
That's Not the Point
Gio & Jay
Show overview
That's Not the Point launched in 2024 and has put out 27 episodes in the time since. That works out to roughly 20 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a fortnightly cadence.
Episodes typically run thirty-five to sixty minutes — most land between 30 min and 51 min — though episode length varies meaningfully from one episode to the next. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Society & Culture show.
The catalogue appears to be on hiatus or wound down — the most recent episode landed 1.1 years ago, with no new episodes in over a year. The busiest year was 2024, with 19 episodes published. Published by Gio & Jay.
From the publisher
That's Not the Point Podcast follows the journey of two women of Caribbean descent, born in North America, who now find themselves navigating life in Germany. Join the ladies as they share their stories, anecdotes, and experiences while adjusting to life in Deutschland. With humor, heart, and a touch of chaos, they dive into the ups and downs of family, marriage and expat life, often inviting other expats to share their own adventures. Tune in for the laughs, the real talk, and the unexpected moments that happen when these two meet up on each episode.
Latest Episodes
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S1 Ep 126 Flakes, Friends, and Life Edits
Podcast Description:This week on the podcast, the girls are getting real about friendship! They dive into Louise Thompson’s article on the fine art of life editing and tackle the burning question: Are you a bad friend if you’re flaking? With plenty of laughs and honest reflections, they explore how their own friendships have changed over time and how relationships evolve as we grow. From navigating the tricky balance of personal growth to keeping those connections strong, this episode is all about the ups, downs, and everything in between when it comes to friendship! Tune in for some relatable, heartfelt, and fun conversation!

S1 Ep 125Chance Encounters
In this week’s episode of That’s Not the Point Podcast, we welcome Jay, the new co-host! We dive into their Chance Encounter and share the story of how Gio and Jay first met. From a hilarious and unexpected connection to the twists of fate that brought them together, it’s a tale of serendipity you won’t want to miss! Plus, the ladies open up about their dreams and the visions they have for their lives as expats in Germany. Tune in for an episode filled with laughter, reflection, and a whole lot of fun!

S1 Ep 124Was I Ma'amed?
On this episode, the girls dive into some everyday frustrations and nostalgic moments! First, they discuss the curious experience of being addressed as "ma'am"—is it a compliment or a social faux pas? They also bring you the latest updates on Ozempic (because, yes, they’re still tracking it!). Gio shares her growing frustration with American drug stores locking up basic necessities like deodorant, a trend not commonly seen in European stores. And finally, they take a fun walk down memory lane, exploring Tash’s CD collection and the nostalgic vibes that come with it.

S1 Ep 123Cultural Cues
This week, the girls are diving deep into how different cultures are actually viewed in America—because, let’s be real, it’s not always what we expect. Is it history shaping our views, or is Hollywood calling the shots? Tune in as they unpack how movies influence stereotypes and perceptions, and how they shape the way we see the world. Plus, they chat about our celebrity power—are we overhyping it? Do other countries buy into it too?

S1 Ep 122 Monoculture Meltdown
This episode, the girls dive into America's all-consuming obsession with Hollywood and celebrity culture, and how it stacks up against Europe's much more chill take on fame. We’re talking the crazy ways we’ve elevated stars to near-godlike status. Plus, we throw it back to a time when we were all on the same cultural page – before the internet blew it all wide open.

Monoculture Meltdown
This episode, the girls dive into America's all-consuming obsession with Hollywood and celebrity culture, and how it stacks up against Europe's much more chill take on fame. We’re talking the crazy ways we’ve elevated stars to near-godlike status. Plus, we throw it back to a time when we were all on the same cultural page – before the internet blew it all wide open.

S1 Ep 121From SAD to Glad
On this week’s episode, the girls get into the topic of Seasonal Affective Disorder (SAD) – that dreaded winter slump that many of us face.The girls explore ways to combat the winter blues, whether it’s getting outside, staying active, or finding moments of light during the darker days. Tune in for relatable insights and maybe even a little comfort if you’re feeling the seasonal struggle too!

S1 Ep 120Our talk with Chris from 🇩🇲 Dominica
This week on That’s Not the Point, the girls chat with Chris from the island of Dominica 🇩🇲, a young expat living in Germany. He shares his journey of adapting to a new culture, the challenges of expat life, and the dreams he’s pursuing abroad. Tune in for an inspiring conversation about expat life and chasing goals from a Caribbean perspective. For more on Chris and his work at Dominicoeur, visit www.dominicoeur.de.If you’d like to share your own expat journey in Germany, reach out to us at [email protected]. We’d love to hear from you!!
S1 Ep 119Sipping Glühwein
The girls dive into the cozy, communal vibes of European holiday traditions—think glühwein, violet smocks, and twinkling festive lights. Why don’t Americans embrace more of these heartwarming rituals?They also tackle the inevitable holiday indulgences: sweet treats, festive drinks, and the weight gain that seems to follow every gathering. Is it possible to enjoy the season guilt-free? Join them for laughter, thoughtful reflections, and a sprinkle of holiday cheer!

S1 Ep 118Raclette Night
On this episode of Not The Point, the girls dive into the delicious world of Raclette, exploring what this melted cheese dish is all about and how Europeans embrace this culinary tradition during the holidays. They also tackle theater etiquette, laying out the do's and don'ts for a respectful experience. And finally, they ask an intriguing question: Is meeting a man at a car wash a stroke of genius?

S1 Ep 117Karen Culture, Food Safety, and SNL's Golden Year
On this week’s Not The Point, we dive into Karen behaviors and why food regulations between the US and Europe matter. Are chemicals in our food changing our behavior? Plus, the difference between a prosthetic and a prosthesis, and celebrating 50 years of SNL!

S1 Ep 116Fading Drawls
On today’s episode of That’s Not the Point Podcast, the girls dive into the power of intervention. What would you do if you witnessed someone being harassed? Do you step in, or stay back? And are newer generations more likely to get involved?The conversation then shifts to accents, as they discuss the disappearance of regional accents worldwide. Plus, they unpack the Barnum Effect—our human tendency to see ourselves in vague, inaccurate descriptions.Great news! You can now follow That’s Not the Point on Twitter (or X, or whatever it’s called now) and reach out at [email protected]!

S1 Ep 115Burnt Toast
On this episode of That’s Not the Point Podcast, the girls dive into female empowerment initiatives happening in local communities. One of the ladies shares her experience visiting an inspiring English-speaking women’s empowerment group. Plus, is Poland shaping up to be the next summer travel hotspot? Should Warsaw be on their itinerary for next year?Also in this episode, the girls cover the Burnt Toast Theory, a perspective suggesting that small, seemingly negative events—like burning your toast in the morning—might actually lead to unexpected positive outcomes later in the day.

S1 Ep 114Growing Pains
On this episode of That’s Not the Point Podcast, the girls dive into the latest plastic surgery trends and the world of body modifications. From regrettable tattoos to the art of self-expression, they explore it all. Plus, they take a nostalgic turn, dishing on the drama behind '80s sitcom beefs and debating whether television reboots are a thing of the past—or here to stay.🎙️ Got it! Follow @notthepointpod on X for updates and to join the conversation!

S1 Ep 113Eye on the Bonsai
On this episode, the girls dive into house-sitting—whether it's a neighborly favor or a major ask. Are you close enough for that responsibility?They also break down some summer vibes with a beach etiquette chat—because, yes, there are rules! And ever been invited to a destination wedding? The girls weigh in on whether it’s a dreamy celebration or a costly burden for friends and family.They also touch on power dynamics in the workplace, especially in the world of entertainment. Can you really be friends with your boss?Plus, we’re throwing it back to the Aughts! Remember those days?

S1 Ep 112Nomophobia
In this episode, the girls tackle menu anxiety—you know, that panic when it’s your turn to order at a restaurant and you’re still clueless? Do you freeze up when faced with too many choices? Plus, they dive into the modern-day phenomenon of nomophobia—the fear of being without your phone—and unpack what exactly phubbing is and how it’s creeping into our daily lives. Tune in for some laughs about these quirky anxieties!

S1 Ep 111Sturdy Guts
On today’s episode, the girls are indulging in their love for British comedies—from cheeky humor to iconic characters, they’re diving deep into what makes these shows so irresistible. But that’s not all! They’re chatting about greedy guts, sugary cocktails, and all the snacks that fuel their binge-watching.But wait—there’s more! The girls take a fun (and slightly guilty) trip around the globe as they count down the Top 10 Fattest Countries—where does your country land on the list? And to top it all off, they’re swooning over the European art of the siesta—because who doesn’t love a perfectly timed midday nap?Join the convo and help us grow our community! 🎙️ Give us a follow on X @notthepointpod for updates, laughs, and all the behind-the-scenes fun. Let’s keep the conversation going!

S1 Ep 110 Manosphere Madness
In today’s episode, the girls are diving deep into the Manosphere—what exactly is it, and where did this wild phenomenon come from? Are we delusional for thinking mail-order brides weren’t always a thing? Is this movement just a passing fad, or is it here to stay? And what about the rise of passport bros—who are they, and how have we all missed this trend?But that’s not all! They’re also tackling the topic of mistresses—were the mistresses of yesteryear really more 'classy,' or have modern-day mistresses lost their couth? They’re breaking it all down, so buckle up, because it’s about to get real!

S1 Ep 109 Hip-Hop and Hall Passes
On today's episode of That's Not the Point, the girls dive into all things Hip-Hop & Hall Passes. They break down their top 5 hip-hop artists, question why female rappers often get left out, and reveal their ultimate hall pass picks. Plus, they take a nostalgic trip, wondering where roller skating and inline skating went—and why it’s time to bring it back - for adults.

S1 Ep 108Nepotism
In today’s episode, the girls dive into the future of nepotism, dish on celebrity riders, and take a nostalgic look back at Will & Grace. Plus, they unpack some of the juiciest sitcom beefs. Tune in for a mix of hot takes and deep dives.