She Said Privacy/He Said Security

Doug Miller is an Executive Coach at Doug Miller Strategies, a consultancy for privacy and compliance executives, professionals, and teams. Having been a Global Privacy Leader at AOL and Yahoo, he's faced the challenges of overburdened privacy teams firsthand. In this episode… Privacy professionals face unique challenges in their roles, often working across teams to implement privacy initiatives that might not always be a top priority for the broader organization. Many privacy professionals struggle with persuading stakeholders, managing heavy workloads, and effectively communicating risk across their organizations. This uphill battle requires confidence, strong leadership skills, and persuasive communication to effectively integrate privacy into business operations. How can privacy professionals develop these skills while building privacy programs and addressing burnout and career growth? Executive coaching is a powerful tool for privacy professionals looking to improve their leadership skills and ability to influence decision-making. Mastering prioritization, cross-functional collaboration, and articulating the value of privacy programs are essential for long-term success in privacy roles. Practical strategies such as improving time management, refining persuasion techniques, and addressing burnout can help privacy professionals navigate their responsibilities more effectively. By focusing on behavioral shifts and mindset adjustments, privacy leaders can strengthen their influence, drive organizational change, and create sustainable privacy programs. Whether working solo or as part of a privacy team, patience, adaptability, and proactive engagement are critical for success. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels talk with Doug Miller, Executive Coach at Doug Miller Strategies, about how coaching can help privacy professionals refine their leadership skills to navigate challenges and lead their teams. Doug shares insights on the skills privacy professionals need to develop, how leaders can better support their teams, and why coaching can help professionals build resilience amid regulatory and organizational challenges. He offers strategies for preventing burnout and fostering cross-departmental collaboration to build effective privacy programs.

Jessica Lee chairs Loeb & Loeb's Privacy, Security & Data Innovations practice and serves as Chief Privacy & Security Partner. She provides strategic legal counsel to companies navigating complex data governance issues, helping them turn compliance into a competitive advantage. Jessica advises on the full spectrum of privacy, security, and AI-related regulations, focusing on companies navigating the issues that arise from AdTech, the use of health data and other sensitive information, and other data monetization practices. In this episode… The California Invasion of Privacy Act (CIPA) is putting many businesses under legal scrutiny. Modeled after federal wiretapping laws, CIPA requires two-party consent for recording or intercepting communications and has become a target for the plaintiffs' bar. The law has been used to challenge the use of session replay cookies, chatbots, and social media pixels, with claims that these technologies intercept data and communications without proper consent. As courts issue mixed rulings, businesses need to adapt their privacy frameworks and governance programs to reduce the risk of CIPA violations. Addressing CIPA-related risks requires a proactive and thorough approach. Managing website tracking technologies is no longer just about implementing cookie consent banners. Businesses also need to conduct comprehensive website audits to identify which cookies, pixels, and trackers are in use, ensuring these technologies comply with CIPA's consent requirements. Implementing a cookie governance program, securing thorough contractual agreements with third-party vendors, and disclosing data collection and consent practices in privacy notices are critical steps for mitigating CIPA-related risks. By adopting these strategies, companies can reduce their exposure to legal action and maintain trust with their users, even as courts continue to interpret CIPA's application to modern technologies. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Jessica Lee, Chief Privacy & Security Partner and Chair of the Privacy, Security, and Data Innovations Practice at Loeb & Loeb, about managing CIPA compliance. Jessica provides a detailed overview of CIPA's requirements and breaks down why certain technologies are being targeted. She also discusses the importance of regular website audits and offers practical advice on mitigating risk by implementing a cookie governance program, reviewing consent management practices, and establishing contractual protections.

Timothy Nobles, Chief Commercial Officer at Integral, is passionate about empowering organizations to explore the full potential of their data while maintaining the highest standards of privacy and compliance. With over 20 years of experience in data and analytics, he has held leadership roles at innovative companies across multiple industries. In this episode… Balancing data enablement with privacy compliance is vital for organizations aiming to use data effectively while maintaining trust and meeting regulatory requirements. Data enablement focuses on making data accessible, usable, and valuable to users across an organization while ensuring it remains secure and compliant. Regulated industries, such as healthcare, face significant challenges, including evolving privacy laws and managing re-identification risks tied to sensitive data. Without a strong privacy framework, businesses risk regulatory penalties, reputational damage, and missed opportunities for data-driven decision-making. Effective data enablement relies on more than just technology — it requires governance and a thoughtful approach to privacy and compliance. By adopting privacy-enhancing technologies (PETs), such as tokenization, homomorphic encryption, data masking, and differential privacy, organizations can minimize risks and protect personal information while making data usable. However, these tools alone are not enough. Organizations need to implement data governance frameworks, assess re-identification risks, and balance data utility with regulatory requirements. By aligning compliance efforts with strategic business goals, organizations can unlock data potential without compromising privacy. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Timothy Nobles, Chief Commercial Officer at Integral, about how organizations can embrace data enablement in regulated industries. Timothy discusses practical applications of privacy-enhancing technologies, strategies to mitigate re-identification risks, and the importance of starting with governance to guide data use. The conversation also highlights how companies can approach AI responsibly by focusing on understanding data inputs to ensure ethical and compliant outcomes.

Aaron Painter is a deepfake expert and the CEO of Nametag, an identity verification company at the forefront of stopping social engineering attacks at the employee IT helpdesk. In this episode… New cybersecurity threats, like deepfakes and social engineering attacks, are forcing companies to rethink their security measures and fraud prevention processes. Companies face mounting risks as threat actors leverage advanced AI tools and other techniques to bypass traditional verification methods, such as passwords and security questions. This evolving threat landscape calls for innovative solutions that help companies verify identities, prevent fraud, and protect privacy, and that's why companies like Nametag are creating secure platforms to address these challenges. Nametag's innovative approach to identity verification offers a practical solution to this pressing challenge. By leveraging the security features of mobile devices, such as cryptography and three-dimensional facial recognition, Nametag enables companies to verify identities with greater accuracy. This method offers a practical alternative to outdated approaches like passwords and security questions, which are often prone to fraud. Additionally, Nametag's privacy-first design enables companies to tailor their solutions while protecting user data through features like privacy masking. Listening closely to customer feedback, Nametag has developed tools that empower companies to address pain points, such as help desk vulnerabilities, to improve security and privacy measures and the user experience. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Aaron Painter, CEO of Nametag, about the evolution of identity verification and deepfakes. Aaron explains the threats posed by deepfakes, the weaknesses in current systems, and how Nametag's platform addresses these challenges. Aaron shares insights into the importance of balancing privacy with security and how companies can protect themselves as threat actors become more sophisticated. He also discusses how Nametag's solutions address real-world problems, including reducing help desk vulnerabilities and improving MFA recovery processes.

Ben Chapman is the General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer at Swoop. Prior to Swoop, Ben was the Deputy General Counsel for Real Chemistry. He has nearly 10 years of experience in ad tech, data, and privacy matters. In this episode… Companies that operate in the healthcare marketing space, like Swoop, approach privacy by emphasizing transparency, ethical practices, and building trusted partnerships. To remain compliant, businesses need to thoroughly understand their data handling processes and regularly assess their partners. By asking detailed, factual questions, companies can make informed decisions about their partners' practices and ultimately strengthen their privacy programs. Additionally, adopting a consumer- or patient-centric perspective helps businesses navigate the complexities of privacy laws while aligning with regulatory requirements and ethical standards. A proactive and well-informed approach to privacy strengthens compliance efforts and builds trust. Healthcare marketing faces new challenges as privacy laws evolve and health data definitions expand. Laws like the Washington My Health My Data Act broaden the scope of what constitutes health data, requiring organizations to reevaluate how they handle consumer data. Navigating this complex regulatory landscape requires companies to ensure compliance with state privacy laws and federal regulations like HIPAA, all while maintaining trust and transparency with consumers. How can companies ensure ethical and privacy-friendly marketing practices? In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Ben Chapman, General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer at Swoop, about the intersection of privacy and healthcare marketing. They discuss how state privacy laws redefine health data, the importance of ethical data practices, and strategies for evaluating partners. Ben shares his insights on building privacy programs, fostering collaboration, and navigating the nuances of healthcare marketing in a highly regulated environment. He also highlights the importance of continuous learning and collaboration within the privacy community to stay ahead in the ever-changing regulatory environment.

Natalie LaPorta is the Chief US Privacy Officer for Walgreens, where she focuses on various privacy matters that impact US patient and consumer data privacy, including state and federal data privacy compliance, complex contract negotiations, digital privacy, de-identification, AI, analytics, and marketing. Prior to her most recent role at Walgreens, Natalie was an Associate Attorney at Dentons US LLP, where she handled healthcare regulatory, tax-exempt bond finance, and M&A matters. She holds a bachelor's degree in political science from Benedictine University and a law degree from The John Marshall Law School. In this episode… New privacy laws, requirements, and expanding health data definitions require organizations to rethink and adjust their privacy programs accordingly. For companies like Walgreens, navigating these changes entails addressing both long-standing regulations, such as HIPAA, and emerging privacy laws that govern a broader scope of data. As businesses juggle diverse regulatory requirements, shifting data definitions, and operational demands, how can they create a privacy program that is effective and adaptable? Walgreens' approach to privacy exemplifies how businesses can adapt to an evolving regulatory landscape. Effective privacy programs start with understanding how shifting privacy requirements impact different business functions, from marketing to IT and analytics. With privacy regulations now extending beyond HIPAA to include other forms of personal information, companies need to develop tailored privacy strategies, provide ongoing education, and build strong relationships across departments to ensure privacy measures are integrated into everyday business operations. By making privacy a proactive and collaborative effort, companies can enhance compliance and reduce risks. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Natalie LaPorta, Chief US Privacy Officer at Walgreens, about the evolution of privacy programs in the healthcare and retail sectors. Natalie shares her journey of building a privacy legal function at Walgreens, the importance of building cross-functional relationships, and how tailored approaches can address privacy challenges. She also offers practical advice for creating a privacy culture and shares insights on navigating vendor relationships and using technology to support compliance efforts.

Shay Colson is a Co-founder and Managing Partner at Intentional Cybersecurity, a risk assessment and strategic advisory firm. After spending his early career as a security engineer for the US Government, he worked for a global consulting firm. In this episode… The evolving cyber landscape constantly presents new challenges that require businesses to elevate their cybersecurity posture. With the release of NIST CSF 2.0, organizations now have a stronger framework to guide their approach, focusing on governance as a critical function. This addition emphasizes the importance of integrating cybersecurity as a core business function rather than treating it as a siloed IT function. How can organizations adapt to this evolving landscape while improving resilience and reducing risk? Governance now leads NIST CSF 2.0 as the primary function, emphasizing the importance for organizations to clearly define cybersecurity ownership, responsibilities, and decision-making processes. Organizations need to move beyond treating cybersecurity as a technical issue to recognizing it as a core business function. And, as threat actors become more sophisticated and leverage AI to accelerate cyber attacks, businesses need to adopt governance models that promote agility, resilience, and proactive risk management. This means integrating security and privacy frameworks into business operations. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Shay Colson, Managing Partner and Co-founder of Intentional Cybersecurity, about the critical role governance plays in building cyber resilience. Shay explains how companies can use frameworks like NIST CSF 2.0 to implement scalable cybersecurity strategies without overextending their resources. He also shares insights on the intersection of security and privacy, AI-driven risk assessments, and why focusing on the basics is essential before adopting advanced solutions.

Julia Shullman is the General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer at Telly, the world's first dual-screen smart TV fully paid for by advertising. Prior to Telly, Julia was General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer at TripleLift, through its $1.4B acquisition by Vista Equity Partners. She also held various leadership positions, including Chief Privacy Counsel and Lead Attorney, Publisher Technology Group at AppNexus, through its $1.6B sale to AT&T. Before advertising, Julia spent a decade in mergers and acquisitions at both Latham & Watkins and UBM. She is recognized as an industry leader at the intersection of privacy, products, advertising, policy, and strategy. In this episode… Navigating the intersection of privacy, product, and advertising demands strategy. Companies need to view privacy as integral to their operations and growth, especially in highly regulated industries like AdTech. Without effective privacy programs, companies face potential deal disruptions, diminished valuations, and reputational damages. For early-stage companies in particular, failing to integrate privacy into their operations can hinder growth, derail funding opportunities, and even lead to regulatory scrutiny. How can organizations ensure that privacy is both a priority and an enabler of success? Developing effective privacy programs requires a tailored, pragmatic approach. Leaders need to educate their teams on privacy obligations and integrate privacy practices into business processes. This includes fostering collaboration among privacy experts and cross-functional departments, such as engineering and marketing, while adapting to industry-specific nuances. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Julia Shullman, General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer at Telly, about building privacy programs that drive business success. Drawing from her extensive experience in M&A, privacy, and AdTech, Julia offers insights into balancing privacy with business monetization goals. She discusses the importance of understanding industry dynamics and the role of privacy in facilitating successful exits and partnerships. Julia emphasizes the value of cross-departmental collaboration and education in creating privacy solutions that resonate with a company's culture and business objectives. She also provides tips on how organizations can align their privacy programs with broader business strategies to build trust, ensure compliance, and drive innovation.

Arjun and Abhijay Bhatnagar are Co-founders of Cloaked, a consumer privacy company. As developers and privacy advocates, they have created a secure, all-in-one privacy platform that gives consumers control over their personal information while helping reshape how industries access, use, and think about data. In this episode… The digital world often exposes individuals to risks through seemingly simple data points like phone numbers and emails. These identifiers can reveal a lot of personal information, making users vulnerable to phishing, spam, identity theft, and malicious AI-driven impersonation. As companies collect, share, and sell personal information more than ever, there is a pressing need for solutions that prioritize user control, privacy, and security. What steps can you take to safeguard your personal information? Companies like Cloaked are changing the game and offering individuals a way to regain control over their personal information by allowing users to create unique identifiers, like emails, phone numbers, and passwords, for every digital interaction. The platform also enables users to clean up past data footprints and limit future vulnerabilities while employing a siloed database architecture that keeps personal information secure even in the event of a system breach. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels chat with Arjun and Abhijay Bhatnagar, Co-founders of Cloaked, about how their platform addresses critical privacy challenges and empowers users to reclaim control of their personal information. Arjun and Abhijay share how Cloaked's features, like identity masking and password and passcode manager tools, help users navigate today's privacy and security complexities easily and confidently. They also provide actionable privacy tips, such as limiting permissions, and discuss how Cloaked aims to combat AI misuse.

Alan Chapell is the President of Chapell & Associates, a law firm serving the interactive technology, media, and advertising industries. He has served for 20 years as an outside counsel and privacy advisor to VC-funded AdTech and MarTech companies. Alan is also the Principal Analyst for The Chapell Report, a monthly continuous information research tool that helps investors and compliance teams understand the key privacy, competition, and regulatory trends driving the advertising and media marketplace. In this episode… Businesses often struggle to balance their privacy programs with the demands of evolving privacy laws and operational obligations. Privacy programs often reveal hidden vulnerabilities — what some call the "privacy underbelly" — that can expose companies to risks. With a growing patchwork of state privacy laws, businesses need to adopt flexible, proactive strategies to maintain compliance while aligning with business objectives. How can privacy and business teams collaborate to build strategic privacy programs? Privacy professionals need to bridge the gap between compliance and operational goals by clearly explaining liability risks to business teams while aligning privacy initiatives with organizational objectives. Leveraging privacy resources like The Chapell Report can provide actionable insights into evolving regulations, helping privacy and business teams simplify complex concepts to collaborate effectively and build trust with each other. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Alan Chapell, President of Chapell & Associates, about balancing privacy programs with business priorities and compliance obligations. Alan discusses strategies for navigating complex privacy regulations, finding hidden vulnerabilities in privacy programs, and aligning privacy efforts with business goals. He also explains the need to push back against his concept of "McPrivacy" — an oversimplification of privacy measures that can create risks in privacy programs.

Allie Hunter, author of Mothers Against Cyber Crime, is a cybersecurity awareness advocate, advisory board member at Savvy Cyber Kids, and mother. With a background in psychology, marketing, and behavioral science, she empowers parents to protect their families online. Her work blends storytelling with practical insights, making cyber safety accessible to everyone. In this episode… Cybersecurity awareness is not just for businesses — it's also essential for families navigating today's complex digital world. Children's online activities can expose families to cyber threats like hacking, data breaches, and privacy intrusions, with many parents unaware of the potential risks in everyday technology and digital platforms. From the overlooked risks of unsecured smart devices to gaming platforms and the rising threats of deepfakes and social engineering scams, parents face new threats impacting their children's safety and privacy. So, how can parents proactively take control of cybersecurity measures while fostering a safer online environment? Simple, yet actionable steps, like enabling two-factor authentication, regularly updating passwords, and fostering open communication with children about online activities are vital for managing their online presence safely. Combining these practices with cybersecurity awareness education equips parents with the tools they need to protect their children in today's ever-changing digital landscape. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels talk with Allie Hunter, author of Mothers Against Cybercrime and a cybersecurity advocate, about how parents can protect their children from cyber threats. Allie highlights common but underestimated threats, such as unsecured smart devices and online gaming vulnerabilities, offering practical tips for enhancing security measures at home. She also discusses her work with Savvy Cyber Kids and shares insights into the development of her "Hunter Method," a unique training approach that leverages real-life scenarios to help parents identify and respond to cyber threats effectively.

Alan L. Friel is Chair of Squire Patton Boggs' Data Privacy, Cybersecurity & Digital Assets Practice. He is tier-1 ranked by Chambers, and BTI Consulting Group has named Alan a Client Service All-Star, recognizing lawyers who stand above all others in delivering exceptional client service. In this episode… Evolving privacy regulations like the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) are reshaping the way companies approach data management and compliance. CCPA's proposed draft regulations would require certain businesses to conduct cybersecurity audits, privacy risk assessments, and implement governance surrounding automated decision-making and AI technologies. While these frameworks help protect consumer data, they also introduce operational challenges and increased expenses for companies. How can companies prepare for compliance while effectively managing data and reducing costs? Privacy compliance is more than a legal requirement — it's a vital part of sound business strategy. Navigating compliance obligations requires companies to adopt a proactive approach to data governance. Businesses need to implement good data hygiene practices and conduct privacy risk assessments to identify and mitigate risks. These processes help businesses maintain their data inventory, respond to consumer privacy rights requests, and manage information assets. However, the legal landscape remains complicated, with questions about whether some regulatory requirements may conflict with First Amendment protections. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Alan Friel, Chair of the Data Privacy, Cybersecurity & Digital Assets Practice at Squire Patton Boggs, about the costs, benefits, and legal implications of regulatory compliance. Alan explains why businesses should adopt privacy risk assessments as a best practice, regardless of ongoing legal uncertainties, and discusses the intersection of privacy regulations with free speech rights under the First Amendment. He emphasizes the importance of proactive data management practices and governance to navigate compliance challenges and position businesses for long-term success in a shifting regulatory environment.

Anna Hall is an educator, mother of two, and Co-founder of Embody, a privacy-forward menstrual health and wellness app. In this episode… As awareness grows around health data privacy, misconceptions about protecting menstrual health data remain widespread. That's because menstrual health data is often commodified and can be shared or sold without explicit user consent, exposing sensitive information to third parties. With recent legal changes affecting reproductive rights, there is a greater need than ever for secure, user-controlled solutions. What steps should companies take to prioritize and protect sensitive health data? In a rapidly changing health tech landscape, most regulations haven't adapted to cover personal wellness apps effectively, especially those designed for menstrual health tracking. Companies like Embody address this by implementing local encryption and avoiding default cloud storage, which safeguards privacy and encourages a user-first approach. By eliminating the need for logins and accounts, Embody limits data access, allowing users to track personal health information privately and securely. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels talk with Anna Hall, Co-founder of Embody, about developing a privacy- and security-focused menstrual health app. Anna shares the story behind Embody and how the app prioritizes user privacy by eliminating user logins and passwords, keeping user data stored offline and locally on user devices. She highlights misconceptions about menstrual health data privacy and shares how Embody's design directly addresses these challenges. With features like local encryption and plans to open-source their code, Embody aims to provide secure, user-controlled health tracking that upholds privacy standards.

Christin McMeley is the SVP and Chief Privacy and Data Strategy Officer at Comcast, a role that involves partnering across Comcast's business units and spearheading the execution of enterprise privacy and data governance strategies, focusing on responsible use of data and artificial intelligence. As an attorney, Christin is experienced in privacy compliance, public policy, and government affairs. In this episode… As companies navigate the fast-changing landscape of privacy regulations, many are focusing on integrating privacy practices into business strategies, made more complex by the rise of new technologies like generative AI. To maintain consumer trust and ensure compliance, companies need to understand how to align privacy obligations with business innovation. How can privacy and business teams collaborate to navigate this evolving space? For businesses to succeed, privacy can't work in isolation — it needs to be integrated with broader business strategies. Embedding privacy by design principles and fostering a culture of consumer trust are key to achieving this. Educating teams on privacy principles and building strong internal relationships ensures privacy becomes a natural part of the business workflow rather than an afterthought. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels talk with Christin McMeley, SVP & Chief Privacy and Data Strategy Officer at Comcast, about how privacy teams can collaborate with business units to address privacy risks. Christin highlights the importance of practices like privacy tabletop exercises, which allow teams to proactively address privacy concerns during product and service development. She stresses that integrating privacy into the company culture, along with the right mix of automation and human oversight, is key to long-term success.

Nick Kakolowski is the Senior Research Director at IANS Research, where he specializes in the managerial, leadership, risk management, privacy, and regulatory compliance components of the company's curriculum. In this episode… The role of the Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) is expanding. Many CISOs are now responsible for more than just security — they are also managing privacy, AI risk, and other critical business functions. Organizations like IANS are helping security teams navigate these changes by providing critical data on CISO compensation, budget trends, and organizational structures through its research and surveys. So, how can companies ensure their security leadership is equipped to align with broader business goals while managing these new responsibilities effectively? IANS focuses on helping CISOs and their teams address real-world security challenges through its faculty of industry practitioners. Through its annual CISO Compensation and Budget Survey, conducted in partnership with Artico Search, IANS uncovers valuable insights into compensation disparities, evolving CISO responsibilities, and how security roles are expanding to include privacy and AI risk management. By leveraging real-world data, IANS equips businesses with the information they need to build more resilient security programs and infosec teams. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Nick Kakolowski, Senior Research Director at IANS, about the CISO's expanding role. Nick shares valuable insights from IANS' research, highlighting how CISOs are taking on new responsibilities in areas like privacy, AI, and security governance. He underscores the growing importance of business and leadership skills for CISOs and emphasizes the need for collaboration across teams as boards increasingly turn to CISOs for security governance and risk management.

Jennifer Miller is Grammarly's General Counsel. She focuses on enabling Grammarly to grow and innovate while carefully managing business risk. Her responsibilities include navigating AI and regulation and scaling the company's managed business. Suha Can is Grammarly's CISO and VP of Engineering, leading global security, privacy, compliance, and identity for the company. He's dedicated to securing the data of Grammarly's over 30 million users and 70,000 teams at enterprises and organizations worldwide. In this episode… As AI continues to reshape the tech landscape, companies like Grammarly are navigating new challenges in balancing innovation with privacy and security. With advanced AI tools, businesses can improve user experiences, but they also need to manage privacy and security risks that come with it. Grammarly, known for its communication assistant that leverages AI, strongly emphasizes user trust by embedding transparency and user control at the core of its privacy and security strategy. So, how can companies in the AI space adopt similar practices, innovate responsibly, and stay ahead of evolving privacy and security risks? Grammarly champions transparency and has built a privacy and security program centered on user trust and control. By establishing governance frameworks, regularly reviewing their products for privacy, security, and AI-related risks, and maintaining collaborative communication between legal and technical teams, Grammarly proactively mitigates risks while staying compliant with regulations. The company also offers clear privacy practices through its public-facing web pages and ensures its contracts with customers and third-party vendors reflect the same principles of transparency. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels chat with Jennifer Miller, General Counsel, and Suha Can, CISO, of Grammarly about how the company has built a privacy and security program centered on trust and transparency. Jennifer and Suha discuss how they navigate AI advancements and regulatory challenges by prioritizing user control, conducting privacy and security audits, and fostering collaboration between legal and technical teams. They also emphasize the importance of proactive governance and responsible AI practices to keep pace with evolving regulatory landscapes.

Joe Jones serves as the Director of Research and Insights at the IAPP. Previously, he served as the UK Government's Deputy Head of Digital Trade, where he was responsible for digital policy. Joe also served as a private practice lawyer on international data issues. In this episode… Companies are grappling with the challenges of managing privacy, security, AI, and data governance in an increasingly complex regulatory environment. The IAPP's Organizational Digital Governance Report highlights the challenges businesses face due to "digital entropy" — caused by overlapping laws, rapid technological shifts, and cultural and socio-technical differences, emphasizing the need for organizations to align their governance structures to address these challenges. How can companies navigate these complexities while maintaining compliance and operational efficiency? The IAPP's digital governance report provides insights into how companies can adapt their structures and processes to meet the growing demands of digital governance. It outlines three varying approaches companies are using to navigate digital entropy: the analog model, where companies use their current structures while adding more tasks to existing teams; the augmented model, where companies create new committees or cross-functional teams to define overarching terms for digital governance and policy; and the aligned model, where companies have dedicated roles for digital governance. The report underscores the importance of moving toward a more aligned model, where privacy, security, and AI governance are streamlined under cohesive leadership. This involves empowering privacy teams, implementing regular audits, fostering collaboration across departments, and avoiding reliance on ad hoc committees to align with evolving privacy regulations. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels chat with Joe Jones, Director of Research and Insights at IAPP, about how companies can leverage insights from the IAPP Organizational Digital Governance Report to improve their digital governance frameworks. Joe explains how companies can stay ahead of regulatory changes by embracing more structured governance models. He also emphasizes the need for privacy professionals to act as enablers within organizations, offering guidance on leveraging data responsibly while navigating the growing complexity of privacy regulations.

Daniel B. Rosenzweig is the Founder and Principal Attorney at DBR Data Privacy Solutions, a boutique data privacy law firm. He advises clients on legal and technical compliance with data protection and privacy laws and counsels clients on the responsible use of AI, AdTech, and privacy-enhancing technologies. Dan's legal practice is unique in that he also codes and develops technical solutions to enhance his legal services. In this episode… As the AdTech landscape evolves, companies are facing new challenges with cookie alternatives like server-side technologies and alternative IDs. While these new tools offer improved targeting capabilities, they also bring risk, especially when it comes to managing opt-outs and tracking user consent. To preserve consumer trust and drive revenue, businesses need to fully understand how these advanced technologies work while adhering to applicable privacy laws. So, how can companies stay compliant while leveraging these technologies? Adopting alternative IDs, advanced matching, and server-side technologies offers new opportunities for businesses to enhance targeting while maintaining consumer trust. Still, companies need to carefully assess the risks and ensure proper implementation. Establishing a proper governance process, conducting regular audits and testing, maintaining transparency in privacy notices, and avoiding dark patterns are crucial steps for regulatory compliance and protecting consumer privacy. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels chat with Daniel Rosenzweig, Founder and Principal Attorney at DBR Data Privacy Solutions, about the challenges of balancing data privacy with AdTech solutions. Dan explains how businesses can implement these technologies without sacrificing consumer privacy by effectively managing consent platforms, auditing and testing technologies, and ensuring transparent data practices that align with regulations. He also emphasizes the importance of regular collaboration between legal, marketing, and technical teams to stay compliant with evolving regulations.

Rob Black is the Founder of Fractional CISO and has guided numerous companies in enhancing their security postures. With extensive experience in product and corporate security roles at prominent companies like PTC, Axeda, and RSA Security, Rob is recognized as a trusted authority in risk management and cybersecurity innovation. In this episode… As companies face increasing pressure to meet security and compliance demands, many are turning to AI to enhance their governance, risk, and compliance programs. Tools like ChatGPT and Claude can streamline processes such as summarizing reports and generating responses to security questionnaires. While these tools can improve efficiency, they can also produce inaccuracies, underscoring the importance of human oversight. How can companies use AI responsibly to enhance these programs? AI tools can save security teams a ton of time, but they're not reliable enough to replace human oversight. This means that companies need to establish clear guidelines and governance frameworks on AI usage to protect sensitive information and mitigate risks. By integrating these strategies, companies can build more resilient and compliant programs. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels talk with Rob Black, the Founder of Fractional CISO, about integrating AI into governance, risk, and compliance programs. Rob explores the benefits and risks of utilizing AI in these programs, emphasizing the need to blend AI with human oversight. He also emphasizes the need for companies to have a security-first mindset when implementing AI tools to reduce risk and ensure long-term success.

Arsen Kourinian is a Partner in Mayer Brown's AI Governance and Cybersecurity & Data Privacy practices. He advises clients on data privacy and AI laws and frameworks. Arsen has published numerous articles regarding nuanced issues in these fields, including a forthcoming book entitled Implementing a Global Artificial Intelligence Governance Program. In this episode… The growing number of global and state privacy laws and AI regulations is prompting companies to integrate fundamental frameworks into their AI governance programs. While the US lacks a comprehensive federal AI law, states like Colorado have begun implementing AI regulations that could serve as a model for future state-level standards. With seemingly fragmented regulations, how can companies effectively develop an AI governance program? A multi-regulatory approach to AI governance can be challenging for companies to navigate with regulations like the EU AI Act, Colorado's Artificial Intelligence Act, and international standards like ISO and NIST. While the regulatory landscape is patchy, harmonizing across various regulations and frameworks can help companies meet compliance obligations and reduce risk. This includes forming an AI governance committee, implementing a data governance plan, conducting risk assessments, documenting accountability with policies and procedures, and continuous monitoring and oversight of AI vendors. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Arsen Kourinian, Partner at Mayer Brown, about developing an AI governance program amid emerging global and state regulations. Arsen emphasizes incorporating key components and frameworks from various laws to develop AI governance programs. He also delves into the departments that assume responsibility for these programs and offers guidance on completing AI impact assessments, highlighting the importance of risk mitigation and understanding practical harms.

Darren Abernethy is a Shareholder in Greenberg Traurig's data, privacy, and cybersecurity practice. As an AdTech and data privacy attorney, he is licensed to practice law in California, New York, and Washington, DC. Darren holds seven IAPP Certified Information Privacy Professional, Manager, and Technologist certifications. In this episode… Talks about shifting away from third-party cookies is pushing companies to rethink their advertising strategies and adopt cookieless alternatives. As many companies explore other AdTech solutions like first-party data collection strategies, they need to evaluate their advertising practices to ensure alignment with evolving state and global privacy laws. How can businesses effectively implement alternative AdTech solutions while adhering to evolving compliance requirements? First-party data collection, contextual advertising, and CRM-based approaches present opportunities for businesses to refine their ad targeting strategies. However, these alternatives also require companies to ask probing questions when evaluating new technologies, such as how these solutions fit within evolving privacy laws and what vendor safeguards are needed. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels chat with Darren Abernethy, Shareholder at Greenberg Traurig, about the future of AdTech and data privacy in a world transitioning away from third-party cookies. Darren explains how businesses can take a privacy-first approach to implementing new AdTech solutions by proactively managing vendors and keeping privacy programs up to date. He underscores the importance of modernizing vendor assessments, updating contracts regularly, and maintaining proper documentation in case of regulatory scrutiny to build trust and mitigate risks.

Shanti Ariker is the Chief Legal Officer of JFrog (NASDAQ: FROG), where she leads the company's global legal policy development and compliance. She is a solution-creator with global legal expertise, leveraging more than 20 years of experience working with high-growth technology companies to act as a trusted business advisor to CEO and executive teams and public company Boards of Directors. In this episode… The rise in cyber risks is placing increased pressure on companies to closely examine their software and codes and integrate security measures into every stage of the software development process. And, with the SEC cyber rule requiring publicly traded companies to report material breaches, there's an increased need for companies to perform thorough due diligence on their vendors, especially those incorporating AI into their products. So, how can businesses protect their supply chains in such a volatile environment? Supply chain security is not a one-time task but an ongoing process that demands continuous integration of security throughout the software lifecycle. Companies like JFrog, a software supply chain platform, recognize this and utilize a security by design approach to help companies reduce cyber risk by embedding security protocols into every stage of its software design process, securing each piece of code at the binary level before it reaches the end user. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels chat with Shanti Ariker, the Chief Legal Officer at JFrog, about the complexities of securing the software supply chain in today's tech and regulatory landscapes. Shanti explains how JFrog embeds security by design principles into every stage of software development to help companies mitigate cyber risks, while enabling companies to conduct thorough due diligence on their suppliers' cybersecurity, legal, IT, and privacy practices. She also emphasizes the need for companies to implement a robust AI review process, particularly for third-party vendors incorporating AI into their products to gain a holistic review of the cybersecurity, data privacy, and regulatory compliance implications.

Omer Tene is a Partner in Goodwin's Technology group and Data, Privacy, and Cybersecurity practice. For the past two decades, he has consulted governments, regulatory agencies, and businesses on privacy, cybersecurity, and data management. Omer is also an Affiliate Scholar at the Stanford Center for Internet and Society and a Senior Fellow at the Future of Privacy Forum. Before Goodwin, he was the Chief Knowledge Officer at the IAPP. In this episode… The US privacy landscape is rapidly evolving, as more states enforce privacy regulations similar to California's comprehensive privacy law. In 2025, eight new privacy laws will come into force — even states without comprehensive privacy laws are imposing regulations to protect consumer data. Notably, New York, where the New York Attorney General recently established guidelines around cookies and tracking technologies emphasizing the need for companies to properly categorize cookies and configure consent mechanisms. The NY AG has also proposed regulations surrounding kids' privacy, like the Child Data Protection Act, that will impact how companies process children's data. As the US privacy landscape becomes an increasingly complex web of regulations, how can companies prepare for what lies ahead? Beyond New York, privacy regulations around kids' data are gaining momentum across the US, with laws like the California's Age-Appropriate Design Code aiming to protect minors from harmful content. Regulations on kids' privacy include everything from age verifications that restrict the sale of minors' data to design codes that protect children from exposure to harmful internet content. These guidelines have garnered pushback in states like California, where businesses claim violation of the First Amendment, consequently delaying enforcement. Regardless, companies should prepare to respond to these regulations that govern the collection, processing, and sale of children's data. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels welcome Omer Tene, a Partner at Goodwin, to explore the complexities of evolving privacy regulations, specifically on children's data. Omer shares his insights on the nuances of various privacy regulations, ethical challenges surrounding children's data protection, and the potential future of privacy legislation. Omer maintains that although some regulations have not yet been enforced, companies should take a proactive approach adapting to these new regulations as the privacy landscape shifts.

Shoshana Rosenberg is the Senior Vice President, Chief AI Governance and Privacy Officer at WSP, one of the world's leading engineering and professional services firms. She is also the Founder of SafePorter, Co-founder of Women in AI Governance, and a Strategic Program Advisor at Logical AI Governance. Shoshana is a seasoned attorney with over 16 years of experience in international data protection law, a US Navy veteran, and a passionate advocate for social entrepreneurship and inclusion. In this episode… In the ever-evolving and largely unsettled AI landscape, one certainty remains — the need for companies to develop governance programs to navigate and address the organizational impacts of AI. Such governance accounts for client, stakeholder, and employee expectations for AI use, as well as risk management and overarching visions for innovation. But the process involves more than simply understanding AI tools and vendors. So where do companies begin when developing AI governance programs? AI governance isn't another compliance program where decisions are made in a vacuum. Instead, it's about building a centralized intelligence function across various teams to identify and understand AI tools, use cases, and vendors. A sustainable AI governance program evolves with the changing regulatory and technology landscape and is monitored and evaluated by the governance committee and other organizational stakeholders. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels sit down with Shoshana Rosenberg, the SVP, Chief AI Governance and Privacy Officer at WSP, to talk about how companies can build an AI governance program in an evolving landscape. Shoshana emphasizes the need for a proactive approach to AI governance and recommends regularly evaluating AI tools and use cases while creating and adapting associated risk profiles. This establishes a foundation that allows companies to keep moving forward, regardless of how business needs change and the AI landscape shifts.

Amy Bogac is the Chief Information Security Officer at Elevate Textiles. As a seasoned security leader, she has over 20 years of experience in information security, IT governance, and compliance. She holds an MBA from Lake Forest Graduate School of Management and a CISSP certification from ISC2. Previously, Amy was the CISO for The Clorox Company during a significant cyber incident. In this episode… The concept of disaster recovery has evolved significantly in recent years, urging companies to evaluate their security capabilities and infrastructure to plan for cyber events and specific scenarios. While publicly traded companies have some measures in place to restore data and minimize disruptions, privately held companies may not be as prepared. And, as new SEC cyber disclosure rules target third-party risk management, this places pressure on privately held companies to disclose breaches. How can companies maintain strong data resilience and incident response planning? With cyber events becoming increasingly disastrous, having a business disaster recovery plan that can recover data and resume operations is more critical than ever. Yet, sometimes the affected data isn't always trustworthy, especially if the breach occurred among third-party vendors. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels chat with Amy Bogac, the CISO at Elevate Textiles, about the critical need for businesses to revisit their disaster recovery plans and integrate data resilience strategies. Amy stresses going back to the basics by regularly reviewing and updating DR plans and ensuring that all business processes are documented and tested. She also explains the magnitude of risks companies face today, highlighting the need for stakeholder and company-wide involvement in training and incident response planning.

Ralph Pasquariello is a Senior Partner at The Tech Collective, a technology solutions company. He works with the FBI, GBI, and US Secret Service on the Atlanta Cyber Fraud Task Force. Ralph is also the former Executive Committee Chairman for the Tech400 Cyber Symposium and an advisor to the Georgia Tech Research Institute. He has served and chaired on numerous boards and organizations. Ralph's cyber liability expertise has qualified him to present at over 100 events. For the past 14 years, he has moderated and spoke at dozens of conferences and panels on cyber liability and data breach risk management. He's hosted educational seminars on cyber exposure for professional associations of all industries, including operational technology and intellectual technology. In this episode… When a company undergoes a cyber attack, the repercussions are costly. From remediation and replacement costs to third-party damages and operational interruptions, cyber insurance aims to cover expenses businesses incur and help them stay afloat after a cyber event. Cyber insurance is a crucial part of security, yet many businesses remain underinsured, believing that compliance with third-party vendors and/or client contracts is sufficient. What coverage might your company be missing, and how can you ensure it's optimal? Cyber insurance coverage may include more than basic security provisions, encompassing additional elements such as commercial crime, social engineering, ransomware, and fraudulent transfers. As cyber insurance requirements have become increasingly strict over the years — The Tech Collective helps companies navigate complex insurance applications, analyze optimal insurance coverage based on business-specific needs and risks, and perform a comparative industry analysis. In this week's episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels welcome Ralph Pasquariello, Senior Partner at The Tech Collective, to talk about how companies can ensure optimal cyber insurance coverage. Ralph emphasizes that business security measures and contractual compliance are not equivalent to proper cyber insurance coverage. He also shares instances where insurance companies may deny claims and provides insight into carriers changing requirements.

Alexandria (Lexi) Lutz is the Senior Corporate Counsel at Nordstrom, where she advises the company on legal matters related to privacy, cybersecurity, and AI. Prior to Nordstrom, Lexi worked for a large national hotel brand and an international food service company. She is a Certified Information Privacy Professional in the US and Europe and holds the Charlotte Business Journal award for Outstanding Corporate Counsel in a large company. In this episode… 19 states have passed privacy laws, fundamentally altering how companies collect, share, and sell consumer data. And, as consumers become more aware of their privacy rights and how companies and their third-party vendors handle their data, retailers are at the forefront adapting their privacy programs, due diligence processes, and third-party contractual agreements to meet compliance requirements and maintain customer trust. What's more, the new SEC cyber rules place even more security requirements on retailers' relationships with third-party vendors, further complicating expectations. How can retailers navigate this complex regulatory landscape while providing the best experiences for their customers? Adapting privacy programs to evolving regulations is an intricate process requiring a company to evaluate its operations, size, and resources. No matter the circumstances, it's crucial to maintain control over consumer information and ensure all third-party vendor contracts are up to date and transparent. And as retailers incorporate generative AI into their online and in-store shopping experiences, they should take extra steps to ensure personalization, efficiency, and protection are not lost. In this week's episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels chat with Alexandria (Lexi) Lutz, the Senior Corporate Counsel at Nordstrom, how retailers can navigate privacy challenges, leverage AI, and maintain consumer trust in an increasingly complex regulatory environment. Lexi highlights how these regulations — including the SEC cyber rules — impact everything from third-party vendor due diligence and contractual requirements to in-house privacy programs and consumer data sharing and selling. She also discusses the implications of generative AI in retail, maintaining that it should enhance the shopping experience rather than replace human input.

Julie Rubash is the General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer at Sourcepoint, a data privacy software company. She coordinates legal efforts for Sourcepoint and ensures that the product suite innovates and expands to meet the demands created by the ever-changing regulatory landscape. Julie brings over 15 years of legal experience and has worked at both law firms and as internal counsel in the media, technology, and advertising sectors. Prior to Sourcepoint, Julie served as the VP of Legal at the advertising platform Nativo. In this episode… As companies head towards a cookieless future, advertisers are devising clever ways to target consumers, some of which may risk infringing on privacy laws and privacy rights obligations. While companies are creating universal solutions to comply with evolving privacy laws, they may overlook nuanced targeting methods that use consumer data differently than cookies. The stakes are high for any company engaging in these emerging targeting methods, as businesses must recognize the privacy risks and carefully blend legal requirements with their marketing efforts to protect consumer data. Some of the most innovative companies have embraced privacy considerations as a marketing touchpoint, working with consumers to build trust and provide clear options to manage their preferences. Companies like Sourcepoint recognize this need and that privacy obligations and consent solutions are not one-size-fits-all, so they offer flexible privacy software solutions that allow companies to tailor privacy programs based on their unique business goals, circumstances, and legal requirements. In this week's episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Julie Rubash, the General Counsel and Chief Privacy Officer at Sourcepoint, about the ins and outs of managing consent as new targeting methods emerge. Julie stresses the need for customized consent solutions that align with company principles and privacy regulations while allowing consumers to manage their preferences. She also discusses how privacy professionals can recognize and mitigate the risks of new targeting methods, the importance of understanding the data you're collecting, and why combining marketing and privacy goals is paramount in this evolving ad tech landscape.

Craig Schwartz is the Head of Legal at Covariant, an AI and robotics company out of Berkeley. He is a veteran tech lawyer with 20 years of experience at the intersection of emerging technology and regulated markets. Craig previously worked for Palantir Technologies, where he led the USG Partnerships team and served as Lead Counsel for the Intelligence Community business. Now at Covariant, Craig is part of a team building foundational models for the physical world, focusing on automation and AI integration in industrial settings. In this episode… Europe's aging workforce is fueling a growing demand for automated labor solutions, with US-based AI robotics companies stepping in to fill the gap. But this trend isn't just about technological innovation. For US-based companies entering the European market, success in this landscape requires a deep understanding of product capabilities and the global regulatory environment. To stay ahead, companies must make informed decisions on ethical AI use and on how to handle data — from collection to storage to use — without stepping on any global regulatory toes. With emerging regulations like the EU AI Act and Internet of Things (IoT) legislation, it's now more important than ever for companies to integrate privacy considerations into product design from the start. By adopting privacy-by-design principles early on, companies like Covariant can meet anticipated global compliance requirements and create operational efficiencies, demonstrating their proactive approach to these regulatory challenges. In this week's episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels chat with Craig Schwartz, the Head of Legal at Covariant, who shares invaluable insights on navigating the complex intersection of AI, robotics, and international privacy regulations. Craig explains the steps Covariant takes to stay ahead of global privacy regulations. He also discusses the critical need for legal professionals in tech to immerse themselves in technical product knowledge, the challenges of applying existing global privacy laws, such as GDPR, to cutting-edge technologies, and the potential impact of antitrust policies on innovation in the AI space.

Award-winning data ethics and responsible media luminary Arielle Garcia is the Director of Intelligence at Check My Ads. In her role, she partners with businesses and organizations to lead research and develop standards and solutions that foster a healthier market, protect civil and human rights, and promote industry accountability. A steadfast advocate for transparency, trust, and fairness in the digital ecosystem, she has advised 100+ marketers on the evolving digital landscape, driving the development and adoption of trustworthy and effective media and data strategies for the benefit of brands and their customers. She was previously the Chief Privacy and Responsibility Officer at UM Worldwide, and she holds a J.D. from Fordham University School of Law.. In 2021, Arielle was inducted into the AAF Advertising Hall of Achievement. She has also been recognized by Crain's New York Business "20 in their 20s," a Cynopsis "Top Woman in Media" in 2021, and a "Top Woman in Media & Ad Tech" by AdExchanger in 2023. In this episode… In the intricate world of ad tech, the exchange of data has become as common as trading stocks on Wall Street. Marketers now have advanced tools to pinpoint their target audience, but this data trove also brings significant privacy concerns. Brands are often challenged with the privacy implications of tracking, data selling, and sharing. And that's understandable - it's a complex web of information, and it's not always clear where consumer data ends up. With the imminent demise of third-party cookies, companies are exploring new methods to sustain behavioral targeting like data clean rooms, conversion APIs, and alternative identifiers, raising questions about their privacy implications. That's why Check My Ads is on a mission to keep the ad tech ecosystem in check by calling out false narratives and defunding bad actors that spread misinformation to drive systemic change. In today's episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels welcome Arielle Garcia, the Director of Intelligence at Check My Ads, to discuss some of the biggest privacy challenges facing the ad tech ecosystem today. Arielle highlights the fundamental conflict between ad tech business models and business privacy obligations, emphasizing the need for a shift toward consumer-centric approaches. She also shares the implications of third-party cookie deprecation, critiques current and emerging advertising business models, and discusses the critical need for implementing secure and effective media and data practices to benefit companies and their customers.

Angeline Corvaglia is the Founder of Data Girl and Friends, where she is committed to helping young people thrive in an AI-driven digital world. Her strategy encompasses three key pillars: privacy and security awareness, critical thinking skills, and balancing the benefits and risks of AI. Angeline is on a mission to equip young minds with the tools they need to navigate and succeed in the ever-evolving digital landscape. In this episode… With rapid advancements in technology and AI, it is now more crucial than ever to protect children, particularly girls, online. Many parents are unaware of the full extent of digital and social media threats, such as AI-driven chatbots used by predators to manipulate children. How can parents protect their children, especially their daughters, and educate them about online risks? To combat these risks, parents should activate privacy settings and restrict information sharing on electronic devices. Parents should activate enable privacy settings and restrict information sharing on electronic devices. And with resources like Data Girl and Friends, parents can engage in meaningful conversations with their children, empowering them to become digitally savvy and take charge of their online privacy. In this week's episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels chat with Angeline Corvaglia, the Founder of Data Girl and Friends, about protecting girls online. She shares actionable insights on shielding kids from intrusive data practices and online predators and discusses the underlying societal pressures that amplify these risks especially for girls.

Christina Shannon is an accomplished Chief Information Officer (CIO) in the CPG chemical manufacturing sector. With a career spanning over two decades, she transitioned from senior security leadership roles in Fortune 100 companies to executive technology leadership positions in mid-to-large-sized, private equity-owned firms. Christina's journey includes serving as a Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) four times, in which she gained deep experience in developing effective strategies to address enterprise cyber risk across various industries. As a CIO, she focuses on leveraging technology to drive innovation, improve operational efficiency, and secure critical digital assets in the CPG chemical manufacturing industry. In this episode… Understanding the multifaceted role of a CIO offers valuable insights into the synergy between technology and business operations, highlighting the importance of operational efficiency, robust cybersecurity measures, and comprehensive privacy controls. How does one effectively navigate these complex responsibilities? As a Chief Information Officer for the chemical manufacturing company, Christina Shannon emphasizes the need for strategic alignment between technology and business objectives. To be effective, CIOs must grasp the broader business implications of their decisions, not just the technical and security aspects. This involves developing a framework that integrates effective AI policies, ensures privacy compliance, and addresses operational security risks. Christina Shannon, CIO at KIK Consumer Products, joins Jodi and Justin Daniels on this week's episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security to discuss her role as a CIO, offering practical strategies for leveraging technology to drive innovation while safeguarding digital and physical assets. Christina describes the process of shifting from a technical mindset to an operational viewpoint to align technology with business goals, understand risk exposures, and manage privacy and security initiatives effectively. The conversation also covers how organizations can derive value from their security measures beyond checking off compliance requirements.

Aaron Mendelsohn is currently Director - Privacy Officer at the LEGO Group in Denmark, where he leads data protection and privacy compliance within the Digital Technologies teams, including LEGO.com, LEGO Insiders, LEGO Marketing, and LEGO Retail. Prior to joining the LEGO Group, Aaron held leadership roles in data protection, privacy, and information security, including creating and managing global data protection and privacy programs at two Fortune 500 companies In this episode… Establishing a functional privacy framework within an organization is crucial for maintaining compliance and safeguarding data. It goes beyond simply adhering to legal regulations. Effective privacy management involves understanding how privacy laws and privacy initiatives work together to impact overall business operations. So, how can companies seamlessly integrate privacy into their day-to-day activities? Customizing privacy objectives to align with a company's individual needs, culture, and risk profile is imperative. To be successful in this approach, privacy professionals must be flexible and strategic, tailoring their strategies to align with organizational priorities through comprehensive policies, privacy-by-design programs, training, and other initiatives. In today's episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels welcome Aaron Mendelsohn to discuss practical strategies for operationalizing privacy within organizations. Aaron emphasizes integrating people, processes, and technology to achieve effective privacy management. The discussion also underscores the value of targeted privacy training tailored to specific business roles and how privacy professionals can successfully adapt and evolve privacy strategies as business needs change.

Kabir Barday's career journey illustrates the power of innovation in privacy. As the Founder, CEO, and Chairman of OneTrust, he has transformed the landscape of privacy automation. He holds a Fellow of Information Privacy with the IAPP, the highest designation of a privacy professional, and is a Henry Crown Fellow at the Aspen Institute. With a BS in Computer Science from the Georgia Institute of Technology, where he serves on the Georgia Tech Advisory Board (GTAB), Kabir continues to lead OneTrust in setting new standards for privacy automation and responsible AI. In this episode… Many companies struggle with responsible use of data, AI, and creating privacy programs. From ethical data use to complying with evolving privacy laws and using new AI tools, it can be challenging for companies, especially with manual processes. How can businesses and privacy professionals ease the burden of manual privacy work and keep up with regulations? Trust has become a fundamental societal trend, so businesses must facilitate trusted interactions with customers and stakeholders by embedding privacy controls into the user experience. Fortunately, there is OneTrust, the company revolutionizing responsible use of data, AI, and privacy management with its proprietary software that automates privacy processes, helps organizations comply with regulations, and builds trust with customers. Kabir Bardy, Founder, CEO, and Chairman of the Board at OneTrust, joins Jodi and Justin Daniels on this week's episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security to discuss OneTrust's innovative approach to privacy, automation, and AI. Kabir shares AI and privacy trends from Trust Week 2024, how OneTrust champions responsible use of data and AI, and how companies can evolve their privacy programs at various maturity levels.

Charlotte Baker is the CEO and Co-founder of Digital Hands, a leading cybersecurity services provider. Under Charlotte's leadership, Digital Hands has won numerous industry awards, with the most recent in 2023, which includes "Most Innovative MSSP": at CyberDefenseCon and Inc's "Power Partner of Privacy and Security." With a 100% US-based delivery model, Digital Hands' clients received unparalleled speed in threat detection and incident response. In this episode… The recent security regulations and SEC cyber rules have shifted companies' focus from risking fines to maintaining mandatory compliance. While these regulations force businesses to adopt stringent security and ethical data privacy practices, some privately held companies are turning a blind eye. What strategic measures can businesses implement to comply with these regulations? Many privately held companies don't understand that regardless of their size, they must adhere to new SEC rules and thoroughly review security contract addendums to avoid breach response hijacks by publicly traded companies. Companies also need to understand that compliance involves more than just reviewing security addendums or publishing a privacy policy on their website. They must prove they follow these policies. Even when companies have cybersecurity solutions, follow the rules, and achieve compliance, they may still get breached. That's why companies like Digital Hands aim to get ahead of every threat. With its "get there first" approach to security, Digital Hands maintains speed and flexibility to execute security solutions, taking a proactive approach to compliance. In today's She Said Privacy/He Said Security episode, Jodi and Justin Daniels welcome Charlotte Baker, the CEO of Digital Hands, to discuss the strategic measures businesses can implement to comply with security regulations. Charlotte emphasizes the need for multi-factor authentication, the benefits of avoiding point solutions, and the importance of having a strategic roadmap for security maturity.

Gretchen Herault is Chief Privacy Officer at Randstad USA and the global job board Monster.com. She has held several privacy leadership roles, including Chief Privacy Officer at Haven Healthcare, HIPAA Privacy Officer at GE Healthcare, and Chief Privacy Officer of Nuance Communications. In this episode… Since the introduction of CCPA and as of this recording there are just under two dozen privacy laws either signed or about to be, altering how companies manage consumer data.As compliance becomes increasingly urgent, how can businesses structure their privacy programs around these laws? Gretchen Herault manages Randstad USA's privacy program, collaborating with a cross-functional team of legal and business professionals to develop comprehensive strategies and operational solutions. As a result, Randstad's privacy program takes a proactive approach and adapts to new regulations by aligning with California's strict privacy standards. This simplifies compliance efforts and prepares the company for upcoming laws. In today's She Said Privacy/He Said Security episode, Jodi and Justin Daniels engage in a thought-provoking conversation with Gretchen Herault, the Chief Privacy Officer of Randstad USA and Monster.com, about building and operationalizing privacy programs. They discuss how to develop privacy programs under a growing number of privacy laws, regulating company AI use, and Gretchen's advice for evaluating and building privacy teams.

Michael Moore is the Chief Privacy Officer at Lacework, handling privacy and cybersecurity, product counseling, transactions, intellectual property strategy, and open-source software. He holds the IAPP privacy qualifications of CIPP-US, CIPP-E, CIPP-C, CIPM, and CIPT. Michael is also an inventor on 10 patents and author of over 20 published articles. In this episode… Cloud solutions are immensely helpful and strategic tools for companies, offering ubiquitous and immediate access to stored data. The benefits are abundant, but so are the dangers. Cloud software's vulnerabilities stem from the same features that make it valuable, making it a prime target for privacy and security threats in a centralized space. That's why companies like Lacework are tackling this issue with a tile-based cloud security platform that detects data and identity risks to protect against both known and unknown threats. How can your company amplify its cloud security to stay ahead in the evolving threat landscape? In this episode of the She Said Privacy/He Said Security Podcast, Jodi and Justin Daniels are joined by Michael Moore, the Chief Privacy Officer at Lacework, to discuss security and privacy for the cloud. They discuss the modern concerns, how Lacework helps companies, the increasing threats companies face, and Michael's personal privacy tips for anyone and everyone.

Richy Glassberg is the CEO and Co-founder of SafeGuard Privacy, a company established in 2019 to help businesses manage privacy compliance with effectiveness and efficiency. He is a digital media veteran with more than 25 years of experience. Richy has led seven startups and held executive roles at renowned brands and businesses, such as CNN, MTVN, and Turner Broadcasting. In this episode… Every professional sector benefits from its regulatory and professional organizations, which hold any given industry up to higher standards and harmonize processes. As concerns over privacy and security intensify, so does the need for these types of organizations to offer support. For digital marketing, the Interactive Advertising Bureau (IAB) plays a pivotal role by championing the interests of media and marketing professionals in the modern era. Navigating compliance remains a burning issue, and many companies are lost on how to address it. That's why the IAB partnered with SafeGuard Privacy on the IAB Vendor Diligence platform to help make it easier for companies to perform vendor due diligence. Now you can learn from leading organizations and experts on what it takes to stay ahead of the curve. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels chat with Richy Glassberg, Co-founder and CEO of SafeGuard Privacy, on ad tech, compliance, and the IAB's role. They delve into Richy's extensive career in media, tackle pressing compliance issues in digital advertising, explore the impact of Demand Side Platforms (DSPs), and discuss the future trajectory of the industry.

Bryson Bort is the CEO and Founder of SCYTHE, a threat emulation platform. He is Co-founder of GRIMM, a cybersecurity consultancy and ICS Village, a 501c3 for industrial control security systems. He is recognized as a Top 50 in Cyber by Business Insider and SANS Difference Maker Awards' Innovator of the Year. In this episode… Any security or privacy protocol comes with a plan, and every plan fits into a larger strategy. Coordinating a large-scale strategy while maintaining the finer details is more complicated than it sounds. It helps to have professionals experienced not only in security, but also in strategy in general. Bryson Bort has translated much of his military experience into cybersecurity. His team-forward, offensive mindset has been the foundation of his consulting service and the SCYTHE tool. This framework has proven useful for many notable companies, and it could also work in your arsenal. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Bryson Bort, the CEO and Founder of SCYTHE, to discuss his offensive cybersecurity strategy. They talk about the issues with training, the problems SCYTHE solves, learning about ransomware, and his previous work with Target. They also touch on Bryson's process for grabbing and keeping attention.

Svetlana Braunscheidel is the General Counsel and VP of Operations at PNG Cyber, a forensic investigations and remediation business. In her role, she deals in digital forensics, incident response, threat actor communications, and cyber risk compliance services. Her previous experience spans executive operations, business development, and national security fields as a legal expert. In this episode… Cybersecurity is more than a corporate issue, bleeding directly into ever-evolving federal and state legislation. Legal protections can be immensely beneficial, but can also be equally confusing and opaque. As new SEC rules and regulations are put into place, how should businesses best adapt? Svetlana Braunscheidel is a professional privacy and security expert who helps companies navigate these exact issues. Her advice includes nimble action, keeping up with trends, and utilizing the knowledge of other experts to ensure compliance. In this episode of She Said Security/He Said Privacy, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Svetlana Braunscheidel, the General Counsel and VP of Operations at PNG Cyber, on the topic of cybersecurity after new SEC regulations. The three touch on current laws and recent additions, how these changes affect privacy, and what businesses should do to respond.

Judy Titera is the owner of J Titera Solutions, where she provides privacy and security consulting services. She is also a faculty member of IANS Research and serves as Independent Director on the Mitsui Sumitomo Transverse Insurance board. Judy retired from USAA, where she served as the Chief Privacy Officer. She now spends her free time participating in professional and speaking engagements. In this episode… In a vacuum, privacy concerns are a simple matter of ethics and logistics. In reality, the structure of most businesses makes privacy a far more complex topic. With so many executives and experts involved in implementation, how can you communicate effectively? For companies with a board of directors, speaking with boardrooms is a key opportunity to make your voice heard. Talking with executive leadership requires tact, skill, and knowledge. If you learn from professionals who have been in the same situation, you can have an advantage in communicating. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels have an informative conversation with Judy Titera, Owner of J Titera Solutions, about privacy professionals in the boardroom. They discuss key strategies, why healthy working relationships are so vital, and what privacy success looks like. Judy discusses her career and explains how she was able to become involved with various boards of directors.

Alysa Hutnik is the Chair of the Privacy and Information Security practice at Kelley Drye. She is one of the nation's leading ad tech attorneys, active in the industry, and well-versed in the unique legal challenges faced by advertisers and data-focused companies. Alysa has spent the past two decades working with and growing Kelley Drye & Warren LLP, an Am Law 200 law firm of more than 350 lawyers and other professionals across the US. In this episode… Advertisers have a host of new and advanced tools to better target their audience. While this is a lucrative opportunity for companies, many of them utilize data closely tied to privacy concerns. The line is growing increasingly thin between ethical and unethical usage. How can both companies and consumers stay safe in the process? Experts in the field work tirelessly to keep up with technology and legislation. As litigation unfolds, the future of ad tech is being decided in real time, necessitating the help of legal experts who have a firm grasp of this rapidly shifting environment. Here are some of the most crucial pieces to the puzzle. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels interview Alysa Hutnik, the Chair of the Privacy and Information Security practice at Kelley Drye & Warren LLP, to discuss pixel litigation and ad tech. They break down what is currently happening in the courts, common mistakes companies are making, and the complications introduced by AI in advertising.

Jordan Smith is the VP of Privacy Compliance for Peloton Interactive and is responsible for their global privacy program. Before joining Peloton, Jordan built compliance and global data privacy programs for startups as well as publicly traded companies. Jordan's resumé includes the development of policies for regulatory oversight, data privacy, fraud, brand safety, and social responsibility. He is a member of the International Association of Privacy Professionals and is a Certified Information Privacy Professional for the United States. In this episode… In the modern era, patchwork privacy regulations and policies are insufficient for the increasing demand and constant changes. Having a robust program is essential, but for larger businesses, this grows exponentially more difficult to build. On a global scale, the proposition can be outright exhausting. For these large corporations, elite privacy experts are putting their minds together to keep up with the changing tides. Companies such as Peloton deal with personal information, health data, financial details, and much more. Learn directly from professionals to see how they handle all of these variables. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels talk with Jordan Smith, the Vice President of Privacy Compliance at Peloton, about building privacy programs on a global scale. They discuss how to work across several internal teams, handling unique privacy needs, and the greatest challenges facing professionals today.

Owen Denby is the General Counsel of SecurityScorecard, a late stage VC backed cybersecurity company. He is a veteran of SaaS technology startups and a corporate M&A lawyer by training. Additionally, he is a Charter Member of TechGC — an independent, invitation-only, peer community for general counsels. In this episode… Every organization and business wants to increase their security, but how do you quantify the change? Security is a complex, multi-faceted topic where almost anything can go wrong. Many companies do their best, but have no clear measurement for how safe they and their customers truly are. For this reason, security experts can run thorough tests, and even simplify that analysis into a digestible and familiar medium. SecurityScorecard lives up to its name by providing a scorecard and offering risk management options. This approach can expose weaknesses and lead to a better understanding of your security needs. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels invite Owen Denby, General Counsel at SecurityScorecard, onto the show to learn more about quantifying cybersecurity. They discuss how the software measures risks, how new SEC regulations enter the equation, and regular pitfalls that companies face.

Bill Piwonka is the Chief Marketing Officer for Exterro, a data risk management and privacy platform. Over the past 30 years, he has led marketing teams and initiatives spanning strategy, product marketing, product management, demand generation, and business development. As a semi-retired tech executive, he also spends his time as a philanthropist, mentor, and board member. In this episode… Data has become an all-consuming subject in business, with modern technology affording a comprehensive view of all kinds of data. With data retention, information is easier to access now than ever, but that power comes with valid concerns and questions. So how can you mitigate such high levels of risk and complexity? Companies such as Exterro are working to keep a tighter rein on data retention and infrastructure. Topics of e-discovery, privacy, digital forensics, and data governance are vital for compliance and user security. Learn how these concerns are being addressed by leading professionals today. this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Bill Piwonka, the Chief Marketing Officer at Exterro, on the subject of data retention and how it relates to privacy. They go step-by-step through the pressing concerns, how companies like Exterro seek to help, how laws play into the equation, and keeping up with the lightning-fast pace of AI development.

Titania Jordan is the Chief Marketing Officer and Chief Parent Officer of Bark Technologies, an online safety company that helps nearly seven million kids stay safe online and in real life. She is a renowned thought leader on digital parenting, contributing to pieces in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, The New York Times, Huffington Post, USA Today, and many more. Titania is the author of Parenting in a Tech World, a bestseller featured in the 2020 documentary Childhood 2.0. She founded Parenting in a Tech World, a Facebook group of more than 450,000 members where parents discuss raising kids in the digital age. In this episode… Privacy is already a pressing issue for the general population, but the topic is exponentially important for children. Kids have unprecedented access to the internet and all the dangers it entails. Combined with the advent of AI in the mainstream, parents need to be more careful than ever. Fortunately, there are people helping make the internet safer for children. Companies like Bark Technologies offer comprehensive parental controls that get to the heart of the problem. For children to thrive, they need more protections for their safety and their privacy. Parents need to be aware of the issues in modern society and what they can do to counteract them. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels interview Titania Jordan, the Chief Marketing Officer and Chief Parent Officer of Bark Technologies, to discuss privacy and protection for children. They delve into the current dangers facing children online, how AI fits into the equation, and how Bark works to help. They also touch on the importance of digital citizenship and how the law applies to children's privacy.

Jay Averitt is the Senior Privacy Product Manager and a Privacy Engineer at Microsoft. He began his career as a software engineer and also attended law school, practicing for 10 years as a corporate attorney specializing in software license agreements. Jay was exposed to privacy during his time as an attorney and has since become an expert in the field. In this episode… The privacy space is filled with litigation and ethical deliberation; much of the conversation is fixated on policy rather than the technical elements. However, the technical pieces are just as important and can sometimes fly under the radar. For privacy professionals, this is known as privacy engineering. The methodologies, tools, and techniques of privacy engineering help put ideas into motion. The field is rapidly evolving and is currently being defined by experts. With so much still left to figure out, what do you need to know about the topic? In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels interview Jay Averitt, Senior Privacy Product Manager and Privacy Engineer at Microsoft, to discuss the key points of privacy engineering. The three discuss the burgeoning field, AI and security, working with companies, and collaboration across unique teams. They also talk about how to highlight the importance of privacy to others.

Keir Lamont is the Director for U.S. Legislation at the Future of Privacy Forum. In this position, he supports research and independent analysis concerning federal, state, and local consumer privacy laws and regulations. His background includes privacy and policy positions at The Ohio State University's Moritz College of Law and the Computer & Communications Industry Association. In this episode… In the United States, there is a constant tension between federal and state laws. The intersection of the two has been a constant source of consternation for many regulators and litigators over the years. This is especially true for privacy laws. As each state is defining and redefining their privacy regulations, it becomes more crucial than ever to stay on top of changes. These shifts are far from random — patterns emerge from states influencing others with their approach to privacy and data. Studying these movements can inform regulators and help prepare for the future — here is what the experts are saying on the matter. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels speak with Keir Lamont, the Director for U.S. Legislation at The Future of Privacy Forum, to learn more about privacy laws at the state level. They go through the unique trends, patchwork legislation, the precedent set by Washington's My Health My Data Act, and what regulators should know going into the future.

Joe Toscano is the Founder and CEO of DataGrade, a technology company helping companies discover, analyze, and manage data privacy risk. He has advised US Attorney Generals on Facebook and Google antitrust cases, helped shape privacy law across multiple states, and worked with large organizations such as the World Economic Forum. In addition to his work at DataGrade, Joe was featured in the Netflix documentary The Social Dilemma, and he is an international keynote speaker known for his TEDx Talk "Want to Work for Google? You Already Do." Joe is also Senior Fellow at The Diplomatic Courier and a contributing author for Forbes. In this episode… Privacy and social engineering have become deeply integrated into modern society. The average person is unaware of the complex systems around them every day — privacy risk management has become a necessity for businesses and people alike. So what should everyone know as the world enters a new age of data? The best start is awareness. Thanks to documentaries such as The Social Dilemma, people are looking into their relationship to data and privacy. For businesses, more privacy and strategy is required. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels are joined by Joe Toscano, the CEO and Founder of DataGrade, to talk about technology and privacy in personal and corporate settings. They break down Joe's role in The Social Dilemma, discuss his TED Talk, what DataGrade does, and what people should know about their own everyday privacy.

Ben Brook is the CEO and Co-founder of Transcend, a company helping the world's largest companies control their data by simplifying compliance, unlocking strategic growth, and improving business resilience. Prior to co-founding Transcend, Ben studied computer science, astrophysics, and neuroscience at Harvard University. Originally from Toronto, Canada, he is a passionate and award-winning filmmaker. In this episode… Privacy compliance is a necessity for businesses, but can often be a hindrance. It requires time, attention, money, and knowledge to keep up with regulations and track data effectively. Some platforms can make this process easier, but how do you select the right one? The list of vendors is steadily growing as privacy becomes an increasingly pressing issue. Choosing the right one can simplify and clarify everyday processes. Even while working with a quality platform, there is still much to know for managing and improving your privacy. For both issues, it's best to learn from the experts. In this episode of She Said Privacy/He Said Security, Jodi and Justin Daniels chat with Ben Brook, the CEO and Co-founder of Transcend, about selecting and utilizing privacy software. They discuss essential criteria for programs, adapting to regulatory environments, and breaking down the issues with privacy and generative AI.