
The 5Cs
Charlene Norman
Show overview
The 5Cs has been publishing since 2022, and across the 4 years since has built a catalogue of 182 episodes. That works out to roughly 50 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a weekly cadence.
Episodes typically run ten to twenty minutes — most land between 14 min and 19 min — and the run-time is fairly consistent across the catalogue. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Business show.
The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 5 days ago, with 19 episodes already out so far this year. The busiest year was 2024, with 53 episodes published. Published by Charlene Norman.
From the publisher
Healing the globe can take many different paths. Imagine if most businesses took the lead in healing the planet and helping the people. Imagine the profit; imagine the impact. Imagine if it worked beyond our wildest dreams! Practical insights, provocative points of view. Simultaneously inspiring and educational. Join Charlene Norman every Saturday at 6 a.m. EST for this 2.1 version of Exploring Compassionate Capitalism.
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Ep 430Why Your Children Can't Afford Your Life
Why Your Children Can't Afford Your Life. The fifth episode in a new six part series. The Rock Tumbler: How Different Minds Create Breakthrough Thinking. With special guest Josh Harrison, of the Center for the Study of the Force Majeure and Leaf Island. Key Highlights -First generation where children can't expect parents' economic stability -Bell Labs spent 30% on basic research—gave us transistors, rockets, modern tech -Venture capital now demands 10x returns with no room for experimentation -Michael Milken's LBOs destroyed bidirectional company-employee relationships -Quarterly thinking sacrificed not just long-term, but medium-term prosperity Ready to benchmark your leadership impact? Take this 5-minute Stewardship Quiz and get a personalized report showing exactly where you rank - plus actionable strategies to elevate your performance.The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business.Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.

Ep 429The Plan That Survived a War
The fourth episode in a new six part series. The Rock Tumbler: How Different Minds Create Breakthrough Thinking. When Your Name Disappears and that's a HUGE success. With special guest Josh Harrison, of the Center for the Study of the Force Majeure. Key Highlights -Sava River master plan survived a war between two countries -Local teams adopted the methodology independently—now 40% of Danube's fresh water -Netherlands housing crisis: flipped the maps upside down, solved the unsolvable -Plan killed by politics, resurrected 5 years later—without the artists' names -"Conversational drift": When your work becomes community property, that's ultimate success Ready to benchmark your leadership impact? Take this 5-minute Stewardship Quiz and get a personalized report showing exactly where you rank - plus actionable strategies to elevate your performance.The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business.Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.

Ep 428What Is a Happy Crab
What is a Happy Crab? The third episode in a new six part series. The Rock Tumbler: How Different Minds Create Breakthrough Thinking. With special guest Josh Harrison, of the Center for the Study of the Force Majeure. 5 KEY TAKEAWAYS: What is a happy crab? The question that unlocked captive breeding First artists to receive a sea grant for scientific work Why inducing an artificial monsoon solved what experts couldn't Planet as client: the 1970s commitment that changed everything Systems questions vs technical questions - and why it matters for your work Ready to benchmark your leadership impact? Take this 5-minute Stewardship Quiz and get a personalized report showing exactly where you rank - plus actionable strategies to elevate your performance.The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business.Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.

Ep 427The Three Fatal Assumptions
Three Fatal Assumptions. The second episode in a new six part series. The Rock Tumbler: How Different Minds Create Breakthrough Thinking. With special guest Josh Harrison, of the Center for the Study of the Force Majeure. Key HIghlights: -The Moral Foundations of Capitalism: Revisiting Adam Smith -The Modern Market: From Transparency to Information Arbitrage -Environmental Blind Spots in Economic Theory -The Role of Art and Artists in Social Change -Actionable Strategies for Change Ready to benchmark your leadership impact? Take this 5-minute Stewardship Quiz and get a personalized report showing exactly where you rank - plus actionable strategies to elevate your performance.The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business.Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.

Ep 426Artists Through History
Artists through History. The first episode in a new six part series. The Rock Tumbler: How Different Minds Create Breakthrough Thinking. With special guest Josh Harrison, of the Center for the Study of the Force Majeure. Key HIghlights: 1. Artists as Integrated Problem-Solvers: Lessons from History Historically, artists weren’t isolated creatives—they were embedded in the fabric of their communities, solving real problems and serving societal needs. 2. The Renaissance Model: Patronage, Collaboration, and Adaptability Renaissance artists like Leonardo da Vinci and Michelangelo were not lone geniuses—they were master collaborators, project managers, and business developers. 3. The Myth of the Solitary Genius: Why Collaboration Trumps Isolation The romantic notion of the “starving artist” working alone is a modern invention. Historically, success came from collaboration and community engagement. 4. The Crisis of Financialization: Rethinking Value in Business and Art We’ve become obsessed with measuring value in purely financial terms, often at the expense of moral, ecological, and cultural considerations. 5. From Information Sharing to Information Arbitrage: The Next Frontier The evolution from open knowledge sharing (à la Adam Smith) to information hoarding and arbitrage has profound implications for sustainability and business ethics. Ready to benchmark your leadership impact? Take this 5-minute Stewardship Quiz and get a personalized report showing exactly where you rank - plus actionable strategies to elevate your performance.The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business.Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.

Ep 425Stop Performing Certainty: What It Actually Takes to Step Beyond the Paradigm
If you missed the previous three episodes, go here This is Part Four of Four -- A deep dive of Richard David Hames’ essay, “Beyond The Cracked Mirror: The Psychic Contract of a Dying Paradigm"Key highlights:The Cracked Mirror: Seeing Ourselves in the SystemSacred Innocence: The Trap of Moral SuperiorityThe Hunger to Punish: Why Righteousness Can BackfireThe Davos Smear: When Solutions Mirror the ProblemHolmes’s Invitation: Five Commitments for Real ChangeAction Steps for Business LeadersConclusion: Building Beyond the Paradigm Ready to benchmark your leadership impact? Take this 5-minute Stewardship Quiz and get a personalized report showing exactly where you rank - plus actionable strategies to elevate your performance.The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business.Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.

Ep 424The Complicity Episode: When We Keep the Machinery Running
If you missed the previous two episodes, go here This is Part Three of Four -- A deep dive of Richard David Hames’ essay, “Beyond The Cracked Mirror: The Psychic Contract of a Dying Paradigm"Key highlights:1. The Psychic Contract: The Illusion of Change Without Real Change2. Truth as Territory: The Fragmentation of Reality3. The Masculine Shell: Power, Vulnerability, and LeadershipBecause Doing Better Starts with Seeing Clearly Ready to benchmark your leadership impact? Take this 5-minute Stewardship Quiz and get a personalized report showing exactly where you rank - plus actionable strategies to elevate your performance.The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business.Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.

Ep 423What If We're Still Inside the Paradigm We're Trying to Escape?
Continuing oue deep dive into the work of Richard David Hames, using his essay "The Mirror Cracks: Donald Trump and the American Psyche” as a lens to examine the foundational patterns driving both climate crisis and the broader malaise of modern capitalism, the episodes looks at the final three of Richard's six insights. -The Epistemological Break-The Civilization Crisis-Nature as a ResourceYou may also find this 2018 talk illuminatingKey Takeaways for Leaders:Are we defending comfortable but flawed realities in our sustainability efforts?How can we shift from treating nature as a resource to honoring it as a living system?Recognize that climate action, democracy, and economic systems are deeply interconnected. Ready to benchmark your leadership impact? Take this 5-minute Stewardship Quiz and get a personalized report showing exactly where you rank - plus actionable strategies to elevate your performance.The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business.Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.

Ep 422The Logic That Created the Crisis
Let’s face it: the world is on fire—sometimes literally. The systems that built our prosperity are now threatening our future. As host Charlene Norman puts it, “You cannot build regenerative systems on extractive foundations. You cannot create sustainable solutions using the same logic that created the crisis.”This episode isn’t about bashing the U.S. or any one leader. It’s about recognizing the global export of American-style capitalism and its consequences. If you’re leading a business, you’re not just a bystander—you’re a participant. The question is: are you perpetuating these patterns, or are you ready to help break them?Diving deep into the work of Richard David Hames, using his essay "The Mirror Cracks: Donald Trump and the American Psyche” as a lens to examine the foundational patterns driving both climate crisis and the broader malaise of modern capitalism, the episodes looks at three of Richard's six insights-The Extractive Imperative-The Spectacle State-The Fortress FantasyYou may also find this 2018 talk illuminating Ready to benchmark your leadership impact? Take this 5-minute Stewardship Quiz and get a personalized report showing exactly where you rank - plus actionable strategies to elevate your performance.The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business.Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.

Ep 421What Exactly Are They Building?
Business leaders and executives know exactly what power and dominance are. That is the goal behind every scaling move for market share, for revenue and for profit. It works until it doesn't. There is a race in the geo political landscape that will suffer the exact same fate. The pursuit of energy. Whether fossil fuel or clean tech, both will indeed scale. Both will work, until they don't. Because both are EXTRACXTIVE. Both do nothing for planetary health. So, why are we doing them? Power and Dominance. And who will win that race? Tune in for the better questions we need to ask. Because simply swapping one for another comes with a complete set of different issues. Ready to benchmark your leadership impact? Take this 5-minute Stewardship Quiz and get a personalized report showing exactly where you rank - plus actionable strategies to elevate your performance.The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business.Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.

Ep 420When Time Runs Out
Business leaders and executives are no strangers to tough decisions, but what happens when the stakes are nothing less than the future of our planet? Host Charlene Norman presents a masterclass in leadership under uncertainty. She weaves together the urgency of the climate crisis, the fragility of democracy, and the overwhelming complexity of our times. Drawing on insights from sustainability leader Richard Threlfall and climate architect Christiana Figueres, she challenges us to rethink not just what we do, but what we value. You can find the countdown clock here.Key HIghlights-The Climate Countdown: Why Urgency Is Non-Negotiable-The Interconnected Crises: Climate, Democracy, and Human Systems-Beyond Technology: The Real Work Is Cultural-The Power of Voice: Why Silence Is Not an Option-Three Frameworks for Sustainable Action-The Human Work: Shifting Values from Wealth to Stewardship-Your Voice Is Enough—History Proves It Ready to benchmark your leadership impact? Take this 5-minute Stewardship Quiz and get a personalized report showing exactly where you rank - plus actionable strategies to elevate your performance.The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business.Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.

Ep 419Possibilities: What We've Been Avoiding
Host Charlene Norman explores the premise that while this podcast has helped build a bridge between business and the planet, the world on both sides of that bridge is shifting. And super fast. The question is no longer just how to get across the bridge , but what to do when the ground itself is unstable and the river is rising.She identifies four critical “gaps” that business leaders must now confront:Collective GriefIntergenerational RepairPower DynamicsScale and TriageIn other words, the real work now lies in the messy, uncertain territory beyond: Facing grief, repairing generational divides, challenging entrenched power, and making hard choices about where to focus our efforts. Clearly there are no easy answers left. Ready to benchmark your leadership impact? Take this 5-minute Stewardship Quiz and get a personalized report showing exactly where you rank - plus actionable strategies to elevate your performance.The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business.Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.

Ep 418But It's Impossible! Do It ANYWAY!
Host Charlene Norman unpacks the key themes of the past podcasts and explores what it truly takes to drive transformation in the face of climate change and entrenched business systems. Spoiler: it’s not about quick wins or clever marketing. It’s about trust, courage, and a willingness to play the long game.What gets covered-Trust is Infrastructure: Rebuilding What We Broke-Market Forces: Not Natural Laws, But Human Constructions-Design for the Margins: Why Inclusion Benefits Everyone-Time Horizons: Aligning Business with Planetary Timelines-Putting It All Together: The Path Forward Ready to benchmark your leadership impact? Take this 5-minute Stewardship Quiz and get a personalized report showing exactly where you rank - plus actionable strategies to elevate your performance.The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business.Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.

Ep 417It's Supposed to Feel Impossible
A reflection of the podcast learnings of the last nearly four years. With host Charlene NormanCovering these key highlights-The Myth of the Success Story-The Decades-Long Timeline of Real Change-Individual vs. Systemic Change: The Paradox at the Heart of Transformation-A Realistic Timeline: The Five Stages of Transformation-Asking Better Questions Together Ready to benchmark your leadership impact? Take this 5-minute Stewardship Quiz and get a personalized report showing exactly where you rank - plus actionable strategies to elevate your performance.The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business.Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.

Ep 416Navigating the Uncharted Waters of Transformation
In the first episode, host Charlene Norman of Good Stewardship; Lasting Impact took a brutally honest look at the in between stage we are all living through -- the messy middle. In the second episode, she began sharing the thoughts of Ernesto van Peborgh founder of the Seva Institute and prolific writer on Substack as a case study we can all learn from. In the third episode, she showed how the problems we face are not just personal or organizational—they are systemic. The “multi-polar traps” of complexity theory are everywhere and yes, they can be debilitating. In this, the final episode, she finishes reading Ernesto's account, and shows how to navigate the messy, uncertain, and often lonely middle passage of transformation, with five practical, deeply-explored practices. She ends with an invitation. Ready to benchmark your leadership impact? Take this 5-minute Stewardship Quiz and get a personalized report showing exactly where you rank - plus actionable strategies to elevate your performance.The 5Cs Podcast connects forward-thinking executives who are building sustainable competitive advantages while driving positive impact. Think of it as an exclusive network of leaders who understand that stewardship isn't just good ethics - it's good business.Connect with Charlene Norman on LinkedIn, find her at her website, subscribe to our Substack for strategic insights, or download the full series on Spotify and Apple.