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Talking Writing

Martha Nichols, John Vogel, and Neva Talladen

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Show overview

Talking Writing has been publishing since 2022, and across the 4 years since has built a catalogue of 64 episodes. That works out to roughly 45 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a monthly cadence, with the show now in its 6th season.

Episodes typically run thirty-five to sixty minutes — most land between 37 min and 50 min — and the run-time is fairly consistent across the catalogue. Roughly 22% of episodes carry an explicit flag from the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language Arts show.

The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 2 weeks ago, with 6 episodes already out so far this year. The busiest year was 2024, with 20 episodes published. Published by Martha Nichols, John Vogel, and Neva Talladen.

Episodes
64
Running
2022–2026 · 4y
Median length
43 min
Cadence
Monthly

From the publisher

A Podcast for Writers, Readers, and Creative LifersWe keep creating against the odds, because we long for purpose and meaning in a chaotic world. Join the staff of Talking Writing magazine as we talk to artists of all mediums about their personal and creative lives – and the intersections between the two.

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Michael Sanchez Looks Behind the Curtain

May 5, 20261h 0m

S6 Ep 11Lisa Borders on the Sustenance of Art in Dark Times

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Lisa Borders, author of three novels, talks with TW creative director John Vogel to talk about her newest book. Last Night at the Disco (Regal House Publishing, 2025) is a fictitious memoir framed as a letter to the former editor of Rolling Stone, Jann Wenner. That context gives the audience their first clue about the book’s narrator, Lynda Boyle.The introduction to the letter also gives us a few other vague references to crimes, the loss of a teaching position, and a “coke-fueled disco queen” that help fill in a few blanks while raising many more questions.Although humor had always been a part of Lisa’s personality and writing, for a time she leaned away from it. Her first two books, Cloud Cuckoo Land and The Fifty-First State, reflected this shift, but starting around 2016—as she developed the tone for what would become Last Night at the Disco—she started focusing on humor, including writing a submission for McSweeney's Internet Tendency over the course of a year. That piece was accepted and published as “Signs That You Are a Gen-Xer Going Through Menopause,” which went viral.In this interview the two discuss narrator Lynda Boyle, satirizing avant-garde poets, and her need to make art as the world falls apart.

Mar 26, 202645 min

S6 Ep 10Michael Jamin and the Importance of Small Moments

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For this episode TW creative director John Vogel sat down with television writer and showrunner Michael Jamin about his collection of personal essays, A Paper Orchestra.Michael’s television career started in the mid-90’s with an episode of Lois and Clark, followed by more involved work on Just Shoot Me! and King of the Hill. Other writing and production credits include Beavis and Butthead, Rules of Engagement, Maron, and Wilfred.He self-published A Paper Orchestra through his company 3 Girls Jumping, and the book was named one of the best comedy books of 2024 by Vulture. Partially inspired by David Sedaris, Michael has also developed a stage show of the essays that has evolved from readings to reenacted performances of the scenes. In this conversation Michael and John talk about different themes throughout the essays, his transition to the stage, and balancing family life with work.

Mar 4, 202639 min

S6 Ep 9Antonio Michael Downing on Inner and Outer Colonialism

Author and musician Antonio Michael Downing sits down with TW creative director John Vogel to talk about Antonio Michael's books Black Cherokee and Saga Boy, music audience expectation regarding race and incorporating varied genres, and the disregard of the tech industry when it comes to profiting off of the work of artists without compensation.If his memoir Saga Boy is a personal story grappling with the effects of colonialism on his psychology, his first full-length novel, Black Cherokee, is a story constructed to show the ways that everyone is living underneath unseen layers of history that they don’t understand.The story follows Ophelia Blue Rivers, whose Black grandmother married the Cherokee Chief Trouthands, through four slices of time from 1993 to 2005. The book begins with Grandma Blue raising her on the Cherokee reservation while the disbanded tribe figures out how to handle a cattle farm that’s polluting the river. When she’s shipped off to live with her aunt in the nearby town, Ophelia has to integrate herself into typical southern society and finding temporary fellowship in a Baptist church. As she enters high school, she again has to assimilate, this time into affluent white society.This episode is scored with the John Orpheus song, “Fela Awoke (I Will Miss You).”

Feb 18, 202658 min

S6 Ep 8Joanna Walsh on Collective Internet Aesthetics

Multidisciplinary writer Joanna Walsh sits down with TW creative director John Vogel to talk about Amateurs! How We Built Internet Culture and Why It Matters. When Joanna first started writing, lacking IRL community and instruction, she turned early Twitter to find likeminded others to share work with. It wasn’t until after she’d been working as an artist that the schooling aspect came into play, getting her PhD in Critical and Creative Writing from the University of East Anglia and a MSCA postdoctoral fellowship at Maynooth University.Joanna also founded and ran two activist campaigns on Twitter—@read_women, a movement dedicated to equal treatment for women writers, and @no_entryarts to reshape ideas about age in the arts—and wrote twelve fiction and nonfiction books, including two co-written with self-coded AI.In this conversation, the two discuss aesthetics through history, funding structures for the arts, and how policy affects access to who’s able to practice art.

Feb 4, 202655 min

S6 Ep 7Pia Leichter's Pivot to the Creative Club

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Pia Leichter, founder of Kollektiv Studio and author of Welcome to the Creative Club, talks with TW creative director John Vogel about her experience transitioning from the advertising world to the artistic path. A big shift happened in her life about ten years ago, and Pia delves into some very personal details about the events that brought about that shift. As she said in our conversation: “I wasn’t expecting to share such vulnerable stories at all. I mean, I shared stuff some of my closest friends didn’t even know about me.”The two discuss Pia’s experience with self-promoting her book, the role of the brain’s default mode network in the creative act, and the presence of the cosmos in all people. Also included in the episode are three tracks from her collaborative spoken word album Famished with electronic composer Tyler Bodkins. All the music in the episode came from that album.

Jan 15, 202658 min

S6 Ep 6Molly Gaudry Experiments With Personal Storytelling

In today’s episode author Molly Gaudry sits down with TW founder and publisher Martha Nichols. Molly holds degrees in fiction, poetry, and experimental prose, and her new book that just came out last week is aptly titled Fit Into Me: A Novel, A Memoir. The book weaves a fictional narrative into Molly’s own story along with fragments from a wide range of other authors in an effort to create a sense of self via the combination of different elements. With this format Molly explores her experience as a Korean adoptee raised in the US, meeting her birth family as a teenager, and recovering from a brain injury as an adult.In this TW conversation, Fit Into Me provides a jumping-off point for big questions about self-creation and the holes in memory that writers inevitably confront when telling their own stories. Martha and Molly discuss how she blended its nonfiction sections with the fictional story of a character (the “tea-house woman”) taken from her two previous works, We Take Me Apart (Ampersand, 2009), which was a finalist for the Asian American Literary Award; and Desire: A Haunting (Ampersand, 2018).

Dec 17, 202546 min

S6 Ep 5Nic Brown: Making Peace with his Musical Past

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In this week's episode, TW Creative Director John Vogel sits down with drummer and author Nic Brown to talk about his memoir Bang Bang Crash (Counterpoint, 2023).Despite being accepted to Ivy League colleges, Nic opted to pursue his band Athenaeum straight out of high school. They signed to Atlantic Records, landed a few hits, and played extensively before Nic decided to leave to group in 2001 to pursue different styles of music and reclaim his opportunity to go to college.While attending Columbia University, he joined up with the band Skeleton Key, headed by bass player Erik Sanko, who played in John Lurie’s Lounge Lizards. Nic also played in several other bands, including Falcon! and Longwave. This episode is scored with that first Falcon! album, The Early Year.Nic then left NYC for the Iowa's Writer's Workshop, sending him down the writing and teaching path that he's followed over the last almost 20 years.

Dec 3, 202549 min

S6 Ep 4Victor Manibo on Touching the Work Regularly

Victor Manibo, a 2022 Lambda Literary Emerging Voices Fellow, sits down with TW Community Manager Neva Talladen to discuss the drafting process for his 2022 science fiction novel, The Sleepless. Manibo and Talladen connect over their shared Filipino heritage and roots in New York, as they explore the rise of “hustle culture.” The Sleepless portrays a society where sleep is no longer necessary or even desired. Instead, young professionals like Jamie, the story’s main character and an aspiring journalist, spend endless hours working, driven by an insatiable pursuit of career advancement.

Nov 17, 20251h 3m

S6 Ep 3Tom McAllister on Writing Education and Community

TW Creative Director John Vogel interviews author Tom McAllister about his new essay collection It All Felt Impossible (Rose Metal Press, 2025). For the book, Tom challenged himself to write an essay a day that corresponded to each year of his life, keeping within a 1500 word limit. The result is a kind of mosaic memoir through snapshots across time with some tangential thoughts instigated by the memories.This is Tom’s fourth published book, his first being the 2010 memoir Bury Me in My Jersey about his late father and their shared love of the Philadelphia Eagles. His other two books are the acclaimed novels How to Be Safe and The Young Widower’s Handbook, which have both been noted for their mix of darkness and humor.In their conversation, Tom talks about the experiences of teaching and being a student, expectations along the artistic path, and the community that art can create.

Oct 29, 202556 min

S6 Ep 2Andrew Boryga on Identity Politics in Publishing

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TW Creative Director John Vogel talks with Andrew Boryga, author of the satirical novel Victim. The two talk about the autobiographic backdrop to the novel, balancing creative time with parenthood, and the addictive and distancing natures of social media.

Oct 15, 202547 min

S6 Ep 1Sasha Wizansky's Juggling Act

TW Community Manager Neva Talladen talks with visual artist and graphic designer Sasha Wizansky about her experience starting Pencil Magazine. The magazine, created entirely out of work made with pencil and paper, brings attention to the physicality of writing and drawing with pencil, as well as the slowing down that writing and reading handwriting can cause.

Oct 1, 202542 min

S5 Ep 14Athena Dixon's Highs and Lows of Writing

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In our last episode of the season, TW Creative Director John Vogel interviews author Athena Dixon, our first repeat guest for the podcast. A year and a half ago we released Neva’s interview with Athena, which focused on her book The Loneliness Files (Tin House, 2023). This time around, in January 2025, John asked her questions from his Perfect Recognition project focusing on intense aesthetic experiences and people’s life paths towards creativity. Fellow artists might find some resonance and solace in their open discussion about their own disillusionment surrounding artistic pursuit and how their lived experiences deviate from the more common narratives handed down to us.

Jun 24, 20251h 5m

S5 Ep 13Steve Hoffman and the Art of Authentic Traveling and Writing

TW proofreader Jess Barnett hosts award-winning Minnesotan food writer, Steve Hoffman, for a conversation about the unique joys and challenges of travel. Hoffman, a lover of French cuisine and culture, discusses traveling to the picturesque south of France, not as a tourist, skimming the surface of trending destinations, but as a humble guest, ready to immerse himself and his family in the cultural and culinary experience. In his recently published memoir, A Season for That: Lost and Found in the Other Southern France, Hoffman dishes out a humorous and layered perspective on marriage, parenting, and cooking in the small town of Autignac. Hoffman is a self-described Francophile and lifelong lover of literature. Like many aspiring writers, he relied on other industries for financial stability, working first in real estate before transitioning to tax preparation. Hoffman’s food writing career was launched during his family's extended stay in France in 2012. Upon returning, he wrote for the Minnesota Star Tribune about his experience abroad. His 2018 piece, “What is Northern Food?” earned Hoffman the James Beard MFK Fisher Distinguished Writing Award and propelled his career as a food writer. Hoffman describes his writing process as a decade-long reflection on “learning how to write a book, while writing one.” Stemming from journal entries during his time in France, he fashioned his writing after inspirational authors like John Updike and Jane Austen. Beyond a vivid depiction of the rural country and aromatic apprenticeship as a winemaker, he offers readers sincere vulnerability. Hoffman explores his imperfections and growth through professional coaching, caring but unvarnished feedback from his wife, and finding the balance in his writing between travel log and storytelling.Steve Hoffman continues to draw inspiration from shared experiences with his family. Following a recent house fire (thankfully no one was injured), Hoffman’s potential second book will focus on this unfortunate event as a “clarifying devastation.” As someone who closely links identity to physical place and space, he reflects on the skillful art of a simplistic lifestyle and carrying on the “minimal number of things you need to live graciously.”

Jun 4, 202535 min

S5 Ep 12Reimagining David and Bathsheba with Jeanne Blasberg

TW Podcast Production Manager Sarah Tulloch interviewed author Jeanne Blasberg this past September. Jeanne Blasberg is an award-winning and bestselling author and essayist. The two discuss her latest book, Daughter of a Promise, a modern retelling of the story of David and Bathsheba, completing the thematic trilogy she began with Eden and The Nine.

May 15, 202536 min

S5 Ep 11Mary Carroll Moore: Finding Connection Through Fiction

TW Creative Director John Vogel interviewed author Mary Carroll Moore this past November. Mary pursued a decades-long career as a food and cookbook writer before pivoting into writing instruction and self-releasing Your Book Starts Here in 2011. The two discuss her latest book, Last Bets, and her lifelong career as a creative with multiple mediums.

Apr 23, 202548 min

S5 Ep 10Nadia Pupa on the Publishing Process from Start to Finish

TW’s Community Manager Neva Talladen talks to the CEO and Co-Founder of Pique Publishing. In 2022, she was inspired to launch The Editor's Half Hour podcast—a monthly podcast that focuses on the craft of editing, industry trends, and editorial resources for advanced editors. The two discuss Nadia’s move from book coaching to starting her own publishing company, where she and her team help authors take advantage of the best book production practices.

Apr 9, 202556 min

S5 Ep 9Laura Hartenberger: What's Wrong with Chatbot Writing?

Last May, TW founder Martha Nichols spoke with Laura Hartenberger, author of the definitive 2023 essay “What AI Teaches Us About Good Writing” in Noema. Laura, who’s a lecturer in the Writing Programs at University of California at Los Angeles, is an essayist and fiction writer herself. When she spoke with Martha, they were both finishing up a turbulent spring semester that included protests for and against Israel at UCLA and Harvard. Here they confront big ethical questions surrounding AI and writing instruction. Are bots helpful tools for students or just another way of cheating? How and when should such tools be part of writing assignments? What qualities of voice and meaningful exposition are missing from chatbot writing? Can AI-generated work emotionally move readers?

Feb 13, 202544 min

S5 Ep 8Naomi Cohn On Reimagined Lexicons and Writing Forward

TW’s Neva Talladen talks to writer Naomi Cohn about her book The Braille Encyclopedia: Brief Essays on Altered Sight and the reclamation of self it explores for her as a legally blind person. A 2023 McKnight Artist Fellow in Writing, her previous publications include a chapbook, Between Nectar & Eternity (Red Dragon-fly Press, 2013), and pieces in Baltimore Review, Fourth River, Hippocampus, Terrain, and Poetry, among others. Naomi has also appeared on NPR and been honored by a Best of the Net Finalist and two Pushcart nominations.

Jan 13, 20251h 7m

S5 Ep 7Jianna Heuer on Rediscovering and Sustaining Her Writer Self

TW’s Neva Talladen talks to author Jianna Heuer about blown-up whale parts, opening a bookstore during the 2020 pandemic, and writing a revenge novel as catharsis. Her creative nonfiction and personal essays have been published in The Inquisitive Eater, Midsummer Dream House, Across The Margin, and other literary journals. Her flash non-fiction has appeared in two books, Fast Funny Women and Fast Fierce Women.

Dec 20, 202449 min
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