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What Senator Martin Heinrich Needs to See in a Permitting Deal
Season 3 · Episode 26

What Senator Martin Heinrich Needs to See in a Permitting Deal

Rob talks with the lawmaker from New Mexico (and one-time mechanical engineer) about the present and future of climate policy.

Shift Key with Robinson Meyer · Heatmap News

February 9, 202632m 55s

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Show Notes

Rob talks to Senator Martin Heinrich about whether Republicans and Democrats will reach a permitting reform deal this year. They chat about what Democrats would need to see in such a deal, how it could help transmission projects, and why such a deal will ultimately need to constrain President Trump in some way.

They also discuss the future of Democratic energy and climate policy — what Heinrich learned from the Biden administration, what the Inflation Reduction Act got right (and wrong), and why data centers are becoming a new kind of energy villain.

Heinrich is the senior senator from New Mexico (and a well-known transmission policy nerd). He’s also a trained mechanical engineer and the son of a utility lineman. Shift Key is hosted by Robinson Meyer, the founding executive editor of Heatmap, and Jesse Jenkins, a professor of energy systems engineering at Princeton University. Jesse is off this week.

You can find the full transcript of this episode here.

Mentioned:

SunZia: The Untold Saga of America's Biggest Power Line, by Robinson Meyer

The FREEDOM Act: New Bipartisan House Bill Would Keep President From Yanking Permits

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Music for Shift Key is by Adam Kromelow.


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