
The role of internet measurement in the battle for digital rights
Telemetry Now · Phil Gervasi
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About this episode
<p>In this episode, Peter Micek, General Counsel and UN Advocacy Manager at Access Now, joins us to discuss the fight for digital rights across the globe. We touch on nation-state activity to put down protests, the nature of digital rights as part of human rights, and the role internet measurement data has played in the effort to secure peoples' access to information. </p><p><br></p><p>Key Takeaways:</p><ul><li>[00:00 - 02:07] Episode introduction</li><li>[02:26 - 04:32] How Peter got into digital rights advocacy and human rights</li><li>[04:35 - 06:05] Introduction to Doug Madory</li><li>[06:13 - 09:33] Human rights and digital rights, are they synonymous?</li><li>[09:33 - 11:34] Background on the Egyptian internet crisis in 2011, and the practice of internet shutdowns</li><li>[11:35 - 12:54] The severity of the Egyptian shutdown</li><li>[12:58 - 14:20] How other countries saw an opportunity to emulate the Egyptian government</li><li>[14:21 - 16:12] The collateral damage and impact of the government shutting down internet infrastructure</li><li>[16:14 - 19:01] Changes in policy and the UN Human Rights Council's first resolution on internet free speech</li><li>[19:01 - 21:16] Access Now's guide "The Anatomy of an Internet Shutdown"</li><li>[21:18 - 23:31] Censorship, internet shutdowns, and human rights violations: how they're connected</li><li>[23:32 - 24:52] The end goals of internet shutdowns</li><li>[24:53 - 27:45] Why do countries do this when data shows it isn't particularly effective? Lessons from Yemen, Ukraine, Syria, and the Arab Spring</li><li>[27:46 - 29:35] How do governments even achieve completely shutting down the internet and/or services?</li><li>[29:36 - 31:01] Combatting shutdowns through cyber security and change mitigation</li><li>[31:02 - 31:45] Why it's more difficult for countries to shutdown infrastructure when intertwined with Western countries</li><li>[31:46 - 33:18] How Access Now works with leaders to show that internet shutdowns aren't effective</li><li>[33:19 - 35:01] What do gains in preventing shutdowns look like? Is it just turning the internet back on?</li><li>[35:06 - 37:16] Egypt as a mental model for governments shutting down internet infrastructure</li><li>[37:21 - 39:54] How Access Now tries to reinforce meaningful connectivity</li><li>[39:57 - 42:22] Access Now's global interests and how they track activity with Doug</li><li>[42:25 - 45:21] The kind of information Doug provides Access Now from a technical perspective</li><li>[45:33 - 47:23] What Access Now's one sentence bumper sticker would say</li></ul><p><br></p><p><br></p><p><br></p>