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Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast

The pinnacle of infotainment! Crazy stuff you didn’t know about the greatest movies and music of the 80’s, 90’s, and beyond. Hilarity ensues as a research professor and a pop culture savant are pitted against each other in a debate to determine what...

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Show overview

Surely You Can't Be Serious Podcast has been publishing since 2019, and across the 7 years since has built a catalogue of 395 episodes, alongside 46 trailers or bonus episodes. That works out to roughly 320 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a weekly cadence, with the show now in its 7th season.

Episodes typically run thirty-five to sixty minutes — most land between 40 min and 1h 4m — though episode length varies meaningfully from one episode to the next. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-language TV & Film show.

The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 3 months ago, with 13 episodes already out so far this year. The busiest year was 2024, with 92 episodes published. Published by Surely You Can't Be Serious PC.

Episodes
395
Running
2019–2026 · 7y
Median length
50 min
Cadence
Weekly

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The pinnacle of infotainment! Crazy stuff you didn’t know about the greatest movies and music of the 80’s, 90’s, and beyond. Hilarity ensues as a research professor and a pop culture savant are pitted against each other in a debate to determine what entertainment icons of film, music, and games are the best of the best of Generation X. https://www.thesurelypodcast.com/

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S7 Ep 12Van Halen "5150" (1986): Track by Track!

Jason and Dee are back with another deep-dive episode of the Surely You Can’t Be Serious podcast, and this time they’re tackling one of the most pivotal albums in rock history — Van Halen’s 5150.Track by track, the guys break down every song on the album, from the explosive opener “Good Enough” to the soaring anthem “Dreams,” uncovering the stories behind the scenes, the studio innovations inside Eddie’s 5150 studio, and the creative chemistry that defined this new era of the band.But this isn’t just an album review — it’s a turning point.Jason and Dee dig into the arrival of Sammy Hagar, exploring how his vocal style, songwriting, and personality reshaped Van Halen’s sound. Was this a natural evolution or a complete reinvention? How did the shift toward keyboards, melody, and polished production change the band’s identity? And how did 5150 fit into the larger pop culture landscape of 1986, where MTV, arena rock, and radio hits ruled the world?Finally, the episode builds to the ultimate showdown:5150 vs. 1984.With the Roth era closing and the Hagar era beginning, Jason and Dee finish their long-awaited comparison between these two iconic albums to answer the question every Van Halen fan has debated for decades:Which album is truly the best?Strap in — this one’s got big riffs, bigger hooks, and a final judgment you won’t want to miss.

Mar 31, 20261h 0m

S7 Ep 11Van Halen "1984" (1984): Track by Track!

This week on the Surely You Can’t Be Serious Podcast, Jason and Dee plug into one of the biggest albums of the decade — 1984 by Van Halen.From the opening synth blast to the final notes, the guys break down every track and every iconic MTV video — unpacking the stories behind “Jump,” “Panama,” “Hot for Teacher,” and the deep cuts that made this record more than just a hit factory. They dive into the bold decision to lean into keyboards, the risks that paid off, and how Eddie’s newly built home studio, 5150, gave him the creative freedom to reshape the band’s sound.But this isn’t just the story of a blockbuster album. It’s also the story of a band at a crossroads. As 1984 climbed the charts, tensions inside the group were rising — creative differences, control issues, and big personalities pulling in different directions. Jason and Dee explore how the very freedom that fueled the album may have also widened the cracks that would soon lead to a seismic lineup change.And the debate doesn’t end here. Next week, the guys will square off 1984 against the first album with new frontman Sammy Hagar, 5150, in what promises to be one of their biggest matchups yet.Was 1984 the band’s creative peak? Or was the next era just getting started? Listen in and get ready for the showdown.Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/surelypodcastFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@surelypodcastCheck out our new merch store: https://surely-you-cant-be-serious-merch.myshopify.com/

Mar 24, 20261h 10m

S7 Ep 10Top 5 Songs of 1986

Jason and Dee take on what should be a simple task: ranking their Top 5 songs of 1986. Of course, there’s a twist. Thanks to past episodes and the upcoming podcast calendar, huge chunks of the year are completely off-limits—no cuts from albums they’ve already covered, and nothing from what’s coming next. That means saying goodbye to obvious giants and digging deep into the bench to find songs that still define the year without breaking the rules.The result? A list that’s surprising, debatable, and very on-brand for the Surely You Can’t Be Serious Podcast. Along the way, the guys trade memories of what 1986 felt like in real time—what was on TV, what was in theaters, and what they were doing when these songs were soundtracking everyday life. They also toss in two honorable mentions that narrowly missed the cut, because some tracks are just too good to ignore.No repeats. No previews. Just a creative, constraint-heavy love letter to one of the most loaded years in pop culture—and a ranking guaranteed to spark arguments. 🎧📻

Mar 17, 20261h 6m

S7 Ep 9Rush "Moving Pictures" (1981): Track by Track!

Jason and Dee roll out the red carpet for one of the most important rock albums of all time as they’re joined by Rush super fans Brad Moore and Tim Epp to celebrate the 45th anniversary of Moving Pictures. Together, they dive deep into the stories behind every classic track—from radio staples to prog-rock masterpieces—breaking down the lyrics, musicianship, and moments that helped propel Rush from cult heroes to arena-filling legends. Along the way, the conversation traces the band’s unlikely rise, creative risks, and why this album became the perfect balance of complexity and accessibility. And then comes the big moment: after weeks of discussion, Jason and Dee finally render their final judgment in the ultimate showdown—Moving Pictures vs. REO Speedwagon’s Hi Infidelity. Prog precision or heartland hooks? The verdict is in. 🎸🎧Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@surelypodcastSupport us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/surelypodcast

Mar 10, 202659 min

S7 Ep 8REO Speedwagon "Hi Infidelity" (1980): Track by Track!

Jason and Dee fire up the jukebox for one of the biggest albums of the MTV era as they welcome special guest Doug Gray, noted REO Speedwagon expert, to break down 1981’s chart-dominating blockbuster Hi Infidelity. Track by track, the trio digs into the stories behind every song—from the heartbreak anthems to the arena-ready rockers—while tracing REO Speedwagon’s long road from Midwest bar band to overnight superstars. Along the way, they unpack band history, lineup changes, behind-the-scenes studio moments, and why this album connected with everyone at exactly the right time. But this episode is only half the battle: Hi Infidelity now heads into a heavyweight showdown against Rush’s Moving Pictures. Jason and Dee will render their final judgment next week—so consider this the evidence phase before the verdict drops. 🎸📀Follow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@surelypodcastSupport us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/surelypodcast

Mar 3, 202654 min

S7 Ep 7Behind the scenes with the Surely Podcast

What really goes on behind the microphone? In this special crossover episode, Jeff Johnson steps in from the A Film Bypodcast to turn the tables on Jason and Dee, asking the questions listeners have always wondered about.How did the show first get started? Have they ever regretted a final matchup decision? Which episode result surprised them the most — and which one truly “moved the needle” for the podcast? Jeff digs even deeper, challenging each host to reveal the secret dream matchup they still hope to bring to the show someday.It’s a relaxed, funny, and revealing conversation as Jeff, Jason, and Dee pull back the curtain and share stories, debates, and a few behind-the-scenes moments you’ve never heard before. If you’ve ever wondered how the magic happens, this is the episode you don’t want to miss.

Feb 24, 202657 min

S7 Ep 6Level 5: Defender! (1981) - The Game That Flipped Space Invaders Upside Down

Defender! revolutionized arcade gaming in 1981 with its sideways-scrolling chaos and button-overload controls. In our series finale, we rank all five legendary 1981 games and reveal how we'd spend our last five quarters: Donkey Kong, Ms. Pac-Man, Galaga, Frogger, or Defender? The ultimate showdown of the greatest arcade year ever!

Feb 17, 202620 min

S7 Ep 5Level 4: Ms. Pac-Man (1981) - College Kids vs. Gaming Giants

College students took on a video game empire—and won. Then they did the impossible: they improved the greatest game ever made. Hear how Ms. Pac-Man became the queen of 1981 arcades, outsmarted the ghost AI, and still looks amazing over 40 years later. The untold story of the rebellion that created gaming's most beloved female icon.

Feb 10, 202617 min

S7 Ep 4Level 3: Frogger (1981) - The Untold Story Behind the Arcade Classic

One young woman's courage changed video game history forever. Discover the secret origin of Frogger, explore every way to die (there are many!), hear the iconic music's story, and learn about a record-breaking high score that still amazes. This 1981 arcade legend has more surprises than you think. Why did the frog cross the road? Find out!

Feb 3, 202621 min

S7 Ep 3Level 2: Galaga (1981) - How It Beat Space Invaders at Its Own Game

Galaga took everything Space Invaders started, added Galaxian's colors and sounds, and created a 1981 masterpiece. Discover behind-the-scenes secrets of this arcade legend, insider development stories, and why the Challenging Stage became iconic. Don't miss the pro tip: never shoot your own captured ship! The ultimate deep dive into one of 1981's greatest arcade games.

Jan 27, 202618 min

S7 Ep 2Level 1: Donkey Kong (1981) - The Popeye Game That Changed Nintendo Forever

Donkey Kong almost starred Popeye, Olive Oyl, and Bluto. Learn the shocking origin story behind Nintendo's 1981 breakthrough hit: the near-fatal lawsuit, how Mario and Donkey Kong got their names, and why their lawyer became immortalized in gaming history. This is the untold story of the arcade classic that launched a gaming empire and defined 1981 as the golden year of video games.

Jan 20, 202624 min

S7 Ep 1Level 0: The History of Video Games Before 1981 - Pong to Pac-Man

Why was 1981 the greatest year in arcade gaming history? Before Jason and Dee dive into Donkey Kong, Ms. Pac-Man, Galaga, Frogger, and Defender, discover the revolutionary games that paved the way. From Pong's simplicity to Space Invaders' invasion and the "Puck Man" controversy, this prequel episode explores the arcade legends that changed gaming forever. Grab your quarters—the high score challenge starts here!

Jan 13, 202621 min

S6 Ep 47"The Breakfast Club" (1985) vs. "St. Elmo's fire" (1985): Part 2

The debate comes to a head. In Episode 2 of 2, Jason and Dee of the Surely You Can’t Be Serious podcast finish their head-to-head breakdown of the iconic 1985 films The Breakfast Club and St. Elmo’s Fire. This time, the focus shifts to the cast of St. Elmo’s Fire and the lasting legacy of its ensemble as full-fledged Brat Pack icons. For fun, Dee takes a sharper angle by calling out each character’s fatal flaw, while Jason counters with an alternate, more generous interpretation — finding the redeeming qualities hiding beneath the self-absorption, ambition, and chaos. With the character debate settled, the guys zoom out and deliver their final verdict, answering the big question they’ve been circling all along: which of these two 1985 classics truly stands the test of time? Is it the intimate honesty of detention, or the messy post-college reality of adulthood? Nostalgia, analysis, and judgment collide as Jason and Dee crown a winner and close the book on one of the great 80s movie matchups.Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/surelypodcastFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@surelypodcastCheck out our new merch store: https://surely-you-cant-be-serious-merch.myshopify.com/

Jan 6, 202646 min

S6 Ep 46The Breakfast Club (1985) vs. St. Elmo's Fire (1985): Part 1

Two defining films. One generation. And a debate that still hasn’t cooled down. In Episode 1 of 2, Jason and Dee of the Surely You Can’t Be Serious podcast kick off a head-to-head breakdown of the iconic 1985 films The Breakfast Club and St. Elmo’s Fire. The guys start at the beginning, exploring how each movie came together, the very different creative paths that led to their production, and the directors who shaped what would become two cornerstones of 80s cinema. Along the way, they touch on Andrew McCarthy’s documentary Brats, using it as a lens to examine how these films helped define — and complicate — the Brat Pack legacy. To close out the episode, Jason and Dee zero in on The Breakfast Club, breaking down the cast one actor at a time, discussing what each performer brought to their role, and revealing which alternate actors were seriously considered before those now-legendary casting decisions were finalized. It’s context, history, and pure 80s nostalgia — with the real showdown just getting started.Support us on Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/surelypodcastFollow us on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@surelypodcastCheck out our new merch store: https://surely-you-cant-be-serious-merch.myshopify.com/

Dec 30, 202557 min

S6 Ep 45Star Wars Holiday Special (1978): Part 2 of 2

The madness continues. In Part 2 of their deep dive into the now-infamous Star Wars Holiday Special, Jason and Dee of Surely You Can’t Be Serious are once again joined by the guys from the 30something Movie Podcast to finish what they started. Having already crossed the point of no return, the crew pushes through the remaining skits, songs, and baffling story choices that somehow made it onto television. More celebrity appearances surface, the variety-show chaos escalates, and the line between endurance test and pop-culture archaeology completely disappears. In this episode, the guys not only break down what’s left of the special, but also wrestle with its legacy — how it became a whispered legend, a bootleg curiosity, and a rite of passage for Star Wars fans brave enough to seek it out. Was there anything worth saving? Or is its greatest contribution simply proving that even the biggest franchise in the world can spectacularly miss the mark? Strap in as the group reaches the end of the Wookiee-filled road and lives to tell the tale — barely.

Dec 23, 202539 min

S6 Ep 44Star Wars Holiday Special (1978): Part 1 of 2

What happens when a galaxy far, far away collides with late-1970s variety television and absolutely no one says no? In this very special (and possibly regrettable) episode of Surely You Can’t Be Serious, Jason and Dee are joined by special guest hosts from the 30something Movie Podcast to finally dare to watch — and break down — the now-infamous Star Wars Holiday Special. This is Part 1 of 2, and the guys go all in, dissecting every bizarre skit, every awkward musical number, every questionable story choice, and every moment that makes you ask, “How did this ever make it to air?”From uncomfortable Wookiee family dynamics, to celebrity cameos that feel like contractual obligations, to variety-show energy that completely ignores the rules of the Star Wars universe, nothing is spared. Context is provided, disbelief is shared, and sanity is repeatedly tested as the crew explores whether this special was misunderstood, doomed from the start, or exactly as bad as its reputation.Hit play and suffer joyfully with us as we document one of pop culture’s most legendary misfires — so you don’t have to watch it alone. Part 2 coming soon… assuming everyone survives.

Dec 22, 202543 min

S6 Ep 43No Doubt "Tragic Kingdom" (1995): Track by Track!

On this episode of Surely You Can’t Be Serious, Jason and Dee dive headfirst into one of the defining albums of the 1990s: No Doubt’s Tragic Kingdom. The guys trace the band’s painfully slow rise to fame — from the Orange County ska scene and early lineup tragedy to years of label frustration — and explore how those struggles helped fuel the emergence of Gwen Stefani as a brand-new pop and alternative icon. This isn’t overnight success; it’s a hard-earned breakthrough that reshaped the sound and look of mid-’90s music.Jason and Dee break down the creation of Tragic Kingdom, its production under Matthew Wilder, and how heartbreak, ambition, and timing collided to create a cultural juggernaut. They unpack the stories behind every track, from the raw emotion of “Don’t Speak” to the attitude of “Just a Girl” and the ska-punk energy that powered the album to massive MTV and radio dominance.Over the last three weeks, the guys put Tragic Kingdom up against two other era-defining releases — Alanis Morissette’s Jagged Little Pill (Week 1) and Jewel’s Pieces of You (Week 2) — as they debate legacy, impact, and staying power. Which album truly defined the ’90s? Tune in to find out how Jason and Dee rank these iconic records.

Dec 16, 20251h 13m

S6 Ep 42Jewel "Pieces of You" (1995): Track by Track!

This week on the Surely You Can’t Be Serious podcast, Jason and Dee continue their 90s album trilogy by exploring the quiet, unconventional, and deeply heartfelt debut that turned a young Alaskan singer-songwriter into a global sensation—Jewel’s Pieces of You.The guys dig into Jewel’s extraordinary backstory: her nomadic childhood in the Alaskan wilderness, the hardships that shaped her voice and worldview, and her determination to bring stripped-down, folk-driven storytelling to a pop landscape dominated by grunge and polished radio hits. Jason and Dee break down how Pieces of You was created—from the raw, minimalist production to the live-recorded tracks that captured the honesty of her coffeehouse performances.They uncover the stories behind every song, from the emotional punch of “You Were Meant for Me,” to the aching vulnerability of “Foolish Games,” to the social commentary woven throughout the album’s lesser-known tracks. And they trace the album’s slow but unstoppable rise as it connected with listeners one heart at a time, ultimately becoming one of the defining singer-songwriter albums of the decade.This is week two of a three-week showdown. Jason and Dee kicked things off with Alanis Morissette’s Jagged Little Pill, and next week they’ll wrap up the trilogy with No Doubt’s Tragic Kingdom. Once all three albums are on the table, how will the guys rank these 90s icons in terms of songwriting, impact, longevity, and cultural footprint?Tune in to find out—because the ultimate 90s showdown is heating up.

Dec 9, 20251h 9m

S6 Ep 41Alanis Morissette "Jagged Little Pill" (1995): Track by Track!

This week on the Surely You Can’t Be Serious podcast, Jason and Dee dive headfirst into one of the defining albums of the 1990s—Alanis Morissette’s Jagged Little Pill. The guys trace Alanis’s remarkable rise from Canadian teen pop idol to alt-rock truth-teller, exploring how a young artist reinvented herself and ended up creating one of the most influential albums of the decade.Jason and Dee unpack the creation of the record—from Alanis’s fateful collaboration with producer Glen Ballard, to the raw, confessional writing sessions that would reshape her public persona and give voice to a generation. They break down the production choices that gave the album its signature emotional punch and explain how Jagged Little Pill exploded into a cultural force that no one saw coming.And of course, the guys tell the story behind every track: the heartbreaks, the therapy sessions, the studio magic, and the controversies that surrounded songs like “You Oughta Know,” “Ironic,” and “Head Over Feet.”But this is just the beginning.Over the next two weeks, Jason and Dee will compare Jagged Little Pill with Jewel’s Pieces of You and No Doubt’s Tragic Kingdom—two other iconic albums that shaped the 90s and launched careers. Which album has the strongest songwriting? The biggest cultural footprint? The deepest emotional resonance? And how will the guys ultimately rank these three 90s juggernauts?Tune in as Jason and Dee rank them all—and maybe break a few hearts along the way.

Dec 2, 20251h 1m

S6 Ep 40Top 5 Worst Sequels of the 80s!

Sometimes after a movie is successful, a sequel is made to further the adventures with the characters in that world. Many times that story is bad (but not always). Sometimes it is an outright embarrassment. In this episode Jason and Dee breakdown their list of the bad decisions, poorly casted, money-grabbing, worst sequels of the 1980s! Join us for a fun discussion on all things cringy, dopey and overall dumb. Does our list match your list? Buckle up!

Nov 25, 202538 min
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