://members.wicfa.com/member-application Any Questions?? [email protected]
Ep 70Build With ICF Podcast Episode 68 Becoming an ICF Installer
Trevor Brown and Heather Hering-Brown discuss the launch of WICFA and practical steps to become an ICF installer—from online learning and hands‑on training to on‑site experience, certifications, and building relationships with manufacturers. They cover low startup costs, crew-sizing strategies, marketing tips, and industry opportunities, and invite listeners to join the WICFA waitlist and contact BuildWithICF for training and support. Any Questions shoot us an email at [email protected] or hit us up on Socials @BuildWithICF And don't forget to get on the WICFA Waitlist www.wicfa.org
Ep 69Build With ICF Podcast Episode 67 - Dave Phelps on Building High-Performance Homes
Two experts in ICF, decades of experience, one podcast: hosts Trevor Brown and Heather Hering-Brown sit down with Dave Phelps of ICF Homes of Virginia. They cover Dave’s journey from physics to custom ICF homes, how content and social media grew his business, DIY and reduced-scope options, the massive ‘castle’ project, thermal mass performance and HVAC sizing, industry advocacy, and the launch of WICFA. Practical insights for builders, DIYers, and anyone curious about insulated concrete form construction. Dave also talks about a really cool program he participates in called 1-4-1 Project that supports those in need of shelter around the world by building one home for a family in need for every one home we build here in the US. Here is the link to learn more The 1-4-1 Project And you can get hold of Dave with any questions via email Dave@ICFHomesofVA Or on IG @ICF_Homes or on YouTube ICF Homes Virginia And as alway you can reach us on Socials @BuildWithICF and email [email protected]
Ep 68Build With ICF Podcast Episode 66 - WICFA Pt. 2 - Why Now? And MORE Great Questions
In episode 66 Trevor Brown and Heather Hering Brown answer the top questions about the new World Insulated Concrete Form Association (WICFA), explaining why industry momentum is building now and what sets this association apart. They cover the inaugural founders board, membership tiers (manufacturers, industry professionals, and DIY), the GrowthZone member hub with community pages and a job/bid board, sponsorship options, planned meetings, disaster-response advocacy, and concrete ways listeners can help. Go get on the WAIT LIST!! WICFA.org Any questions?? Send us an email [email protected]
Ep 67Build With ICF Podcast Episode 65 - Pow-R-Wall and Rub-R-Wall
Two experts in ICF and decades of field experience come together on the Build With ICF podcast with hosts Trevor Brown and Heather Hering Brown. In Episode 65 Troy Mohr and Andy Hobbs introduce Resilient Building Products — the merger of Pow-R-Wall (formerly Hobbs) and Rub-R-Wall — and discuss innovative ICF systems, reduced concrete contour walls, integrated waterproofing, and strategies to speed and simplify foundation construction. They cover distribution and logistics, applicator training and support, the benefits of panelization, and how these solutions fit rising energy codes and the needs of builders seeking durable, efficient, and resilient foundations. Links and contact info are provided in the show notes for follow-up. Check them out at Pow-R-Wall.com and Rub-R-Wall.com Or shoot them an email at [email protected] and [email protected] As always follow us on social @BuildWithICF.com and email us at [email protected] with any show questions or idea for new episodes.
Ep 66Build With ICF Podcast Episode 64 ICF Pool King: Aaron King with All 3 Pools
Join hosts Trevor and Heather Brown as they sit down with Aaron "Pool King" King, an ICF expert who transformed from builder to award-winning ICF pool master. With decades of experience, Aaron shares his journey into ICF pools, lessons learned, and why monopours and proper training matter. The hands-on pioneer. With a finance degree in real estate from Missouri State University, Aaron has built more than 100 ICF pools across the Midwest and Gulf Coast since first working with ICF in 2013–2014. He is the driving force behind monopour ICF pool construction, with signature projects including the Condor Infinity Edge Pool, Shaw Hollow Infinity-Edge Pool, and Dauphin Island Beach Pool. His work has earned multiple top honors from ICF Builder Magazine and the People’s Choice Award at World of Concrete. Follow his builds on our ICF Guru YouTube channel. This episode also covers practical how-to advice for DIYers and builders, innovations in pool finishes and materials, and resources like AllThreePools.com and ICF Guru — plus a look at the new World Insulated Concrete Form Association (WICFA) and the future of ICF construction. Reach out to Aaron on YouTube www.youtube.com/@all3pools Email him at [email protected] And as always hit us up at [email protected] or @BuildWithICF on Socials and get on the WICFA Wait List https://wicfa.org/
Ep 65Build With ICF Podcast Episode 63 World Insulated Concrete Form Association Launch: Building a Unified Voice for ICF
Two ICF experts and podcast hosts, Trevor Brown and Heather Hering Brown, announce the launch of the World Insulated Concrete Form Association (WICFA). The episode outlines WICFA’s mission to promote, protect, and advance ICF through advocacy, education, industry collaboration, directories, certified installer training, member forums, discounts, and events. The hosts explain membership tiers, pricing, Founders Club perks, plans for lobbying and PACs, partnerships with manufacturers, continuing education credits, and upcoming events like World of Concrete. They invite listeners to join the waitlist at WICFA.org Contact us at [email protected] or @BuildWithICF on socials
Ep 64Build With ICF Podcast Episode 62 IBS ReCap and Stories from the Road
Hosts Trevor Brown and Heather Hering Brown recap an action-packed month covering live trainings, trade shows, and on-site experiences from Indiana to the Florida Keys. They announce the formal launch of the World Insulated Concrete Form Association (WICFA), discuss industry advocacy through NAHB, share lessons from diverse job site builds (including Amish communities and a hurricane-rated car museum), and preview upcoming guests and projects. Episode 62 highlights networking wins, ICF adoption across different markets, and how community involvement and associations can drive industry growth. Sign up for the WICFA Waiting List at WICFA.org Reach out to us at [email protected] and @BuildWithICF on Socials.
Ep 63Build With ICF Podcast Episode 61 World of Concrete Recap
Two experts in ICF — Trevor Brown and Heather Hering-Brown — recap their World of Concrete experience, industry buzz, and product discoveries from decades of hands-on work in ICF installation, drafting, and design. The episode highlights new tools, plan books tailored to block manufacturers, manufacturing and accessory innovations, and personal show stories and shout-outs to builders, distributors, and vendors they met. Listeners’ top questions are addressed, including termite and rodent concerns, adding ICF safe rooms to existing homes, and structural GFRP updates; practical solutions and product suggestions are shared. They also discuss building industry connections, the idea of an associate ICF association, upcoming events and classes, and how to reach the Build With ICF team for plans, referrals, or questions. Follow us @BuildWithICF and email us at [email protected]
Ep 62Build With ICF Podcast Episode 60 - World of Concrete 2026 Preview
Two ICF experts with decades of experience—Trevor Brown and Heather Hering-Brown—share quick, practical tips for getting the most out of World of Concrete. From using the show app and planning booth visits to making supplier connections, what to expect, and must-see events like the ICF Builder Awards. Download the app, bring comfortable shoes, and plan your show to touch blocks, meet reps, and discover new products. See you at North Hall!
Ep 61Build With ICF Podcast Episode 59 - 2025 Year In Review
In this episode hosts Trevor Brown and Heather Hering-Brown recap 2025 and the 20 NEW episodes that were produced and launched. From episode 39 about trade shows to the latest podcast with Hulk Waterproofing they hit the highlights of the year. They also take time to thank YOU the listener for all the shout outs and help promoting The Build With ICF Podcast on other platforms. Thank you ALL and here's to an amazing 2026!!
Ep 58Build With ICF Podcast Episode 58 Hulk Waterproofing Part 2
ICF experts Trevor Brown and Heather Hering-Brown host a deep-dive interview with Brandon and Nikki from Hulk Systems Waterproofing. They revisit Hulks core waterproofing system, the unique textile-reinforced composite, and real-world benefits like elasticity, eco-safety, and ease of application for ICF foundations and unfinished basements. The guests also discuss Hulks expanding distributor and dealer network, product evolution (including cementitious and roofing coatings), international growth plans, and ambitious fireproofing developments aimed at protecting structures in extreme conditions. Follow Hulk @HulkSystems on IG and @HulkSystems966 on YouTube and www.HulkSystems.com And come see them at the International Builders Show 2026 in Orlando, Florida Booth #TBD as well as the Resilient City Show Booth #RC530 And as always Follow Us @BuildWithICF on socials and www.BuildWithICF.com
Ep 57Build With ICF Podcast Episode 57 - Mike Cleary Quantum Panels: The Next Big Leap in ICF Construction
Hosts Trevor and Heather Brown welcome Michael Cleary — an ICF panelization pioneer — to discuss his path from hotel developer to innovator and the new Quantum large-format ICF panels. Michael explains how 8×8 and 8×12 one-piece panels with a unique hub system, horizontal and vertical furring, and snap-in attachments simplify installation, add R-value, and enable faster panelized construction. The episode covers real-world experience (multi-story hotel builds and NYC panelization), manufacturing breakthroughs that cut costs and shipping complexity, and how Quantum panels aim to speed projects, reduce labor, and open new options for exterior attachments and mechanical integration. Reach out to Mike via email at [email protected] or [email protected] Or his website QuantumICFPanels.com And on Instagram @ICFPanels
Ep 56Build With ICF Podcast Episode 56 - It's YOUR Choice to Build With ICF
Hosts Trevor Brown and Heather Hering Brown deliver a passionate, practical episode about building with insulated concrete forms (ICF). They emphasize that homeowners must lead the project, choose the right draftsman, block manufacturer, general contractor, and subcontractors, and educate the team early to avoid costly pushback. The episode covers common friction points — HVAC, electricians, block selection, permitting, and local support — and offers concrete steps: research suppliers, use ICF training and resources, involve manufacturers and inspectors early, and build a true partnership with your team. Ultimately, the hosts urge listeners to stand firm for the home they want, use available resources, and reach out for help so their ICF projects run smoothly and deliver long-term value. Reach out to us at [email protected] or on Social @BuildWithICF
Ep 55BWICF Episode 55 Gary Fetters ICF Specialist and Castle Rock Homes
Our Hosts Trevor Brown and Heather Hering Brown, speak to Gary Fetters of ICF Specialist and Castle Rock Homes out of Arizona to discuss his ICF journey, the viral Lego house, successful hotel and commercial projects, and the advantages of insulated concrete forms for energy savings, safety, and long-term value. And check out their music video... https://youtu.be/LdU-vX_UoPw?si=Fi-1V9knMhGCQKF4 Give the a follow on InstaGram Castle Rock Homes ICF Specialist Or on YouTube ICF Specialist YouTube Check us out BuildWithICF.com or @BuildWithICF on Instagram
Ep 54Build With ICF Episode 54 - Concrete Construction Supply Sales Tips with Tim Hall
Host Trevor Brown welcomes Tim Hall of Concrete Construction Supply (CCS) to discuss how a regional supplier is pushing ICF, MST rebar, and Hulk waterproofing into new markets. The episode covers product benefits, distributor strategy, and how CCS integrates Superform, rebar fabrication, and specialty products to grow business. Tim and Trevor also share practical sales lessons—old‑school job site outreach, relationship building, training inside teams, and leveraging manufacturer support—offering actionable advice for salespeople, contractors, and suppliers interested in building with ICF and expanding their product lines.
Ep 53Build With ICF Podcast Episode 53 Penna Construction’s 27-Year ICF Story
On this episode of Build With ICF, host Trevor Brown interview Tony Penna of Penna Construction about 27 years working with insulated concrete forms (ICF). Tony shares how they got started, memorable projects from sound studios to the award-winning Type 1A fire‑resistant home, and how their family team and dealer business evolved. The conversation covers the benefits of ICF, the urgent need for more trained installers and young professionals, industry outreach through NAHB and World of Concrete, and practical steps for architects, contractors, and homeowners interested in safer, more durable construction. Please reach out to Tony and his team at Penna Construction [email protected] check out their website PennaContructionInc.com And give them a follow on InstaGram @PennaConstructionInc
Ep 52Build With ICF Podcast Episode 52 - Palisades Fire Event ReCap with Jacob Schnibbe from SuperForm
Episode 52 – Rebuilding Stronger After the Palisades Fire In this special episode of the Build with ICF Podcast, hosts Trevor Brown and Heather Herring Brown recap their experience at the Palisades Fire Recovery Event and the Team Palisades Trade Show. This event brought together builders, manufacturers, and community members with a shared goal: rebuilding stronger, safer, and more resilient homes. Key Highlights TeamPalisades.org – Learn how this community-driven initiative is connecting fire victims with resources, experts, and proven building solutions. Super Form ICF – Jacob from Superform joins the discussion to share how insulated concrete forms provide unmatched fire resistance, energy efficiency, and seismic performance. Reach out at [email protected] Vulcan Vents – A critical component in wildfire defense, reducing the risk of embers entering attics and crawlspaces. Hulk Waterproofing Systems – Next-level waterproof coatings that protect ICF structures and enhance durability. UStucco – Fire-resistant stucco systems that pair seamlessly with ICF for both beauty and protection. MST Fiberglass Rebar – Non-corrosive, non-combustible reinforcement for long-term structural performance. Discussion Topics First-hand insights from the Team Palisades trade show How vendors are collaborating to bring fire-resistant, affordable solutions to homeowners Cost comparisons and seismic benefits of ICF construction Practical planning tips for rebuilding after a wildfire Real-world input from local installers on the ground Penna Construction Resources available for families who want to build back smarter and stronger Whether you’re a builder, homeowner, or community leader, this episode highlights the innovation and teamwork shaping the future of fire-resilient construction. 👉 Learn more and support recovery efforts at TeamPalisades.org
Ep 51Build With ICF Podcast Episode 51 Josh Miller with Highmark ICF and The ICF Guys
Join Trevor Brown and Heather Hering Brown on the Build With ICF podcast as they dive deep into the world of Insulated Concrete Forms (ICF), sharing their wealth of experience in ICF installation, sales, marketing, and construction management. In this episode, they welcome special guest Josh Miller from Highmark ICF, widely recognized as 'The ICF Guy' on Instagram, known for his impressive work and social media presence. Josh shares his journey into the world of ICF, from his first construction project to becoming a prominent figure in the industry, known for his innovative use of social media to showcase ICF projects. The episode uncovers ICF's challenges and rewards, offers insightful discussions on advanced ICF construction techniques like concrete decking, and emphasizes the importance of embracing new technologies such as fiberglass rebar to improve building efficiency and safety. With lively discussions, expert tips, and memorable anecdotes, this episode provides a unique glimpse into the growing world of ICF construction, offering valuable insights for both industry professionals and anyone interested in sustainable building solutions. Check him out @The_ICF_Guys on Instagram And as always hit us up @BuildWithICF on socials and [email protected]