
July 6, 1997: The Day After Roswell - Colonel Philip J. Corso & William J. Birnes
The Art Bell Archive · Arthur William Bell III
October 25, 20231h 50m
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Show Notes
Art Bell hosts a special Dreamland broadcast from Roswell, New Mexico, featuring Colonel Philip J. Corso and co-author William J. Birnes discussing their book The Day After Roswell. Linda Moulton Howe moderates as Corso recounts his 1947 experience at Fort Riley, Kansas, where he saw a small, gray, non-human body floating in liquid inside a veterinary building. The creature had a large head, no ears, slit-like features, and spindly limbs.
Birnes describes the fierce internecine warfare between military intelligence and the CIA during the Cold War. Army leaders distrusted the civilian intelligence apparatus, believing it had been penetrated by Soviet agents. This distrust shaped the decision to keep recovered alien technology strictly within military channels. Corso then describes the file cabinet General Trudeau assigned him in 1961, filled with artifacts from the Roswell crash.
Corso details how he and Trudeau seeded alien technologies into American industry through standard R&D contracts. Items from the cabinet became precursors to integrated circuit chips, fiber optics, lasers, night vision devices, and super tenacity fibers. He also discusses Project Horizon, a classified Army plan for a lunar outpost, and directed energy weapons derived from recovered materials.
Birnes describes the fierce internecine warfare between military intelligence and the CIA during the Cold War. Army leaders distrusted the civilian intelligence apparatus, believing it had been penetrated by Soviet agents. This distrust shaped the decision to keep recovered alien technology strictly within military channels. Corso then describes the file cabinet General Trudeau assigned him in 1961, filled with artifacts from the Roswell crash.
Corso details how he and Trudeau seeded alien technologies into American industry through standard R&D contracts. Items from the cabinet became precursors to integrated circuit chips, fiber optics, lasers, night vision devices, and super tenacity fibers. He also discusses Project Horizon, a classified Army plan for a lunar outpost, and directed energy weapons derived from recovered materials.