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Stephan Livera - Paper Bitcoin or not, Bitcoin is going to $10 Million

Stephan Livera - Paper Bitcoin or not, Bitcoin is going to $10 Million

The Bitcoin Matrix · Cedric Youngelman

July 28, 20251h 14m

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<p>In this episode, I chat with Stephan Livera, Bitcoin educator, host of the Stephan Livera Podcast, and advisor at Bold Bitcoin. We explore his journey of escaping the lockdowns in Australia to build a new life in Dubai, and how his libertarian values and understanding of Bitcoin economics shaped that decision.</p> <p>Stephan also shares his thoughts on cycles, proof of reserves, the role of stablecoins, and the long-term outlook for hyperbitcoinization.</p> <p>––– Offers & Discounts –––</p> <p>Theya is the world’s simplest Bitcoin self-custody solution. Download Theya Now at theya.us/cedric</p> <p>Get up to $100 in Bitcoin on River at river.com/matrix</p> <p>The best Team Bitcoin merch is at HodlersOfficial.com. Use the code Matrix for a discount on your order.</p> <p>Become a sponsor of the show: https://thebitcoinmatrix.com/sponsors/</p> <p>––– Get To Know Today's Guest –––</p> <p>• Stephan Livera on X: https://x.com/stephanlivera</p> <p>––– Socials –––</p> <p>• Check out our new website at https://TheBitcoinMatrix.Com</p> <p>• Follow Cedric Youngelman on X: https://x.com/cedyoungelman</p> <p>• Follow The Bitcoin Matrix Podcast on X: https://x.com/_bitcoinmatrix</p> <p>• Follow Cedric Youngelman on Nostr: npub12tq9jxmt707gd5vnce3tqllpm67ktr0mqskcvy58qqa4d074pz9s4ukdcs</p> <p>––– Chapters –––</p> <p>00:00 - Intro</p> <p>01:09 - Escaping Australia and the Birth of a New Life in Dubai</p> <p>06:34 - How Bitcoin and Libertarianism Shaped Stephan’s Exit</p> <p>12:09 - Feeling Disconnected from Home and Becoming a Global Citizen</p> <p>16:24 - The Allure of Dubai and Its Strategic Advantages</p> <p>18:54 - Bitcoin Core vs. Knots, Ordinals, and Relay Filters</p> <p>23:09 - Consensus vs. Policy and Mining Centralization Risks</p> <p>28:09 - Core Development, Multiple Implementations, and GitHub Controversy</p> <p>32:34 - Bitcoin Core Funding and Developer Incentives</p> <p>35:54 - Bitcoin Treasury Companies and Fiat Arbitrage Opportunities</p> <p>40:09 - Understanding Risk and the Premium to NAV Debate</p> <p>45:29 - Global Perspectives: Trapped Capital, Arbitrage, and Institutional Flows</p> <p>49:49 - The Future of Treasury Companies and Their Evolution</p> <p>55:09 - Nation-State Adoption and Libertarian Reflections</p> <p>58:24 - Market Cycles, Future Peaks, and Drawdowns</p> <p>01:04:49 - Is It Too Late to Stack? Advice for Friends and Family</p> <p>01:07:54 - Inflation, Recess from the Rulers, and the Tether Debate</p> <p>01:11:03 - Seven Years of Bitcoin Podcasting: What Keeps Stephan Going</p> <p>01:12:28 - Aha Moments, Power Laws, and the Path to Hyperbitcoinization</p> <p>DISCLAIMER: All views in this episode are our own and DO NOT reflect the opinions/views of any of our guests or sponsors.</p> <p>Produced by nilli studio (https://x.com/nillistudio)</p> <p>I want to take a moment to express my heartfelt gratitude to all of you for tuning in, supporting the show, and contributing.</p> <p>Thank you for listening!</p>