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The US power grid is under mounting strain from aging infrastructure, slow interconnections and regional bottlenecks, while demand, complexity and variability are on the rise. Building a future-ready grid will require major investment, smarter infrastructure and policy reform. So just what can be done to expand transmission capabilities to meet oncoming energy challenges in the US? At the BloombergNEF Summit Houston, Ethan Zindler, BloombergNEF’s head of country and policy research, moderated a panel “Revolutionizing the Grid.” This episode brings listeners that panel, which featured Page Crahan, general manager of Tapestry at X, Alphabet; Michael Skelly, co-founder and chief executive officer of Grid United; Frank Kreikebaum, senior vice president and chief of engineering at Smart Wires; and Rina Harris, vice president of strategic business growth and engagement at CenterPoint Energy. To learn more about BNEF’s Summits taking place around the world and to see recordings of BNEF Talks at previous Summits, head to https://about.bnef.com/events/type/summit/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Copper is a cornerstone of the world’s infrastructure. From transportation to the energy transition to massive new data centers, demand for the metal is everywhere, and supply is feeling the crunch. Copper demand is forecast to outstrip supply by 6 million metric tons a year come 2035, but at the same time, market economics are limiting exploration and some mines are even closing up shop. So who is going to win, and who may lose out, in the global battle for a limited critical resource? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees talks with Rosemary Katz, a senior associate from BNEF’s metals and mining team, about her note “Tracking Copper in Data Centers 2025-2035: Supply Crunch.” Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Tracking Copper in Data Centers 2025-2035: Supply Crunch - https://www.bnef.com/insights/37209See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Despite the gloomy headlines in the US, global investment into clean energy technologies is still rising. The first half 2025 saw a record $386 billion flowing towards clean tech, a 10% rise from the same period last year. Yet despite the continuing rise in investment numbers, the devil lies in the details. For instance, solar was propelled by small-scale installations, while utility-scale investment waned. And the regional investment picture is fragmented, with declines in investment figures in the US possibly indicating capital reallocation to other markets. On today’s show, Dana Perkins talks with the BloombergNEF’s Head of Clean Energy, Meredith Annex, about her team’s note “2H 2025 Renewable Energy Investment Tracker: Record High.” Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: 2H 2025 Renewable Energy Investment Tracker: Record High - https://www.bnef.com/insights/37317See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Artificial intelligence needs power, and lots of it. If all the data centers in the current US pipeline get built, they could suck up the electricity from 100 nuclear power plants and still be left wanting more. One obvious solution for supplying this massive demand is natural gas, which is plentiful and cheap in the Lower 48, and now has the enthusiastic backing of the Trump administration. But with a global shortage of turbines and lucrative liquefied natural gas contracts competing for supply, gas generation faces an obstacle course rather than a smooth road to running the country’s data centers. On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees talks with BloombergNEF gas market analyst, Henry Eaton, about his recent note “Fueling the Cloud: Data Centers’ Bond With US Gas.” Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Fueling the Cloud: Data Centers’ Bond With US Gas - https://www.bnef.com/insights/36619See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The One Big Beautiful Bill Act has reshaped the US clean energy landscape. Designed to scale back major US decarbonization programs while promoting fossil fuels, the OBBBA has severely restricted the rollout of solar, wind and energy storage projects while also taking direct aim at electric vehicles. The impact of the new law has been dramatic, but could it have been worse? And what does the whiplash between presidential administrations mean for the feasibility of future investments in the US? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees talks with BloombergNEF’s head of country and policy research, Ethan Zindler, who also previously worked as climate counselor to former US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen. Joining them is senior policy associate for North America Derrick Flakoll, and together they discuss recent BNEF notes including “One Big Bill, Many Impacts for US Energy Economy” and “New US Clean Energy Tax Rules Could Have Been Worse.” Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Trump Signals Deeper Cuts to Clean-Tech Factory Subsidies - https://www.bnef.com/insights/37297 New US Clean Energy Tax Rules Could Have Been Worse: React - https://www.bnef.com/analyst-reactions/t11xthgp9vd100 Trump Slams the Brakes on US Wind and Solar Growth - https://www.bnef.com/insights/37073 One Big Bill, Many Impacts for US Energy Economy - https://www.bnef.com/insights/37051See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Right now, there are technologies that can pull carbon dioxide directly out of the air. That could be a critical tool in a world where climate change is rampant. Yet to fulfill this carbon removal potential, the sky-high costs of direct air capture need to fall. Today, capturing a metric ton of carbon dioxide with DAC costs around $900 on average, presenting a huge challenge to scaling the technology when there are more affordable alternatives available. So what is the cost outlook for direct air capture, and which technology type offers the most financially viable means of growth? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by Brenna Casey, an associate on BNEF’s sustainable materials team, to discuss findings from her report “Out of Thin Air: The Cost of Scaling Direct Air Capture”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Out of Thin Air: The Cost of Scaling Direct Air Capture - https://www.bnef.com/insights/37093See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Trump administration’s ‘Liberation Day’ tariffs are reshaping global trade flows. With the US currently renegotiating its trade positions with traditional partners and rivals alike, the tariffs’ true impact is yet to be fully understood. Even the handful of new deals that have been struck offer little guidance, as they break from the legally binding forms that international trade deals traditionally take and their contents remain largely undisclosed. Assessing the geopolitical landscape has thus become critical for making business decisions. On today’s show, Dana Perkins is joined by Jennifer Welch, chief analyst of Bloomberg’s geoeconomics team, and Antoine Vagneur-Jones, BloombergNEF’s head of trade and supply chains, to delve into the decisions currently shaping global trade. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: US Energy Trade and Tariff Indicators: June 23-July 28 - https://www.bnef.com/insights/37117 Trump Tariffs Are Thrashing the US Energy Storage Market - https://www.bnef.com/insights/36483 Solar and Battery Makers Stung by Latest Trump Tariffs - https://www.bnef.com/analyst-reactions/t0h9c7gpqq6j00 To find out more about Bloomberg's geoeconomics research, email us at [email protected] omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Cutting industrial emissions has long been one of the most intractable hurdles in the energy transition. That may finally be changing, as a new generation of smart technologies not only paves the way for abating industrial emissions but promises to do so at scale. Four companies emerged victorious in this year’s BloombergNEF Pioneers challenge dedicated to decarbonizing heavy and light industry: AtmosZero, Circ, Rondo and Everdye. On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by guest host Benjamin Kafri, co-chair of BNEF Pioneers, to interview the leaders of these companies. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Climate-Tech Companies to Watch in 2025: BNEF Pioneers - https://www.bnef.com/insights/36311See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

With air travel on the rise, the need for cleaner aviation is growing. Sustainable aviation fuel (SAF) presents the simplest means of decarbonization, but it’s expensive. Aircraft that burn less fuel, engines powered by hydrogen, and even electric air taxis are all potential means of decarbonizing air travel, but none are the silver bullet. So what will it take to green the aviation sector, and what will it cost consumers? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by Nikolas Soulopoulos and Takehiro Kawahara, BloombergNEF’s head of commercial transport and aviation specialist respectively, to discuss findings from the report “Aviation Decarbonization Outlook 1H 2025”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Aviation Decarbonization Outlook 1H 2025 - https://www.bnef.com/insights/36893See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Agriculture is responsible for around a third of global emissions. Yet investment in low-carbon means of growing food has stalled. Venture capital and private equity funding has declined by a massive 76% since 2021, ag-tech firms have declared bankruptcy, and large companies are backtracking on their green ambitions. So are there any “good news” stories about the food of the future? And in the current geopolitical climate, can the agriculture sector green itself while maintaining growth? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by co-host Kobad Bhavnagri to talk with Alexander Liddington, a BloombergNEF food and agriculture analyst, about findings from the inaugural “Food and Agriculture Transition Indicators” research note. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Food and Agriculture Transition Indicators - https://www.bnef.com/insights/36969See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

When the Iberian electrical grid blacked out earlier this year, there were real-life consequences. Widespread disruption of transportation, communication networks and essential services left Spain and Portugal temporarily paralyzed. Following the event, two separate reports were released by the Spanish government and the grid operator, Red Electrica de Espana, where both agreed that voltage fluctuations were the root cause of the outage. However, they then went on to present conflicting opinions as to why authorities were unable to bring voltage under control. So why did this voltage fluctuation occur in the first place, and what actions have been taken to protect the Iberian electricity grid from future incidents? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by Eva Gonzalez Isla, a senior associate from BNEF’s grids team, to discuss findings from her research note “Iberia Blackout: Blame Before Facts”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Spain Clears €750 Million for Grid After 16-Hour Blackout: React - https://www.bnef.com/analyst-reactions/sz4qsadwlu6800 Iberia Blackout: Blame Before Facts - https://www.bnef.com/insights/36887 Spain Blackout Accounts Pin Blame But Do Little for Grid: React - https://www.bnef.com/analyst-reactions/sy3km9dwlu6800See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This week, we explore how the legislation’s attack on renewable energy may push up electricity bills and damage US competitiveness in AI. The tax credits in President Joe Biden’s sprawling Inflation Reduction Act were introduced to help the US keep up with rising electricity demand by making clean power sources cheaper. But now the big bill has changed all that, and an executive order issued days after its passage suggests his war on renewables isn’t over yet. Joining host Stephanie Flanders to discuss this dramatic turn of events are guests Ethan Zindler, head of country and policy research at BloombergNEF and previously climate counselor to US Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen, and Bloomberg lobbying and influence reporter Emily Birnbaum.  For more episodes of Trumponomics, subscribe on Apple or Spotify. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Just how green are the investment portfolios of credit, equity and multi-asset funds? Building on its existing suite of banking and investment ratios, BloombergNEF has introduced the Energy Supply Fund-Enabled Capex Ratio, which assesses how much a given investment portfolio is contributing to low-carbon capital expenditures for every dollar directed to fossil fuels. Worldwide, low-carbon energy gets just 48 cents for every fossil-fuel dollar, but the regional picture when it comes to funding this new “industrial revolution” is far more complex. On today’s show, Dana Perkins is joined by BNEF finance and investment associate Ryan Loughead to discuss how investors are funding the low-carbon industrial revolution and the inaugural “Energy Supply Fund-Enabled Capex Ratio” report. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Energy Supply Fund Enabled Capex Ratio - https://www.bnef.com/insights/36751See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Everyone is talking about how much energy data centers and artificial intelligence will gobble up in the coming years. Yet AI is just one part of a vast, complex and constantly evolving energy landscape. So how will the AI revolution fit into a world where electric vehicles are displacing liquid road fuels, renewable-power projects are stuck in grid queues and big tech is investing in nuclear? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by Ian Berryman, BloombergNEF’s head of energy systems modeling, to discuss findings from this year’s edition of the New Energy Outlook. For the first time ever, BNEF’s flagship report has modeled the impact of data centers on the transition to a low-carbon economy. But how much of the global power supply will AI really require? And will additional clean energy sources be built to meet that added demand, or could the extra grid strain simply extend the lifespan of fossil-fuel generation? Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: New Energy Outlook 2025 - https://www.bnef.com/insights/36179 Executive Summary - https://about.bnef.com/insights/clean-energy/new-energy-outlook/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sales of electric vehicles are set for another record-breaking year. Thanks to falling battery costs and a rise in affordable models, plug-in EVs will represent a quarter of global passenger car sales in 2025. And while a rollback in government support has taken a bite out of EV uptake in the US, other countries are more than making up for this setback. Chinese automakers have been growing their footprint overseas, leading to strong growth in emerging markets. In China itself, organic consumer demand will lead to 50% of new vehicle sales this year coming with a plug, far surpassing government targets, and strong domestic sales of range-extended EVs have led them to become the fastest-growing drivetrain in the world. On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by Colin McKerracher, BloombergNEF’s Head of Clean Transport, to discuss findings from this year’s Electric Vehicle Outlook. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Electric Vehicle Outlook 2025 - https://www.bnef.com/flagships/ev-outlookSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The Trump administration has made no bones about its desire to revitalize the US’s nuclear power industry. With four new executive orders hot off the president’s desk, nuclear is being treated as a silver bullet, capable of meeting AI power demand while shoring up the country’s energy independence. The US is also looking to counter China and Russia, which in recent years have led the way in nuclear technology rollout both at home and abroad. But can this new policy push elicit the market response required to rebuild the US’s nuclear energy industrial base? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by BloombergNEF’s lead nuclear analyst, Chris Gadomski, to discuss findings from his note “Trump Pushes Nuclear But Market Pull Is Uncertain.” Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Trump Pushes Nuclear But Market Pull Is Uncertain - https://www.bnef.com/insights/36697See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Solar module prices have been cratering in recent years, dragged down by global oversupply. Yet while this glut of photovoltaics has hammered manufacturer profits, it has also allowed emerging economies that are hungry for affordable energy to get into the solar game, and demand growth is still strong this year. So what lies ahead for this notoriously tricky market, could energy storage help mitigate electricity price spikes, and what impact could the Trump administration’s tariffs have on domestic US solar manufacturing? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by Jenny Chase, a BloombergNEF solar specialist, to discuss findings from her note “2Q 2025 Global PV Market Outlook.” Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: 2Q 2025 Global PV Market Outlook - https://www.bnef.com/insights/36693See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The oil and gas sector invested $33.4 billion in the energy transition last year. Yet while this figure suggests that decarbonization is a serious consideration for some fossil-fuel majors, just seven companies accounted for 85% of the sector’s low-carbon spend in 2024, and only 13 of 41 companies assessed raised low-carbon investment as a share of capex. So what are the different strategies oil and gas companies are pursuing when it comes to the energy transition? And why would a fossil-fuel company invest in clean tech in the first place? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by Claudio Lubis, an associate from BNEF’s downstream oil and chemicals team, to discuss findings from his note “Oil and Gas Energy Transition 2024: Clean Capex Jumps.” Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transitions to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Oil and Gas Energy Transition 2024: Clean Capex Jumps - https://www.bnef.com/insights/36589See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Europe is making quick work of executing large industrial decarbonization infrastructure projects. The continent now boasts large-scale facilities for carbon capture, storage and transit in the UK, Denmark, the Netherlands, Italy and Norway. But how have policymakers managed to incentivize and facilitate the installation of these massive projects, and what’s required to push the sector even further? At the 2025 BloombergNEF Summit Munich, Martin Tengler, BNEF’s head of hydrogen research, moderated a panel titled “Getting Industrial Decarbonization Megaprojects on Their Feet: Evaluating Early Success.” This episode brings listeners that panel, which featured Kristin Myskja, director general and head of climate, industry and technology for the Norwegian Ministry of Energy; Anders Hoffman, deputy permanent secretary for the Danish Ministry for Climate, Energy and Utilities; Dick Benschop, chair of the board at Mission Possible Partnership; and Stefanie Hiesinger, head of unit for low-carbon solutions for Directorate-General for Climate Action (DG CLIMA) at the European Commission. To learn more about BNEF’s Summits taking place around the world and to see recordings of BNEF Talks at previous Summits, head to https://about.bnef.com/summit/.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Extreme weather has always meant extreme risks for businesses and investors. Yet climate change has varied the calculus, and many businesses are facing new, potentially existential risks as the world and the energy transition heat up. As such, central banks and financial supervisors have begun conducting climate risk stress tests, to ensure these institutions are capable of mitigating the potential impacts of a changing climate. But what do these tests entail, which markets have been the most proactive in conducting them, and what exactly is “climate risk” anyway? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by Tifenn Brandily, BloombergNEF’s head of transition risk and alignment, and special guest Edo Schets, Bloomberg’s head of climate, nature and regulatory financial solutions, to discuss findings from the note “Climate Risk Stress Test Review”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transitions to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Climate Risk Stress Test Review - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35901 TRACT - https://www.bnef.com/insights/34869 Worksheet Sample Library for Physical Risk - WSL PHYSICALRISK<GO> Worksheet Sample Library for Water - WSL WATER<GO>See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A United Nations-led aviation decarbonization scheme could offer some respite for carbon credit markets mired in controversy. With the Carbon Offsetting and Reduction Scheme for International Aviation, also known as CORSIA, the UN is looking to offer legitimacy for carbon credits, to help tackle emissions at scale. The scheme has a global footprint, with a roster of 126 markets set to expand to 135 in 2027, but with the US and EU threatening to pull their involvement, just how impactful can CORSIA really be? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by Layla Khanfar, an associate on BNEF’s environmental markets team, to discuss her recent note “Aviation Credits Market Outlook: CORSIA Gets Its Wings”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Aviation Credits Market Outlook: CORSIA Gets Its Wings - https://www.bnef.com/insights/36451See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The rise of AI data centers is reshaping the outlook for US power markets. Forecast to account for nearly a 10th of all US electricity demand by 2035, data centers are gobbling up power more quickly than electric vehicles, hydrogen or any other demand class this decade. A profound concentration of capital has allowed for this rapid expansion, which is now exerting influence over energy infrastructure and planning investment. But what forms do data centers take, and what are the factors and strategies that influence associated decision making? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by BloombergNEF’s Head of US Power, Helen Kou, and Senior Associate Nathalie Limandibhratha to discuss their recent note “US Data Center Market Outlook: The Age of AI”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: US Data Center Market Outlook: The Age of AI - https://www.bnef.com/insights/36281See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Clean energy investment in the US grew $50 billion last year. With interest rates easing and inflation in decline, the market appears to be well positioned to meet skyrocketing power demand from sources like artificial intelligence and data centers. Yet it’s not all smooth sailing: price cannibalization, curtailment risks, tariffs and clean energy policy shifts from the new Trump administration all present challenges for investors. So what business models and strategies are required to keep the momentum going? At the 2025 BloombergNEF Summit New York, Pol Lezcano, a senior associate from BNEF’s solar team, moderated a panel titled “Sustaining Momentum in US Renewable Investments.” This episode brings listeners that panel, which featured Andrew Gongaware, managing director at BMO Capital Markets; Matt Ransweiler, senior vice president for finance and capital markets at Invenergy; Miguel Pena, managing director and head of project finance for the Americas at BBVA; and Corinne Still, partner at Apollo Global Management. To learn more about BNEF’s Summits taking place around the world and to see recordings of BNEF Talks at previous Summits, head to https://about.bnef.com/summit/.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

One hundred days of the second Trump presidency have passed, and the impact has already been significant. While running for president, Donald Trump put the Inflation Reduction Act, ESG investing and clean energy policy in his crosshairs, only to have been held up once in office by courts, members of Congress and some states. The “Liberation Day” tariffs created turmoil on global markets, and his administration has again had to pause and row back some levies, while others are being renegotiated. To guide us through these first 100 days of the second Trump term, Tom is joined on today’s episode by Derrick Flakoll, BloombergNEF senior policy associate for North America, to discuss recent BNEF research notes including “Trump’s Investment Rules Hold Back Made-in-US Clean Tech” and “‘Reciprocal’ Tariffs Spell Chaos for Clean Energy Markets: React”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Trump’s Investment Rules Hold Back Made-in-US Clean Tech - https://www.bnef.com/insights/36067 Reciprocal’ Tariffs Spell Chaos for Clean Energy Markets: React - https://www.bnef.com/analyst-reactions/su5u2hdwx2ps00See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Oil demand growth outlooks have taken a heavy hit in recent weeks. In the wake of the Trump administration’s “Liberation Day” tariff announcements, US business and consumer sentiment tanked and global GDP expectations were trimmed, with knock-on effects for oil demand. On the other side of the globe, China’s demand for gasoline is falling fast, with domestic policy stimulating an already-buoyant electric vehicle sector. Yet these blows to demand come at a time when OPEC+ and other major oil producing nations are looking to raise production levels. So what does this mean for the global oil sector and the price of a barrel of oil? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by Wayne Tan, BloombergNEF’s head of oil markets research, to discuss the recent note “Oil Markets Monthly: Tariffs, OPEC+ Hike, Structural Shift”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Oil Markets Monthly: Tariffs, OPEC+ Hike, Structural Shift - https://www.bnef.com/insights/36245See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Brazil, the host nation of this year’s COP30, looks set to be at the center of most major carbon market developments in 2025. The country is working hard to develop its domestic carbon market, and could quickly leapfrog others in terms of scale and impact, with the ramping up of its nature-based carbon supply for international trading. At the 2025 BloombergNEF Forum Sao Paulo, Kyle Harrison, BNEF’s Head of Environmental Markets, moderated a panel titled “Brazil’s Role in the Evolution of Global Carbon Markets.” This episode brings listeners that panel, which featured Thiago Picolo, chief executive officer at re.green; Fabiana Alves, chief executive officer at Rabobank; Fabio Galindo, chief executive officer at Future Climate; and Angela Pinhati, chief sustainability officer at Natura. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to BNEF Forums and Summits: Link to BNEF's Regional Forums page - https://bbgevent.app/bloombergnef-forum-2024/#/ Link to BNEF's Flagship Summits page - https://about.bnef.com/summit/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The European Union’s battery manufacturing sector has been struggling to stay competitive. In the face of supply chain concerns, technological barriers and record-low prices fueled by the global oversupply of battery packs, existing policy has proved too light to support local producers. Yet with the introduction of the EU’s new Action Plan, further policy support could be on its way, and Chinese battery giants are announcing production facilities in the bloc. Elsewhere, BYD has introduced a brand-new battery that could revolutionize the sector, with promises of rapid charging speeds and extended range for passenger EVs. On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by BloombergNEF energy storage analyst Andy Leach and trade and supply analyst Matthew Hales to discuss their recent notes “Plan to Save EU Battery Making Marks Protectionist Shift” and “Chinese Battery Makers Double Down on European Factories”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Plan to Save EU Battery Making Marks Protectionist Shift - https://www.bnef.com/insights/36075 Chinese Battery Makers Double Down on European Factories - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35985See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The EU has taken an ax to its sustainable reporting regulations. While the bloc is widely considered the global leader for sustainable finance policy, this rollback could limit investors’ access to climate data and their ability to push capital towards the energy transition. With the ramping up of anti-ESG laws in the US, fears over competitiveness lie behind the softening of these EU policies. Yet just as these regions are watering down their requirements, Asia Pacific is stepping up, strengthening its own sustainable finance policies and potentially filling the Western void. On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by BloombergNEF sustainable finance analysts Maia Mesanger and Jameson McLennan to discuss their recent notes “Sustainable Finance Market Outlook 1H 2025: Back on Track” and “EU Weakens Sustainability Leadership with Rule Rollback: React”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Sustainable Finance Market Outlook 1H 2025: Back on Track - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35863?context=eyJxIjoic3VzdGFpbmFibGUgZmluYW5jZSIsImNvbnRlbnRUeXBlIjoiaW5zaWdodCIsInJlZ2lvbiI6W10sInNlY3RvciI6W10sImF1dGhvciI6W10sImluc2lnaHQtdHlwZSI6W119 EU Weakens Sustainability Leadership with Rule Rollback: React - https://www.bnef.com/analyst-reactions/ssb4jtdwlu6800See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Southeast Asia is an up-and-coming player in the energy transition. As the region’s production capacity has grown, so have its exports of key clean-power technologies. Within Southeast Asia, favorable policy has encouraged the growth of cheap renewable energy and electric vehicle adoption. Yet recent US tariffs and aid cuts have had an impact. Just how damaging have they been, and can better regional cooperation help mitigate the fallout? On today’s show, Dana Perkins is joined by Shantanu Jaiswal, BNEF’s head of India and Southeast Asia research, and analyst Felix Kosasih, to discuss some of BNEF’s recent research including “US Climate Fund Withdrawal Imperils Indonesia’s Transition” and “Southeast Asia in Short: Energy Storage, Net Zero Push”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Southeast Asia in Short: Energy Storage, Net-Zero Push - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35639 US Climate Fund Withdrawal Imperils Indonesia’s Transition - https://www.bnef.com/shorts/ssqqiot0g1kw00?context=eyJxIjoic2luZ2Fwb3JlIiwiY29udGVudFR5cGUiOiJzaG9ydCIsInJlZ2lvbiI6W10sInNlY3RvciI6W10sImF1dGhvciI6W119 Net Zero Transition: Opportunities for Vietnam - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35529?context=eyJxIjoib3Bwb3J0dW5pdGllcyBmb3IgdmlldG5hbSIsImNvbnRlbnRUeXBlIjoiaW5zaWdodCIsInJlZ2lvbiI6W10sInNlY3RvciI6W10sImF1dGhvciI6W10sImluc2lnaHQtdHlwZSI6W119 Southeast Asia and Energy: Things to Watch in 2025 - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35745?context=eyJxIjoic2hhbnRhbnUiLCJjb250ZW50VHlwZSI6Imluc2lnaHQiLCJyZWdpb24iOltdLCJzZWN0b3IiOltdLCJhdXRob3IiOltdLCJpbnNpZ2h0LXR5cGUiOltdfQ==See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

We live on an increasingly thirsty planet. Growing populations and rising demand from industry, data centers and farming have led to water stress across the globe. Even under a scenario where global warming is limited to 2C, some three billion people are projected to live in areas where water demand exceeds supply by the middle of the century. Energy-intensive desalination plants offer a solution, but what other opportunities lie in technologies that can not only increase water supply but more efficiently manage it? On today’s show, Dana Perkins is joined by Stephanie Diaz, a BNEF technology and innovation analyst, to discuss her recent research note “Tech Radar: Water Supply, Use and Treatment”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Tech Radar: Water Supply, Use and Treatment - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35987See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The cost of producing clean power has never been lower. Improving financial conditions and oversupply of key equipment drove costs to record lows in 2024. Yet while the levelized cost of electricity (LCOE) declined as a global average, different regions and technologies fell at different rates, and one key technology proved to be an outlier. On this episode, Dana Perkins is joined by Amar Vasdev, a senior associate from BNEF’s energy economics team, and Martin Tengler, BloombergNEF’s head of hydrogen research, to discuss findings from the flagship report “Levelized Cost of Electricity 2025: Record Lows”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Levelized Cost of Electricity 2025: Record Lows - https://www.bnef.com/flagships/lcoeSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Energy-hungry data centers are on the rise. Power demand driven by artificial intelligence has been met by an increase in power purchase agreements (PPAs) for low-carbon energy. Meanwhile, DeepSeek has reduced demand through more efficient computations. So what is driving decision making at tech companies that work in the AI and data center space? At the 2025 BloombergNEF Summit San Francisco, Mark Daly, BNEF’s head of technology and innovation, moderated a panel titled “Data Center Dynamics.” This episode brings listeners that panel, which featured Steven Carlini, chief advocate of data centers and AI at Schneider Electric; Will Conkling, head of data center energy for the Americas and EMEA at Google; Kleber Costa, chief commercial officer at AES Corporation; and Darwesh Singh, founder and CEO at Bolt Graphics. To learn more about BNEF’s Summits taking place around the world and to see recordings of BNEF Talks at previous Summits, head to https://about.bnef.com/summit/.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Annual investment in the energy transition has surpassed $2 trillion for the first time. Investors placed bets on renewable energy, power grids and energy storage, while buzzy emerging technologies fell out of favor. On this episode, Dana Perkins is joined by Meredith Annex, BNEF’s head of clean power, to discuss the report ‘Energy Transition Investment Trends 2025.’ Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal, on bnef.com or on the BNEF mobile app. Links to research notes from this episode: A publicly available summary report of Energy Transition Investment Trends 2025 can be found at  - https://about.bnef.com/energy-transition-investment/ BNEF subscribers can find the whole report at - https://www.bnef.com/flagships/clean-energy-investmentSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Little connects the natural world to our lives more tangibly than the weather. Weather impacts everything from food to energy production, and shifting weather patterns have the power to shift the economy. From wind droughts to heatwaves, utilities and commodities traders are seeking a better understanding of how enhanced weather modeling could help them predict the future. On today’s show, Dana Perkins is joined by BNEF weather analysts, Jess Hicks and Willa Tobin, to discuss their recent research notes “Weather and Commodities - Nine Things to Watch in 2025” and “Shifting Weather Patterns: A Black Swan for US Commodities”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Weather and Commodities - Nine Things to Watch in 2025 - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35719 Shifting Weather Patterns: A Black Swan for US Commodities - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35305See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Banks are still spending less money on low-carbon solutions than on fossil-fuel projects. At last count, the energy supply ratio for bank financing was just 0.89 cents of low-carbon spend for every $1 spent on fossil fuels. That’s an improvement over previous years, but with a ratio of 4:1 by 2030 required to meet a 1.5C climate scenario, the world is still a long way from hitting that target. On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by analyst Trina White, a member of BNEF’s sustainable finance team, to discuss the third annual Energy Supply Investment and Banking Ratios”. Together they discuss worldwide and local trends in energy financing, which banks have the highest energy financing ratios, and why the average ratio is still below 1:1 even though global clean energy investment has hit a new record and surpassed fossil-fuel financing for the first time. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Third Annual Energy Supply Investment and Banking Ratios - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35765See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Chinese wind turbine makers are expanding their global footprint at an impressive rate. Leading manufacturers like Goldwind, Envision, Mingyang and Windey are exporting their turbines at a significant discount to Western incumbents, undercutting their rivals and establishing themselves in developing economies and emerging markets. Yet while the volume of their orders has risen, significant barriers to entry remain, including low brand awareness, a limited track record outside of China and political risks that are raising red flags for buyers, lenders and insurers. So just how large is the threat these Chinese manufacturers pose to established Western companies? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by Oliver Metcalfe, BloombergNEF’s Head of Wind, to discuss the note “China Wind Turbine Export Update: Momentum Builds”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: China Wind Turbine Export Update: Momentum Builds - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35671/viewSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Over the past five years, clean energy company valuations have reached new heights. As the ESG hype cycle ends, inflated public market valuations have given way to industry fundamentals. Increasing energy demand aided by the hype around AI and data centers mean that the world needs more clean power than ever before, and project developers are requiring new sources of capital. In response, a new trend is emerging, in which public investments are shifting into private hands. On today’s show, Dana Perkins is joined by BloombergNEF Solar Specialist Pietro Radoia and Sustainable Finance Analyst Ryan Loughead to dive into the recent research note “Listed Clean Energy Firms: Moving Back Into Private Hands”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Listed Clean Energy Firms: Moving Back Into Private Hands - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35367See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Was 2024 a good or a bad year for clean energy and climate progress? Looking through one prism, we saw record global electric vehicle sales, massive clean power capacity additions, and the adoption of new energy storage technologies. Yet, if we compare these record numbers to what is actually required to achieve net zero by 2050, we find ourselves falling short. What lessons can be learned from the year gone by, and how might we apply these lessons to improve future outcomes? On today’s show, BloombergNEF’s Deputy CEO, Albert Cheung, shares his note “Five Energy Transition Lessons for 2025.” Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Five Energy Transition Lessons for 2025 - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35643See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

This could be a challenging year for natural gas. Market dynamics are in flux, and how buyers and sellers react to the changes will make the year ahead a ‘stress test’ for the fuel and how the sector positions itself for the future. On the supply front, a rapidly shifting geopolitical landscape has had a massive bearing on the trade flows of pipeline gas and LNG. In terms of demand, heat waves and extreme weather events have inverted seasonal consumption trends. So what can we expect from 2025? On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees is joined by Fauziah Marzuki, BloombergNEF’s Global Head of Gas Markets, to discuss findings from her recent report “Gas Things to Watch in 2025: Crunch Time Before Comeback”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Gas Things to Watch in 2025: Crunch Time Before Comeback - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35571/viewSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

At first glance, gold hydrogen could be a game changer. This naturally occurring molecule, which is found in reservoirs below the Earth’s surface, has the potential to be less carbon intensive and less expensive than man-made hydrogen. But all that glitters is not necessarily gold, and a myriad of factors, from possible synergies with helium extraction to ongoing technical challenges, could still tip the scales either toward or away from gold hydrogen’s economic viability. On today’s show, Dana Perkins is joined by Sami Alisawi from BNEF’s Hydrogen team and Musfika Mishi from BNEF’s Technology and Innovation team to discuss findings from their recent report “Technology Radar: Geologic Hydrogen”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Technology Radar: Geologic Hydrogen - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35101See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Japan’s power market is creating a stir. Having faced natural disasters, global energy crises and ever more extreme periods of weather, the world’s third-largest liberalized power market has had to contend with some almighty challenges in recent years, and yet it has still piqued the interest of foreign investors. The long process of restarting Japan’s nuclear fleet, completely shuttered after the Fukushima disaster, has dragged on, and with little available land, utility-scale renewables have traditionally struggled to gain a foothold. To fill the energy void, the resource-poor nation has had to import coal, gas and oil to fuel its power plants. Yet the arrival of energy-intensive data centers and semiconductor manufacturing plants mean power demand is once again on the rise, and with it new opportunities for energy installations. On today’s show, Tom is joined by two analysts from BNEF’s Global Power Markets Team, Mariko O’Neil and Yumi Kim, to discuss key findings from the report “Japan Power Market Outlook 2H 2024: Tailwinds Ahead”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Japan Power Market Outlook 2H 2024: Tailwinds Ahead - https://www.bnef.com/insights/34981  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The boom in energy-hungry data centers in the US has led to a revival of interest in nuclear power. Small modular reactors, or SMRs, are often held up as the way forward, but the technology remains in development, which has led some big tech firms – or ‘hyperscalers’ – to explore other pathways for using nuclear power. One alternative is restarting some of the 11 nuclear facilities that have been shut in the US in the last 15 years, an option made all the more attractive given the regulatory hurdles, cost concerns and schedule overruns that tend to plague new nuclear projects. On today’s show, Tom is joined by Chris Gadomski, BloombergNEF’s lead nuclear analyst, to discuss key findings from his report “Hyperscalers’ Energy Appetite Boosts Nuclear Prospects”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Hyperscalers' Energy Appetite Boosts Nuclear Prospects - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35223See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

The world is focused on net zero. Yet some companies, like Australian mining giant Fortescue, have set their sights higher, and are now aiming for ‘real zero’. On today’s show, we bring you an interview from the recent BNEF Summit Shanghai, where Fortescue Founder and Executive Chairman Andrew Forrest sat down with Leonard Quong, BNEF’s Head of Australia Research, to talk about green hydrogen, green iron ore, and why real zero is good for people, the planet and the bottom line. Today’s episode was recorded live at BNEF Summit Shanghai. To learn more about our Summits and to listen to more interviews, please visit https://about.bnef.com/summit/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Emerging markets have big plans when it comes to the energy transition. Today, 95% of developing economies have a renewable energy target in place, and many of them are seeing massive growth in solar and other renewable power technologies. Yet this clean power revolution won’t come cheap. While EMDEs attracted more than $100 billion for clean energy development last year, that’s a drop in the bucket of what it’ll take to reach net zero, and many markets are racing to implement the policy and infrastructure needed to attract many billions more. On today’s show, BloombergNEF researchers Sofia Maia and Ana Paula Fonseca Teixeira present the newest edition of Climatescope, a public BNEF resource that evaluates and ranks emerging markets’ readiness to utilize energy transition investment. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Climatescope 2024 - www.global-climatescope.org See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Climate-tech funding is falling precipitously. During the third quarter of 2024, worldwide investment in the sector reached just $10.3 billion, a far cry from the $22.6 billion raised in the third quarter of 2023 and the $40.9 billion seen in 3Q 2022. These dramatic declines have been led in part by manufacturing overcapacity in China, where a collapse in market funding has allowed India to supersede China for the first time in BloombergNEF’s climate-tech rankings. With protectionism on the rise, questions have also arisen about how tariffs will impact equity funding moving forward, but where some see barriers, others see opportunities. On today’s show, Dana is joined by Mark Daly, BloombergNEF’s Head of Technology and Innovation, to discuss key findings from the recent report “Investment Radar 3Q 2024: Funding Drop Again”. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Investment Radar 3Q 2024: Funding Drop Again - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35203/viewSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

“It looks like coal weather today,” is an unlikely forecast, but it shouldn’t be. Coal production and consumption are linked to weather, and the return of a La Niña weather cycle has the potential to extend the lifespan of coal power assets and influence fuel switching. While peak coal demand is close, near-term drivers point to stagnation rather than a rapid decline. Developed economies are shutting thermal power assets at scale, but China is responsible for 56% of global coal consumption and continues to import and stockpile coal in vast quantities. On today’s show, Dana is joined by Fauziah Marzuki, BloombergNEF’s Global Head of Gas Markets, alongside Yumi Kim, Power Markets Associate, to discuss key findings from their recent report Coal Outlook: Hot and Cold to 2050. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Coal Outlook: Hot and Cold to 2050 - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35205See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Wind is key to tripling global clean energy capacity by 2030, but in recent years both onshore and offshore additions have been blowing cold. The landscape improves as we look ahead to 2030, when BloombergNEF expects annual installations of wind to have risen by a massive 70%. China, which is currently responsible for over a half of all global wind additions, is leading the charge. But now that its massive turbine manufacturing base is looking outside its borders, the picture for equipment exports is about to be shaken up. On today’s show, Tom Rowlands-Rees speaks with BNEF’s head of Wind Research, Oliver Metcalfe, about key findings from three recent reports: Unlocking Investment to Triple Renewables by 2030, 3Q 2024 Wind Turbine Order Dataset: Volume Surges, and Floating Offshore Wind: Big Potential But Big Price Tag. Together they discuss what it’ll take for wind to grow at the pace required to meet net-zero goals, the threat to western turbine manufacturers posed by rising Chinese exports, and the impact floating wind could have on the offshore market. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: Unlocking Investment to Triple Renewables by 2030 - https://www.bnef.com/insights/34887/view 3Q 2024 Wind Turbine Order Dataset: Volume Surges - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35179/view Floating Offshore Wind: Big Potential But Big Price Tag - https://www.bnef.com/insights/34913See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

“The best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago. The second best time is now.” This proverb is just as apt if you swap out “trees” for “grid investment.” Some $326 billion flowed into the world’s power grids in 2023, up 7% from the year before. Yet while investment may be increasing overall, only a few markets align with a net-zero pathway. On today's show, co-hosts Dana Perkins and Tom Rowlands-Rees are joined by Felicia Aminoff from BNEF’s Grids and Utilities team. They discuss the growing power demand from new data centers, strategies for protecting the grid from extreme weather events, and how grid authorities are addressing a backlog of renewable energy projects waiting for a connection. This episode draws upon BNEF research found in the 2024 Power Grid Investment Outlook and the New Energy Outlook 2024: Grids. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: 2024 Power Grid Investment Outlook - https://www.bnef.com/insights/34703/view New Energy Outlook 2024: Grids - https://www.bnef.com/insights/35211See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Tariffs and subsidies loom large in the energy transition. The US Inflation Reduction Act, or IRA, has been of global importance, changing trade relationships and causing some governments to rethink their domestic policies. The European Union responded by introducing the Net-Zero Industry Act (NZIA), although it has fewer subsidies and trade barriers than its transatlantic counterpart. On today’s show, Dana speaks with Antoine Vagneur-Jones and Matthew Hales from BNEF’s Trade and Supply Chains team. As they discuss key findings from the report US Clean-Tech Industrial Policy Leaves EU Behind – For Now, they look at the risks the IRA faces in the upcoming US election, the relative effectiveness of US and EU tariffs, and whether western markets can realistically expect to challenge Chinese manufacturers on cost competitiveness. Complementary BNEF research on the trends driving the transition to a lower-carbon economy can be found at BNEF<GO> on the Bloomberg Terminal or on bnef.com Links to research notes from this episode: US-Clean Tech Industrial Policy Leaves EU Behind - For Now - https://www.bnef.com/insights/34863See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Heavy transport is at a crossroads. There are many possible paths for decarbonizing aviation, maritime shipping and long-haul trucking, including sustainable aviation fuel (SAF), ammonia, methanol and synthetic fuels. Now that companies are working to secure feedstocks, governments are writing clean-fuel policies, and investors are looking for new fuels to back, will these sectors coalesce around a single low-carbon pathway? Or will a cornucopia of options be the way of the future? On today’s episode, Colin McKerracher, BloombergNEF’s Head of Transport and Energy Storage, moderates a discussion at the BNEF Summit London on the future of clean fuels in heavy transport. He is joined by panelists Freya Burton, Chief Sustainability Officer at LanzaTech; Chris Johnson, Chief Commercial Officer at C2X; and Lara Naqushbandi, Chief Executive Officer at ETFuels. Together, they discuss which clean fuels are seeing the greatest uptake, what they’d most like to see from government policy, and how to stimulate investor activity across the sector at large. Today’s episode was recorded live at BNEF's London Summit. To learn more about our Summits and to listen to more interviews, please visit https://about.bnef.com/summit/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.