Sports Cards Nonsense

Mike and Jesse start the pod by talking about repackers and whether they are good for the health of the hobby (5:58). Then, they check in on the NBA market by talking Dame and Wemby (30:21). They also break down the recent spike in non-sports cards (42:05). Later, they discuss new releases and answer your mailbag questions (45:31). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start the pod by breaking down some of the biggest moves in NFL free agency and how they could affect card prices (5:02). Then, they discuss Upper Deck Series 2, Connor Bedard pricing, and the million-dollar bounty that has yet to be claimed (28:56). Later, they answer your mailbag questions (56:47). Also be sure to join the guys for Throwback Thursday on Fanatics Live tonight! Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start by talking about their experience at the Nashville Card Show (4:23). Then, they play a game and look at the pricing of the GOATs of each sport (14:34). Later, they discuss new releases (40:28) and answer your mailbag questions (54:44). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike starts the pod with a PC update (4:29) before Jesse gets into some popular hobby conspiracy theories (16:50). Then, Greg Lanctot calls in for an update on the hockey market (42:59). Later, they answer your mailbag questions (1:06:08). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Greg Lanctot Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start with some NBA talk, specifically about the Celtics and Jayson Tatum’s value in the card market (3:39). Then, they are joined by Brandon Verzal to talk about his TV show, ‘The Card Life’ (13:14). Later, they get into an update from SGC (36:14) before answering your mailbag questions (50:24). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Brandon Verzal Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse discuss the news of Collectors’ purchase of SGC and what it means for PSA and SGC (1:05). Then, they are joined with Darren Rovell—who broke the news—to talk about how it all went down (10:42). Later, they talk about Topps Series 1 missing the “first card" designation (32:56) before answering your mailbag questions (1:04:39). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Darren Rovell Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start the pod with their experience at the Topps Spot event in Scottsdale, Arizona, and the notable MLB players they spoke to (01:14). Then, Tom Ferrara of Pancake Analytics joins the show to discuss his research on whether championships affect prices and the market outlook for 2024 (22:05). Then, they delve into new releases and answer your mailbag questions (48:10). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Tom Ferrara Producer: Eduardo Ocampo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse are joined by Just Baseball’s Aram Leighton to discuss some prospects ahead of spring training (7:21). Then, they talk about a big event and giveaway they’ll be participating in next week (32:40). Later, they are joined by director Morgan Fox to talk about his new documentary, ‘The Hobby’ (38:51). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guests: Aram Leighton and Morgan Fox Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start by talking about the Super Bowl, Mahomes’s legacy, and the future of his card prices (3:58). Then they are joined by Enzo Patriarca from ‘Soccer Cards United’ for an F1 update (26:59). Later, they answer some of your mailbag questions (45:41). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Enzo Patriarca Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start by talking about different breaking styles and how to be safe when buying into breaks (8:58). Then they are joined by Nick Doherty to talk about his website, breakcomp.com, and how it benefits people in the hobby (24:36). Later, they are joined by Greg Lanctot for a breakdown of recent hockey releases (43:34). They end the pod by answering your mailbag questions (1:05:48). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guests: Nick Doherty and Greg Lanctot Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

A Deep-Dive Grading Conversation, and Mike and Jesse Argue Over the NFL Vintage Market With Tyler Tarver Mike and Jesse start the pod with a discussion around grading, including when it’s best to use PSA or SGC and the importance of timing in card sales (04:25). Then, collector Tyler Tarver joins the show to discuss the state of the basketball market, vintage football, and more (21:33). Mike and Jesse then debate whether it’s a good idea to invest in vintage football cards during the offseason (45:55). They end off with new releases (48:24) and your mailbag questions (58:03). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Tyler Tarver Producer: Eduardo Ocampo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start by talking about whether the 2023 NFL draft class is undervalued in the hobby (6:40). Then, they are joined by Troy Licastro from ‘The Chase Podcast’ to play a hobby edition of Would You Rather (23:57). Later, they answer your mailbag questions (1:08:42). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Troy Licastro Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start by talking about the conference championship round of the NFL playoffs, and how a Chiefs-49ers Super Bowl will affect the hobby (6:39). Then, they get into a Wander Franco redemption update from Topps, as well as some other card news from around the hobby (28:27). Later, they answer your mailbag questions (46:06). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start the pod by discussing the hobby’s reaction to Fanatics’ new program, “The 10” (01:39). Then, they discuss the recent hires of coaches, including Doc Rivers and Jim Harbaugh, and whether hires affect card prices (08:33). They provide a look into the non-sports cards market so far this year (12:48), before ending with your mailbag questions (31:46). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Producer: Eduardo Ocampo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start by talking about Mahomes’s big divisional-round win and whether he is already better than Brady (2:12). They also talk about the other standout divisional-round performances (6:08), before being joined by Ben Golliver from The Washington Post for some NBA talk (27:15). Finally, they talk about new releases and answer your mailbag questions (56:41). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Ben Golliver Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start by discussing the photoshopped Tom Brady card and whether it is a problem (4:31). Then, they break down Bowman’s Best and Absolute Football, and talk about which is better (14:25). Later, they preview the divisional round of the NFL playoffs (36:04) before answering your mailbag questions (59:20). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse are joined by Mike Giardi of the Boston Sports Journal to preview the upcoming NFL playoffs (08:17). They discuss each matchup, who they think will make it to the Super Bowl, and which QBs they think could have a postseason bump. After, Mike explains why he thinks the hobby will shift to NBA over the NFL in the coming months (30:11). They end by answering your mailbag questions (48:41)! Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Producer: Eduardo Ocampo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse begin the new year by talking all things Prizm (3:00). They also discuss whether modern card prices are too high and consider whether franchises like Disney, Star Wars, and Pokémon will surpass sports cards in sales (18:30). They wrap up by answering your fiery mailbag questions (50:20). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Producer: Devon Renaldo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

2024 is right around the corner, so Mike and Jesse are here to give their predictions for what the hobby will look like (01:26) in the new year. They discuss whether there should be optimism for the market to bounce back, their thoughts on grading, whether the football market will be able to rebound, and more. Then, they discuss new releases (41:30), and end the show by answering your mailbag questions (53:05). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Producer: Eduardo Ocampo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With 2023 nearly coming to a close, Mike and Jesse look back at the biggest stories and their predictions for the hobby this year (03:14). Afterward, they discuss their experience breaking on Fanatics Live so far and Joel Embiid’s and Ja Morant’s market, and Jesse provides a nonsense update (42:31). They end off with your mailbag questions (65:55)! Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Producer: Eduardo Ocampo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start by talking about the duplicates that have been found in 2023 Bowman Draft (1:47). Then, they delve into the NFL market as we get closer to the playoffs and discuss why Josh Allen could be a good buy (9:07). Later, they talk about the most impactful inserts in the history of the hobby (25:36) and answer your mailbag questions (50:55). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start the pod with a discussion with Just Baseball’s Aram Leighton about top prospects in the 2023 Bowman Draft (3:05). Then, they are joined by Kristina Thorson from Card Ladder to talk about the market and Tommy DeVito (25:13). After that, they discuss how Shohei Ohtani’s new team will affect his card market (42:25). Finally, they answer your mailbag questions (58:09). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guests: Aram Leighton and Kristina Thorson Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse are joined in studio by MLB Network’s Mark Feinsand! They talk about the Juan Soto trade, where Shohei Ohtani could end up, the Baseball Hall of Fame, and much more (6:57). Later, they answer some of your mailbag questions (53:16). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Mark Feinsand Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start the pod with news that they’ll be joining Fanatics Live (03:46)! They then go further into Michael Rubin’s appearance on the ‘The Bill Simmons Podcast’ and what they would’ve liked to hear (10:15). The two then look into the NFL quarterback cards that they would invest in right now (28:36). Finally, they end with new releases (41:53) and your mailbag questions (48:01). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Producer: Eduardo Ocampo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jesse starts the pod by talking about Michael Rubin’s recent comments about the hobby (3:02). Then, he is joined by Doug Caskey from Mojobreak to talk about what it’s like to own a card shop right now (13:17). Later, he is joined by Jason Flynn from Soccer Cards United to break down the soccer and Formula One card markets (30:07). Finally, Jesse answers your mailbag questions (1:05:13). Host: Jesse Gibson Guests: Doug Caskey and Jason Flynn Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start by discussing repacking. They talk about if it is a scam and the impact it could be having on the hobby (2:10). Later, they check in on some quarterback pricing in the NFL market (31:11) then talk about the 2024 Baseball Hall of Fame ballot (38:24). Finally, they answer some of your mailbag questions (59:25). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse talk about the NFL market and how it is being affected by a bad year for quarterbacks (3:10). They also discuss the hobby drama of the week: “shilling” (24:20). Then, they are joined by Zach Polen from PC Sports Cards to follow up on the baseball auction (34:33). Later, they discuss new releases and answer your mailbag questions (51:32). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Zach Polen Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start the pod by breaking down Topps Chrome Update and the confusion regarding the redemption of the Rookie Debut Patch Autograph cards (02:10). Then, they discuss why long-term holds for football are a bad investment compared to other sports (25:20). Jesse then provides a nonsense update that leads to a Obi-Wan Kenobi–Jedi rant from Mike (38:39). They end the show with your mailbag questions (58:44)! Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Producer: Eduardo Ocampo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse talk about why the hobby has slowed down, especially for NFL cards (3:01). Then, they are joined by Zach Polen from PC Sports Cards to talk about the state of the market (26:55). Later, they discuss new releases and answer your mailbag questions (44:26). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Zach Polen Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start by talking about LeBron James signing with Fanatics (11:10). Then they discuss which is the better investment, Topps Chrome or Prizm (21:15). Later, they are joined by YouTuber, Simon Chan, to talk about some of the question marks he has found in The National’s finances (29:50). Finally, they answer your mailbag questions (1:03:20). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Simon Chan Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse talk about what to do with some big-name non-quarterbacks in the card market (4:19). Then, they are joined by “Prizm Gawd,” Raphael Mosely, to talk about the Culture Collision card show (17:50). Later, they talk about the vintage football market (35:53), before going over new releases and answering mailbag questions (47:02). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Raphael Mosley Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse discuss the end of Card Shop Live. They talk about where things went wrong for the app, and what they learned from the experience (0:58). After that, they are joined by Chris McGill from Card Ladder to talk about the card market, and play a game about prices for NBA MVP candidates (21:25). Finally, they answer your mailbag questions (1:02:13). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Chris McGill Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start the pod by discussing the bizarre week of NFL QB play, including Will Levis’s impressive debut and Brock Purdy’s continued struggles (00:43). Then, they discuss the return of investment between football and baseball (15:29). After, Ken Goldin, host of Netflix’s ‘King of Collectibles: The Goldin Touch,’ joins the show to discuss the rise of Type 1 photographs and celebrities who are really into card collecting (29:17). After, they discuss new releases and answer your mailbag questions (50:55). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Ken Goldin Producer: Eduardo Ocampo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse discuss the first few days of the NBA season and talk about which players they are buying, such as Cade Cunningham, Kristaps Porzingis, and more (5:18). Then, they are joined by Jeremy Lee from Sports Cards Live to talk about the NHL card market (17:57). Later, they answer your mailbag questions (55:40). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Jeremy Lee Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse delve into the current quarterback market and whether players like Justin Herbert, Tyson Bagent, and Jalen Hurts are worth investing in (00:43). Then, they discuss Overtime Rips’ suspension from Fanatics Live (29:50) and the top sports that need cards (41:05). After, they run down some new releases (48:37) and answer your mailbag questions (64:50). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Producer: Eduardo Ocampo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start by discussing the news about Tim Duncan’s deal with Panini (4:28). Then, they talk about some NBA players whose markets are heating up (12:03). After that, they are joined by President Pete Steinberg of SGC to talk about some of the things that SGC is doing in the grading world (27:02). Later, they answer your mailbag questions (1:09:20). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Pete Steinberg Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start the pod by discussing card guys' overreactions to Brock Purdy’s lackluster performance against the Browns, and they also look at the quarterback card market (02:35). Then, they detail their experience at the Nashville Card Show (20:09) and talk about the WWE-Panini lawsuit (30:38) before delving into the newest releases (35:05). Finally, they end with your mailbag questions (51:09)! Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Producer: Eduardo Ocampo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse discuss Victor Wembanyama card prices and check in with the NBA market as the season approaches (3:39). Later they talk about some hobby news, including the Leaf “Book of Love” cards, 2023 Topps Stadium Club's release being pushed, and MLB Debut Patches being included in 2023 Topps Chrome Update (36:48). Finally, they answer your mailbag questions (56:30). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start the pod by discussing Mike’s renewed interest in the Boston Celtics this year, and they connect it to the importance of nostalgia in the hobby (03:07). Then, they discuss the state of the hobby and if the hobby needs to adapt to expand its reach (18:33). After, they discuss the MLB playoffs and Corbin Carroll’s ascension (32:49), the bestselling cards of this month (36:10), and new releases (47:24). They end with your mailbag questions (62:53). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Producer: Eduardo Ocampo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start by discussing the Taco Fractor prize announcement (7:40). Then, they recap the MLB Wild-Card round (14:43) and preview the week ahead in the NFL (16:53). Later, Chris McGill from Card Ladder joins the show for a market update and to play a game involving card prices of NFL MVP candidates (25:59). Finally, they answer some of your mailbag questions (52:19). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Chris McGill Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start with a legal update on Panini’s struggles with WWE and the NFLPA (2:18). Then, they talk about Topps’ response to the one-of-one errors in Bowman Chrome (8:16). Later, they preview the MLB playoffs from a hobby perspective (21:07), and break down this weekend’s NFL action (30:38). Finally, they discuss some new product releases (43:23). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start by discussing the duplicate one-of-one cards in 2023 Bowman Chrome (4:37). Then, they get into the hobby impact of Damian Lillard getting traded to the Bucks (15:37). Mike also talks about the cards he is currently buying and selling, such as Aidan O'Connell and Tua Tagovailoa (22:45). Later, Matt Novogratz joins the pod to talk about the things that Candy is doing in the digital collectables space (33:34). Finally, they end the pod by answering your mailbag questions (1:06:07). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Matt Novogratz Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start by discussing how Panini lost its WWE license and what that means (2:31). Then, they discuss whether eBay sales are really struggling (14:17). Later, they talk about how many big product releases there have been recently as well as which backup quarterbacks could be worth investing in (17:39). Finally, they answer your mailbag questions (46:50). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start by discussing the reason why people chase the next great quarterback in the hobby, and if there are any today (4:49). Then, they discuss MLB and look back on Jefferson Burdick, a hobby hero (22:48). Later, they go through new releases (35:31) and answer your mailbag questions (48:43). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jesse starts off another solo show with his view of the hobby at the moment, and discusses whether the Backyard Breaks scandal is an overreaction or not. Then Soccer Cards United’s Jason Flynn joins the show to discuss the soccer and F1 market in Europe (15:21). Then Jesse wraps up the show with some NFL Week 2 cards to buy, sell, or hold, then answering some mailbag questions and more (53:25). Host: Jesse Gibson Guest: Jason Flynn Producer: Isaiah Blakely Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse start by discussing Sunday’s NFL action and breaking down what cards to buy, sell, or hold (7:20). Later, they are joined by Just Baseball’s Aram Leighton to talk about prospects and review Bowman Chrome 2023 (28:23). Finally, they answer your mailbag questions (1:03:45). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guest: Aram Leighton Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With the arrival of Mike’s newborn child, Jesse is running today’s episode solo! First, Mike quickly calls in to the show before Jesse touches on Lorcana prices and Deion Sanders’s card value going up (05:42). Then, Darren Rovell of Action Network joins the show to discuss his recent story regarding the fraud scandal surrounding Cardporn’s Juan Garcia (17:32). Finally, Chris McGill of Card Ladder joins to preview the NFL market for this upcoming season (38:13). Host: Jesse Gibson Guests: Mike Gioseffi, Darren Rovell, and Chris McGill Producer: Eduardo Ocampo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike starts off another solo episode by hitting on a few topics around the hobby, including Jasson Dominguez’s call-up to the Yankees (02:06). Then, Eddie of SCN Breaks joins to discuss Topps Chrome Cosmic, list the biggest issues with breakers, and more (10:02). Mike ends the pod with your mailbag questions (36:31). Host: Mike Gioseffi Guest: Eddie Mancini Producer: Eduardo Ocampo Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike’s running solo today, and he’s being positive about the hobby. He starts by getting sentimental and talking about his history with card collecting (1:28). Then, he talks about the insane Lorcana prices and how stores are handling it (11:10). He also discusses how Mookie Betts is overtaking Ronald Acuña Jr. as the MVP favorite (14:29). Later, he talks about Topps Cosmic (21:31) before answering your mailbag questions (38:28). Host: Mike Gioseffi Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Mike and Jesse talk about the latest updates and biggest questions surrounding the NFLPA’s decision to terminate their deal with Panini (0:41). Their agent, Jeremy Aisenberg, calls in to give his thoughts on what the coming arbitration could mean for the hobby (31:19). After that, Darren Rovell of Action Network joins the show to give his insight on the case as the man who broke the story (40:51). Later, Mike and Jesse discuss the Shohei Ohtani injury and the “crack and cross” controversy (51:03). Finally, they answer your mailbag questions (1:08:34). Hosts: Mike Gioseffi and Jesse Gibson Guests: Jeremy Aisenberg and Darren Rovell Associate Producer: Carlos Chiriboga Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices