
Show overview
Ski in-Sell Out! launched in 2025 and has put out 24 episodes in the time since. That works out to roughly 20 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a fortnightly cadence.
Episodes typically run thirty-five to sixty minutes — most land between 53 min and 59 min — and the run-time is fairly consistent across the catalogue. The publisher flags most episodes as explicit, so expect adult themes or strong language throughout. It is catalogued as a EN-GB-language Business show.
The show is actively publishing — the most recent episode landed 4 days ago, with 14 episodes already out so far this year. Published by Max Doilney and Lauren Angerosa.
From the publisher
This podcast blends real estate, storytelling, and lifestyle in Park City, Utah. Hosts Max Doilney and Lauren Angerosa pull back the curtain on what it’s like to break into and thrive in a ridiculously competitive luxury market. You’ll hear candid takes on career transitions, family business dynamics, local history, and what really happens when ski town culture collides with high-stakes deals. Expect humor, honesty, and a few unexpected tangents along the way.
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S1 Ep 19Buy the Land, Figure It Out Later - Eric Gingras
EA conversation about how people actually end up in Park City — and why it’s rarely a straight line.Eric Gingras shares his journey from the East Coast to Red Ledges, starting with ski trips, taking calculated risks, buying land before having a plan, and slowly building a life in Utah. What starts as curiosity turns into commitment — and eventually, a full transition into real estate, community, and lifestyle.This episode explores the common thread behind so many Park City stories: people chasing something more — and figuring it out along the way.We get into:Why Park City keeps pulling people inThe real decision points behind a life changeWhat it means to “buy into” a lifestyleThe difference between selling something and actually believing in itWhy giving back (even teaching kids to ski) mattersIf you’ve ever thought about making a move — this is the story behind it.

S1 Ep 18Before Park City Was Park City - Jim Doilney
EWhat was Park City like before it became… Park City?In this episode of Ski In Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with Max’s dad, Jim Doilney — one of the early builders of modern Park City.From dodging the Vietnam draft to building homes, creating neighborhoods, preserving open space, and helping shape the town we know today — this is a raw, honest look at how it all came together.This isn’t just a story about real estate. It’s a story about community, risk, failure, and building a life in a place you believe in.And why, at the end of the day… we’re not really selling houses — we’re selling Park City.

S1 Ep 17New Episode 2/26/2026, 6:05:57 PM
EIn this episode of Ski In Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with builder Matt Russell, founder of Build Utah, to talk about what really happens behind the scenes of luxury construction in Park City.Matt’s journey didn’t start with blueprints — it started in dental school in Manhattan. After 9/11, a Volkswagen bus, and a cross-country reset, he chose dirt over dentistry and never looked back.We talk about:Why every contractor ends up being a marriage therapistWhat 25 years in construction actually teaches youThe stress of building homes that have never been built beforeBig glass walls, bigger expectationsTrust in an “open kimono” businessAnd what it takes to build a company that lasts longer than the homes inside itThis is a conversation about craftsmanship, reputation, and why trust matters more than tile.

S1 Ep 16Creative Commitment - Barclay Butera
Max and Lauren sit down with renowned designer Barclay Butera to talk about creativity, growth, and what it really means to build a business that lasts.From growing up in a family design firm to expanding across Newport Beach, New York, Los Angeles, and Park City — Barclay shares the highs, the hard lessons from 2008, and why relationships matter more than scale.This conversation goes beyond design — touching on real estate evolution, legacy neighborhoods, community growth, and how Park City continues to reinvent itself.If you’re interested in real estate, design, entrepreneurship, or simply the people shaping mountain towns, this episode delivers.Barclay’s early years growing up in a design familyLeaving law school to build a creative careerExpanding to 132 employees — and why he intentionally scaled backThe impact of the 2008 crash on design businessesHow design and real estate intersect in Park CityRefresh vs. teardown: evolving legacy homesWhy relationships drive long-term successStaying ahead of trends through global travelAging gracefully while continuing to build

S1 Ep 15Start Gate to Closing Table - Abbi Martz
EAbbi Martz joins Ski In Sell Out to talk about her path from elite ski racing to luxury real estate in Park City, Utah. Raised on a ski mountain in New Hampshire and shaped by years of high-level competition, Abbi brings discipline, clarity, and heart to her work in Deer Valley real estate.In this episode, we cover ski racing culture, growing up as an identical twin, transitioning from athletics to business, building a successful real estate partnership, and raising a family in a rapidly changing mountain town.Whether you’re interested in Park City real estate, ski town life, or building a career rooted in values and lifestyle, this episode offers a grounded, honest look at what it means to build something lasting—on and off the mountain.

S1 Ep 14Built Without A Desk!
EWhat happens when a lifelong bartender, adventure-seeker, and ski-town local decides to “sell out”—without actually selling out?In this episode of Ski In Sell Out, hosts Max Doilney and Lauren Angerosa sit down with Park City real estate agent Andy Cordray to explore a career pivot rooted in authenticity, lifestyle, and hard-earned self-awareness.Andy shares his unconventional journey from bartending on Main Street to becoming one of Park City’s most trusted real estate professionals—while keeping his long hair, tattoos, and love for dirt bikes, horses, and powder days intact. Along the way, the conversation dives into near-death decisions, burnout, introversion, redefining success, and why real estate works best when it reflects who you actually are.This episode is for anyone navigating reinvention, questioning traditional success, or trying to build a career that supports real life—not the other way around.Topics covered:Career reinvention in ski townsLeaving the bar industry for real estateIdentity, burnout, and balanceSelling lifestyle, not just propertyWhy authenticity is a competitive advantage

S1 Ep 13Qualify Your Mentor - Ace Allak
EIn this episode of Ski In Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with Ace Allak for a grounded, honest conversation about leadership, mentorship, and the responsibility that comes with building something meaningful.Ace shares lessons from his early life, the pressure to perform, and the long road to building successful businesses—while avoiding the traps of burnout, ego, and false balance. At the center of the conversation is a simple but powerful idea: you must qualify your mentor.This episode explores why burn can’t be taught, why elimination creates balance, and why the best leaders often make themselves the most accessible. It’s a conversation about success, yes—but more importantly, about significance.

S1 Ep 12Jill of All Trades
EJill Johnson grew up in Park City when it was still a sleepy mountain town — when kids biked everywhere, ski days were built into school, and the mountain itself felt like a babysitter. In this episode, Jill reflects on growing up in a family deeply tied to the shaping of Park City, her journey as a competitive mogul skier, her years away in Chicago studying art therapy, and what ultimately pulled her back home.Now working in real estate at Powder Mountain / Powder Haven, Jill shares a thoughtful perspective on change, community, and what it means to “sell” a lifestyle without selling out. This is a conversation about roots, reinvention, raising kids in a transformed town, and choosing place — again and again.

S1 Ep 11Staying Without Selling Out
EWhat does it actually mean to stay in a place like Park City — without getting stuck, bitter, or burned out?In this episode of Ski In Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with Molly Crosswhite, a Park City native and co-founder of Selling the Slopes, whose life and career track the town’s evolution in real time.Molly opens up about growing up in Park City before the boom, leaving to find her own footing, and choosing to come back — not because it was easy, but because the place kept changing with her. They talk about early access to real estate, raising kids in a town flooded with wealth, and how perspective shifts when you’re both a local and a professional guide for newcomers.The conversation dives deep into what actually sustains a long career: momentum, trust, energy, and knowing when to walk away — even from “good” deals. Molly also shares how her partnership with Rachel Retzer works precisely because they’re different people with complementary strengths, and why success without balance eventually costs more than it pays.This episode isn’t about hacks or volume. It’s about staying human in a high-stakes business — and building a life you don’t need to escape from.

S1 Ep 1010- Oops… We Sold Out - Rachel Retzer
EOops… We Sold Out.What does “selling out” really mean in a ski town?In this episode of Ski In, Sell Out, Max Doilney and Lauren Angerosa sit down with Rachel Retzer of Selling the Slopes for a candid, funny, and thoughtful conversation about career pivots, identity, and finding work that actually fits.From teaching elementary school to selling luxury real estate, Rachel shares how freedom, stability, and partnership only work when your career aligns with who you are — not who people expect you to be. Together, they unpack ski town stereotypes, real estate myths, and why “selling out” might just be another word for growing up.

S1 Ep 909 Ski Shop Kid to Billion Dollar Brokerage Ben Fisher
EIn this episode of Ski In, Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with Ben Fisher, one of the founders of Christie’s International Real Estate Park City. Ben’s path is rare — he got his first “referral fee” at 16 working in a ski shop, skipped the typical post-college wandering years, and jumped into real estate full-time by his early 20s.Ben opens up about:Growing up in Park City after his dad took a massive career swing to move the family west park-city-real-estate-journey-t…What it’s like to build a brokerage from absolutely nothing (literally no carpet, no accounting, no systems) park-city-real-estate-journey-t…How Christie's founders fit together and why the partnership works without ego or drama park-city-real-estate-journey-t…The pressure of raising kids in the Park City “bubble” and fighting entitlement with real-world experiences park-city-real-estate-journey-t…Being an introvert running operations behind the scenes — and why people listen when he does speak up park-city-real-estate-journey-t…What he actually enjoys about real estate now, 15+ years inThis one is honest, grounded, and a great look inside the people shaping modern Park City real estate.

S1 Ep 8Episode 08 - From Vagabond Bartender to Park City Broker: Sam Cubis
EMax and Lauren welcome Sam, one of the owners of Christie's International Real Estate Park City and a former top agent at Sotheby’s, to talk about the real story behind his “rocket ship” career.Sam shares how he went from bartending and bouncing around Europe, to moving to Park City for family, to jumping into real estate with a father-in-law who handed him the “junk” leads. He talks about cold-calling architects, pulling a postcard out of the trash that led to a life-long client, and why having a New Zealand accent is secretly a sales advantage.The conversation ranges from:how to spot and act on “luck” by keeping your head uptreating open houses and random encounters as real opportunitiesbuilding trust with other agents so they actually want to send you businesstraveling with kids and raising a family inside the Park City bubblewhat stress did to his dad and why he now designs his life and company to avoid itwhy Christie's Park City was built to be fun, low-ego, and human-firstIt’s a candid, warm, and surprisingly deep talk about identity, parenting, community, and why real estate doesn’t have to feel like a grind to work.

S1 Ep 7The Humble High Performer: Inside the Mind of Matt Magnotta
EWhat happens when a lifelong skier from the Poconos follows his heart west—and ends up helping shape one of the most dynamic resort real-estate markets in the country? In this heartfelt episode of Ski In Sell Out, Max and Lauren talk with Matt Magnotta, Managing Partner at Christie’s International Real Estate Park City, about his climb from golf professional to trusted development-sales leader. Matt opens up about the recession that tested him, the mentors who helped him redefine sales through honesty and service, and the peace he’s found in living where others dream of vacationing. This episode is about more than real estate—it’s about resilience, character, and choosing to live life with intention in the mountains.

S1 Ep 6From The Rink to Real Estate with Aly Dudek
ETwo-time Olympic speed skater Aly Dudek swapped the ice for the Wasatch Back—and she’s not looking back. In this episode, Max and Lauren dig into what it really means to “sell out” in Park City: chasing big goals, rebuilding identity, and finding purpose after the podium. Aly dishes on life in a team of top agents, the competitive edge that never dies, and how she accidentally became the Realtor everyone wants on their side (and on their bike rides).Expect laughs, truth bombs, and a few inside jokes about fanny packs, medals, and the fine art of showing homes in ski boots.

S1 Ep 505 - Family, Foundations & The Myth of Selling Out — With Jake Doilney
EIn this episode of Ski In, Sell Out, Max and Lauren sit down with Jake Doilney—Principal Broker at Christie’s International Real Estate Park City—to trace a multigenerational story of vision, grit, and reinvention. They explore:🏔️ How Park City’s “ski-in sell-out” roots shaped today’s real-estate landscape🧠 Why being called a sellout can actually mean showing up for your community👨👩👧 The intertwined Doilney family tree that helped build modern Park City💡 Mentorship, burnout, and how to thrive through market cycles❤️ Why human connection—not commissions—keeps the best brokers goingThis candid conversation moves from heartfelt to hilarious, reminding listeners that growth and gratitude can coexist with change.