The Better Contractor Podcast

In this episode of The Better Contractor Podcast, hosts Brent Oberlink and Travis May discuss  the essence of entrepreneurship with guest Chans Weber, where risk and grit play pivotal roles in shaping success. Our guests share their unfiltered experiences, from navigating toxic business partnerships to understanding the importance of data-driven decisions in marketing. They discuss the hard truths about entrepreneurship—it's not for everyone, and it requires an unwavering commitment to push through the challenges. Whether you're young and scrappy or finding yourself questioning a corporate path later in life, this conversation will resonate with anyone who's ever contemplated taking the leap into entrepreneurship. Discover the importance of knowing who you are, the value of mental toughness, and why it’s never too late to pivot if you have the guts to do it.

Join us in this episode as Brent Oberlink and Travis May sit down with Jacki Saxton, a dynamic Account Manager at Agile & Co Digital Marketing Agency. Jacki brings a wealth of knowledge and experience to the table, with a career that seamlessly blends her passion for education and digital marketing. With over a decade spent shaping young minds as a Secondary Social Studies Teacher, Jacki made a bold transition into the world of SEO and digital marketing, where she now leads innovative strategies for a diverse range of clients. Certified in HubSpot and Google Ads, and with expertise across platforms like Google Ads, Meta, and LinkedIn, Jacki shares her unique journey and offers invaluable insights into the evolving digital landscape. Whether you're interested in digital marketing, career transitions, or just love hearing stories of personal and professional growth, this episode is for you. Tune in to hear how Jacki's background in education has influenced her approach to marketing and learn how she's driving success in the industry today.

Join us in this insightful episode with Brent Oberlink and Travis May as they delve into the essential qualities that define effective leadership. Explore the importance of laser-focused execution without losing sight of the big picture, and learn how consistent execution and follow-through build trust and reliability within a team. Discover the significance of clear and concise communication, and how consistency in emotions, responses, and actions fosters stability and trust. Finally, we discuss the critical role of emotional intelligence, emphasizing genuine care and understanding for team members. Join us as we uncover the attributes that set apart exceptional leaders and inspire you to elevate your own leadership skills.

In this episode of The Better Contractor, Brent Oberlink and Travis May explore the essential qualities of grit and discipline, drawing on their personal experiences in the military and entrepreneurship. They delve into the distinctions between externally imposed and self-imposed discipline, and how these concepts translate into the business world. The discussion also covers the four key components of grit—courage, perseverance, adaptability, and resilience—as outlined in Rich Davini's book "Attributes." Through anecdotes and reflections, they illustrate how these traits are crucial for overcoming unexpected challenges, such as those faced during the COVID-19 pandemic, and for achieving long-term success in business. The episode wraps up with an inspiring story about learning from failure and the importance of maintaining a long-term vision, underscoring the role of resilience and adaptability in personal and professional growth.

In this episode of The Better Contractor Podcast, Brent Oberlink delves into the transformative experiences of young entrepreneur, Jadie Keck, who began her journey through the CEO program. Coming from a small school, she shares how the skills acquired through the program set her apart, enabling her to confidently engage with professors and peers. The CEO program didn't just provide business knowledge; it fostered personal growth, enhancing her communication skills and professional demeanor. Mentorship played a pivotal role in her development, offering not just business insights but also valuable life lessons. The discussion touches on the challenges and rewards of creating and managing a small business, stressing the importance of deadlines, teamwork, and the ability to adapt and learn from failures. The episode wraps up with a discussion on the lasting impact of the CEO program and the enduring value of mentorship, highlighting the desire to give back to the community and mentor future generations. This episode is a testament to the CEO program's power in shaping not just careers but also character, preparing young individuals to thrive in the business world and beyond.

In this episode of The Better Contractor, hosts Brent Oberlink and Travis May delve into essential strategies for distinguishing your business in a crowded market. They discuss the power of a unique selling proposition and how it can be the cornerstone of your business identity. The hosts explore effective branding techniques, emphasizing the importance of creating a memorable and impactful brand that resonates with your target audience. They highlight the critical role of high-quality equipment in enhancing your service delivery and building a reputation for reliability and excellence. Tune in to scale your business.Click here to tune in:  https://linktr.ee/thebettercontractor

Welcome back to The Better Contractor Podcast. In this episode, Brent Oberlink and Travis May share insightful tips into the pivotal role of emotional intelligence in leadership. They discuss how emotional intelligence (EI) involves recognizing, understanding, and managing our own emotions while empathizing with others. Brent and Travis emphasize the importance of leaders developing self-awareness and self-regulation to inspire confidence and trust within their teams.The conversation also addresses the misconception that emotional intelligence means being emotionless or overly agreeable. Instead, true EI involves genuine empathy and the ability to navigate tough conversations without losing composure. Brent and Travis explore how effective leaders use emotional intelligence to foster meaningful connections and drive positive outcomes. Tune in for practical tips and strategies to enhance your leadership skills through the power of emotional intelligence.

Join us on this episode of The Better Contractor Podcast with hosts Brent Oberlink and Travis May for an enlightening conversation with Billy Davis, the owner of Arborscapes, a successful tree care company with over 20 years of dedication and excellence. Billy shares his inspiring passion of transforming perceptions of tree care work from temporary jobs to long-term professions, emphasizing the importance of integrity and ethical business practices.With an impressive 80% customer retention rate, Billy reveals the secrets behind his success, focusing on honesty in sales and a steadfast commitment to doing what’s right. This episode is packed with valuable insights for anyone in the tree care industry or those looking to build a business founded on trust and strong customer relationships.Tune in to discover how Billy’s unwavering dedication to integrity and excellence has distinguished his company in a competitive market. Don’t miss out on this opportunity to learn from a true industry leader!

Join hosts Brent Oberlink and Travis May on The Better Contractor Podcast as they dive into the world of marketing for trades industries. In this episode, they explore the critical role of marketing in shaping a company's reputation, attracting customers, and recruiting top talent. From engaging content creation to leveraging social media and the latest AI technologies, discover practical tips and strategies to elevate your marketing game. Whether you're in lawn care, landscaping, tree services, or building trades, this podcast provides valuable insights to help you stand out in a competitive market. Tune in to learn how to effectively tell your story, promote your unique strengths, and build a strong, professional presence online.#Arboriculture #TreeCare #SafetyTraining #UrbanForestry #TCIA #ISA #ChainsawSafety #ClimbingTechniques #WorkplaceSafety #TreeIndustry #TheBetterContractorPodcaast #entrepreneur #businessgrowth #marketing

Welcome back to this insightful episode of The Better Contractor as we discuss the world of tree care and safety with Kristoffer Rasmussen, a seasoned arborist and safety expert. From his humble beginnings on a family farm in Wisconsin to becoming a leading figure in arboriculture training and safety, Kristoffer shares his journey and the passion that drives him. We explore the importance of safety protocols, the evolution of tree care technology, and the role of accreditation in elevating industry standards. Discover valuable insights into creating a culture of safety, the benefits of advanced training techniques, and the future of arboriculture with emerging technologies. Whether you're an industry professional or simply curious about the art and science of tree care, this episode offers a wealth of knowledge and inspiration. Tune in and learn how dedication to safety and excellence can transform not only your business but the entire industry.#BetterContractorPodcast #HiringPractices #WorkforceDevelopment #PerformanceOverPedigree #CompanyCulture #EmployeeRetention #JobMarketTips #ContinuousLearning #InterviewTips #TalentAcquisition #Arboriculture #TreeCare #SafetyTraining #UrbanForestry #TCIA #ISA #ChainsawSafety #ClimbingTechniques #WorkplaceSafety #TreeIndustry

In this episode of The Better Contractor Podcast, hosts Brent Oberlink and Travis May dive into the evolving landscape of hiring practices. They challenge the traditional emphasis on formal education and status, “pedigree”, advocating instead for a focus on “performance”, the work they did and how they did it. Through engaging discussions, they highlight the importance of asking the right questions during interviews, understanding the real drivers of job stability and loyalty, and recognizing the diminishing necessity of some of our most trusted modern indicators of value in today's workforce. The conversation covers how to identify and nurture true high performers, the pivotal role of company culture in employee retention and success, and practical strategies for both employers and employees to thrive in the modern job market. Whether you're an entrepreneur looking to build a stellar team or a job seeker aiming to showcase your strengths, this episode offers invaluable insights and actionable advice.

Welcome back to The Better Contractor Podcast. In this episode, we discuss the intersection of financial acumen and crisis management with Travis May and Brent Oberlink. In this episode, they guide entrepreneurs through the maze of uncertainty, revealing the invaluable role of cash reserves and bold decision-making in weathering storms and seizing opportunities.Through real-life anecdotes and industry insights, they uncover how contractors and entrepreneurs can fortify their businesses against economic turbulence, leveraging crises as catalysts for growth and innovation. Join us as we navigate the rocky terrain of uncertainty and emerge stronger and more resilient than ever before.#TheBetterContractor #TheBetterContractorPodcast #FinancialAcumen #CrisisManagement #ContractorSuccess #BusinessResilience #DecisionMaking #Innovation #Opportunity #Adversity #GrowthStrategy #ConstructionIndustry #Entrepreneurship #entrepreneurgrowth

In this episode, join host Brent Oberlink with Travis May, Jon Keck, and Jay Keppler as they jump into the critical importance of follow-through and communication in entrepreneurship. Drawing from personal experiences and insightful anecdotes, they explore how effective communication and diligent follow-through can make or break business relationships and endeavors.From the challenges of managing customer expectations to the nuances of different communication styles, we navigate the intricate landscape of modern business interactions. Our guests share valuable insights into the impact of clear, consistent communication on customer retention, business growth, and personal reputation.Join us for a thought-provoking discussion on the art of follow-through and communication in entrepreneurship, and gain actionable insights to enhance your business practices and personal leadership skills.#landscaping #TheBetterContractorPodcast #Lanracorp #landscapeblog #treecare #arbor #entrepreneur #podcast #TheBetterContractor #BusinessEvolution #CompanyCulture  #Efficiency #EntrepreneurshipPodcast #Entrepreneurship #TheBetterContractorPodcast #TheBetterContractorblog #communication

Welcome back to The Better Contractor Podcast. Join hosts Brent Oberlink and Travis May as they discuss the critical components of creating and maintaining a consistent company culture. From discussing the importance of core values beyond mere rhetoric to exploring strategies for attracting and retaining top talent, they provide invaluable insights backed by real-world examples.Learn how to align your organization's actions with its stated values, navigate the dynamics of different generational attitudes toward work, and implement effective hiring, onboarding, and evaluation processes. Discover how fostering a culture of accountability and continuous feedback can drive long-term success and differentiation in your industry.#CompanyCulture #CoreValues #TalentRetention #GenerationalAttitudes #HiringProcesses #FeedbackCulture #LeadershipDevelopment #BusinessEvolution #CompanyCulture  #Efficiency #EntrepreneurshipPodcast #Entrepreneurship #TheBetterContractorPodcast #TheBetterContractor #Leadership #Business #BusinessOwner

In this episode of The Better Contractor Podcast, Join Brent Oberlink and Travis May as they dive into the world of business, leadership, and community service on The Better Contractor Podcast with guest, Josh Guin from Oak Bros Trees.On the episode, they discuss entrepreneurial beginnings, and pivotal moments that shaped their company's trajectory, including a transformative event that led to a renewed focus on safety and professionalism. Through candid conversations and personal anecdotes, they highlight the power of resilience, innovation, and community engagement in building a successful business.Tune in to The Better Contractor Podcast for entrepreneurial advice, industry insights, and inspiring stories that will empower you to take your contracting business to new heights while making a positive impact in your community.#GreenRevolution #SustainableLandscaping #CordlessTechnology #LandscapeInnovation #FutureofLandscaping #BatteryPower #EnvironmentalSustainability #Efficiency #CostSavings #RoboticMowers #LandscapeTech #GoCordless #GreenFuture #LandscapingTrends #EntrepreneurialMindset #OakBros

Welcome back to another episode of The Better Contractor Podcast.  In this episode, we go deep into the heart of the landscaping industry's transition to cordless technology. Hosts Brent Oberlink and Travis May are joined by industry expert Todd Zimmerman from PositecUSA to unravel the latest trends, challenges, and breakthroughs in the world of cordless landscaping equipment.Through engaging conversations, we dissect the practical implications of switching from gas-powered to cordless tools. Discover firsthand accounts from professionals who have embraced cordless technology and learn about their experiences navigating the transition.The exploration doesn't stop there. "Powering the Green Revolution" goes beyond the present, offering insights into the future of technology and entrepreneurship with discussions on emerging technologies like robotic lawnmowers in the contracting industry. Explore the potential applications of these cutting-edge tools for future success in our industry.#GreenRevolution #SustainableLandscaping #CordlessTechnology #LandscapeInnovation #FutureofLandscaping #BatteryPower #EnvironmentalSustainability #Efficiency #CostSavings #RoboticMowers #LandscapeTech #GoCordless #GreenFuture #LandscapingTrends #EntrepreneurialMindset #GreenEntrepreneurship #SustainableBusiness #LandscapeEntrepreneur

Welcome back to another episode of The Better Contractor Podcast. Whether you're a seasoned entrepreneur or just starting out, this episode provides actionable advice and inspiration for thriving in today's tech-driven world. In this engaging episode of The Better Contractor Podcast, hosts Brent Oberlink and Travis May join Jackie Guin from Oak Bros Trees to discuss the ever-evolving landscape of business in the digital age. From adopting tactical meetings inspired by "Traction" to harnessing the power of AI and innovation for enhanced efficiency, Jackie shares invaluable insights on leveraging technology to drive organizational success. Discover practical strategies for integrating cutting-edge solutions like AI, grapple trucks, and automation into your business model, all while preserving a strong company culture. Tune in for a captivating discussion on the intersection of technology, culture, and business growth.#BusinessEvolution #TechIntegration #DigitalTransformation #CompanyCulture #AIinBusiness #Robotics #Efficiency #Entrepreneurship #Innovation #PodcastDiscussion #TheBetterContractorPocast #entrepreneur

In this insightful podcast discussion, Brent Oberlink, Tucker Willms, and Travis May discuss the dynamics of effective leadership. Join us as we explore the significance of leading with logic, nurturing genuine care for team members, and fostering a culture of accountability. From personal anecdotes to practical insights, discover how to empower individuals to take ownership, communicate effectively, and drive positive change within their teams.Gain valuable strategies for navigating tough conversations, developing core values, and building a cohesive, high-performing team. Whether you're a seasoned leader or aspiring to enhance your leadership skills, this conversation offers invaluable wisdom and actionable tips to inspire and empower.#Leadership #Accountability #TeamCulture #EffectiveCommunication #PersonalDevelopment #GenuineCare #PodcastDiscussion #ProfessionalGrowth #Empowerment #TeamBuilding #LeadershipSkills #TheBetterContractorPodcast #landscapingpodcast

Welcome to the newest episode of The Better Contractor. In this episode, we embark on a transformative journey through life in the entrepreneurial landscape. Join hosts Brent Oberlink, Tucker Willms, and Travis May as they delve into the intricacies of entrepreneurship, personal growth, and leaving a lasting impact in the business world, in the contracting industry and beyond.Explore the power of discipline and consistency in shaping business success, as the hosts reveal the daily habits and mindset shifts necessary to thrive in competitive markets. From early morning gym sessions to intentional relationship-building, discover how strategic choices can drive business growth and personal fulfillment."Building Entrepreneurial Legacies" also delves into the transformative power of mentorship in shaping entrepreneurial trajectories. Drawing inspiration from mentors like John Maxwell, the hosts emphasize the invaluable role of mentorship in fostering leadership skills, strategic thinking, and resilience in the face of challenges.#landscaping #TheBetterContractorPodcast #mentorship #entrepreneurship #lawncare #landscaping #treecare #arbor #entrepreneur #podcast #TheBetterContractor #hardscaping #employeetraining #andyfrisella #75hard #Jockowillink #davidgoggins #johnmaxwell

Attack Speed and Massive Action! Transforming a business isn't only about strategic hires and innovative practices; it's also about igniting a passion that resonates from the core of its culture, a principle Michelle Wangler from Precision Landscape embodies deeply. At the heart of our latest podcast episode lies the compelling "why": cultivating a workplace not merely as a space to work, but a place to belong, grow, and contribute towards something profoundly meaningful. Michelle shared her journey of how focusing on the essence of culture and meticulous talent acquisition isn't just instrumental but transformative for Precision Landscape, elevating the team's performance and catalyzing growth. The idea of fostering a culture where excellence is the norm, and employees are motivated to excel, is something many organizations aspire to achieve.

Unlock the full potential of your lawncare, landscaping, and tree care business with transformative insights from industry leaders like Pat Morstad from Precision Landscaping, who credits his partnership with Cardone Ventures for remarkable new growth and strategic guidance. Discover how establishing a strong, value-driven culture and implementing strategic systems and processes can elevate your team's performance and drive your business to new heights. Learn from the experiences of those who have walked the path of growth, embracing personal development and leadership excellence to not only achieve but exceed their business goals. Join Brent Oberlink, Travis May and Pat Morstad in our latest podcast as we delve into the principles that underpin successful business management, sharing stories of resilience, innovation, and success that will inspire you to rethink your approach to leadership. This isn't just about what we do; it's about why we do it and how we can do it better together.#LandscapingLeaders #TreeCareGrowth #LawncareInnovation #BusinessTransformation #LeadershipExcellence #CulturalChange #StrategicSuccess #Lawncare #TreeCare #Leadership #cardoneventures

In an era where innovation is the key to advancement, the lawncare, landscaping, hardscaping, and tree care industry stands on the brink of a technological revolution. The drive to innovate, spearheaded by visionaries like Dontae Gonzales, founder of Robotic Scapes, is not just about keeping pace with change but about setting new standards for excellence and sustainability in our industry. It's about leveraging technology to redefine our operational landscapes, making them more efficient, sustainable, and responsive to the needs of our communities.In this enlightening episode, join us as we delve into Dontae Gonzales' transformative journey from his early days on the lawncare robotics team at Clean Scapes to founding Robotic Scapes. Discover how the mentorship from Ivan Giraldo played a crucial role in shaping Dontae's vision and how his collaboration with Matt Moore at the innovative robotics company Sunseeker is setting new benchmarks in the use of robotics in landscaping. From tackling the labor shortage challenge to enhancing sustainability and noise reduction with robotic mowers and electric tools, this conversation explores the vast potential of technology to revolutionize yard maintenance, tree trimming, and beyond.Hosts Brent Oberlink and Travis May unpack the future of landscaping, highlighting breakthroughs from Roomba-style robotic mowers to drone-operated yard maintenance, and how these advancements are not only reshaping the industry landscape but also paving the way for a more sustainable, efficient, and customer-centric future. Learn how embracing these technologies early on can streamline operations, solve labor issues, and elevate customer satisfaction to new heights.Tune in to gain invaluable insights into the next wave of landscaping and contracting innovation, and see how visionary leadership, strategic partnerships, and a passion for technology can drive the industry towards a brighter, more sustainable future. Don't miss this compelling journey into the heart of modern landscaping innovation with Dontae Gonzales and Robotic Scapes. Hit play now and embark on a journey to a better contracting future!#TheBetterContractorPodcast #TheBetterContractor #landscapingpodcast #entrepreneur #landscaping #innovation #lawncare #robotics #hardscape #arborist #futureoflandscaping #veteran

Welcome back to another enlightening episode of "The Better Contractor" podcast! This week we’ll discuss propelling your business to success through business transformation, and the vital role of mentorship, innovation, and data-driven strategies that are shaping the future of the landscaping industry. We’re joined by Heather Dirksen, a seasoned professional from Canopy Service Partners. Heather's journey is as intriguing as it is diverse: from serving in the military as an air traffic controller to piloting aircraft and eventually diving into the world of contracting and tree services.During our conversation, Heather shares insights from her extensive experiences, including living and working in various countries such as Iraq, Afghanistan, Kosovo, and Dubai. Her transition from military life to civilian contracting offers valuable lessons in adaptability and seizing opportunities.Heather's role at Canopy Service Partners involves supporting contractors with everything from HR and payroll to marketing and operational software implementation. Through her experiences, she emphasizes the importance of leveraging data-driven decision-making and continuous improvement to drive success in the contracting industry.Throughout the episode, Heather and our hosts explore topics such as mentorship, the value of systems and processes, and the significance of customer trust in business growth. From discussing the benefits of CRM systems to the power of 360-degree feedback, Heather's insights provide a roadmap for leaders looking to thrive in today's competitive landscape.So whether you're a seasoned professional seeking new perspectives or a newcomer navigating the industry, tune in to "The Better Contractor" podcast for actionable advice and inspiring stories to help you excel in your journey ahead. Don't forget to connect with Heather on LinkedIn for more valuable insights and updates on her consulting ventures.#treecare #landscaping #leadership #mentorship #Innovation #lawncare #veteran

Welcome back to another insightful episode of The Better Contractor Podcast! In this episode, we delve into the world of tree care and media with our special guest, Joel Spooner, founder of InTree Media.Discover the power of visual storytelling to transform the perception of tree care, highlighting the essential blend of safety, emotion, and professionalism that elevates our industry? Join us as we uncover the passion and purpose behind Joel's journey and his mission in the tree care industry.From climbing trees in his childhood backyard to mentoring under industry experts and arborists like Matt Beaty, Elliot Wright, and Dan Holliday. Joel shares how his diverse background in forestry and photography led to the creation of InTree Media. Learn how Joel's innovative approach is reshaping the way tree care companies present themselves to the world.We discover the importance of culture and mentorship in fostering employee engagement and business growth. We also explore practical strategies for leveraging media to build trust, connect with customers, and stand out in a competitive market.Whether you're a tree care professional, business owner, or simply curious about the intersection of media and industry, this episode offers valuable insights and inspiration for anyone looking to make a meaningful impact.Share your thoughts and questions in the comments below! How are you leveraging media to elevate your business or industry? We'd love to hear from you.Don't miss out on this enlightening discussion. Hit play now and embark on a journey to reimagine the tree care industry through the lens of media innovation. Let's grow together!

The Better Contractor Podcast focuses on discussing various aspects of safety and more within the lawncare, hardscaping, and tree care industry. Hosted by industry experts, the podcast delves into topics such as the importance of safety and innovations in PPE, and solutions for common safety challenges we face in the field.In this episode, Brent Oberlink, and his guest, John Nollner from Pyramex Safety, discuss the significance of proper fitting PPE and the role of innovative safety solutions in preventing workplace injuries. They explore the evolution of safety equipment, including advancements in hard hats and high-visibility clothing, and the importance of aesthetics in encouraging PPE compliance among workers. Additionally, they highlight the proactive approach of Pyramex Safety in collaborating with industry stakeholders to address safety concerns and develop tailored solutions for end-users.

In this enlightening episode of The Better Contractor Podcast, host Brent Oberlink is joined by Travis May, Jon Keck, and Tucker Willms, CEO of Arrow Valley Landscaping, to unravel the intricacies of marketing in the digital age.   With a focus on the lawn care, landscaping, and tree care industries, they delve into effective techniques and strategies that can elevate a company’s online presence and client engagement. Discover how Tucker transformed his approach to marketing, embracing digital tools and social platforms to cultivate a premium brand identity and drive substantial business growth.   This episode is a treasure trove of insights for industry leaders seeking to navigate the digital terrain and reap the rewards of a well-tended online strategy. Join us as we learn how to plant the seeds of digital marketing success and watch your business flourish.

In the fourth episode of The Better Contractor Podcast, we dive deep into a critical topic that's at the heart of every successful business - the balance between words and actions when it comes to core values.  Join host Brent Oberlink as he welcomes esteemed guests who have navigated the intricate landscape of core values in business. Together, we explore how a company's stated values should align with its actual practices. Are your core values just words on a wall or a true reflection of your company's culture and actions?  This thought-provoking episode delves into real-life examples, challenges, and solutions surrounding core values in the contracting industry. Discover why walking the talk is essential, and gain valuable insights on how to ensure your business upholds its core values in both words and actions.  Don't miss this engaging discussion on "Words vs. Actions: The Core Value Dilemma in Business." Tune in for actionable takeaways that can transform your contracting business for the better.

In Episode 3 of "The Better Contractor Podcast," host Brent Oberlink leads a compelling discussion on the concept of value in the contracting industry. Joined by industry experts, Brent delves into why prioritizing quality over cost is essential for contractors aiming to deliver superior results. Through insightful anecdotes and practical examples, this episode sheds light on how redefining value can positively impact businesses and client relationships. Whether you're a seasoned contractor or new to the industry, this episode offers valuable perspectives on enhancing your approach to delivering exceptional value in your projects. Tune in to gain valuable insights that can elevate your contracting business to new heights.  Follow us on all socials  @TheBetterContractor 

Host Brent Oberlink is joined by industry experts Travis May, Strategy and Operations Manager, and Jon Keck, Project Manager and LiDAR drone pilot. Together, they explore the pivotal role of innovation and technology in the lawn landscaping and hardscaping fields. Join them as they discuss how they integrate technology into their daily operations to enhance their company's performance. From leveraging cutting-edge tools to embracing new trends, this episode provides valuable insights into staying ahead in a rapidly evolving industry. Tune in as they also share their visions for the future of technology in the field, offering a glimpse into what lies ahead for contractors looking to innovate and thrive. 

Welcome to the first episode of The Better Contractor podcast. Host Brent Oberlink is joined by Travis May and Jon Keck to talk about the modern day challenges inside the contracting space.