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In this episode, we check back in with Pivotal's head of HR, Joe Militello. We discuss progress on Pivotal's pay transparency program and why it'll net help the employees and company. Also, there's some tips on practical Interviews for a creative, software driven companies like Pivotal and many of our customers. Since last we talked Pivotal went public, so we talk about the relatively small) differences in HR since then. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

With all these conferences since last time, we have to bring in Jared Ruckle to help us sort out all the news that's happened since last time. There's Dell Technologies World, CF Summit, Kubecon, and Microsoft build. We also discuss the new Built to Adapt Benchmark and how Jared's picks for other interesting, revent Pivotal content. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

All these "users" are actually people using our software. What designers, programmers, product managers, QA, and operations people put into the software and support in it has real impact on our actual life, here in the real world. Despite that, we don't have a strong sense of ethics in software, which our guest this week, Mariesa Dale, is trying to start addressing. She recently wrote a Hippocratic oath for technologists which we discuss. As always, we also go over recent infrastructure and cloud news, plus cover tips on what to take, and not take, when you go camping. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

What do you do with grumpy people? How do you track how much - or how little! - you're actually improving? These are two of the questions Richard and Coté are frequently asked. In this episode - our 100th! - we go over these two questions and others that we're often asked. Of course, we also cover our attempts to answer them. As always, we also cover some recent infrastructure news and give some business travel tips at the beginning. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

The Cloud Foundry user base and projects have expanded over the past year, adding members, users, and major components like the Container Runtime. In this episode, we catch up the CFF's Executive Director, Abby Kearns, on the Cloud Foundry ecosystem and the upcoming CF Summit. Also, Richard and Coté's tell you the sessions they're looking forward to and discuss when it's time to do the great pants to shorts switchover, plus Coté's seersucker collection. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

Part of what defines an application as "cloud native" is an application and management style described by "the 12 factors." While these seem simple at first, each of them just the top of the iceberg of recommendations. Coté plumbs the depths with Nate Schutta to see what's under the waterline. They also discuss where state is in this stateless model and how it's managed. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

Developer tools have changed wildly over the past 10 years from build tools to IDEs. The IDEs available have not only increased, but usage of each has grown. In this episode, Richard & Coté talk with Martin Lippert about Spring Tools 4. And, as always, we cover some recent news in the cloud, infrastructure, and development spaces, plus, the squirrels of Coté's yard. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

Security is more about more than finding holes and devising patches. For one, once you find those holes and have a patch, you have to make sure everyone not only knows about them, but applies them. We talk about how Pivotal is doing this both inside Pivotal and with our customers, with Molly Crowther. Also, we talk about tactics for getting your developers more security conscious, in a way that both is useful and doesn't spook them off. As always, we also cover some recent news and discuss the merits of dog licks. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

While much of the magic of cloud native apps comes from being stateless, state must exist somewhere. Not only does this data need to be stored and accessible, but just as with the source code and builds for your application, the backing databases need to be managed and included in the build pipeline. Datical has been working on this problem for sometime. In this episode, their CTO, Robert Reeves, discusses all of this with us. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

All the kids are crazy for kubernetes. And for good reason, it's helping smooth out the rough, weird area between IaaS and PaaS, making it easier for organizations to run their IT in a cloud native fashion. In this episode, Richard and Coté talk with Pivotal's Paul Czarkowski about the history, purpose, and experience of running kubernetes. We also touch on how it intermixes and effects serveless and DevOps. Plus, we talk about doing CFPs, and, as always, we also go over recent news in the infrastructure world. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

Doing proper, product-driven, user-driven agile in large organizations is hard. Much of it, of course, has to do with organizational processes that are inflexible and built around long-term planning. Emily Tate knows all this first hand, and we discuss her about her recent talk on this topic. As always, we also go over recent news in the infrastructure world. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

Open source has become one of the most popular - if not the most popular? - ways of producing and maintaining software. What are the advantages for developers, and how should organizations evaluate the long term viability of open source projects? We discuss these topics, plus a little bit of a look back at the history of commercialized open source in this episode.

Technology and process are important when it comes to improving how you do software, but selling the organization on the change is always an issue. GAIC's Jon Osborn gave a great talk on navigating the "no's" to change at SpringOne platform. The day before he gave the talk, Coté talked with him about his experience getting a large organization onboard with cloud native and agile concepts, all the way down to tactics like how like slides and business cases. He also talks with Ben Romito who'd moved from doing .Net development at GAIC to Java development. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

Very few enterprises start with a pure green field portfolio, with the ability to create and manage applications in a cloud native mode. They often need to intermix "legacy" style application with these new ones, let alone just run the applications on their own. While at SpringOne Platform, Coté talked with Ben Wilcock about a project he'd worked that fits right in here. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

At the end of the year there's no end of predictions from the IT analyst would. In this episode, Richard and I talk with Pivotal's head analyst relations, Rita Manachi. We cover predictions in software development, infrastructure and cloud, and handful of miscellaneous ones like AI. Just for funsies, each of us throws in a prediction as well, plus a bonus book recommendation to start the new year with. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

While event-driven applications have existed for as long as our cyber-memories can rollback, we're seeing a revitalization of interest in them at the moment. In this episode, Coté talks with Kenny Bastani about his talk on this topic, meandering from some basics on the topic, to why you'd be interested in this architecture style, to the benefits of it. Matt Curry also joins into the discussion. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

How is DevOps actually panning out in organizations? In this episode recorded at SpringOne Platform, Kenny Bastani and I talk with Matt Curry about his talk on putting DevOps in place. We discuss how being more open in conversations helps build trust, shifting to a product-centric approach, and some ideas about scaling DevOps. Also, we discuss the idea of "is DevOps actually real," a favorite topic of Coté's. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

The best conference in cloud native is right around the corner, SpringOne Platform, Dec 4th to 7th. Chock full of actual end-users and enterprises (along with your friends from Pivotal), it'll be a great time to learn about new technologies and how to improve how your organization does software. There's somewhere around 150 sessions. Richard and Coté go over some of their highlights, what to get out of the conference, and, as always, some recent infrastructure software news. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

Spring Boot is unquestionably a popular framework and has been rising in popularity as the months flip by. In this episode we're joined by Greg Turnquist who talks about the second edition of his book, Learning Spring Boot. We also talk about the process of writing a book and Greg's fiction writing.

The benefits of truly doing agile and XP are well proven at this point. Supported by a platform like Pivotal Cloud Foundry, you can expect to start improving how you do software. That said, cloud native development is a new style of doing software, from pair programming, to following 12 factor coding practices, and breaking apart software into independent services. It helps to get some training on this shift, which is what the Platform Acceleration Lab at Pivotal does. In this episode, we talk with Michael Barinek about that team, how it operates, and a little bit about the training they do. As always, we discuss some infrastructure software related news and explore some options for keeping warm.

Your build pipeline is one of your most valuable assets in a cloud native organization. When you need to build and test your application, managing all the dependencies, branches, and, not to mention setting up your cloud environments is no small feat. And then there's the whole part where you deploy to production as well. In this episode, Richard and Coté talk with Pivotal's James Ma and Lyle Murphy about Concourse, the build pipeline system that's used by Pivotal and several of Pivotal's customers to manage, well, their pipelines.

After a brief overview of some recent kubernetes news (Docker has added support), we talk with Jared Ruckle about the new features and updates in Pivotal Cloud Foundry 1.12. There are, as always, many security updates including tools to help migrate to CredHub and mTLS. Also, .Net support has widened in the Steeltoe framework and additional operational functionality. We also discuss the small footprint Pivotal Cloud Foundry profile which compliments the PCFDev desktop profile, as well as PCF Metrics.

There's a new option for running kubernetes, Pivotal Container Service, or PKS. PKS uses the underlying management layer from Pivotal Cloud Foundry to create a standardized cluster manager. This means you can run your applications in the existing Pivotal Cloud Foundry runtime, the Elastic Run Time (ERT) or PKS. With both of these runtimes in PCF, you can run virtually anytime of application, from cloud native apps to I/O intensive and "legacy" applications. We talk with Cornelia Davis about PKS and also here upcoming book, Cloud Native. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

We’re back after a month off with tales of New Zealand’s expansive bacon selection, discussion of the new Spring Framework version, and CF Summit EU. We also discuss three pieces of ours from the past month on the usual topics of why all this cloud-native stuff is kind of a big deal.

A couple weeks ago Pivotal announced how kubo is being productized into Pivotal Cloud Foundry, namely, as Pivotal Container Service (or "PKS"). We discuss what PKS is and the types of workloads it seems suited for compared to the existing Pivotal Cloud Foundry platform. There's also a couple of studies about container adoption and some other news from the infrastructure software world.

We discuss a retail-oriented demo application that looks around trying to find latent buyers. See the project diagram we mention here: https://twitter.com/sct/status/878377986520633344

"Agile Long Term Planning" sounds like an oxymoron. Or does it? A common misunderstanding about agile methodology is that it doesn't get along with long-term planning. In this episode, Coté talks with Joanna Beltowska on the topic of long-term planning in cloud-native organizations. Being agile doesn't mean a lack of vision, strategy, or a road-map at all. Indeed, those activities are more important than ever, but adding in the ability to experiment with theories and learn from the results in key. It's not that we don't want strategy and long-term planning: we want those, but with the ability to correct and modify them as they collide with the buzz-saw of reality. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast Transcript: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/p7yqhyynfrvptla/AACwF7VfYZNaXzHjkkooZoe3a?dl=0

It's a white paper party! Jared Ruckle helped several Pivotal platform architects put together four white papers, all released last week, on microservices, PCI, build pipelines, and BOSH. Jared gives us a brief overview of each paper and tells us his highlights. We also discuss recent infrastructure news from Amazon, the world of RAD-cum-low-code, and a bevy of new hype-cycles in the appdev space. The papers: https://content.pivotal.io/blog/the-whiteboard-sessions-introducing-a-new-tech-paper-series Show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast Transcript: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/wwl4j34afmom384/AAB7tDv5--cDRPzrpZHh-HMVa?dl=0

Hey, so data matters. Where are you supposed to stick it and does anything about that change when you’re acting all cloudy? Coté and Richard talked to Ben Laplanche who leads up Pivotal’s data services effort. We chat about what Pivotal offers, how the role of the DBA is changing, what to consider when crafting “high availability”, and more.

It's probably a good idea to learn about enterprise architecture by talking to someone who's actually done it. In this episode, we talk with Stuart Charlton, now of Pivotal, but previously of roles where he EA's, even back in the SOA era! We discuss the mapping of traditional EA to cloud-native, and also some strategies for Coté to increase his Twitter followers, and, as ever, some recent cloud-native news. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/blog Transcript: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/774jj5umouoiaob/AACmwBobWX7cOTI2ZXSGT6VSa?dl=0

In the cloud-native and DevOps world, there's a lot of hand-wringing and snark around the role of "enterprise architect." At scale, the goals of this EA function seem to be valuable: understanding and translating to IT what the business does and how it functions, ensuring that best practices and technologies are used, and helping make sure IT is actually helping the business with as little risk taken on as possible. However, the relationship between EAs and cloud-native teams seems a bit misaligned at the moment. This week, Coté talks about his research so far into figuring out how "traditional" enterprise architects could and should figure into cloud-native think, mostly by giving an overview of 2006 book on the topic. As ever, we also discuss some recent cloud-native news. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast Transcript: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v3odxmabapz600k/AABDLIqlUujB4wEDeCH3TKURa?dl=0

There's some exciting private cloud news on the horizon with Microsoft's Azure Stack coming out in September. We discuss the brief history of private cloud and several models people have tried, along with some other news from the infrastructure software world. With no guest, Richard and I discuss some projects we're working from cloud-native .Net, enterprise integration, and enterprise architecture. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast Transcript: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/c1bxamn5wskej9m/AAA-Qw21XFGdacysg_E2nPqYa?dl=0

Cloud Foundry for operations staff can seem a bit of a black box. Lucky for you, Duncan Winn's new book, Cloud Foundry: The Definitive Guide is freshly out, making that box much more clear. We talk with Duncan about his new book, giving an overview of the book, who it's for, and delving into some of the contents like BOSH. As always, we also discuss some recent infrastructure software news like new Google Cloud regions, Microsoft's new cloud sales force, and an early preview of SpringOne Platform. See show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

Operating IT in a cloud-native mindset requires changes up and down the stack, especially in operations. The degree of automation in the stack changes the need for much of the manual work and process-driven checks and balances in IT ops as we know it. In this episode, we talk with Pivotal's Tony Hansmann on what those changes are, how the technology pushes these changes, and some of the barriers. See full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

In this episode we talk with Todd Persen on the topic of monitoring cloud-native applications with Pivotal Cloud Foundry Metric. We discuss the changing nature of monitoring in cloud-native platforms, how developers can now turn black-boxes into white-boxes, why time-series dominates the thought-technology in this space now, and the benefits of open source taking over most innovation in systems management. Richard is out this week, so Andrew Shafer returns to fill in as co-host. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

Previewing his CF Summit talk, Gary White explains what blockchain is and how it's being integrated into Cloud Foundry as a service. We start talking about how blockchain works and what kinds of capabilities it provides, beyond just bitcoin. We use the example of a shoe supply-chain to go over an example of using a blockchain verified ledger. Gary then goes over some examples of blockchain could be used in Cloud Foundry and how folks he's working with are integrated it into the platform for easy, reliable use by product teams. If you're interested in attending CF Summit (June 13th to 15th in Santa Clara, CA) to see Gary's talk - and many, many others! - use the code cfsv17cote when you register to get 20% off. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

There's a whole slurry of myths about Cloud Foundry. With the platform updating so quickly, many of the issues behind these myths have long been addressed, and many were just false from the get-go. Coté and Richard talk about a recent post dismissing common myths. We also discuss recent news from the infrastructure software world and go over a bunch of upcoming events that Pivotal will be at. See full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

Networking and storage are two of the most difficult and complex parts of a cloud-native platform. In this episode we talk with Usha Ramachandran who product managers containing networking and volume services in Cloud Foundry. We discuss the networking problems being solved with c2c and why networking problems is so difficult. While not as extensive, we have a brief conversation around storage. Also, as ever, we discuss some recent news from DockerCon, Google voice services, and the recent Spring Cloud Data Flow release. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

In preparation for his DevOpsDays Atlanta talk, Josh and Coté (well, mostly Coté) talk about the relationship between microservices and DevOps. They use the CAMS framing to go over how microservices could provide the architectural requirements to make DevOps possible. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

The Google SRE book is a great collection of Google's practices, approaches, and management priorities that form the basis of how Google operates and builds their overall platform. Google Site Reliability Engineers are a combination of system administrator and programmer who spend about half of their time on traditional operations "toil" and the other half actually coding updates and net-net services and platforms used by the product teams at Google. Andrew Shafer and Coté discuss a general overview of the book and then highlight some of the more interesting and generally applicable topics. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

A new release of Pivotal Cloud Foundry was announced today, version 1.10. We bring back Jared Ruckle to discuss the highlights of the release, namely: further .Net and Windows support, monitoring and tracing improvements, several security and networking additions, and several other improvements to the platform. As usual, we also discuss some recent infrastructure and cloud news from the likes of VMware, Rackspace, and the Cloud Native Computing Foundation. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

This week we talk with about how organizations are increasingly looking to improve how they use data and workflows around data to innovate in their business. As with discuss with our guest, Sina Sojoodi, More than the usual ideas about "big data" and "machine learning," we talk about the practical uses of data workflows like insurance claims handling and retail optimization. In many large, successful organizations the stacks to support all this processing are aging and not providing the agility businesses want. Of course, as you can guess, we have some suggestions for how to fix those problems, and also how to start thinking about data workflows differently. We also cover some recent news, mostly around Google Cloud Next and Pivotal's recent momentum announcement. See full show notes at http://pivotal.io/podcast

What does it really mean to "run like Google"? Is that even a good idea? Andrew Shafer comes back to the podcast to talk with Coté about how the Google SRE book and the newly announced Google CRE program start addressing those questions. We discuss some of the general princiapls, and "small" ones too that are in those bodies of work and how they represent an interesting evolution of it IT management is done. Many of the concepts that the DevOps and cloud-native community talks about pop in Google's approach to operations and software delivery, providing a good, hyper-scale case study of how to do IT management and software development for distrbuted applications. We also discuss Pivotal's involvement in the Google CRE program. See full show notes at http://pivotal.io/podcast

In this episode, Richard and Coté talk with Dieu Cao, the Elastic Runtime PMC, about how work on the open source Cloud Foundry code base works, prioritizing features, and some of the projects she works on like isolation segments. While we have her, we also talk about the naming schemes of Cloud Foundry components and the evolution of QA from way back in Dieu's early days as a tester. Our short news segment goes over Microsoft buying Deis and some cloud spending indicators around public cloud capital expenditures and bank's need to rewrite piles of COBOL. Full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcast

There's a handful of cloud news to go over - AWS S3 going down, Google's new database, Spanner, and others. We then discuss some ideas for how enterprise architects can help out in a cloud-native organization. Then, we discuss Coté's new project, tactical advice for organizations who are finding it difficult to do all the right things that DevOps and cloud-native think prescriptions. See the work in progress at http://cote.io/cloud3. See full show notes at http://pivotal.io/podcast.

We talk about the traditional and new relationship between data and application development, and, now, DevOps. The world of databases, data warehouses, and other DBAs is not starting to collide with DevOps. In this episode, we talk with Dormain Drewitz, Stephen O’Grady, and Kenny Bastani about the evolving role of data in DevOps-think. See full show notes: http://pivotal.io/podcasts

We've got all your answers to "what exactly is 'cloud-native'?" in this episode with special guests Pivotal's Kenny Bastani and RedMonk's James Governor. Kenny gives us a good overview of what cloud-native is, as Coté summarizes it: handling the configuration and automation for your applications along with all the supporting frameworks and platforms to do that. We then discuss the process ("culture") angle, the origin of Spring Boot, the concept of "lock-in," and if public cloud is needed or not. Bonus: serverless talk! Full show notes and more at: http://pivotal.io/podcast

Improving how you do software requires changing how every layer your organization's functions day-to-day, from executive leadership, to middle-management, and staff. Often, middle-management is resistant to change and acts as a "frozen middle," slowing and sabotaging leadership and staff's desires to change. Along with Pivotal's Dormain Drewitz, we're joined by RedMonk's Rachel Stephens and Stephen O'Grady to discuss this frozen middle problem and tactics to thaw it. See full shows and more at http://pivotal.io/podcasts

Once you have your shiny new Pivotal Cloud Foundry instance installed, it's time to start selecting new applications to build and existing applications to migrate. Many of this second bucket will be "legacy" applications that aren't immediately compatible with the cloud native approach. Dino Cicciarelli and his team work with Pivotal customers to navigate through this process. We talk about the common process, roadblocks, and mental shifts people go through to be successful. One of the chief thought-technologies deployed is to start working on real, actual applications rather than inflicting a long process of analysis paralysis on yourself. We also cover a sampling of recent news: Visual Studio and Cloud Foundry, patent troll protection in Azure, and Snap's whopping spend on public cloud. See full show notes at http://pivotal.io/podcasts

What's the best way to categorize and prioritize your IT projects? Splitting them up between systems of record (ERP) and systems of engagement (user-facing apps) is a popular mode of thinking, highly related to bi-modal IT. In this episode, guest Ian Andrews explains why this framing is a bad idea and offers a value-driven way of thinking about it instead, along with plenty of commentary from Coté and Richard. See full show notes at: http://cote.io/conversations49