The Beat with Ari Melber

MSNBC’s Melissa Murray hosts “The Beat” on Monday, July 24, and reports on Trump’s legal battles, Trump’s January 6 probe and abortion. Alexis McGill Johnson, Chris England, Mara Gay, Joyce Vance, Neal Katyal and Timothy Heaphy join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Director Christopher Nolan discusses his new film ‘Oppenheimer,’ the threat of nuclear war, A.I.’s “Oppenheimer moment,” his approach to historical narrative, working with Matt Damon and his interest in “high stakes” issues -- like war, WMDs, and the nature of good and evil – spanning his films from Dunkirk to the Dark Knight trilogy. This wide-ranging interview is a new installment of The Summit Series with Ari Melber, featuring discussions with leaders at the summit of their fields. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Thursday, July 20, and reports on Trump’s legal battles and Elon Musk. Plus, legendary writer-director Christopher Nolan sits down with Melber ahead of the release of his newest film Oppenheimer. Chai Komanduri and David Kelley also join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat'' on Wednesday, June 19, and reports on Trump’s target letter and the cash bail decision in Illinois. Plus, Big Daddy Kane and DJ Cassidy join for “Fallback.” Sam Nunberg, Michael Steele and Leslie Caldwell also join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Tuesday, July 18, and reports on Trump’s target letter, Trump accountability and fake electors charges. Ruth Ben-Ghiat, Maya Wiley, David Kelley and Kristy Greenberg join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Melissa Murray hosts “The Beat” on Monday, July 17, and reports on Trump autocracy, Trump’s legal battles, Iowa’s abortion ruling and Ron DeSantis. Plus, Murray gives an update on Taylor Swift's record-breaking career. Nick Akerman, Cedric Richmond, Alencia Johnson and Jim Obergefel join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Katie Phang hosts “The Beat” on Friday July 14, and reports on Donald Trump’s January 6 probe, the classified documents probe, Ron DeSantis and the climate crisis. Chris Gloninger, Richard Kind, Fernand Amandi, Dave Aronberg, Kurt Bardella and Catherine Christian. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this podcast extra, Watergate icon Bob Woodward recounts his extensive interviews with former President Trump and decodes the damning “Trump Tapes” with MSNBC’s Ari Melber. Plus, hear Woodward’s past conversations with Melber on “The Beat.” To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Melissa Murray hosts “The Beat” on Thursday, July 13, and reports on Jack Smith’s criminal probe, Fox News’s defamation lawsuit, abortion and LGBTQ rights. Charles Johnson. Dr. Amanda Williams, Joyce Vance, Mark Joseph Stern, Kristy Greenberg and Michael Teter join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Wednesday, June 12, and reports on Fox News’s newest defamation lawsuit and Bidenomics. Plus, Chasten Buttigieg joins to discuss protecting LGBTQ Rights. Bill Nye also joins to discuss climate change. James Carville joins. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this special edition of “The Beat,” journalist Bob Woodward joins MSNBC’s Ari Melber. Woodward discusses the interviews he did with Donald Trump during his presidency. Melber also breaks down a key period of the pandemic, playing excerpts of Woodward’s tapes and other source material to offer a broader look at Trump’s handling of the crisis, which is newly relevant as Trump runs to return to the White House. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Jason Johnson hosts “The Beat” on Monday, July 10, and reports on ongoing Trump investigations, Fox News and SCOTUS ethics scandals. Neal Katyal, Josh Marshall, Melissa Murray, Fernand Amandi, Alencia Johnson and Regina Goodwin join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Friday, July 7, and reports on Donald Trump’s investigations, GOP hypocrisy and GOP infighting in Congress. Plus John Salley and Jason Johnson join for “Fallback Friday.” Karine Jean Pierre and Bradley Moss also join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this podcast extra, MSNBC’s Ari Melber reports on how the GOP’s latest tech ban tests free speech, as Montana becomes the first state to ban the social media app TikTok. Plus, hear comedian Matt Friend’s latest “Beat” appearance, and a conversation with lawyer Floyd Abrams, who says new GOP laws violate the First Amendment. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Thursday, July 6, and reports on Donald Trump’s investigations, MAGA threats and Ron DeSantis. Eugene Robinson, John Flannery, Libby Casey and Katherine Rinderle join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’S Ari Melber hosts “The Beat '' on Wednesday, July 5, and reports on Donald Trump’s investigations, affirmative action and the ongoing effort to ban TikTok. Neal Katyal, Chai Komanduri, and Maya Wiley join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The U.S. Supreme Court’s decision to end affirmative action in college admissions has rocked the country and pitted liberal and conservative justices against each other. Award-winning actress Alfre Woodard reads every word of Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson’s scathing dissent where she calls the decision a “tragedy for us all”. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Friday, June 30, and reports on The Supreme Court, Trump probes, George Santos and Fox News. Plus, Brian “B-Dot” Miller and Ruth Ben-Ghiat join for “Fallback Friday.” Bradley Moss, Maya Wiley and Richard Painter also join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Thursday, June 29, and reports on the Supreme Court’s decision to end affirmative action and the latest on Trump’s legal battles. Plus, MSNBC's Nicolle Wallace discusses her interview with President Biden. Jelani Cobb, Deborah Archer and Derrick Johnson also join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Wednesday, June 28, and reports on Jack Smith probes, the economy, and Trump’s legal defense. Rob Kelner, Howard Dean, Nick Akerman, and Melissa Murray join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Tuesday, June 27 and reports on the incriminating Trump tape and developments in Russia. Reverend Al Sharpton, Rick Hasen, Nick Akerman, and Andrei Kozyrev join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Monday, June 26, and reports on Jack Smith’s coup probe and the latest on the fallout after Wagner’s rebellion in Russia. David Rothkopf, Julia Ioffee, Neal Katyal and Kristy Greenberg join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Friday, May 23, and reports on Jack Smith’s coup probe and the one year mark since the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. Plus, Melber delivers a special report exposing the GOP’s double standard on “police rules.” Colin Quinn, Joyce Vance and Nick Akerman join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Thursday, June 22, and reports on a new filing from Special Counsel Jack Smith, Donald Trump’s classified documents and the latest SCOTUS ethics scandal. Plus, Big Freedia and Brittney Cooper join for “Fallback.” Richard Painter, Emily Bazelon and Leslie Caldwell also join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Wednesday, June 21, and reports on Donald Trump’s failed calls for protests and violence the latest Supreme Court ethics scandal. Michael Steele, Olivia Troye, and Nina Totenberg join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this podcast extra, MSNBC’s Ari Melber asks viewers to explore novel ideas with an “open mind.” Economist Juliet Schor discusses the labor system and if there is a better way to rethink it. Philosopher Martha Nussbaum delivers a provocative argument that animals should have legal rights and access to the courts with human lawyers. Plus, Anne Wojcicki, the billionaire founder of 23andMe, explains her unconventional vision for using DNA and ancestry to give people more knowledge about their lives. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Tuesday, June 20, and reports on Donald Trump’s classified documents case, Hunter Biden and John Eastman. Chai Komanduri, David Kelley and Melissa Murray join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Monday, June 19, and reports on Donald Trump’s criminal probes. Plus, Economist Juliet Schor joins Ari Melber for the latest “Open Mind,” exploring why our labor system is set up the way it is, and if there may be a better way to rethink it. Neal Katyal and Ruth Ben-Ghiat also join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Friday, June 16, and reports on Donald Trump’s indictment. Plus, Doug E. Fresh and Mayor Bill De Blasio join for “Fallback Friday.” Joyce Vance and Tim Heapy also join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Thursday, June 15, and reports on Special Counsel Jack Smith’s indictment road map. Plus, former Trump impeachment lawyer Robert Ray joins “The Beat.” Michael Steele and Richard Gregorie also join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Wednesday, June 14, and reports on Donald Trump’s arrest and arraignment. Bob Woodward, Maya Wiley and Kristy Greenberg join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Tuesday, May 13, and reports on Donald Trump’s historic arraignment. Garrett Haake, David Kelley and Lawrence O’Donnell join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Monday, June 12, and reports on Donald Trump’s historic federal indictment and what to expect. Chris Hayes, Melissa Murray and Ankush Khardori join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

What exactly is inside that historic 37-count federal indictment against Donald Trump? MSNBC host Ali Velshi reads every word of the DOJ’s allegations against the former president, including a transcript of a conversation Trump allegedly had about a classified military document and texts between his employees.If you have questions, you can leave us a voicemail at 917-342-2934 and maybe we’ll play it on the pod! You can also email us at [email protected]. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC's Ari Melber hosts "The Beat" on Friday, June 9, and reports on Donald Trump's historic indictment in Special Counsel Jack Smith's Mar-a-Lago documents probe. Maya Wiley, Jen Psaki, Kristy Greenberg, David Kelley and Andrew Weissman join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Wednesday, June 7, and reports on Trump’s grand juries, Mark Meadows, and Mike Pence’s presidential bid. John Flannery and Maya Wiley join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Tuesday, June 6, and reports on Donald Trump’s documents probe, the 2024 election, George Santos and jail deaths in New York City. Plus, Melber delivers instant analysis to breaking news that Mark Meadows testified before a grand jury in Special Counsel Jack Smith’s Trump investigations. Sam Nunberg, David Kelley and Melissa Murray join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Monday, June 6, and reports on Trump’s classified docs probe, artificial intelligence, and Ron DeSantis. David RothKopf and Joyce Vance join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Friday, June 2, and reports on Donald Trump’s criminal probes and is joined by Trump's former lawyer, Tim Parlatore. David Kelley and Eugene Robinson also join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Thursday, June 1, and reports on the Trump tapes. Joyce Vance, Michael Steele, David Remnick, and James Comey join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Katie Phang hosts “The Beat” on Wednesday, May 31, and reports on Trump’s special counsel, the debt limit, and the 2024 presidential race. Denver Riggleman, Fernand Amandi, Juanita Tolliver, Alencia Johnson, Maya Wiley, and Paul Butler join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Katie Phang hosts “The Beat” on Tuesday, May 30, and reports on Trump’s legal battles, the debt limit deal, and Ron DeSantis’s presidential campaign. Zach Despart, Andrew Warren, Molly Jong-Fast, David Jolly, and Hugo Lowell join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jason Johnson hosts "The Beat" on Friday, May 26 and reports on new New York Times reporting indicating a Mar-A-Lago worker helped move boxes into a storage room one day before the DOJ came looking for classified docs. Plus, Ron DeSantis facing new corruption scandal as officials in his office are accused of crossing ethical lines and pressuring Florida lobbyists for campaign cash. Elie Mystal, Hugo Lowell and Michael Steele join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Jason Johnson hosts "The Beat" on Thursday, May 25 and reports on a new bombshell Washington Post piece that links Trump to moving of documents one day before the DOJ search of Mar-a-Lago. Plus, Ron DeSantis' disastrous Twitter presidential campaign announcement, and updates on the debt ceiling fight. Renato Mariotti, Eugene Robinson, Fernand Amandi and Rachael Bade join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Wednesday, May 24, and reports on Trump’s legal battles, Rupert Murdoch’s “Succession” moment, Tina Turner, and Ron DeSantis. Cher and Bill Kristol join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC's Ari Melber hosts "The Beat" on Tuesday, May 23 and reports on Donald Trump appearing in NY court for the first hearing since his arrest and arraignment. Plus, comedian Matt Friend returns to "The Beat" with some of his political impressions. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Katie Phang hosts “The Beat” on Monday, May 22, and reports on Trump’s legal battles, the debt ceiling fight, and the GOP 2024 primary. Rick Wilson, Molly Jong-Fast, Derrick Johnson, Hugo Lowell, and Neal Katyal join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’S Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Friday, May 19, and reports on Trump’s legal battles, Ron DeSantis, and new artificial intelligence technology. Plus, Melber is joined by producer Swizz Beatz. Alexander Huth, Dr. Zeke Emanuel, and Emily Bazelon also join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

MSNBC’s Ari Melber hosts “The Beat” on Thursday, May 18, and reports on Smartmatic’s defamation case against Fox News, GOP probes, and Ron DeSantis. Plus, hear more of Melber’s interview with Tom Hanks. Joyce Vance, Alencia Johnson and Ruth Ben-Ghiat join. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

In this podcast extra, revered actor Tom Hanks joins MSNBC’s Ari Melber for an in-depth conversation about his new novel, “The Making of Another Motion Picture Masterpiece,” his iconic films, doing the right thing, and who he thinks should play him in a biopic. This is a new installment of The Summit Series with Ari Melber, featuring discussions with leaders at the summit of their fields. To listen to this show and other MS podcasts without ads, sign up for MS NOW Premium on Apple Podcasts. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See https://pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.