Talking About Birds: A St. Louis Cardinals Podcast

Nate & Ben discuss ben's upcoming Pokemon car race, visiting Busch Stadium for Blogger/Podcaster day, hugging other podcasters, eating too many hot dogs, burning hands with hot cheese, asking Mo "great questions," Mo's eventual obvious retirement, pitching labs, the return of Willson, Miles Mikolas being good, what to do with Steven Matz, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben discuss Ben's first 5k, trying to water sky, the upcoming Bloggers + Podcasters day at Busch Stadium, the loss of Nootbaar, Gio DudeWaffle's return, Jose Fermin's role, Pallante the starter, a very strong offensive May, the sadness that is Arenado, Masyn Winn on the rise, the dominant bullpen and it's path to being not dominant, solving the 5th starter, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben are joined by Dan Szymborski (Fangraphs, ZIPs) to discuss cats, Arby's, video games, the creation of ZIPs, adjusting projections as the game evolves, how teams utilize internal metrics vs what the rest of the world uses, the long term problems with the Cardinals and the overall issue with how baseball is set up, more video games, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate is abroad for this weeks show and friend of the show Kyle Reis joins Ben! They discuss the rough start to the season, Sonny Gray and the death of the machismo baseball player, what the Cardinals are doing well and not so well when it comes to developing pitchers. They also chat about rising and falling prospects in the system, why the future may be brighter than we thought and if cereal is a soup? #breakfestsoupTalking About Birds is listener support on Patreon, support the show and join our private discord server at: https://www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds

Nate & Ben discuss starting a feud like Drake and Kendrick, going to a White Sox game, Star Wars & Star Trek, the confusing situation the Cardinals find themselves in, the potential resurgence of the offense, remembering its against the the Angels, how bad the Angels are, bring back Jordan Walker, Dylan Carlson vs Siani, Matt Carpenter the Professional Hitter, how quickly the rotation became bad again, the Cardinals dwindling playoff odds, considering the future, the trade deadline, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben discuss Cinco de Mayo, the millennial event of the year, the injury to Willson Contreras, Herrera and Pages as backups, Gallegos (dudewaffles) a d the mysterious case of should impingements, Roycroft, Mycroft Holmes, Dylan Carlson's return, the terrible series against the White Sox, the return of mCarp, Matz and his replacement, fixing the home run problem on both sides, why we can still have hope, the series against the Brewers and the series against the Angels, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben discuss the fishing trip, falling out of boats, BEES, SO MANY BEES, the Cardinals mediocre April, the rise of Alec Burleson (CHIEF BEEF), Goldy and his always bad April, the Cardinals overall lack of power and how to fix it, the killer trio at the end of the bullpen, Dylan Carlson's imminent return, the starting pitching and possible upcoming collapse, regressing to the mean, the upcoming series against the White Sox, the upcoming series against the Mets, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben discuss 2024 Coachella, the upcoming fishing tournament, going to Busch Stadium, Paul Goldschmidt's characteristically slow start, Jordan Walker's demotion, Zach Thompson, Jose Fermin, Andre Pallante and the maybe just starting to crumble rotation, Nick Robertson and the probably really good bullpen despite John King, the complete lack of power, the Cardinals maybe starting to show some power, the upcoming series against the Mets, the upcoming series against the Tigers, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben discuss the Cardinal 5k, Dune 2, RIP WHITEY HERZOG, the return of NOOOOT, Sonny Gray's dominance, Nolan Arenado waking up, Masyn Winn ascending, the two catcher combo, Lance Lynn, Tommy Edman's return, saying no to taxpayer funded ballparks, the upcoming series against the Brewers, the series against the DBacks, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben discuss going to live baseball games, hot dogs, the upcoming Cardinals 5k, sleeping through a 5k, Sonny Gray's debut, the overall pretty okay Cardinal starting pitching, the overall pretty good bullpen, the young guys stepping up, the old guys not looking great, the ghost of Tommy Edman's eventual return, platelet rich injections, the Diamondbacks, the Athletics, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben discuss the START OF THE 2024 SEASON!!!!!, Chip Caray's terrible voice, the sweaty see through jerseys, the fucking Dodgers, feeling good about the start, Mike The Turtle Shildt, why we are happy with the pitching, why we aren't happy with the pitching, VSII's comfort at the bigs, Donovan's continued surge, and much more!

Nate & Ben celebrate opening day!, discuss opening day traditions, a trip to driveline, going for the hole, the sad reality of Dylan Carlson, the joy of VSII, Jordan Walker's big scary body, Michael Siani and the no good very bad bench, or maybe the bench isn't bad, Zach Thompson's rise to the rotation, the confusing case of Matt Liberatore, a breakdown of the series against the Dodgers, the series against the Padres, the fact that we have series to talk about, and much more!

Nate is back! and joins Ben to discuss Mediterranean food, horse, A League of Their Own, the Oliver Marmol extension, Lars Nootbaar's ribs, Keynan Middleton's forearm, Sonny Gray's hamstring, Miles Mikolas, a breakdown of Stuff+ and why you can still be excited about Cardinal pitching, a preview of the 2024 Cubs, league news, and much more!Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Ben is joined by the PodFather, Daniel Shoptaw, while Nate is off in Europe. They discuss Dune, the various health related problems the Cardinals are facing and the Dylan Cease trade. Shoulda, coulda the Cardinals matched the haul the Padres sent to the White Sox? Will Nate make it back from his trip? Robo umps are coming!Ben and Daniel also break down the Brewers, catch up on league news and play a game!Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben discuss IT Bands, speaking at college classes, Albert Pujols as a manager, Sonny Gray's injury what it means for the rotation, feeling hyped about some of the rotation options, Tommy Edman's return and Carlson's role on the team, Steven Matz, Lance Lynn, Brandon Crawford, an overview of the highly talented and highly volatile Reds, and much more!Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben discuss the terrible Oakland A's, Mo' saving the off-season with the greatest FA signing of all time, where Brandon Crawford fits in, Winn's development, Sonny Gray as opening day starter, Nolan Arenado, who is standing out in early Spring, the Cardinals vs LHP, NL Central Preview focused on the Pittsburgh Pirates, Cody Bellinger, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben discuss the start of our 3rd year as a podcast!, Cardinal baseball being on TV THIS WEEKEND, the end of a very interesting offseason, the battle for the rotation and bullpen, the deathball, who we are most excited about, extension candidates, Tommy Edman's injury, Matt Carpenter's role on the team, Anthony Rendon and loving the sport, our annual Free Agent draft, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben discuss surviving the ski trip, doing the splits, the START OF SPRING TRAINING!!!, Sonny Gray, the potential six man rotation, who makes the bullpen cut, one last shot at a rotation addition, city connect jerseys, shitty jerseys, Adam Wainwright, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben discuss the upcoming ski trip, the triumphant return of Casa Bonita (Pretty House), the Keynan Middleton signing and why we really like it, the DFA'ing of Zuniga, Moises Gomez, Fangraphs & Pecota standings projections, Ivan Herrera, Masyn Winn, the Corbin Burnes trade, the Athletics Ownership vs a Teacher's Union, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben discuss going to a hockey game, falling on ice, the fact that SPRING TRAINING STARTS THIS MONTH, Alfsonso Rivas and Moises Gomez, Josh James, the deathball, deadball, and multiball!, non-roster invitees to spring training, Xavier Scruggs and his interview with Oli Marmol, finding the love for Marmol and the Cardinals again, Alec Burleson, beefy boys being beefy, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben are joined in this extra special episode by Kelsey Burd (@kburdtweets), Kyle Reis (@kyler416), and Daniel Shoptaw (@C70) to celebrate episode 100 of the podcast and to discuss Deadball, the return of Matt Carpenter, Tommy Edman's contract, our personal Mount Cardmores, prospects, vibes, birds, and much, much, more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben discuss Ben's birthday celebration, opening day tickets, Masyn Winn and Jordan Walker getting BIG(ger), Goldy and his extension situation, the value of bulk innings vs quality innings, the (maybe) fight between Contreras and Flaherty, the international signing period and more big beefy boys, the Baseball America Prospect List, Tommy Edman and his wrist, arbitration, the Bally Sports situation, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben discuss Victor Scott 2's rap career, STL drinkin' beer, greedy owners (again, always), the hiring of Chaim Bloom and why it is probably the most important signing this offseason (and maybe of the decade), the Richie Palacios trade, Andrew Kittredge, Tommy Two Bags Edman and the case of the hurt wrist, Imanaga, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben discuss New Year's Eve, David Ortiz and the hilariously bad gender reveal, food based gender reveals, the 2024 Cardinals ZIPs projections and why we should be hyped about 2024, the ZIPs projections and why 2024 may be another rough year, our thoughts on lineup construction, and news from around the league. Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben are together, in the same room! with shiny lights! to discuss Ozzie Smith, Adam Wainwright's country foray, our new years plans, the Yamamoto signing and why the Cardinals were never really in it, Matsui and why it's good the Cardinals didn't beat the Padres deal, some quick Steamer observations, news from around the league, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben discuss Matt Carpenter's time as a Cardinal, Yuki Matsui, Josh Hader and how to improve the bullpen, Yamamoto, why the Cardinals should sign Blake Snell?, the rise of Victor Scott 2, Jeffery Bezos, Nick Robertson, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben discuss favorite Christmas movies, the hype machine around Ohtani and its absurdity, Tyler O'Neill's career as a Cardinal and the trade, Nick Robertson and his place with the team, why the Cardinals should absolutely obviously and immediately extend Goldschmidt, rotation depth, Yamamoto, the Cardinals bench, Ohtani's contract and why its both totally fine and also terrible, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben are joined by Daniel Shoptaw (@C70) to discuss Christmas decorations, Mo's confidence, Yadi's return, the new rotation, Tyler O'Neill's trade value and potential, Ryan Fernandez and his slider, Phil Maton and the rumor mill, the draft lottery :(, the very cold stove, and much more!

Nate & Ben discuss the Japanese GQ, baseball memorabilia, famous horses, Sonny Gray!, hurray Sonny Gray!, where the Cardinals go next, finding another ace and balancing upside, still chasing Yamamoto, our Hall of Fame picks, cheaters who win, Jason Heyward, and much much more!

Nate & Ben discuss Thanksgiving favorites, the return of Dirty "The Clutch" Daniel Descalso, Joe McEwing, the ros and the cons of the Lance Lynn & Kyle Gibson signings, where the Cardinals go next with pitching (sign Brandon Woodruff), the Ivan Herrera era, the Noot factor, the return of Wilking, Mike Schildt, the stupid sexy Braves, and much more!

Nate & Ben discuss the winter meetings (lol gross), awards week, a reliever winning the mvp and cy young, Riley O'Brien (sorry riley), the Rule 5 Draft, Wilking, Bedell, lesser discussed FA options, Alek Manoah, the manager shuffle, the trouble with Las Vegas, and much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. Support the show and join our private discord server at: www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds.

Nate & Ben discuss Mario vs Spider-Man, Jordan Montgomery and Derrick Goold's article, trusting articles and the insanity of the off-season, Jared Young, Chaim Bloom, augmenting the front office, trade candidates, rotation vs closer help, the World Series, Craig Counsell and the lolBrewers and ohnoCubs, and much more!

Nate & Ben discuss halloween, our favorite candy, Waino in the broadcast booth, player personalities, Tommy Edman's gold glove candidacy, the recent DFA's and future DFA's, a potential SP contract or 3, fixing the bullpen that maybe doesn't need fixing, the World Series, and much more!

Nate & Ben talk about grocery store sushi, missing jury duty, getting arrested, Adolis Garcia, the pitch clock in the playoffs, Mike Shildt, the now almost confirmed return of Yadi, the upcoming winter meetings, the World Series, the great Championship series, GM and POBO/CBO/Po'Boy/BOGO movements, and much more!

Nate & Ben discuss the STL CITY Western Conference victory, the apparently impending Yadi reunion, how the Cardinals need to do a lot more than just re-hire Yadi, the coaching staff, Goldy and why they should extend him NOW, early AFL results, the future is Victor Scott II, Aaron Nola's small but important fix, Tyler O'Neills trade value, the league championship series, and notes from around the league.

Nate & Ben discuss the upcoming spooky season, hitting golf balls on the moon, Coors Light, the cancelled end of season presser, how the Cardinals should handle the pitching staff, who to DFA, the playoffs, and much more!

Nate & Ben discuss Nate's trip to Budapest, running a half marathon, the final record of 2023, how the Cardinals faired against the NL Central, bad defense and how to fix it, Adam Wainwright and the front office's mismanagement of him, mid-season predictions, the playoffs, and much more!

Ben is joined by Kyle Reis (@kyler416) to discuss their feelings about the 2023 season, a break down of players received by the Cardinals at the trade deadline, we check in on the farm and much more!

Nate & Ben discuss an upcoming trip and a half-marathon, Waino getting to 200 wins (hurray!), the 2024 organizational changes, how Mozeliak can fix this, alllll the injuries, and much more!

Nate & Ben talk about the Lemons race, what is Grimace, a deep apology, Liberatore's role in the bullpen and beyond, Jordan Walker's defense, Nolan Gorman's evolution against LHP, the last 16 games and what to look for, the available pitching coming over from the NPB, the NL Central, and much more!

Nate & Ben discuss terrible car races, Jordan Walker's breakout, Masyn Winn's future, the return of Ryan Helsley, Matthew Liberatore's return to the bullpen, Dakota Hudson and his magic show, Taylor Motter the forever Cardinal, Tommy Edman's role in 2024, load management, and much more!

Nate & Ben discuss still enjoying the 2023 Cardinal season, Adam Wainwright (again!), the now dead offense. not prioritizing winning, Jordan Walker's future, blowing up mailboxes (BAD, ILLEGAL), blowing up construction cones (GOOD, FUN) the near return of Ryan Helsley (!!!), the return of Gorman!, Tekoah Roby's debut, Mozeliak being good at something, Moises Gomez, Chip Caray and Brad Thompson, Edmonds, the Paul DeJong interview and whether Oli/Mo are bad, THE REVOLUTION, and much more!

Nate & Ben discuss doofus Pete Alonso, Masyn Winn's promotion and what to realistically expect, Drew Rom, the Palacio bros, Saggase, Roby, alllll the recent injuries, the dynamic duo of Contreras and Knizner, how to handle catching in 2024, and much more!

Nate & Ben discuss the Pirates long running defeat at the hands of the Cardinals, Adam Wainwright and the no good terrible very bad year, Mozeliak's upcoming "aggressive" approach to pitching, Dylan Carlson, Luken Baker, Casey Lawrence, the series against the Mets, and the upcoming series against the Pirates!

On this very special episode, coming to you LIVE from the San Francisco Airport, Nate & Ben discuss Masyn Winn, all our birds on other bird teams (and the Rangers), Willson Contreras, the new look starting rotation, Lars Nootbaar is once again Juan Soto'ing, Drew Rom and some other recently acquired players, on field brawls, the shitty Orioles ownership, and much more!

Nate & Ben discuss ((on a slightly laggy connection)) Nate's first golf trip in 25 years, the trade deadline from a broader perspective, each individual trade and why it was both a great deadline and also kind of underwhelming, the new look roster and where each piece could fit, the NL Centrals overall lack of ambition, and much more!

Nate & Ben are back together and ready to talk about Ben's time in Canada, the wave (again), Scott Rolen, Jordan Hicks and his possible extension, the Trade Deadline and the many-many-many possibilities, Willson Contreras' on the trade block, the rest of the NL Central's approach to the Trade Deadline, and much more!

Nate is joined by Kelsey Burd (@kburdtweets) to discuss her trip to the London series, the wave, Dylan Carlson, Marmol's leadership, the upcoming trade deadline, the current hot streak, preparing for 2024, and much more!

Nate & Ben discuss fishing in Canada, the Home Run Derby, the All Star Game, well dressed Arenado, what the Cardinals should do now that they are officially "sellers" (NOT REBUILDERS!!!!), the 2023 Draft & Chase Davis, the comically bad outfield defense, some bold predictions for the second half, why do we even call it the second half, and much more!

Nate & Ben talk the sad reality of the Cardinals 2023 playoff chances, the upcoming trade deadline and what it means to sell, Adam Wainwright, the return of Ivan Herrera and other roster moves, Arenado's All Star bid, the home run derby, the collapsing bullpen, and much much more! Talking About Birds is listener supported on Patreon. www.patreon.com/talkingaboutbirds