May 22, 1997: Time Wave Zero - Terence McKenna
The Art Bell Archive · Arthur William Bell III
September 27, 20233h 0m
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Show Notes
Terence McKenna, calling from his remote home on the slopes of Mauna Loa in Hawaii, presents his radical theory of novelty and time to Art Bell in a conversation that leaves the host stunned by its alignment with his own book, The Quickening. McKenna argues that the universe has an inherent preference for novelty over habit, accelerating exponentially toward a singular moment he calculates will arrive on December 21, 2012, a date derived mathematically from the ancient Chinese I Ching that independently matches the Mayan calendar.
The discussion ranges across the fractal nature of time, the inadequacy of Western probability theory, and the role of psychedelic plants in accessing other dimensions of consciousness. McKenna proposes that alien beings reported in UFO encounters may reach us through the human mind rather than physical spacecraft, with the naturally occurring compound DMT serving as a key to these experiences.
Art and Terence find remarkable common ground on the acceleration of change in human affairs, with McKenna providing mathematical structure for what Art had documented anecdotally. Their exchange on time travel, the nature of souls, and the transcendental object at the end of time makes this one of the most intellectually ambitious episodes in the archive.
The discussion ranges across the fractal nature of time, the inadequacy of Western probability theory, and the role of psychedelic plants in accessing other dimensions of consciousness. McKenna proposes that alien beings reported in UFO encounters may reach us through the human mind rather than physical spacecraft, with the naturally occurring compound DMT serving as a key to these experiences.
Art and Terence find remarkable common ground on the acceleration of change in human affairs, with McKenna providing mathematical structure for what Art had documented anecdotally. Their exchange on time travel, the nature of souls, and the transcendental object at the end of time makes this one of the most intellectually ambitious episodes in the archive.