That's Messed Up: An SVU Podcast

Today’s episode covers “Collateral Damages” (Season 17, Episode 15), Subway’s Jared Fogle, and Liza and Kara interview SVU writer and co-executive producer, Samantha Corbin-Miller. SOURCES:The Indianapolis StarABC NewsWikipediaDaily BeastLA TimesNew York Daily NewsNBC New YorkBusiness InsiderWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:"The Internet Is Overrun With Images of Child Sexual Abuse. What Went Wrong?" by Michael H. Keller and Gabriel J.X. Dancehttps://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/09/28/us/child-sex-abuse.html?mtrref=www.google.com&assetType=REGIWALLNext week’s episode will be “Smut” (Season 10, Episode 10). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Kara and Liza cover “Lessons Learned” (Season 14, Episode 8), The Horace Mann School sex abuse scandal, and talk with star of stage and screen, Anthony Rapp. SOURCES:The New York Times - 1The New York Times - 2WikipediaThe AtlanticThe New YorkerUSA TodayWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:“The Horace Mann School’s Secret History of Sexual Abuse” by Amos Kamilhttps://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/10/magazine/the-horace-mann-schools-secret-history-of-sexual-abuse.htmlNext week’s episode will be “Collateral Damages” (Season 17, Episode 15). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week covers the SVU episode “Execution” (Season 3, Episode 15), notorious serial killer Ed Kemper, and Kara and Liza talk with series regular George Huang, aka the one and only BD Wong. SOURCES:Biography.comThomas FlightKTLA 5True Crime MagazineWikipediaWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:“Whoever Fights Monsters: My Twenty Years Tracking Serial Killers for the FBI” by Robert K. Ressler and Tom Shachtman - https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/79085.Whoever_Fights_MonstersNext week’s episode will be “Lessons Learned” (Season 14, Episode 8). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This episode covers “Glasgowman’s Wrath” (Season 16, Episode 6), the wild tale of the Slender Man stabbings, and Kara and Liza interview Chloe Csengery, the actress who portrayed Perry Gilbert. SOURCES:Beware the Slenderman (HBOMax)TMJ4 NewsABC News - 1ABC News - 220/20Milwaukee Journal SentinelThe SunWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness) - https://www.nami.org/Next week’s episode will be “Execution” (Season 3, Episode 15). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Kara and Liza cover the classic SVU episode, “Fault” (Season 7, Episode 19), the case of Joseph Edward Duncan III, and talk with legendary actor, Lou Diamond Phillips. SOURCES: PeopleFBI: Criminal PursuitMurderpediaWikipediaWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:National Center for Victims of Crime - https://victimsofcrime.org/Next week’s episode will be “Glasgowman’s Wrath” (Season 16, Episode 6). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Join Kara and Liza as they recap “Hunting Ground” (Season 13, Episode 15), discuss the heinous crimes of The Butcher Baker (Robert Hansen), and interview actress Emily Kinney. SOURCES:NY TimesThe FBI FilesAlaska DispatchWikipedia - 1Wikipedia - 2WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Porn Work: Sex, Labor, and Late Capitalism by Heather Berg - https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08HGTGG4X/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1Hacking//Hustling - https://hackinghustling.org/Next week’s episode will be “Fault” (Season 7, Episode 19). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Listeners asked for “Identity” (Season 6, Episode 12) and it’s finally here. Kara and Liza also cover the true story of David Reimer and chat with SVU’s Dr. Rebecca Hendrix, aka actress Mary Stuart Masterson. SOURCES:LA TimesNY TimesWikipediaThe Globe and MailBBC - 1BBC - 2The Oprah Winfrey ShowCBCWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:“As Nature Made Him: The Boy Who Was Raised as a Girl” by John Colapintohttps://www.publishersweekly.com/978-0-06-019211-2Next week’s episode will be “Hunting Ground” (Season 13, Episode 15). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This episode covers SVU’s “Vulnerable” (Season 4, Episode 3), the case of Kristen Gilbert, and Kara and Liza interview the actor who portrayed Hal, Andy Powers.SOURCES:Snapped (Season 23, Episode 17)WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Alzheimer’s Association - Abuse: https://www.alz.org/help-support/caregiving/safety/abuseCare For The Givers Project: https://www.instagram.com/careforthegivers/Next week’s episode will be “Identity” (Season 6, Episode 12). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This 4/20, Liza and Kara bring you a chill episode, covering SVU’s “Choreographed”, the future of microchips, and an interview with TV dad, comedian, and sometimes bad guy, Bob Saget. SOURCES:ABC NewsInverse.comBBCNY PostNPRReutersUSA TodayDangerous ThingsWikipediaWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Scleroderma Research Foundation: https://srfcure.org/Next week’s episode will be “Vulnerable” (Season 4, Episode 3). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode “Intent” (Season 19, Episode 8), the Shelly Chartier case, and talk with the SVU-catfisher herself, actress Tenea Intriago. SOURCES:Catfish: The TV Show (Season 6, Episode 12)20/20 ABC: Hooking a Catfish The SunWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:“5 Easy Ways to Protect Yourself Online” - National Cybersecurity Alliance: https://staysafeonline.org/blog/5-easy-online-safety-tips/Next week’s episode will be “Choreographed” (Season 8, Episode 9). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This episode, Liza and Kara recap SVU’s “Institutional Fail” (Season 17, Episode 4), the heartbreaking story of Nixzmary Brown, and interview the multi-talented actress, Jessica Pimentel. SOURCES:The New York Times - 1The New York Times - 2The New York Times - 3USA TodayNY Daily NewsWikipediaThe New York State SenateNew York Post - 1New York Post - 2WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The National CASA/GAL Association for Children: https://nationalcasagal.org/Next week’s episode will be “Intent” (Season 19, Episode 8). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This episode, Liza and Kara cover “Conscience” (Season 6, Episode 6), adolescent murderer Eric M. Smith, and chat with SVU executive producer and showrunner (seasons 2-12), Neal Baer. SOURCES:CBS NewsThe New York TimesDemocrat & ChronicleThe Steuben Courier AdvocateWikipediaWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:“When Your Child is a Psychopath” - Story by Barbara Bradley Hagerty: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2017/06/when-your-child-is-a-psychopath/524502/Next week’s episode will be “Institutional Fail” (Season 17, Episode 4). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Kara and Liza celebrate their Sweet 16, talking all things 16th Precinct, “Sugar” (Season 11, Episode 2), and the case of Jasmine Fiore. They also interview the charming and amazing actor, Eric McCormack. SOURCES:Entertainment WeeklyTrue Crime with Aphrodite Jones (Season 2, Episode 7 - Available on Discovery+)ABC NewsWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Red Canary Song: https://www.redcanarysong.net/Next week’s episode will be “Conscience” (Season 6, Episode 6). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Kara and Liza delve into the world of hip hop in SVU’s “Broken Rhymes” (Season 18, Episode 6) followed by a closer look at the alleged relationship between Tyga and Mia Isabella that it’s based on. Plus, an interview with legendary musician and actor, Wyclef Jean. SOURCES: Lovebscott.comTerezowens.comVICEInternational Business Times - 1International Business Times - 2Daily MirrorWikipedia - 1Wikipedia - 2Wikipedia - 3WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Trans Lifeline: https://translifeline.org/Next week’s episode will be “Sugar” (Season 11, Episode 2). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this week’s episode, Kara and Liza breakdown SVU’s “Stranger” (Season 10, Episode 11), and the two crimes it’s based on: serial impostor Frédéric Bourdin and the harrowing story of survivor Elisabeth Fritzl. Plus, an interview with actress Ellen Woglom. SOURCES:(1) Frédéric Bourdin:WikipediaBird In FlightYouTubeTime(2) Elisabeth Fritzl: Independent 1Independent 2The New York TimesThe Daily MirrorWikipediaThe SunWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: National Center for Missing and Exploited Children: https://www.missingkids.org/Next week’s episode will be “Broken Rhymes” (Season 18, Episode 6). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week’s episode covers SVU’s “Serendipity” (Season 5, Episode 5), the crimes of Dr. John Schneeberger, and Kara and Liza interview SVU legend ADA Casey Novak, actress Diane Neal. SOURCES:Forensic FilesCrime MagazineCBCWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Joyful Heart Foundation: http://www.joyfulheartfoundation.org/Next week’s episode will be “Stranger” (Season 10, Episode 11). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Kara and Liza discuss “Counselor, It’s Chinatown” (Season 21, Episode 7) and The Orchids of Asia Day Spa story. Plus an interview with comedy icon and fellow SVU superfan, Margaret Cho, who portrayed Evelyn Lee.SOURCES:Vanity Fair - 1Vanity Fair - 2Palm Beach Post - 1Palm Beach Post - 2 Palm Beach Post - 3Rolling StoneABC NewsWPTV NewsNY MagWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:From That’s Messed Up listener, Mary Haggerty: Shared Hope International’s informational guide - “Responding to Sex Trafficking Victim Offender Intersectionality” https://sharedhope.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/SH_Responding-to-Sex-Trafficking-Victim-Offender-Intersectionality2020_FINAL.pdfNext week’s episode will be “Serendipity” (Season 5, Episode 5). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This episode, Kara and Liza recap “Mean” (Season 5, Episode 17), cover the case of Shanda Sharer, and talk to the ultimate mean girl, Brittany, aka Kelli Garner. SOURCES:The 1990’s: The Deadliest Decade (Episode: The New Girl)WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Stomp Out Bullying: https://www.stompoutbullying.org/Lambda Legal: https://www.lambdalegal.org/know-your-rights/article/trans-resources-incarcerated-peopleNext week’s episode will be “Counselor, It’s Chinatown” (Season 21, Episode 7). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week Kara and Liza are taking it back to the beginning, covering SVU’s “Slaves” (Season 1, Episode 22) and the story of Colleen Stan, plus an interview with Captain Cragen himself, actor Dann Florek.SOURCES:Colleen Stan: Girl in the Box, Part 1Colleen Stan: Girl in the Box, Part 2WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Write to the CA Parole Board and Governor Gavin Newsom to express your concerns about the potential early release of Cameron Hooker. Cameron HookerCDCR #: D18324Board of Parole HearingsPost Office Box 4036Sacramento, CA 95812-4036Phone: 916-445-4072CDCR Office of Survivor Rights and [email protected] Gavin Newsom1303 10th Street, Suite 1173Sacramento, CA 95814Phone: (916) [email protected]://govapps.gov.ca.gov/gov40mail/Next week’s episode will be “Mean” (Season 5, Episode 17). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this week’s episode, Liza and Kara chat “Lost Traveler” (Season 13, Episode 9), the story of Leiby Kletzky, and interview SVU-favorite, Scott William Winters.SOURCES:NYMag -1NYMag - 2The New York TimesNY PostBrooklyn PaperWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:If you want to learn more about the Romani community, this article from The Daily Beast is very informative: https://www.thedailybeast.com/american-gypsies-are-a-persecuted-minority-that-is-starting-to-fight-backScott William Winters program, Prison Fellowship: https://www.prisonfellowship.org/Next week’s episode will be “Slaves” (Season 1, Episode 22). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Kara and Liza tackle the SVU episode “Pornstar’s Requiem” (Season 16, Episode 5), the story of Belle Knox, and interview the actor who plays a controversial judge, Richard T. Jones.SOURCES:Becoming Belle Knox - Ep 1Becoming Belle Knox - Ep 2Becoming Belle Knox - Ep 3Becoming Belle Knox - Ep 4Becoming Belle Knox - Ep 5The ViewRolling StoneWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:End Rape on Campus: https://endrapeoncampus.org/Next week’s episode will be “Lost Traveler” (Season 13, Episode 9). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Join Kara and Liza this week as they recap “Accredo” (Season 20, Episode 5), talk all things NXIVM, and interview the actor who portrays a convincing cult leader, Sebastian Roché.SOURCES:HBO’s The VowForbesThe New York Times - 1The New York Times - 2Times UnionVanity Fair - 1Vanity Fair - 2Vanity Fair - 3NewsweekKatie HillWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:RAINN: https://www.rainn.org/Next week’s episode will be “Pornstar’s Requiem” (Season 16, Episode 5). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

On this week’s episode, Kara and Liza cover “Counterfeit” (Season 3, Episode 14), the crimes of Craig Peyer, and chat with SVU-regular, Michael O’Keefe.SOURCES:Forensic FilesCBS 8 San DiegoNBC 7 San DiegoWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Join Cara Knott's family in writing to CA Governor Gavin Newsom to block any early release for Craig Peyer: https://govapps.gov.ca.gov/gov40mail/Next week’s episode will be “Accredo” (Season 20, Episode 5). See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Liza and Kara dig into the episode “Babes” (Season 10, Episode 6), the scenario it’s based on, and hear from the pregnancy pact ringleader herself, Fidelia, aka Jess Varley.SOURCES:Mass Alliance on Teen PregnancyGloucester 18 TrailerGloucester 18 ScenesInside EditionMarieClaireWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:Planned Parenthood: http://www.plannedparenthood.org/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This episode, Kara and Liza take listeners through SVU's "Burned" (Season 8, Episode 11), the incredible story of survivor Yvette Cade, and talk with the actress who portrays Tessa, Tiffany Evans.SOURCES:OprahABC NewsWashington Post HLNWUSA 9WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO:The Hotline - https://www.thehotline.org/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Kara and Liza cover the SVU episode "Raw" (Season 7, Episode 6), the multiple true crimes the episode is ripped from, and chat with Oscar-winner and icon, Marcia Gay Harden. SOURCES:Washington PostNew York TimesChicago TribuneFox 32 Chicago Indiana UniversitySouthern Poverty Law CenterFBIYouTubeMatthew F Hale (Wiki) Benjamin Nathaniel Smith (Wiki)Kingston Courthouse Shooting (Wiki)WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: Ricky Byrdsong Memorial See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, Kara and Liza take listeners through Liza’s all-time favorite SVU episode, “Damaged” (Season 4, Episode 11) and the true crime it’s based on, The Ken and Barbie Killers. Plus a visit from Ari Graynor! SOURCES: Ken and Barbie Killers - YouTubeEsquireWHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: If you are interested in learning more about psychopathy, check out The Psychopath Test, by Jon Ronson. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

In their first episode, Kara and Liza recap SVU’s “Bully” (Season 12, Episode 18) and the true scenarios (Leona Helmsley and R. Budd Dwyer) the episode is based on. Plus an interview with the “bully” herself, Kate Burton. SOURCES:Barbara Walters SpecialR. Budd Dwyer WHAT WOULD SISTER PEG DO: For more information on workplace bullying, visit https://workplacebullying.org/. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Meet Kara and Liza: friends, comedians, Law & Order: SVU superfans, and hosts of Exactly Right’s newest true crime podcast, That's Messed Up. Each week, the pair take a deep dive into an iconic SVU episode, reveal the true crime it's based on, and chat up actors involved in the production—cult leaders and fruit vendors alike. From classic crimes to ones that didn’t make the headlines—you’ll hear them all. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.