That's So Mental

Cristina's back update - mysteriously gone. Ilana is getting duped by AI. Cristina is deep in Jiu-Jitsu competitions and Ilana is nursing here multiple injuries but still showing up. Cristina's teacher said, "Fear is 10 feet long, 10 feet wide, and paper thin," so maybe bust through that paper! Or rest, you do you!!!Ilana and former guest Alisha Gaddis are putting up a show Thursday, April 23rd, 7:30 pm. TICKETS HEREShoutouts: New Vision Optometry, Endorsements: Ocean Vaughn, Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina FernandezMORE TSM: That's So Mental FB, TikTok, TSM YouTubeHere's the video I said I wasn't going to put out: VD JanceEmail us at [email protected]. Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini. Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. Hosted on Acast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Psychologist and author Dr. Ingrid Clayton joins Ilana and Cristina to share how her own complex PTSD led her to write, "Fawning: Why the Need to Please Makes Us Lose Ourselves--and How to Find Our Way Back." These three delightful recovering fawners have a powerful conversation that illuminates how fawning happens and how to widen your window of tolerance, grow, and accept where you're at. The move towards "unfawning" takes work, can feel bad, but curiosity can start to get you back in contact with your own body and self. . . maybe for the first time.Also, fuck Epstein and how the women who have spoken out are being treated. We see you Pam, and we think you're a raging cunt.Shoutouts: Erin McAnoy, Michelle Villemaire, Resmaa Menakem's "My Grandmother's Hands," Endorsements: REST! Not because you're burn out but rest for rest's sake, easy STRETCHING, and CURIOSITY Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez and guest Ingrid Claytoncheck out her website here: https://www.ingridclayton.com/MORE TSM: That's So Mental FB, TikTok, TSM YouTubeEmail us at [email protected]. Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini.Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. Hosted on Acast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Ilana and Cristina get high on Ed...education that is! And they explore the metaphysical side of life - mostly through Ilana's dog. No matter what your beliefs, it's clear that mother nature has the coolest shit out there; schools of fish, trees that communicate through intricate fungi networks and duck-bill platypuses. I mean what even are they?! Life is wild. Shoutouts: Fran Tait Pet psychic, Telepathy Tapes, Laura Lynn Jackson's Signs, LTCEndorsements: Rosalia, Bad Bunny, PutumayoSend us your PSYCHICS!!!Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina FernandezMORE TSM: That's So Mental FB, TikTok, TSM YouTubeEmail us at [email protected]. Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini.Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. Hosted on Acast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Podcast and radio legend Phil Hendrie joins big time radio lovers Ilana and Cristina. They're all flying high on Wellbutrin and L-Theanine. Listen in as they talk about control, crying, and doing silly voices for sanity. Shoutouts: Easy Rider, Apocalypse Now, Clockwork Orange. The Pitch, Liam SullivanEndorsements: Nichiren Buddhism, Creatine, Hendrie Documentary, Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez and guest Phil Hendrie. MORE TSM: That's So Mental FB, TikTok, TSM YouTubeEmail us at [email protected]. Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini.Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. Hosted on Acast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Garden Gnomes, Tasers and Floppy Cheese... what are your phobias? We'd love to hear from you. Ilana has loose fears about dropping her keys down a hole. Cristina hates your mouth noise with a passion. Koro syndrome is not common but would make a fun film! There is so much toxicity out there (our government, our salad), but here at That's So Mental we hope we help you laugh at all of it, because we are all on the same rock flying through space and what is life anyway?! Shoutout to previous guest: Dr. Alisa Angelone, Ilana's cheese fearing brother Ari, Ab Fab,Endorsements: What We Can Know by Ian McEwan, Gratitude Lists Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina FernandezMORE TSM: That's So Mental FB, TikTok, TSM YouTubeEmail us at [email protected]. Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini.Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. Hosted on Acast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Comedy legend, Margaret Cho joins Ilana and Cristina to chat; growing old, daily practices, and wtf is going on in the world. Despite feeling jammed full of Wagyu, Margaret is also jammed full of insights. She shares with us her daily practices of writing, meditating, and animal caregiving. Shoutouts: Margaret's Tour: Choligarchy, Sundance Films; Run Amok, and I Want Your Sex, Ryan Langer's Mourning songsEndorsements: SLEEP! Going to bed early, Chani - for all your horoscope needs, and Staring at the Wall. Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez and guest Margaret Cho. See more at margaretcho.comMORE TSM: That's So Mental FB, TikTok, TSM YouTubeEmail us at [email protected]. Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini.Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. Hosted on Acast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Cristina and Ilana are here and living that hot gratitude life! Broken bodies and all. Cristina recommends Xanax while time traveling aka getting an MRI, Ilana can't wait to recommend things to you that she can not recall any of the details of. Lucky for you, there are links below to all the great things bouncing around their brains. Shoutouts: Ingid Clayton, Sofia Isella doing great things for the young ladies, Lisa Gilroy's night time routineEndorsements: Shaking hands with conviction, Not telling girls to smile, Happy Sol Red Light Mask, Breville Bambino Espresso MachineClick to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina FernandezMORE TSM: That's So Mental FB, TikTok, TSM YouTubeEmail us at [email protected]. Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini.Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. Hosted on Acast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Actress Patty Guggenheim, known for Twisted Metal, She-Hulk, and Florida Girls, joins Christie and Lani this week on That's So Mental to chat wigs, broth and what it's like working with genius Alanis Morrisette. The world won't slow down, but sometimes we have to rest. EMDR, neurofeedback, and a witch who channels a doctor - we are here for it! Patty leaves us with The Santa EffectTM . . . believe and you will receive. And hey, maybe just get rid of that "bad energy" jacket for good. Santa can bring a new one. Shoutouts: Heal your body by Louise HayEndorsements: Jonathan Hyland, Dream Work Therapist, Shutting it down (as a practice), free writingClick to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez and guest Patty Guggenheim.MORE TSM: That's So Mental FB, TikTok, TSM YouTubeEmail us at [email protected]. Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini.Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. Hosted on Acast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

HAPPY NEW YEAR! It's 2026, so put on a bright lip and get that short dress on to show off those legs - they're gorgeous! That's So Mental is 50 episodes deep and we are so grateful to each and everyone of you for listening week after week. We have some great guests coming up this year and we are so thrilled and grateful that we get to get down in the nitty gritty with all of these talented folks. So many insights!Shoutout to previous guest Sofia Gonzalez for her wisdom. Endorsements: Read a Thriller - Cristina is enjoying God Of The Woods by Liz Moore, Everyday Dose CoffeeClick to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina FernandezMORE TSM: That's So Mental FB, TikTok, TSM YouTubeEmail us at [email protected]. Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini.Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. Hosted on Acast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's the last TSM episode of the year and we're joined by our lovely producer, Elizabeth Baquet, sharing so many great ways and organizations to get involved with in your community. Cristina is going hard at the end of the year and Ilana is staring at the wall. Both are acceptable. Endorsements: Nick Cave , Turn towards hope, stay away from cynicism, check out the local markets, and volunteer at your kids' school!Get Involved! CASA of LA Hope Street Distro Write Girl Mutual Aid Network LA More Great Organizations: Everyday Action Water Drop LA Community Fridges Young Storytellers Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez and producer and guest, Elizabeth BaquetMORE TSM: That's So Mental FB, TikTok, TSM YouTubeEmail us at [email protected]. Thank you to our producer sound engineer, and guest, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini.Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. Hosted on Acast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Community organizer, photographer, and creator of Hey Baby and Take Care Club, Gilda Davidian joins Cristina and Ilana to chat about how you too can be a wonderful helper in your community! For our month of December we're focusing on giving. Send us links to organizations that you love or donate to. We want to check them out!Endorsements: Plant the seeds! (literal and metaphorical) Do the little thing, supplements (Cristina is is working with turmeric, magnesium, multi, creatine, D3 - Ilana likes that fish oil too), Eckhart Tolle The Power of NowClick to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez and guest Glida Davidian and check out her Photography work here: www.gildadavidian.com and check out The Take Care Club!MORE TSM: That's So Mental FB, TikTok, TSM YouTubeEmail us at [email protected]. Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini.Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. Hosted on Acast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Happy Birthday to That's So Mental!!!!! She's ONE year old and looking fly as hell! Here's a little shortie episode to let you know what's coming up this month of holiday mayhem. Cristina is an acts of service lady and Ilana is a gifts gal, what's your love language? Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez MORE TSM: That's So Mental FB, TikTok, TSM YouTubeEmail us at [email protected]. Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini.Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. Hosted on Acast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week Ilana and Cristina talk to LMFT Anne Ricketts who gives us some insight to her practice and explains so many modalities that can be helpful. Cristina and Ilana both love themselves some rage, but don't worry, they've been doing the work and healing. Cristina shares a helpful tool to calm the nervous system. Ilana overshares, but that's her thing! Hey friend, go find your micro moments of awe. Get Ready for Some book recs: Pia Melody - Facing Love AddictionLisa Feldman Barrett Seven and A Half Lessons About The Brain Jillian Treckian - It begins with youMelody Beattie - Codependant No More Rick Hanson - Hardwiring Happiness Marc Lewis - Biology of Desire Endorsements: Where Will you be 5 years From Today - Written by Dan Zadra and Kobi Yamada, Stopping and smelling the roses, Shoutouts: Rachel Troy, This is Not a Beauty Podcast, Its Isabella's doc "seduce me" that Cristina was thinking of. And its strange. in the best way ever.https://www.criterionchannel.com/seduce-meClick to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez and guest Psychotherapist Anne Ricketts, find her at annerickettstherapy.com and find her art here: https://annericketts.comMORE TSM: That's So Mental FB, TikTok, TSM YouTubeEmail us at [email protected]. Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini.Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. Hosted on Acast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Actor, podcast host and genuine wonderful guy, Josh Meyers shares a window into pretty crushing depression that came and went. Cristina questions why no-one has diagnosed either of these hosts with manic depression or bipolar. Ilana remembers a time when she and Josh were neighbors and she almost went insane. California and all her beauty is discussed at length and Josh gives a peek into his new gig as the host of the California Now Podcast. He also shares how he ended up playing Gavin Newsom on all the late night shows. Endorsements: The Telepathy Tapes, The Shards by Bret Easton Ellis on audio, The Waking up App in a sauna if you've got one!Shoutouts: Strike Force 5, Esalen, Deetjens, Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez and Josh Meyers Check out his podcasts California Now and Family Trips with the Meyers BrothersMORE TSM: That's So Mental FB, TikTok, TSM YouTubeEmail us at [email protected]. Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini.Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. Hosted on Acast.If you're struggling with depression and having thoughts of hurting yourself or someone else reach out. Help is available. Dial 988. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Author, actress and beautiful storyteller, Emily Barth Isler joins the pod this week and shares her journey with OCD and Synesthesia. Cristina questions the legitimacy of physical therapy. Ilana had a tough nail salon experience and Cristina shares the saying, "lo barato sale caro," which means get the nicer thing, the cheap thing will cost you more down the road!Endorsements: t The Burbank Book Festival, Saturday November 8th, Subscribe and Save and thinking ahead, Daily gratitude list Shoutout:Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez and Emily Barth Isler.MORE TSM: That's So Mental FB, TikTok, TSM YouTubeEmail us at [email protected]. Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini.Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. Hosted on Acast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week's hilarious and charming guest, Kristine Kimmel, can be heard weekly on her How to Survive Podcast. Kristine shares how deep diving on crisis information has actually done good things for her mental health, that, and medication. Cristina is done with the squirrel perverts in LA, Ilana was almost kidnapped, because of course she was. What hasn't this lady been through?!Endorsements: Reading Classics, Listening to Michael Connelly Bosch series to fall asleep, Karaoke with friends, Doing the Work to feel better. Do that PT!Shoutout: Braving the Wilderness by Brené Brown, Stacy LevineClick to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez and Kristine Kimmel. Check out Kristine's podcast: How to Survive Podcast MORE TSM: That's So Mental FB, TikTok, TSM YouTubeEmail us at [email protected]. Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini.Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. Hosted on Acast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Cristina and Ilana are ready for fall! They're sweating, but they're ready. Julia Gallucci, LMFT, brings thoughtful, educational conversation to TSM. She discusses how to talk to your kids about porn, coping with OCD, and how not to accommodate your scared dog.Endorsements: Generation Cult Podcast , Singing for the fun of it, Being in Nature.Shoutout: Just Say This with Amy Lang Podcast, Good books for conversations; It's so Amazing Book, It's Not The Stork and Jane Borden's Cults Like Us. , Rachel Lawrence vocal coach.Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez and Julia Gallucci, licensed LMFT Psychologist. Check out her site at: www.juliagalluccitherapy.com.MORE TSM: That's So Mental FB, TikTok, TSM YouTubeEmail us at [email protected]. Thank you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini.Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. Hosted on Acast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Actress Chloe Wepper joins Ilana in the studio to chat toxic work places, getting harassed in the streets, and the state of the world. These ladies acknowledge that you can't always power through the depression. Get the meds when you need to! Cristina is off filming a commercial but don't fret she will be back next week. Thank you to Chloe and Elizabeth for filling Cristina's big, gorgeous shoes. Please send TOXIC workplace stories to [email protected]. We want to hear them!Endorsements: Group Therapy, Somebody Somewhere, TaskShoutout: Jeff Hiller Click to Follow on IG: That's So Mental , Ilana Cohn Sullivan, Cristina Fernandez and guest Chloe Wepper. MORE TSM: That's So Mental FB, TikTok, TSM YouTubeWe want to hear from our international audience! DM us or email at [email protected] you to our producer and sound engineer, Elizabeth Baquet and everyone at Ninth Planet Audio. Theme song created by Mike Costantini.Special Thanks to Dave Kneebone at AbsoLutely. Hosted on Acast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.