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NOTE: This was initially a Second Captains World Service members-only show broadcasted first on 15th of January 2021. Due to the importance of the subject matter and the huge reaction to Fionn's story, we have decided to re-publish for all today, the 19th of January. To help us continue to produce independent, member-led journalism like this and projects like 'Where Is George Gibney?', please join the Second Captains World Service for just €5 a month. Enjoy the show and thanks to all our members as always for their support.**Today we go entirely outside of sport on the Second Captains World Service and the magnitude of the Mother and Baby report this week in Ireland warrants it, particularly when a friend of the podcast has such an important story to tell. Fionn Davenport was born in the St Patrick’s Mother and Baby home on the Navan Rd in Dublin in 1968. His mother Jane was lied to and told she couldn’t keep her son. Fionn was adopted soon afterwards.This week, this dark part of our history has been brought into sharp focus. On Tuesday, the final report of the Mother and Baby Homes Commission of Investigation was published, detailing the cruelty experienced by thousands of women and children at 14 mother and baby homes and four county homes across Ireland between 1922 and 1998, and the following day the Taoiseach issued a state apology for how these people were treated.Fionn is now a well-known travel writer and editor and he tells us his emotional story; the impact it’s had on him throughout his life, the significance of this week’s report and the roadblocks that still exist for survivors. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Ken inspects his bulging mailbag and finds listeners and non-listeners alike have lost patience with the constant stream of nonsense he has talked on many subjects, ranging from the source of Liverpool's problems, the quality of Marcus Rashford's performances and Frank Lampard's trust in Mason Mount. Carefully, patiently, he sets these losers and haters straight.We hear quite a lot from Alex Ferguson today, from his negotiations with Andrei Kanchelskis' agent to his opinions about the recently-retired Wayne Rooney.Rory Smith joins us to discuss yesterday's game at Anfield. Why are Liverpool bad now? Is their recruitment department quite the world-beating operation it's cracked up to be? And is Bruno Fernandes the new Luis Suarez? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Its time for your weekly snifter of the Second Captains World Service. We build up to Liverpool V Man Utd by looking at Solskjaer's skill at cutting away the dead wood at Old Trafford, US Murph talks to us about Trump and the Capitol riots and Ken takes a reading on golf's moral compass. Join for five euro a month at secondcaptains.com/join. We are independent and member led. There's no contracts, no minimum stay, and no adverts. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Stephen Kenny has had a highly eventful time as Ireland manager with a penalty playoff loss, a pandemic, a Covid close contacts crisis, a video storm, 8 games without a win and now he has lost his assistant coach Damien Duff. Ken journalist is on the case, and he has some strong leads (1.00). Paul O'Connell is maybe Ireland's best-ever forward, one of our best ever captains, a Lions captain, but besides a curtailed spell in Paris and some short stints in Ireland, he hasn't got a very extensive coaching CV. We ask Shane Horgan and Gerry Thornley to predict how good he will be, and why (20.30).Plus there's Roy Keane football manager, mighty Leinster, Connacht butchering a 15 on 13 overlap and Eoin McDevitt's shredded sports calendar. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Tom Parsons joined us alongside his old friend and former teammate Andy Moran to discuss his decision to retire this week, one of four Mayo careers which came to a close over a handful of days. US Murph has been prepping us for the start of the NFL postseason this weekend, while Stephen A Smith prepped Dallas Cowboys fans for the premature end of their season. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We talk about Frank Lampard's struggle at Chelsea - which might now, if history is any guide, be entering a terminal phase.Meanwhile Ken reveals he has made important changes to his lifestyle - but that doesn't mean he doesn't have time to round on the losers and haters.We're joined by Jonathan Wilson and Dion Fanning to discuss some of the weekend's football in more detail. What went wrong for Chelsea against City, and is it ever a bad time to Give Him Time? Are Manchester United serious title contenders? Why are they getting more penalties than anyone else? And is refereeing in the age of VAR increasingly vulnerable to influence by #narrative? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Ken and Jonathan Wilson talk over the post-Christmas football, as is the tradition.We all know the image we will remember the weekend by....but did Sam Allardyce's tactics actually cost his team victory at Anfield? Why should Chelsea fans be worried about Frank Lampard's uncompromisingly direct criticism of his players after losing to Arsenal? Why have Tottenham ground to a halt? And why is Jonathan sick of having to defend Marcelo Bielsa? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

2020 threw up a lot of surprises, so we should be thankful at least for some certainty and security in life - and few things in life now are as certain or secure as Dublin finishing the year as All-Ireland football champions. Oisin McConville and Andy Moran are on the line to pick through the bones of it, how much of the gameplan went right for Mayo, why Dublin were still able to pick them off... and how to stop Dublin from scoring goals direct from the throw-in. Ken also tries to get into the mind of Stephen "The Clinker" Cluxton, good people making good Dubs, and a mention too for Scott McTominay's heroics yesterday. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It was a week that featured more soccer than you could shake a stick at, a review of the All-Ireland hurling final, a preview of the All-Ireland football final, and the start of the European champions cup in rugby... so what the hell are you waiting for? Join us today and hear Ken lauding the return of the dinosaurs to the Premier League, why the war on Chris Wilder is Jurgen Klopp's Vietnam, and why Andy Moran still believes Mayo have what it takes to win the All-Ireland final. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This morning we heard the sad news of the death of Gerard Houllier, former manager of France, Liverpool and Aston Villa among others. We talk about the mark Houllier made on English football. Then we turn our attention to the weekend, in which Arsenal stole the show from some other underperforming clubs then had the show quickly stolen from them by Patrice Evra.We are joined by Dion Fanning and John Brewin to talk about Houllier, Arsenal, and whether some critics are right to suggest this is the worst season ever.Plus there's Thierry Henry's media fence, reaching maximum outrage and Paul Ince's 5-a-side record. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

With Jose Mourinho's Spurs riding high at the top of the league you might think there should be only one question for Ken this Monday: would he like his humble pie plain, or with salt? But there was much more going on in the world of football over the weekend, not least at The Den, where Millwall fans rejected the kneeling protests. We try to figure out why they reacted this way.Richie Sadlier was at the FAI Cup final in the freezing fog, we talk about the prospects ahead for Jack Byrne, how Irish football is going to respond to the news that it can no longer export teenagers to Britain, and what he made of the events at his old club Millwall on Saturday.And Jack Pitt-Brooke joins us to discuss the North London Derby. What are the secrets of Mourinho's mysterious chemistry at Tottenham? And how fast is faith in Mikel Arteta fading? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

For once, The Isolators put down their parsnips of war and celebrate the true meaning of Christmas Tops-Off-Thursday.Join the World Service now for just €5 a month plus VAT at secondcaptains.com/join/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It’s beefs galore in the Imagination Cave as the Isolators turn on each other.Join the World Service now for just €5 a month plus VAT at secondcaptains.com/join/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

As Raul Jimenez recovers in hospital after fracturing his skull in an awful clash of heads with David Luiz, Troy Deeney has attracted derision by arguing that players should self-diagnose when they have suffered brain damage. But why does he feel that way, and how should we understand his legitimate concerns? Miguel Delaney and Jacob Steinberg join us to talk about last night's stalemate between the London title contenders, and confront the awkward question of how certain people might have been 'wrong' to write off Jose Mourinho.And Kieran Canning explains why angry Celtic fans were protesting outside the stadium last night. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

To celebrate being certified pox-free, David gives us the sexiest ever Tops-Off-Thursday.Join the World Service now for just €5 a month + VAT: www.secondcaptains.com/join/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Since episode 8 of 'Where Is George Gibney?' aired last month, we've been inundated with questions, comments and emails about the making of the show, and the impact it's had.So to tide people over until the final two episodes drop on BBC Sounds on December 3rd and 10th, we have a Q&A with the podcast's creators Mark Horgan and Ciarán Cassidy, which was originally released on the World Service.We discuss the final, fateful meeting with Gibney, feeling an obligation to the survivors to do this thing right, and the emotional toll it took just living in this story for 2 years.There's also plenty of questions from our listeners, crazy golf, and what it's like to spend many, many weeks in a car with foul-mouthed podcast host Mark Horgan. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

David's stitches are out and he is in the mood for vengeance.Join the World Service now for just €5 a month + VAT: www.secondcaptains.com/join/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In yesterday's Munster football final, Tipperary wore jerseys which commemorated the team, featuring Michael Hogan, that played in Croke Park 100 years ago on Bloody Sunday. They did more than wear a jersey though, they went out and won their first provincial title since 1935, and they were good value for it too. Two hours later, Cavan created an even bigger shock when they beat Donegal in the Ulster football final. Put that with Dublin's demolition job on Meath on Saturday evening, and you have the sort of weekend that only Andy Moran and Oisin McConville could do justice to (23.00).Plus there's Jurgen Klopp going off on one about the three-sub rule and the role of broadcasters in this season's manic fixture list in an unbroadcast interview on Sky (5.45). Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Ireland's goal drought is beginning to warp the minds of everyone at Second Captains HQ, with Murph and Ken turning to a discussion of which Ireland player they'd eat first in a crisis. In a slightly saner conversation, we unveiled a new hurling pundit in Jamie Wall this week who gave us the definitive account of how to stop Clare's superstar Tony Kelly. And over on Isolating with David O'Doherty, there's stabbings, the musical stylings of Kriss Kross and Anthony Hopkins.Join the World Service now for just €5 a month + VAT at secondcaptains.com/join/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Unriddled by the Covids, David takes us on his daily cycle to the spot where, as a teen, he mourned the death of Kurt Cobain by making out with a stranger.Join the World Service now for just €5 a month + VAT: www.secondcaptains.com/join/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Snitches get stitches. Following his shivving, David receives well-wishes and threats from the Isolators.Join the World Service now for just €5 a month + VAT: www.secondcaptains.com/join/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It was a big weekend of Gaelic football, and we have the best punditry team in the business to pick over the bones of it this Monday, as Andy Moran and Oisin McConvillle are with us. We talk about Mayo's first Connacht title since 2015, why Croke Park might suit them better than Salthill in November, and why Donegal are still a bit short of the Dubs... we reckon. Plus there's Murph's ducks (and why they'd have drowned this weekend), Mickey Harte's decision to step away from Tyrone, and Ireland's goal drought. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It could have been the morning after the night before of a famous Irish victory in Wembley but alas, it was not to be and the culture wars keep roaring on. In our little taster of the week's World Service shows, we turn to the Scots, David O'Doherty and an amazing new documentary on Jack Charlton to cheer us up. Join the World Service now at secondcaptains.com/join/ for just a fiver a month plus VAT. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On a huge Tops Off Thursday, David deep-dives into the sad history of his former favourite breakfast cereal, RiCiCLES. Plus there's ballcock success, Doctor Oooops, nerd alerts and stupid things kids are scared of. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Nice day for a goth wedding. David reveals some of the incredible celebrities who have dined at his local Fish and Chipper. Plus there's bad knees and magic moments. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Not for the last half hour anyway, as City and Liverpool were too tired to play a full match. David Sneyd joins us to keen over Grealish and look ahead to Thursday.And Kieran Canning explains what’s been going wrong for Shane Duffy at Celtic. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Tops Off Thursday makes its triumphant, and quite chilly, return, and there have been a series of Doddles sightings around the city. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Have a whiff of this week's shows on the Second Captains World Service. To access daily shows go to secondcaptains.com/join. Its 5 euro a month for independently produced advert free daily shows including Isolating with David O'Doherty, twice weekly football shows with Ken Early, the Book Club with Murph, The Player's Chair with Richie Sadlier, all anchored by television star and marathon bore Mr. Eoin McDevitt. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

As 2020 continues its relentless bullshit, David gets the band back together.Join the World Service now for just €5 + VAT a month: www.secondcaptains.com/join/ Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Why are Manchester United so inconsistent? To Roy Keane the answer is obvious: too many of the players lack too many of the key qualities of real Manchester United players. Aggression. Leadership. Courage. Men. But maybe there are a couple of other reasons besides these. Ken is back today to suggest a few.Dion Fanning and Miguel Delaney join us to talk about how Solskjaer and Arteta matched up, whether Pogba is reaching the end of the road, the growing momentum at Spurs, and who else besides Liverpool can be considered contenders. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

After the fireworks of recent weeks, this was an altogether more sedate weekend in the Premier League. In fact the most blood-curdling battle of the entire round of fixtures was in the Sky Sports studio as Patrice Evra and Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink went at each other in extremely entertaining style. Richie Sadlier joins us to talk about why that was altogether more fun than the United/Chelsea game which preceded it, and why letting two people talk for 15 mins about football is altogether rarer than it should be.Jonathan Wilson is with us as well, as he remembers his colleague Kevin McCarra, and we also salute Shamrock Rovers, who bestrode this shortened League of Ireland season and are the worthiest of champions. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Welcome to your weekly sample of the Second Captains World Service which included the surreal but brilliant chat between Ken and Tim Robbins, Champions League, and Oisin and Andy Moran on the GAA getting the green light. Go to secondcaptains.com/join to access daily shows. No contract, no obligations, no minimum sign up. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

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Ireland were goalless again against Wales, but with half a team out due to Covid complications, with a bombshell false positive from Slovakia leaving a bitter taste in the mouth, and with a new manager left bearing the brunt of communicating all this drama to the public - a 0-0 draw was a pretty good result, and the performance was encouraging too. Richie Sadlier and Gavin Cooney of the42.ie join Ken, Eoin and Murph as we discuss a pretty stressful week in the life of Stephen Kenny. Mick McCarthy's continued presence as a kind of Greek chorus around Kenny as he starts his international management career is still a disgrace, and we also discuss just what Liverpool and Man United have in common with Marcus Crassus. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Manchester United losing 1-6 to Spurs is the sort of result you could just about imagine happening in real life, if things ever went as badly off the rails for United as early in the game as they did yesterday. But Liverpool losing 7-2 to Villa in the very next game... does... not... compute... Is this just what football is now? How did it get this way? And should we just enjoy it while it lasts?Richie Sadlier joins us to talk about the 7-2 and the 1-6. Are they really the same thing? And at whom does he point the finger of blame in the target-rich environment of Manchester United? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

This week's look around the Second Captain show house includes Ken's theory on Klopp's Sky savagery, the truth about young Kobe Bryant and ex Connacht coach Pat Lam on the game that changed his life and the unbreakable Irish spirit.Go to secondcaptains.com/join for full access. Its 5 euro a month (plus VAT) with no contract and no minimum sign up or hidden costs. AND its the start of the month, so the perfect time to jump aboard. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It was a weekend that reminded you of what we treasure about the game of football - the chance for everybody to absolutely lose their minds over something that really does not matter at all. We talk about why almost all the outrage over "the new handball rule" misses the point. There is also Pat Kenny, Paddy Kenny, Neil Warnock's crusty haunches, Lord Bamford and the latest from the Suarez-Messi telenovela, before Jonathan Wilson and Jacob Steinberg join us to talk about hands, Pep and Super Frank. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

On this week's taster we chat to green jersey winner Sam Bennett about imposter syndrome, Ireland's next golf superstar James Sugrue about playing alongside Bubba Watson and Lee Westwood at the US Open and Ken about forgiving Frank Lampard - secondcaptains.com/join is where its at! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Was that the end of Chelsea's title challenge? Two games in it's too soon to say, but they'll need to play a lot better if they want to cut down last season's 33-point gap to Liverpool, who have added a new dimension with the signing of Thiago.Was yesterday's easy Liverpool win a question of incidents involving Christensen, Kepa and Jorginho not going Chelsea's way - or were there deeper problems too?Jack Pitt-Brooke and Mark Critchley join us to talk about the contrasting fortunes this weekend of Tottenham and Manchester United. Why was nobody else but Spurs in for Gareth Bale? Does Mourinho want to get rid of Dele Alli? And what was it about Paul Pogba's Covid-19 hit pre-season that convinced Ole Gunnar Solskjaer he was ready to start against Crystal Palace? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Champagne Football is out today. It’s the definitive history of John Delaney’s rise, reign and spectacular fall at the FAI, by the journalists who brought him down. Eoin and Ken interviewed authors Mark Tighe and Paul Rowan at the book's virtual launch last night and we're making the chat available to everybody for free.Plus there's episode 4 of 'Where Is George Gibney?', Scorsese goes Irish, and truth is stranger than fiction. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Better to live one day as a Lion than a thousand years as a Sheep. Such is the Leeds United philosophy under Marcelo Bielsa... the downside of course is that you only get to live one day. Though if Leeds can keep scoring three goals a game they should live a bit longer than that. The Spurs-Everton game was dominated by Jose's headline-grabbing soundbites about lazy pressure and so on, but more interesting was the rivalry of the Ireland right backs. Who would you rather be right now: Seamus Coleman, or Matt Doherty?Miguel Delaney and John Brewin join us to discuss (the bit we have so far seen of) the Premier League's opening weekend. What is Bielsa's secret? Are Chelsea poised to storm to the title under their legendary young coach? And can John Brewin say the word Doherty? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Sir Bradley Wiggins, Boris Johnson, Declan Rice, Jack Grealish, the return of the English Premier League….. we’ve been covering a wild week for the people of England on the world service and you can access our daily shows for a fiver a month at secondcaptains.com/joinToday’s taster also includes Triple H, Ken looks into his crystal ball, and there’s the great Spanish Podcast Mystery. When you join theres no contract, no minimum stay, no sneaky tie-ins just daily shows in your app, plus instant access to all our archives. Disfrutar! Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Stephen Kenny is now winless in two as Ireland manager. It is time to admit it just hasn't worked, and retreat to the safety of the old ways? Or after four training days and two matches, might it still be too soon to pronounce definitive judgment?Dion Fanning and David Sneyd join us to analyse the game. If there's a culture war in Irish football, who are the warring sides? And are there any quick solutions to the problems that have revealed themselves?Ken also complains about being taken for a ride by the Nine Figure Man himself, Lionel Messi. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It's been a big week for Irish football as the FAI's succession plan is finally complete and Stephen Kenny holds the reins, which means it's also been a big week on the World Service. Richie Sadlier and David Sneyd joined us for a bumper chat after Kenny's first match in charge against Bulgaria on Thursday evening which is available on the World Service now. Earlier in the week, Ken cast a critical eye over the new Spurs documentary on Amazon Prime, a series which - surprise, surprise - features some massive bigging up of Jose, by Jose. Come join us and sign up to the World Service now for just €5 + VAT a month - the start of the month is the perfect time: www.secondcaptains.com/join Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Stephen Kenny will play his first game as Ireland manager this week, and he's outlined his modest plans for Ireland - just a complete reconstruction of how the world views Irish football AND qualification for major tournaments. Richie Sadlier is with Eoin, Ken and Murph to talk about Matt Doherty's move to Spurs, Doherty or Coleman for Ireland, Obafemi Bolt, Stephen Kenny's ambition, and the questions the FAI need to answer.We also discuss the Frank Lampard effect, which is currently drawing all of Europe's top talent to Chelsea. And while Man United bulk up their options by signing Donny Van de Beek from Ajax, there's still no movement from Liverpool in the transfer market. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We had a lot of fun talking about Messi and Maguire this week, and if you want to join in go to secondcaptains.com/join. Its a fiver a month, with no contracts and no obligations, so give it a whirl.This week's taster menu includes Ken V Murph + Eoin on Messi the "ashen faced choker", the brilliant Sid Lowe on the reality that Messi could fail big at his next club, Harry The Greek, and one of our favourite contributors, Caitlin Thompson of Racquet Magazine, on player walkouts in the NBA. MLS, WNBA, MLB and tennis. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Bayern Munich have won their sixth Champions League, becoming the first team to win every game on the way to becoming champions of Europe.Hansi Flick took risks, got lucky, and won the treble. For Thomas Tuchel there can only be regrets. Are there any obvious candidates to succeed him as PSG manager? Richie Sadlier and Jonathan Wilson join us to analyse the game. Have the players adapted to the post-fans reality a little too well? Is the job spec for coaches at the biggest clubs changing? And what's the next move for PSG's stars?There's also some initial reaction to Stephen Kenny's first squad announcement as Ireland manager.It's a big week for us at Second Captains with our new international investigative podcast series coming to BBC Sounds this Thursday, August 27th. We're excited to say you can hear the full trailer for Where Is George Gibney? on today's show. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Barcelona have been in slow decline since 2017, but the annual Champions League knockout reminders get more traumatic every year. What needs to happen now? Where can they go from here? And can anyone stop the march to the final of Bayern's eminence grise, Thomas Goal-ler? Eh? Thomas Goal-ler? Meanwhile Man City have Pepped it up again. Why does Guardiola do this to himself? Can Sterling ever live the miss down? And what are the prospects of Pep turning this around? We talk to Raphael Honigstein and Miguel Delaney about those incredible Champions League quarter-finals. Why are German coaches leading the way in Europe? Has Guardiola betrayed his own principles? And how would they each solve a problem like Messi? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Second Captains Snifter Time!We chat to former GAA dual star Jamie Wall about sliding doors moments, a life changing diagnosis and why the constant pursuit of happiness is sure to lead to misery.Brian Murphy was the perfect man to talk to about the USPGA because not only did he predict Colinn Morikawa would win it, it’s also his local course, and he covered it for the New York Times. All of this made for a happy US Murph.Plus Ken has been covering the Champions League, and enjoying the Champions League, which is turning out to be a very tasty tournament.To hear daily Second Captains shows, plus access to years of archive go to secondcaptains.com/join - its a fiver a month with no contracts, no obligations, no minimum sign up... just top top top broadcasting. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

The time horizons of the final stages of the 2020 Champions League have been compressed from six weeks down to 12 days. The competition has to make up for lost time. Meanwhile for a generation of stars, time is running out.For David Silva, who has one last chance to win it with Manchester City. For Robert Lewandowski, whose hopes of winning the Ballon D'Or were dashed by France Football's decision to cancel the 2020 award. Lewandowski's stunning achievement in almost single-handedly defeating Frank Lampard's effervescent Chelsea would surely have been enough on its own to seal the award. And most dramatically of all for Lionel Messi, whose Barcelona look hopelessly outgunned in their quarter-final fixture against Bayern, but nevertheless still have a chance because he plays for them.Time has already run out this year for Cristiano Ronaldo, whose Juventus were knocked out in the second round by Lyon. We're joined by The Athletic's James Horncastle to analyse where things went wrong for Maurizio Sarri, what we can expect from the new coach Andrea Pirlo, why Ronaldo hasn't been able to turn Juventus into Champions League winners and whether they should persevere with him for another season. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.