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S2025 Ep 10The Final : It's A Scalextric TV & Film Slot Car Knockout

32 models, 30 match-ups and now it's the final, the chance for glory, immortality and the possibility (limited) for a Special Scalextric Celebration Talking Utter Slot Box Set of the winner. Maybe.It's the Bluesmobile from The Blues Brothers movie up against the three tiny Mini Coopers from the original (and best) Italian Job movie. Two highly quotable comedy classics, America vs Britain.May the best slot car win! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 31, 202529 min

S2025 Ep 9Semi-finals : It's A Scalextric TV & Film Slot Car Knockout

The semis!32 entries whittled down to just four, all just two wins away from taking the title.It's America vs Britain in both semis and the models all represent TV shows or Films from over 40 years ago. Semi-final 1 : Inspector Morse Jaguar vs The Blues Bros BluesmobileSemi-final 2 : Starsky & Hutch Ford Torino vs The Italian Job Mini CoopersWho will make it to the final, are the staff down in Margate at Scalextric HQ running a sweepstake, will Nick do his Aretha Franklin impersonation?All will be answered in this episode of my favourite slot car podcast. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 26, 202520 min

S2025 Ep 8Quarter-finals : It's A Scalextric TV & Film Slot Car Knockout

We're into the Quarter-finals, just tow wins away from the title.In this episode there's talk of the TV & Film models we'd like to see made, reminiscences of Britain's first multiplex in Milton Keynes and 'Shagger' Morse who beat off Mr Bean (!)The grandfather of all TV & Film slot cars, the 1967 James Bond Aston Martin, is still in the running, but can it;s rarity see off the modern detail of the challengers?And of course there's four key head-to-heads:Quarter-final 1 : John Wick Plymouth Barracuda.Quarter-final 2 : The Blues Bros Bluesmobile vs Back To The Future DeLoreanQuarter-final 3 : Starsky & Hutch Ford Torino vs James Bond Aston Martin DB4 GTQuarter-final 4 : Captain Scarlet SPV vs The Italian Job Mini CoopersRemember, there are no easy games at this level. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 22, 202533 min

S2025 Ep 7Round 2, Games 5-8 : It's a Scalextric TV & Film Slot Car Knockout

Second set of Round 2 match-ups to decide which models make the quarter-finals. There's Bond vs Batman, a trans-Atlantic buddy bust-up and more.In this show:5. The Professionals Capri vs Starsky & Hutch Torino6. James Bond Aston Martin DB4 vs Batmobile 1960s7. Dukes of Hazzard General Lee vs Captain Scarlet SPV8. Mad Max Ford Falcon vs Italian Job MinisSeconds out! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 18, 202519 min

S2025 Ep 6Round 2, Games 1-4 : It's a Scalextric TV & Film Slot Car Knockout

We're down to the last 16 and now the prize is a place in the quarter-finals, but which is good enough?Can Bond recover from the first round defeats, will the Minis see off another huge challenger?It's shaping up to be predominantly a US vs UK fight.In this show:1. Ternco MG Metro 6R4 John Wick Barracuda2. Inspector Morse Jaguar vs Mr Bean's Mini3. The Blues Bros Bluesmobile vs James Bond Aston Martin DB54. Back To The Future DeLorean vs 1989 BatmobileLights, camera, action! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 15, 202521 min

S2025 Ep 5Round 1, Games 13-16 : It's A Scalextric TV & Film Slot Car Knockout

The fun never stops!It's the last four games of Round 1 of our massive competition to find the best telly-telly-bum-kum box (I dunno, ask Nick, it's his saying).13. Dukes of Hazzard 'General Lee' vs Star Wars Speeder Bike14. Batmobile '22 vs Captain Scarlet's SPV15. Mad Max Ford Falcon vs Batman Tumbler16. Thunderbird's FAB1 vs The Italian Job Mini Cooper Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 11, 202527 min

S2025 Ep 4Round 1, Games 9-12 : It's A Scalextric TV & Film Slot Car Knockout

Half way through Round 1 and now we have match ups 9-12.There's Bond, Batman and a load of Fords looking to progress through tot he next round:9. Professionals Capris vs Harry Potter Ford Anglia10. Starsky & Hutch Ford Torino vs James Bond Aston Martin V811. James Bond Aston Martin DB4 vs Lightning McQueen12. Vanishing Point Dodge Challenger vs Batmobile (1960s)Can Bond do better in these matches? Is Harry potter wizard enough to see off Bodie and Doyle? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 8, 202530 min

S2025 Ep 3Round 1, Games 5-8 : It's A Scalextric TV & Film Slot Car Knockout

Grab your snacks and something soft to throw at the screen as we head into the second batch of four Round 1 match ups. It is the B group on many ways with Bond, Blues and Bats:5. The Blues Bros' Bluesmobile vs James Bond lotus Esprit16. James Bond Aston Martin DB5 vs Shaun The Sheep Land Rover7. Doc's DeLorean from Back To The Future vs Fast & Furious Toyota Supra8. 1989 Batmobile vs K.I.T.T. Knight Rider. Are any just lambs to the slaughter? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 4, 202529 min

S2025 Ep 2Round 1, Games 1-4 : It's A Scalextric TV & Film Slot Car Knockout

Lights, camera, ACTION!The games have begun and here we have the first four match-ups:1. James Bond Aston Martin DBS vs Ternco MG Metro 6R42. John Wick Plymouth Barracuda vs Captain Scarlet Spectrum Patrol Car3. Inspector Morse Jaguar vs Only Fools And Horses Reliant Van4. James Bond AMC Hornet vs Mr Bean MiniTalk about diversity. As Nick says, there's no easy games at this level. Which stars of the screen do you think are heading for an early return to a shelf? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Dec 1, 202526 min

S2025 Ep 1The Draw : It's A Scalextric TV & Film Slot Car Knockout

Pitching 32 of the best TV & Film related slot cars head to head in a knockout competition to find the greatest of them all. Which is the best: Batman or James Bond...Mr Bean on a Mini or an Ewok riding a Speeder Bike? Anything is possible as the stars of the screen fight it out in the slot.This episode, The Draw, sees the 32 entries drawn from a hat, a literal hat, to determine the rivals for the first round of It's A Scalextric TV & Film Slot Car Knockout. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 28, 202525 min

S2025 Ep 14Nick's Collection

Centre piece of this episode is a guided tour of Nick's collection, the Tv & Film cars he's created plus the competition cars which have a connection with his writing and PR career.Plus we look at the new releases, the NSR hypercar, the latest sci-fi release from Scalextric and the car everyone seems to be going mad for - the racing Volvo Estate/Shooting Break. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 22, 202546 min

S2025 Ep 13Home Racing Harry

Harry Wise: the man with the most famous hands in slotting. Harry's Home Racing World site and videos about slot cars and the fun we can have with them are part of a nearly 30 year commitment he's made to bringing the often isolated members of the slot car world together. From pinning notices up in the local grocery store - the 'Amish Internet' - to utilising web forums and social media, Harry's voice has been the friendly invitation to enjoy the hobby for many. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 9, 202542 min

S2025 Ep 12Stars of Slot & Screen

Inspired by the recent release of TV & Film themed cars we thought we'd talk about... TV & Film cars. Professionals Capris, Captain Scarlet Patrol Cars, but also scratch built and modified cars so there's mention of such unlikely motors as Princess 1800s, Austin Allegros and even a Porsche 956 which appeared in Miami Vice. Unlikely names prop up too, including Derek Bell (he was in Miami Vice, apparently) and Fatima Blush. We end with some debate on the best and worst motor racing films leading to a rare occasion when Le Mans and Bobby Deerfield get mentioned in the same breath. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 2, 202539 min

S2025 Ep 11Scratchbuilding & F1

From being snowed in on an Italian mountain - via a kitchen table or two - to seeing a dream come true, this episode is like no other. For one thing there's no rallying. Well, I mentioned it once, but I think I got away with it.Andy Rowland was given a Scalextric Grand Prix set as a child, but unlike the rest of us he turned that fun into a passion for modelling and engineering which eventually brought to us all the range of 1970s F1 cars by Policar.There's tales of JPS Lotus, Mansell and Senna, Vanwalls and even a Trojan. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sep 24, 202539 min

S2025 Ep 10Talking Wankels

Smooth and sexy or bolted and chunky?Not descriptions of men behind the mics, rather the two body styles available for the new RevoSlot Mazda RX-7s about which we talk in adoring terms.The real RX-7 had a Wankel engine so who better to chat about it than the man sometimes known as 'Wankel Ickx'.Old gifts bring a reminder of the joy of printed material and we learn the secret sauce that makes Wankel's tyre truing unique.So settle back, stroke your Mazda and enjoy the show. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sep 11, 202537 min

S2025 Ep 9Here Be Dragons!

In this episode of old men talking rubbish about toy cars...Fly announce fire-breathing dragon slot cars. Maybe. Tuning: the antidote to fun. Is time spent tinkering less fun than time on the track? (Yes).You wait for thirty years then three Ford Sierras come along at once and we're happy about that.Enjoy! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sep 4, 202532 min

S2025 Ep 8California Dreamin'

Marco Carvalho is well know as the face of Electric Dreams, the world's biggest slot car store. He's interviewed all the key players, but now we turn the spotlight on him to find out about the man behind the (electric) dream.A racer, builder, but probably more than anything a communicator, we get into his early days racing and building in Brazil, coming to California and having a vision for slot car retailing now being brought to life at Electric Dreams.Link to Electric Dreams YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@slotcarstore Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Aug 25, 202539 min

S2025 Ep 7Team Player

All slot car clubs have their own character - and characters. On the south coast of England, in an 18th Century barn, Worthing HO Racing is a club with a difference. Started in 2010 with local government support, the aim was to involve the surrounding community, initially racing HO cars. Fifteen years later, last month alone, the club welcomed 60 people to its events, many coming for the first time. They still race HO, but also 1/32 digital and the latest addition is slot rally.What makes the club so successful?I spoke to co-founder Andy Player to find out.WHO Racing Facebook : https://www.facebook.com/WHORacing/WHO Racing YouTube : https://www.youtube.com/user/WorthingHORacingWHO Racing Club Section on SlotRacer : https://slotracer.online/community/showthread.php?tid=71 Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Aug 18, 202541 min

S2025 Ep 6Tales Of The Unexpected

Slot cars we'd love to have, but that are never going to be made. We are living through a golden age of new slot car variety and choice, but are there still real life cars which are just too obscure to ever be made as ready-to-run slot car models?We reveal our Top 3 wishful thinking cars and why we think they are just too oddball to ever justify one of the slot car makers tooling up for production.Ever the optimists, we also suggest who the best maker would be to make each impossible dream come true. It's the hope that kills you. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Aug 11, 202527 min

S2025 Ep 5Mr Scalextric

We talk about him and his company's products often so it is great to hear from the man himself: Simon Owen, Scalextric Head of Brand.We might think it is the best job in the slotting world, but does the guy responsible for the Scalextric range agree?We discuss his work, the origins of his love of cars and what was the reaction internally when he suggested making a Volvo Estate. He'll also share what's caught his eye from other slot car brands recently. You might be surprised.We even get to hear what are the best selling Scalextric cars for 2025 so far. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Aug 4, 202539 min

S2025 Ep 424 Hour Party People

Most of us are daunted by just the thought of doing a 24 hour slot car race, so imagine having to commentate on one, live, broadcast to the world.Ian & Doug, otherwise known as Magnetic Racing and Think Scalextric Events, added the 24 hour stint to their race reporting repertoire in Italy in June 2025. This week they are flying to LA to be the voice of the Slot.it Nationals from Electric Dreams for the third yer in a row.They took time out from packing to have a chat about how they came to find themselves as the voice of slot car racing.Link to Magnetic Racing: https://magneticracing.com/Link to Electric Dreams & Slot.It Nationals : https://www.electricdreams.com/nationals/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jul 28, 202534 min

S2025 Ep 3Too Much Of A Good Thing

RevoSlot models are unarguably a good thing, but if they always come in threes is that a problem? Great when it is a new mould, but down the line does anyone want three fantasy liveries, do shops want to risk being stuck with stock?In a transatlantic, multi-time zone chat (it was past 1.00am in the UK, twilight in the US) Scott is joined by Mr Slot Car News himself, Dave Kennedy, to talk utter slot. Grab yourself a cold one and listen in. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jul 15, 202539 min

S2025 Ep 2Live From The Sitootery

Nick's back! We learn what he's been up to and what his latest slot car build is and how it faired in its first club race.Scott has finally restored an overgrown Fly Porsche 911 and he's playing with himself again (Group C this time). Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jul 8, 202536 min

S2025 Ep 1Slotfest Reunion

Back by popular demand... well a few kind folk* at UK Slot Festival asked if I was doing any more - with special guest appearance by Pedro. There's talk of what caught our eye at the Slotfest, including the marvelously accessible Scalextric stand where Scott was caught on camera fondling Captain Scarlet's SPV, the slot.it BMW M3 prototype which Pedro insists he didn't break and the controversial, at least for the rivet counters, MRSlotcar classics.Nick's away on his new job: more on that in future episodes. He'll be back soon.*Sorry, I'm useless at remembering names. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 21, 202539 min

Ep 62It's News Jim, But Not As We Know It.

We get so excited by news of the new Skoda by Scaleauto we give credit to AvantSlot. What can we say, we're old and no one promised accuracy. Sorry Ivan.In other news, Fly are testing the limits of collecting madness by selling a car with no tyres, Nick is very excited by the possibilities of Scalextric's surprise new wheel hubs and Scott would rather have a slice of Sloter cheese than the new NSR Lola. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nov 21, 202428 min

Ep 61We're back!

Season Two? A continuation model? Sadly inevitable?. However you look at it, the return of (possibly) the world's favourite slot car podcast is reason to give thanks to the Gods of Slot.What have we been doing? Why Is Nick half the man he was? Has Scott managed to resist buying EVERY Renault 5 Turbos Fly release? There's only one way to find out - listen! It's good to be back. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Oct 25, 202436 min

Ep 60Never Thought They'd Make Sixty

Worth the wait? You decide. We've got the Top 10 from UK Slot Festival - why do people buy those event cars? - and news from the rally slot stages of Sussex and Wales. There's movie reviews and suggestions for the next cars in Fly's 'Cars from the Movies' series. All this is less than half of 60 minutes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 5, 202426 min

Ep 60Never Thought They'd Make Sixty

Worth the wait? You decide. We've got the Top 10 from UK Slot Festival - why do people buy those event cars? - and news from the rally slot stages of Sussex and Wales. There's movie reviews and suggestions for the next cars in Fly's 'Cars from the Movies' series. All this is less than half of 60 minutes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Jun 5, 202426 min

Ep 59Wizard and Slots

Harry Potter and a new Top 10: what more can you ask of a slot car podcast?More: well, there's also talk of new tyres for old Carreras and the new slot.it Audi R8 in retro rally livery has ticked all of Scott's boxes. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

May 2, 202438 min

Ep 58Playing With Small Things

Can a 70s Scalextric Ferrari on new tyres really keep up with a Policar F1? Was the mid-90s Ferrari F40 GT a mass hallucination?Plus, Nick buys his first Policar (no, really) and Scott learns the hard way about racing digital with weather effects activated.All this plus the latest Top 10 selling slot cars from Pendle Slot Racing. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 26, 202452 min

Top Of The Slots

G'day slot pickers!It's the first, the original, the best slot car Top 10 brought to you by Talking Utter Slot and Pendle Slot Racing.Data kindly supplied by Pendle Slot Racing. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 12, 202415 min

Ep 57Discovering The Dorset Hoard

This week there's talk of honey covered Mercedes, headless drivers, a chap called Whitney Straight who ISN'T a country singer and why taking decades to build a kit might inspire a future feature. Hear also how Scott bought over 70 cars for less than the price of an Avant Slot Audi set. There's also the new Scalextric Mirage which inspired the running of previous shelf queens, the Vanquish MGs. No diffs were harmed in the ensuing lappery. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Apr 4, 202432 min

Ep 56Four Wheels Good : Six Wheels Better

Six-wheelers feature in both the racing and the fun this week as Scott gets a FABulously big pink thing and - unknowingly - cheats with a classic SCX F1.The delightful eccentricities of English slot car clubs feature and, in the absence of much new News that's caught our eye, we do note a very rich man has bought shares in Hornby. A saviour? The show rounds off with another 'Trackside Slot Story with Nick'. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 15, 202440 min

Ep 55Return of the Green Morgan

What once was lost has been found, or at least bought on eBay. Yes, the great quest (see Episode 45) to find the Green Morgan has been completed. Or has it. We hear how things went at Round 2 of Slot Rally GB and decided things will be better if all the entrants have stage names and walk on music like in darts or wrestling. Success on the stages seems to require either an SRC or ScaleAuto and to be called Graham.We also have the first of Slot Stories With Nick, cosy pod-side chats with Nick telling the story behind one of his slot,it Porsche 956/962 collection. Just 59 more to go. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 8, 202437 min

Ep 54Digital Revelations

Scott reports back from a successful foray into the world of digital racing and helps the economy by instantly splurging his tax rebate on slot cars. Nick is doing his best to not mention certain rumours in F1. He did it once, but we don't; think anyone noticed. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Mar 1, 202439 min

S2024 Ep 162024 World Cup of Slot - Final

2024 World cup of Slot - Final : Slot.it/Policar vs ScalextricAnd here we have it, the big one, the final of the World Cup of Slot. The two finalists have seen off 14 other top slot car companies to reach this final hurdle. Who will be crowned World cup winners for 2024? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 20, 202422 min

S2024 Ep 152024 World Cup of Slot - Road To The Final

2024 World Cup of Slot : Road To The FinalIt's the build up to the big match between Slot,it/Policar and Scalextric, the World Cup Final, but how did we get to this point?Nick and Scott look back over the preceding 14 'matches' and trace the path each finalist took to see if there's any hints about form in the final itself. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 19, 202412 min

S2024 Ep 142024 World Cup of Slot - Semi-Final 2

2024 World Cup of Slot - Semi-Final 2 : Scalextric vs SidewaysWith a place in the World Cup Final at stake, granddaddy of it all, Scalextric, meet nouveaux arrivants, Sideways. England and France fought The Hundred Years War, but this slotcar match up has to be decided in less than 15 minutes. Who will go through? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 14, 202412 min

S2024 Ep 132024 World Cup of Slot - Semi-Final 1

2024 World Cup of Slot - Semi-Final 1: Slot.it/Policar vs SCXThe first of the semi-finals pits Italy vs Spain, Slot/Policar against SCX (Scalextric in Spain).Both make cars, both make track, both have digital systems and both have huge numbers of fans, but who can win through to eth final of the 2024 World Cup of Slot? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 13, 202414 min

S2024 Ep 122024 World Cup of Slot - Quarter Final 4

2024 World Cup of Slot - Quarter Final 4 : SRC vs SidewaysEmerging from unquestionably the toughest corner of the draw, these two offer high performance and high quality cars. On the surface there's little to choose between them so can we avoid another match decided on penalties? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 9, 202413 min

S2024 Ep 112024 World Cup of Slot - Quarter Final 3

2024 World Cup of Slot - Quarter Final 3 ; SCX vs FlyTwo titans of the slot world, both with long and proud histories. One famous for looks over performance, but is that enough to win over the resurgent giant. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 9, 202411 min

S2024 Ep 102024 World Cup of Slot - Quarter Final 2

2024 World Cup of Slot - Quarter Final 2 : Avant Slot vs ScalextricDavid vs Goliath, Spain vs Britain, boutique vs full service manufacturer. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 9, 202411 min

S2024 Ep 92024 World Cup of Slot - Quarter Final 1

2024 World Cup of Slot - Quarter Final 1 : Slot.it/Policar vs CarreraJust four 'teams' left with a chance of becoming World Cup winners. This first Quarter Final pits two giants of the slot world together, both make great cars and excellent track systems as well as cars, but which will win? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 9, 202412 min

S2024 Ep 82024 World Cup of Slot - Match 8

2024 World Cup of Slot - Match 8 : Sideways vs ScaleautoThe final and arguably most hotly contested match of the first round. Both make high performing cars, but which is the best overall. Not to give anything away, but this one goes to penalties. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 6, 202412 min

S2024 Ep 72024 World Cup of Slot - Match 7

2024 World Cup of Slot - Match 7  : Le Mans Miniatures vs Fly Car Model. Le Mans Miniatures vs Fly. A clash of two companies with somewhat similar appeal : very nice models which place looks of performance, but which take very different paths to their objective. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 6, 20245 min

S2024 Ep 62024 World Cup of Slot - Match 6

2024 World Cup of Slot - Match 6 : Scalextric vs TeamlsotTime for the 'home side' to enter the fray. It's Scalextric, the oldest and most famous company, up against a small but growing Spanish brand which specialises in rally cars. A David vs Goliath, if you will. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 6, 202410 min

S2024 Ep 52024 World Cup of Slot - Match 5

2024 World Cup of Slot - Match 5 : NSR vs CarreraTwo giants of the slot world, but with very different philosophies. One out and out racers, the other makers of robust, highly detailed and accurate models and one of the best track systems. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 6, 202411 min

S2024 Ep 42024 World Cup of Slot - Match 4

2024 World Cup of Slot - Match 4 : SRC vs RevoSlotA clash of what on the surface seem evenly matched 'teams': both famous for good looking, fast cars, but which will win? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 5, 20249 min

S2024 Ep 32024 World Cup of Slot - Match 3

2024 World Cup of Slot - Match 3 : SCX vs MRSlotcarMatch 3 brings together a giant of slotcars, SCX (Scalextric in Spain) and another of the small, specialist makers, MRSlotcar.ca. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 5, 20249 min

S2024 Ep 22024 World Cup of Slot - Match 2

2024 World Cup of Slots - Match 2 : Avant Slot vs Thunder SlotMatch 2 brings Avant Slot head-to-head with Thunder Slot. One quirky and often fast, the other small and very fast, but who is best overall? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Feb 5, 202410 min