Say Their Name

https://www.dcpofficial.com/stephonclark Stevante Clark, Stephons brother discusses how he identified musically and connected to the streets. He shared what it was to be around the street and "thug" life, by building connections through music and not gang banging. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/stephonclark Mama Clark discusses her firm belief in spirituality and how that's given her comfort over the years. And Stevante shares how he and Stephon viewed spirituality. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/stephonclark Andre Young, cousin of the Clarks, discusses his personal experience being constantly harassed by police in Sacramento. He shares a violent attack of being beat up by the police when he was as young as 13 years old, a secret he kept for many years. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/stephonclark The day before we released Stephon Clark Part 1, his grandfather Tommy Lee Thompson passed away. We wanted to share him with you all and the family in remembrance. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/stephonclark Stevante discusses the many careers he's had. One of them being a corrections officer in Ohio. He also shares some of the violence he's seen in the prison system. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/stephonclark On March 18th, 2018 Stephon Clark was shot and killed in his grandmothers backyard after Sacramento police officers allege they mistook his cell phone for a gun. Follow the family as they fight for justice, and learn about the egregious claims made by the District Attorney's office. CALL TO ACTION Please join and support the I Am Sac foundation at iamsacfoundation.com - And support their upcoming events at iamsacevents.org Contact your local officials to demand that they ban Qualified Immunity Names of the Fallen mentioned in these episodes Trevor Seever Ahmaud Arbery George Floyd Sean Monterrosa Miles Hall Marshall Miles Nakia Taylor Mike Brown Oscar Grant Trayvon Martin Augustine Morales Gabriella Nevarez Stephon Clark Credits Special thanks to Host: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Executive Producers: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Edited & Sound Design: Byron Hunt Producers: Heather Johnson, Ryan Woodhall and Mike DuBose Associate Producers: Quinton Hill Content Distribution: DCP Entertainment Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/stephonclark On March 18th, 2018 Stephon Clark was shot and killed in his grandmothers backyard after officers allege they mistook his cell phone for a gun. Though the story received National media attention, there is a lot more to the case and the Clark family story than most people know. Stephon's grandmother Sequita, mother Sequette “Mama Clark” and brothers Jhai’Len and Stevante share who Stephon was and how the family made a name for themselves throughout the city of Sacramento, CA. CALL TO ACTION Please join and support the I Am Sac foundation at iamsacfoundation.com - And support their upcoming events at iamsacevents.org Contact your local officials to demand that they ban Qualified Immunity WARNING: Skip Ahead 30 seconds So, all of a sudden, I hear something go pow, pow, pow, pow, pow, pow. And I said, "Oh my God." I thought it was the neighbors. There's some apartments over here that's behind, they're called Coral Gables, and they always like shooting over there, these young people. So I jumped out on the floor and because the sound was getting closer, got out of that chair over there and came over here and pulled my granddaughter by her legs and said, "Cailyn, wake up. They're shooting outside. They're shooting." And she said, "What, Grandma?" I said, "Yeah, they're shooting. Lay down. We went all the way around to the bedroom on the floor, me and her. And I said, "Papa, they're shooting." He said, "Yeah." Then he said that he thought he heard somebody at the window, but I said, "Well, call the police. See what's going on. Credits Special thanks to Host: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Executive Producers: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Edited & Sound Design: Byron Hunt Producers: Heather Johnson, Ryan Woodhall and Mike DuBose Associate Producers: Quinton Hill Content Distribution: DCP Entertainment Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/johnhorton John Horton’s mom explains why Jackie Lacey is the face of death, and how Jackie played a role in covering the dirt done by police. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/johnhorton John Horton's mom explains why it is important to get out and vote, including why that's a huge part of the fight to get justice for loved ones lost to police violence. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/johnhorton Helen shares why church was so important in their family, and how it played a huge role in her and John's life. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/johnhorton Helen shares insight on how the courts stall on cases to get them dropped. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/johnhorton itemizes all the financial loss that happens in loosing a loved one to police violence. She also shares how the money rewarded in these cases don't equate to justice. ( Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname John Horton died at the age of 22, while in a solitary confinement cell in Los Angeles' Men's Central Jail. John's mother, Helen and family believe the LA County's coroners claim of suicide was staged to help move attention away from the potential that John was killed by a Los Angeles Sheriff Department gang known as the 3000 Boys. Find out more about the traumatic death of John Horton as well as his families fight for justice, not just for John, but for others who died a similar fate. CALL TO ACTION Helen Jones would like you to use whatever means possible to amplify… “John Horton who was murdered, beat to death on March 30th 2009 in Men's Central Jail by ten 3000 Boys’ deputy Sheriff gang members that viciously run the 3rd floor of Men's Central County Jail. 12 years later and still no justice for John.” “Jalani Lovett who was also beaten to death and murdered by the 3000 Boys deputy sheriff gang on September 22nd 2021. And the 3000 Boys gang tried to stage Jalani Lovett's death.” “WE MUST STOP THE SHERIFF'S GANGS FROM COMMITING GENOCIDE ON OUR CHILDREN NOW. THE GANGS BEEN KILLING BLACK AND BROWN FOLKS SINCE THE 1970'S FOR GANG INITIATION.” - Helen Jones “The los Angeles Sheriff Department has 18 known vicious deputy gangs that are commiting genocide on black and brown men and women.” Contact your local officials to demand that they ban Qualified Immunity Other Info For more information about ‘depositions’ please listen to our episodes on Jamar Clark WARNING CHIME #1 8:14 (skip ahead 1 min) According to court documents, the coroner’s autopsy found that John Horton had a ligature mark around his neck, hematoma in his liver and kidney area, with signs of blunt force trauma. They ruled that his death was caused by asphyxia, due to self-inflicted hanging. CHIME#2 12:08 (SKIP ahead :30 seconds) The first day they came here visiting me they said it, too. They say they beat him to death. You got the pictures because we took pictures at the mortuary, John was also handcuffed by one arm when they was beating him. The handcuff was on his wrist so tight that it left a flesh ring. He must was trying to get out of it and it cut a even circle in flesh around his wrist, it was that deep. probably while they was beating him he was trying to get out of it, whatever they had him handcuffed to. CHIME#3 57:09 (skip ahead 1 min) Tamiko Tyler, he was killed in Wayside by the sheriffs, and they beat Tamiko. They tried to say Tamiko fell off from bed, hit his head. But all the time they beat Tamiko, bust his teeth, broke his ribs. They did a lot to Tamiko. And Juan Korea. He got killed in the county jail too. They tried to say he had a heart attack, but all the time, Juan got blunt force trauma to the head, blunt force trauma to the chest, blunt force trauma to the back. They tased him so many times. They did something to his spine too, to where he couldn't walk. And right now, so far you getting away with his death, And Juan, they took his brain. Haven't gave his brain back to his family yet because it's damaged. Because he got blunt force trauma in the head. And the colonel never told his family he had blunt force trauma to the head. Not even attorneys told his family he had blunt force trauma, So his death is ruled as a heart attack. LIVES OF THE FALLEN MENTIONED IN EPISODE: Tamiko Tyler Juan Correa Wakiesha Wilson Quinten Thomas Jalani Lovett John Horton CREDITS Host: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Executive Producers: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Edited & Sound Design: Byron Hunt Producers: Heather Johnson, Ryan Woodhall and Mike DuBose Associate Producers: Quinton Hill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/johnhorton John Horton died at the age of 22 on March 30th 2009, while in a solitary confinement cell in Los Angeles' Men's Central Jail. There were conflicting autopsy reports, but ultimately John's mother, Helen Jones, was able to learn about the extensive trauma John suffered leading up to his death. LA county originally listed John's death as suicide, but the Jones family believes this was staged to help move attention away from the potential that John was killed by a Los Angeles Sherriff Department gang known as the 3000 Boys. CALL TO ACTION Helen Jones would like you to use whatever means possible to amplify… “John Horton who was murdered, beat to death on March 30th 2009 in Men's Central Jail by ten 3000 Boys’ deputy Sheriff gang members that viciously run the 3rd floor of Men's Central County Jail. 12 years later and still no justice for John.” “Jalani Lovett who was also beaten to death and murdered by the 3000 Boys deputy sheriff gang on September 22nd 2021. And the 3000 Boys gang tried to stage Jalani Lovett's death.” “WE MUST STOP THE SHERIFF'S GANGS FROM COMMITING GENOCIDE ON OUR CHILDREN NOW. THE GANGS BEEN KILLING BLACK AND BROWN FOLKS SINCE THE 1970'S FOR GANG INITIATION.” - Helen Jones “The los Angeles Sheriff Department has 18 known vicious deputy gangs that are commiting genocide on black and brown men and women.” Contact your local officials to demand that they ban Qualified Immunity Credits Special thanks to Host: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Executive Producers: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Edited & Sound Design: Byron Hunt Producers: Heather Johnson, Ryan Woodhall and Mike DuBose Associate Producers: Quinton Hill Content Distribution: DCP Entertainment Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/korryngaines The family shares how it felt to sit in the court room with Korryn's killer. The officer's wife was also in court, and her eyes offered unexpected empathy, Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/korryngaines Rhanda Dormeus share how with the controversy around Korryn's case she didn't obtain a lawyer but the lawyer obtained her and she was able to be supported by a legal dream team. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/korryngaines Family of Korryn Gaines, her mother Rhanda, her brother Ryan and father figure Anthony discuss the account of the expert who broke down the case of what happened when the officer shot. He proves that the officer couldn't have seen Korryn from where he stood as he opened fire. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/korryngaines Ryan breaks down how officers repeated exposure to lead mentally impairs officers. There's a call for lead testing in officers. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/korryngaines On Aug 1, 2016 Korryn Gaines was shot inside of her home in Randallstown MD. Police forced entry into her home shooting and killing Korryn and injuring young son Kodi. In part 2 we hear of the tumultuous journey for justice which includes a judge’s unexpected involvement. CALL TO ACTION Support the Coalition of Concerned Mothers at http://cocmdmv.org/ Call County Executive County Executive John Olszewski Jr. office to fight to have Kodi’s settlement reinstated. Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4f Support Ryan WARNING: CHIME #1 11:12 (Skip ahead 1 minute) "I think that was the most surprising thing for me" (until 12:59 that's why I wanna see the transcripts) LIVES OF THE FALLEN MENTIONED IN EPISODE: Freddie Gray Mike Brown Kevin Cooper George Floyd Gary Hopkins Jr CREDITS Host: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Executive Producers: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Edited & Sound Design: Byron Hunt Producers: Heather Johnson, Ryan Woodhall and Mike DuBose Associate Producers: Quinton Hill Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/korryngaines On Aug 1, 2016 Korryn Gaines was shot inside of her home in Randallstown MD. Police said they were there to serve a warrant for her boyfriend, but forced entry into her home. Korryn documented the encounter on her Facebook live as she sat inside legally armed, and with her 5 year old son Kodi. The family believes the impatience of an officer resulted in the killing of Korryn and injury of her young son. CALL TO ACTION Support the Coalition of Concerned Mothers at http://cocmdmv.org/ Call County Executive County Executive John Olszewski Jr. office to fight to have Kodi’s settlement reinstated. Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4f WARNING: Chime #1 59:07 (Skip ahead 1 min) basing off breaching her property cuz they heard a child" he got hot and took a shot he wasn't authorized to take CREDITS Host: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Executive Producers: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Edited & Sound Design: Byron Hunt Producers: Heather Johnson, Ryan Woodhall and Mike DuBose Associate Producers: Quinton Hill Content Distribution: DCP Entertainment Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Val Carey shares the global response to the passing of her sister Miriam, and the unjust actions of the Secret Service. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Melody Fox, friend to the Carey family, dissects the lack of transparency in the case of Miriam Carey and the cover up of all the incidents that ensued... Why isn't there more information available? Where is the video showing how they shot a mom with her 1 year old in the car? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Miriam's sister Val discusses the conflicts amongst people with similar goals in the fight for justice for their loved ones. She highlights why staying focused and not feeding into the politics around these issues, is the best way to find support and amplify the stories of impacted families. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/miriamcarey Miriam Carey was driving with her baby in the car on Oct 3, 2013 when she was shot at 26 times, and hit 5 times in the back and head by Capitol Police, in part two we learn of the impact of the death of Miriam and the family's fight for justice. CALL TO ACTION: Keep up with updates on -https://justice4miriamcarey.com/ Sign the Petition to re-open the case change.org/p/justice-for-miriam-carey-justice4miriamcarey LIVES OF THE FALLEN MENTIONED IN EPISODE George Floyd Brianna Taylor Amadou Diallo Alton Sterling Delrawn Smalls Terrance Sterling Philando Castile Miriam Carey CREDITS Host: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Executive Producers: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Edited & Sound Design: Byron Hunt Producers: Heather Johnson, Ryan Woodhall and Mike DuBose Associate Producers: Quinton Hill Content Distribution: DCP Entertainment Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

https://www.dcpofficial.com/miriamcarey On Oct 3, 2013, 34 year old, Miriam Carey was driving with her baby in the car when she was shot at 26 times, and hit 5 times in the back and head by Capitol Police, after she accidentally made an incorrect turn into a White House security checkpoint. Her baby was not physically harmed. Miriam’s sister, Valarie Carey (retired NYPD sergeant), and other relatives have drawn stark contrasts to the way Miriam was treated and killed, vs the white Capitol rioters on Jan 6, 2021. CALL TO ACTION: Keep up with updates on -https://justice4miriamcarey.com/ Sign the Petition to re-open the case change.org/p/justice-for-miriam-carey-justice4miriamcarey WARNING: Chime #1 51:57 (Skip ahead 2 mins) And he said, "Well, obviously you haven't been watching the news. Turn your TV on to CNN." And then when I turned my TV on to CNN, I see, you know, the footer running, suspect. Suspect of what? Um, I see my niece being held, um, by an officer. I do see my sister's vehicle or what appeared to- could be my sister's vehicle. Um, and I just got off the phone and said, "I need to process this." CLIP of police encounter CREDITS Host: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Executive Producers: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Edited & Sound Design: Byron Hunt Producers: Heather Johnson, Ryan Woodhall and Mike DuBose Associate Producers: Quinton Hill Content Distribution: DCP Entertainment Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Say Their Name Season 2 is Launching Jan 3rd 2022! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Say Their Name returns with season 2 on January 3rd!This Season we have more stories and unique perspectives from families, as we focus in on the families of women who have been impacted by police violence.We honor the lives and families of Miriam Carey, Korryn Gaines, John Horton, Stephon Clark, Bettie Jones, Rekia Boyd, Pamela Turner, Sean Bell & William Green Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Adell gives updates on the next plans for STN as well as exciting nominations where we need YOUR support! Vote for Say Their Name for a Webby Award https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2021/podcasts/general-series/documentary Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Adell takes a moment to thank you our listeners for their continued support to the families they shared in season one. She also gives some updates on Say Their Name and collaborators. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Adell and Chris wrap up Season 1 of Say Their Name, reflecting on what they learned and their call to action with the #GetLouder campaign as we support Georgia in the Senate Runoff. CALL TO ACTION: Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4f #GetLouder is a rallying cry for all Black and Brown communities that have been disproportionately impacted by policing in America. It is an ethos, but is also a call-to-action that amplifies the act of voting as well as collective storytelling. We have to #GetLouder in and for Georgia because creating a Democratic senate is critical in setting us up to pass much needed legislation like the George Floyd Justice in Policing Act. By amplifying our voice and the voices of families who continue to live with the trauma of police violence, this campaign will build on Say Their Name podcast to further enforce the need for reform, accountability, and collective investment in making change. Say Their Name: Tony McDade Kaldrick Donald Trayvon Martin Breonna Taylor George Floyd Martin Lee Anderson Tamir Rice George Floyd Timothy Thomas Angela Williams Michael Brown Eric Garner Stephon Clarke Ahmaud Arbery Sandra Bland Oscar Grant Adolph Grimes III Pamela Turner Philando Castile Justine Dammond Chiasher Fong Vue Justin Teigen Rodney King Trey Davis Marcus Golden Michael Kirvelay Sharice Burns and her baby boy Eric Garner Rodney King Emmett Till Walter Scott Philando Castile Jeffrey Gilbert Michael Donald Reed Ronnie White John Crawford III Duane “Wane” Strong Jr. Kaldrick Donald Danny Ray Thomas Jamar (Clark) Burns-Hill Archie “Artie” Elliott III See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duane’s family and his attorney speak about his unexpected death, and the lack of justice for them and other families in Florida. Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4f WARNING: CHIME #1 (skip ahead 2 minute 34 seconds) So after that fight, Tony did about an hour long Facebook Live, pretty much talking about all the trauma that he's experienced in his life, from being beaten from five years old, for 12 years. Not having the love of the family, not having the love of the community, being locked up for 15 years of his adult life. Pretty much being warehoused, not getting any treatment or anything like that. And one thing that when I saw it, and I know Tony from growing up. There are so many Tony's out there. And that's what drew me to the story. Whether it be the trauma, whether it be the disappointment, whether it be, people use you, all those kinds of things, and you never know when somebody's at their end. And Tony was clearly at his end. And so he said, in the video, he was going to find him, he was going to get revenge and kill him. And that it was going to have to be a standoff with law enforcement, because he wasn't going back to jail. And so the next morning, the people who he fought, live in the same apartment complex that he did. So he stayed over at a friend's house to avoid it, went home to change clothes, saw one of the guys, Malik and saw him sitting in the car, he approached him. There was a stab and both of them, ended up stabbed. Malik passed away. Tony was also stabbed. Tony then called, Wanda McDade, which is Tony's mom, on the way back to the apartment. And by the time they got back to the apartment, Tony noticed one law enforcement officer pulling up. So Tony walked over to the tree where you might've saw some of the videos. There was a tree where Tony was killed, and Wanda got out of the car, went straight to the officer and said, you got to help him. You got to help him. He's suicidal. Wanda McDade's mom still refer to Tony as a daughter, say, my daughter, she's suicidal, she's suicidal. You got to help her. They just kept approaching, another officer pulled up. And from what everybody was saying, didn't say much, it was barely out of his car, and shot Tony five times. They found shells inside the squad car. The original story, mom said that Tony didn't have a gun, law enforcement officer saying that Tony did have a gun. LIVES MENTIONED IN THIS EPSODE: Tony McDade Kaldrick Donald Trayvon Martin Breonna Taylor George Floyd Martin Lee Anderson https://www.dcpofficial.com/duane-strong Host: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Executive Producers: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Edited & Sound Design: Byron Hunt Producers: Jacqueline Garofano and Ryan Woodhall See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Duane “Wane” Strong Jr. was killed by police in Tallahassee, FL on May 29, 2014. At the age of 18, he was shot by an officer while trying to leave a nightclub parking lot. CALL TO ACTION: Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4f WARNING: CHIME #1 (skip ahead 1 minute) At the same time, because they called it in, this other officer Fallis. had decided to just block off the parking lot and say, nobody in, nobody out, So Fallis was there, the other officers, the black officer and there was one other officer that came up the hill. Those officers are telling Fallis to stop that vehicle, stop that vehicle. So, when you read the report, it says that he was like, banging in the cars, bumper cars, and bumped this car, bumped that car, speeding through the parking lot. They’re saying, hey, stop. And the officer just started shooting and the first shot went straight through the windshield, hit him right away. And then he kept shooting. So it was a lot of bullets down the side of the car. So he kept shooting him as he drove away into the back windshield. But Duane, he didn’t make it probably about 200 yards down the street, car drove into the woods and he died right there on the scene. https://www.dcpofficial.com/duane-strong CREDITS: Host: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Executive Producers: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Edited & Sound Design: Byron Hunt Producers: Jacqueline Garofano and Ryan Woodhall Associate Producers: Maria Beckett & Quinton Hill Content Distribution: DCP Entertainment See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kaldrick’s family and attorney discuss how the case was kept out of the public eye, and how the officer’s pattern of behavior has terrorized their small town. CALL TO ACTION: Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4f CashApp - $LoisD71 WARNING: CHIME #1 (skip ahead 1 minute 3 seconds) And, that morning when I called, he was in the dollar store I guess. And somebody told me ... I can’t remember who it was. They said that he got the call and he made a statement saying that I hope I don’t have to go kill nobody. Well, he told somebody that, and they told me, but they didn’t want to- Go on record? Go on record. They just- They told you that he said that he was going to end up killing one of them little young niggers out there on that medication. This is the same officer that went inside a church and dragged the man out and beat him. Threw him across the ground and broke his shoulder in front of a bunch of church members. RESOURCES: Apalachee Center - https://apalacheecenter.org/ Tallahassee Memorial Behavioral Health Center - https://www.tmh.org/ LIVES MENTIONED IN THIS STORY: Duane Strong Jr. Tony MCDade George Floyd Kaldrick Donald https://www.dcpofficial.com/kaldrick-donald CREDITS: Host: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Executive Producers: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Edited & Sound Design: Byron Hunt Producers: Jacqueline Garofano and Ryan Woodhall Associate Producers: Maria Beckett & Quinton Hill Content Distribution: DCP Entertainment See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Kaldrick Donald was killed by police in Gretna, FL on October 28, 2014. At the age of 24, he was shot by an officer in his family’s bathroom after the officer arrived to help get Kaldrick mental health care. CALL TO ACTION: Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4f CashApp - $LoisD71 WARNING: CHIME #1 (skip ahead 1 minute) By the time I'm like this far to him, like, I'm here Officer Brown there. By the time my feet hit the second step, all I hear is pop, pop, pop, pop, pop. And I'm like, fall back, like what's going on? My daughter Shameka, she told the story, Because my daughter was standing right there looking. she watched everything. And she told me that it was like a little tussle thing. You know, Kaldrick jumped back in the tub, just probably afraid. And I don't know, if it was a battle or what, He shot him, then he grabbed him around and he laid him down to the floor. The last thing I heard Kaldrick say was, Meka, go get my mama. RESOURCES: Apalachee Center - https://apalacheecenter.org/ Tallahassee Memorial Behavioral Health Center - https://www.tmh.org/ https://www.dcpofficial.com/kaldrick-donald CREDITS: Host: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Executive Producers: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Edited & Sound Design: Byron Hunt Producers: Jacqueline Garofano and Ryan Woodhall Associate Producers: Maria Beckett & Quinton Hill Content Distribution: DCP Entertainment See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Family members share some of John Crawford III's things...especially his love for food. CALL TO ACTION: Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4 Sign Petition for John Crawford III Law - https://rb.gy/fojt05 https://www.dcpofficial.com/john-crawford See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Crawford III Aunt Sharon shares her passion and work for the NAACP as well as housing for the African American community. CALL TO ACTION: Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4 Sign Petition for John Crawford III Law - https://rb.gy/fojt05 https://www.dcpofficial.com/john-crawford See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Crawford Jr. talks about the racism he experienced growing up and spending time in Kentucky. CALL TO ACTION: Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4 Sign Petition for John Crawford III Law - https://rb.gy/fojt05 https://www.dcpofficial.com/john-crawford See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Crawford III’s family and attorney detail the moments surrounding his death, including a false 911 call and 2 additional deaths possibly caused by police killing Crawford. They also give insight on their judicial actions after his death with an ACT that is currently headed to the Senate to make the case for police reform. CALL TO ACTION: Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4 Sign Petition for John Crawford III Law - https://rb.gy/fojt05 WARNING: CHIME #1 (skip ahead 2 mins 3 seconds) He hesitated. He said, “Mr. Crawford, are you sure you want to?” I said, “Absolutely sure. I said, I’m giving you instruction, sir. Just don’t touch the body. He said, I got you. That’s fine. You want me to leave his body in the body bag, and just leave it in the morgue?” I said, ”Yes, and I will be there in the morning to view the body myself. I left that morning, took a trip right up the street there. He led me to the morgue, and he pointed to me, he said, “He’s right over there. I walk up to the gurney. He was on the slab then, and I unzipped the body bag. It was the most horrific thing I’ve ever seen, I wanted to. He said, “You okay?” I said, “Yeah, I’m okay.” I took my son’s, laid the body bag over. First thing I did was I took his arms out. I wanted to see for myself without the coroner's report. How many holes did he have in his body? I could see where his radius and all layers in one arm where the shot. Where it went through and exit and it broke it obviously. And then I lifted up his right arm and I could clearly see the enter and exit wounds. That one bullet, went through two arms, so I could see it. Then I looked and I could see where his upper torso, it was kind of coming at a slant that other one. He must have moved when that second one came in him, It was around the kidney on one end and up through the liver on the other end, so I could see both of those CHIME# 2 (skip ahead 2 mins 20 seconds) The police narrative was that John Crawford walked into Walmart. He was walking through the store. He picked up a BB gun that was sitting on the shelf. As he's walking through the store, there was a 911 caller that made the call that they believed that John was, or they gave the narrative that John was pointing what they believed to be a real rifle at patrons in the store. That 911 call was with a dispatcher. The dispatcher called the police officer. The police officer came to the store. He walked through the store. What he's indicated is that he saw John. He gave John multiple commands to put down the, what he believed to be a real firearm. John did not obey the commands. John, turned towards him in an aggressive manner with the gun pointing at the officer, and that's why the officer had to shoot and kill John. They said he was pointing the gun at people. And in the store at kids, And then he was standing facing the shelving in Walmart and talking on the phone and they shot him. People were shopping. There was a lady named... I think her name was Williams. That was with two little kids. She watched the whole thing and then she dropped dead. LIVES MENTIONED IN THIS STORY: - Michael Brown - Tamir Rice - George Floyd - Timothy Thomas - Angela Williams https://www.dcpofficial.com/john-crawford CREDITS: Host: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Executive Producers: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Edited & Sound Design: Byron Hunt Producers: Jacqueline Garofano and Ryan Woodhall Associate Producers: Maria Beckett & Quinton Hill Content Distribution: DCP Entertainment See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

John Crawford III was killed by police in Beavercreek, OH on August 5, 2014. At the age of 22, he was shot by police while shopping in Walmart and talking on his cell phone to the mother of his children. His family share’s personal stories on who John Crawford III was before the horrific day that took his life. CALL TO ACTION: Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4f Sign Petition for John Crawford III Law - https://rb.gy/fojt05 WARNING: CHIME #1 (skip ahead 2 minutes 25 seconds) And Darkow, the Sergeant, actually saw my son first. He peeked out an aisle, he saw. He tried to issue a cadence to him, something to the effect, “Put your gun down,” or something. My son, he’s looking at items on the shelf, talking on the phone, with the airsoft rifle down to the side. And you can hear Darkow, while he’s trying to issue the cadence, Williams just comes around him, And while he’s still trying to get my son’s attention... Williams just taking it amongst himself to just circle inside him and shoot him, 300ths of a second my son is shot at 16 feet away, Me and Crawford and the boys was inside doing grandparent thing. I wasn't in there maybe 10 minutes, and LeeCee just started screaming. "Ah, Mr. John, Mr. John, they shot him, they shot him, they shot Looney." I said, "What did she just say?" "He's calling your name. He's calling, he's saying dad, dad..." I say, "Oh, shit." I jumped off the couch, ran out there. She was running towards us, "Tressa, John, Tressa." She is shaking like a leaf, man. I mean, that phone was about to hit the ground when I'd grabbed at it, Tressa grabbed at it. But I did get the phone from her and trying to call his name. I put him on speaker and calling his name. Of course there was no response. At the time you can clearly hear the paramedics have gotten there, and they said, "Try to stay, stay with us, stay with us sir, keep your arms, raise your arms, raise them and just try to stay with them." You can just hear the breathing and the gurgling, and the breathing. He was desperately trying to live. He said, "Just stay with us, stay us." All of a sudden, it just, there was this big, big exhale. And that was it. https://www.dcpofficial.com/john-crawford CREDITS: Host: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Executive Producers: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Edited & Sound Design: Byron Hunt Producers: Jacqueline Garofano and Ryan Woodhall Associate Producers: Maria Beckett & Quinton Hill Content Distribution: DCP Entertainment See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Executive producer Chris Colbert speaks with a member of the community about what happened the day Danny Ray Thomas died. CALL TO ACTION: Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4f Sign the Petition - http://chng.it/2cPszRyJ Donate to the Marketta fund in the memoriam of her brother Danny Ray Thomas - CashApp $Butterfly2High https://www.dcpofficial.com/danny-ray-thomas See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Danny’s sister Marketta speaks about his life and their strong bond while navigating multiple family tragedies leading up to his death. She discusses what happened after the police encounter that led to Danny’s death and the impact it has had on her and her family. CALL TO ACTION: Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4f Sign the Petition - http://chng.it/2cPszRyJ Donate to the Marketta fund in the memoriam of her brother Danny Ray Thomas - CashApp $Butterfly2High WARNING: CHIME #1 (Skip ahead 2 mins 5 seconds) They said my brother could have survived. But if he would have survived, he would have been paralyzed, because when he was shot, he was shot in the abdomen and a bullet ruptured his spinal cord. So he would have been paralyzed, but he instead he died instantly, and he still treated my brother like an animal and handcuffed him, when proper procedure was to render aid. He was no threat, you shot him, he was no threat. He still didn't. So I'm just, I don't see how, after all the evidence was brought to them in a courtroom, they still found him not guilty. the people that trained him, even the chief of police even said that you're supposed to exhaust all resources before using deadly force. Nothing, nothing, and it's hurtful. LIVES MENTIONED IN THIS STORY: · Trayvon Martin · Eric Garner · Stephon Clarke · Ahmaud Arbery · Breona Taylor · Danny Ray Thomas https://www.dcpofficial.com/danny-ray-thomas CREDITS: Host: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Executive Producers: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Edited & Sound Design: Byron Hunt Producers: Jacqueline Garofano and Ryan Woodhall Associate Producers: Maria Beckett & Quinton Hill Content Distribution: DCP Entertainment See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Marian Tolan discusses the importance of people of having a jury of your peers CALL TO ACTION: Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4f Donate to the Tolan Family- $Mr1231 RESOURCES: - Buy Robbie's book "No Justice" - https://www.robbietolan.com/ Book Robbie to speak - https://www.robbietolan.com/ Book Robbie to DJ - https://www.robbietolan.com/ dcpofficial.com/robbie-tolan See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Marian Tolan takes Say Their Name Executive Producer Chris Colbert on a drive through Bellaire., Texas recounting the night Robbie was shot. CALL TO ACTION: Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4f Donate to the Tolan Family- $Mr1231 RESOURCES: - Buy Robbie's book "No Justice" - https://www.robbietolan.com/ Book Robbie to speak - https://www.robbietolan.com/ Book Robbie to DJ - https://www.robbietolan.com/ dcpofficial.com/robbie-tolan See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Robbie and his mother recount the sacrifices they had to make in the pursuit of justice. He and his mother chronicle his story, including the U.S. Supreme Court Precedent they set in Tolan v. Cotton. CALL TO ACTION: Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4f Donate to the Tolan Family- $Mr1231 RESOURCES: - Buy Robbie's book "No Justice" - https://www.robbietolan.com/ Book Robbie to speak - https://www.robbietolan.com/ Book Robbie to DJ - https://www.robbietolan.com/ NAMES OF THE FALLEN: · Sandra Bland · Oscar Grant · Adolph Grimes III · Trayvon Martin · Danny Ray Thomas · Michael Brown · Tamir Rice · Pamela Turner dcpofficial.com/robbie-tolan CREDITS: Host: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Executive Producers: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Edited & Sound Design: Byron Hunt Producers: Jacqueline Garofano and Ryan Woodhall Associate Producers: Maria Beckett & Quinton Hill Content Distribution: DCP Entertainment See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Robbie Tolan was shot by police in Bellaire, TX on December 31, 2008. At the age of 23, he was shot by police while in his own driveway, and in front of his cousin & parents, after officers mistakenly thought Robbie had stolen his own car. Robbie is one of the few people who lived to tell his own story. CALL TO ACTION: Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4f Donate to the Tolan Family- $Mr1231 WARNING: CHIME # 1 (skip ahead 2 minutes 40 seconds) Kind of almost dragged her over to the garage door and kind of threw her up against the garage door. He threw me against the garage door. And when he did that, Robbie pushed up and. And I lost it. I hopped up and said, "Get your fucking hands off my mom". And he didn't say a word. He never said, "Stay down. Get back down." Nothing. He pulled his gun. And I mean it was like slow motion almost. I remember, it really was like slow motion. Because I remember seeing him draw his gun and I was like, "He's not going to shoot me. He's not going to shoot me". And then the gun went off and I was like, "He didn't shoot me. He didn't shoot me". And then I started feeling this pressure, and fell back against the front door and collapsed. It was all slow motion. I saw the red, the fire from the gun because he shot him right in front of me. He was standing to my left and shot across me. So I saw the fire from the gun. And then I heard Robbie say, "Oh God." And then I knew he was hit. You could see smoke coming from his chest. For whatever reason in my little cartoon brain, I was thinking, "Well, maybe it was a rubber bullet". "That wasn't real", just in disbelief. And so I was laying on the ground and I put my hand up under my shirt and I pulled it out, and it was dripping in blood. Just covered, blood running down my forearm. And my mom said something like, "Oh my God, I can see smoke coming from his chest", or something. And the cop, real calmly said, "Ma'am, that's just the bullet tearing through the fibers of his shirt. Calm down, it's not a big deal". Well, I guess my knees gave out because I... My hands were still up and I slid against the garage door, down. And I said, I said, "Robbie call the name of Jesus." And I started praying. Just started praying, praying because I wanted him to hear me. I wanted him to be focused on my voice and I wanted him to pray. And I just said, "Call His name. Say His name. Call the name of Jesus." Like screaming, praying loudly, loud enough to where I would hear, but she started praying and they kept telling her to be quiet. RESOURCES: - Buy Robbie's book "No Justice" - https://www.robbietolan.com/ Book Robbie to speak - https://www.robbietolan.com/ Book Robbie to DJ - https://www.robbietolan.com/ dcpofficial.com/robbie-tolan CREDITS: Host: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Executive Producers: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Edited & Sound Design: Byron Hunt Producers: Jacqueline Garofano and Ryan Woodhall Associate Producers: Maria Beckett & Quinton Hill Content Distribution: DCP Entertainment See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Tiffany Roberson shares how her sons saved someone from a burning building. CALL TO ACTION: Sign Petition to demand community control of the police - https://sites.google.com/view/tcc4j/home Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4f RESOURCES: · Project Jamar Saving Me - https://www.savingme.org/ · Twin Cities Coalition for Justice 4 Jamar - www.facebook.com/TCC4J/ · Families Supporting Families Against Police Violence - https://www.facebook.com/fsfapv dcpofficial.com/jamar-clark-burns-hill See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jamar Clark's sister, Tiffany Roberson shares what it was like to gather for holidays and their special love for their favorite dish. CALL TO ACTION: Sign Petition to demand community control of the police - https://sites.google.com/view/tcc4j/home Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4f RESOURCES: · Project Jamar Saving Me - https://www.savingme.org/ · Twin Cities Coalition for Justice 4 Jamar - www.facebook.com/TCC4J/ · Families Supporting Families Against Police Violence - https://www.facebook.com/fsfapv dcpofficial.com/jamar-clark-burns-hill See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jamar's sister Tiffany Roberson share's her personal account of police brutality. CALL TO ACTION: Sign Petition to demand community control of the police - https://sites.google.com/view/tcc4j/home Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4f RESOURCES: · Project Jamar Saving Me - https://www.savingme.org/ · Twin Cities Coalition for Justice 4 Jamar - www.facebook.com/TCC4J/ · Families Supporting Families Against Police Violence - https://www.facebook.com/fsfapv dcpofficial.com/jamar-clark-burns-hill See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Community Activist Loretta VanPelt shares how she got her start and the continued efforts to get Justice for Jamar CALL TO ACTION: Sign Petition to demand community control of the police - https://sites.google.com/view/tcc4j/home Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4f RESOURCES: · Project Jamar Saving Me - https://www.savingme.org/ · Twin Cities Coalition for Justice 4 Jamar - www.facebook.com/TCC4J/ · Families Supporting Families Against Police Violence - https://www.facebook.com/fsfapv dcpofficial.com/jamar-clark-burns-hill See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jamar’s family, along with activists Jess Sundin and Loretta VanPelt speak about Jamar’s untimely death, the petition to reopen his case, and how their lawyer prophetically warned Minneapolis in 2019 that if another unarmed Black person was killed by police, the city would explode. CALL TO ACTION: Sign Petition to demand community control of the police - https://sites.google.com/view/tcc4j/home Donate to Families - https://gf.me/u/yk5y4f RESOURCES: · Project Jamar Saving Me - https://www.savingme.org/ · Twin Cities Coalition for Justice 4 Jamar - www.facebook.com/TCC4J/ · Families Supporting Families Against Police Violence - https://www.facebook.com/fsfapv WARNING: CHIME #1 (skip ahead 2 minutes) But nonetheless, what they say is that while he was on the ground, Ringgenberg claims that his gun had shifted on his belt. Shouldn’t have been possible, but it did. And it was directly between Jamar and him. It’s on his back. And so it’s pressed into Jamar and he says, he’s trying to keep his hand on the gun and hold it in. He says he can feel Jamar’s hand around the gun. And he started screaming to Schwarze immediately, “He’s got my gun, shoot him.” Immediately and Schwarze just starts panicking and he yells at him, “Let him go. Or I’ll fire on you. Let him go” Yeah. A few times. And continually, while this is going on, Ringgenberg is, telling him to shoot Jamar. Ultimately he puts his gun to his head and he says, “I’m going to fire.” And he claims, Schwarze he claims that Jamar said, “I’m not afraid to die” It seems unusual. This is the very first words that Jamar has said to either officer at all. It’s just an unusual first statement to make. But Schwarze, he says, “that’s what he said.” And there’s no one to say it wasn’t. Schwarze he presses his gun against his head. You’re not supposed to do that. He was excited. And under stress. That puts the gun out of chamber. If somebody has an automatic weapon pointed, it’s semiautomatic, you can press on the barrel and it’s called putting the weapon out of chamber and it won’t fire. So he pulls it and he can’t do it. So, he had to pull back. He tells Ringgenberg, “Give me a second.” And he cocks the slide to reengage the weapon. And he puts it back to his head. He says, “I’m going to fire” This time he’s warning Ringgenberg. And he fires. And then at that point, they get out from under him. The press made a big deal of the fact that they found Jamar’s DNA on the weapon. And that’s pretty stupid. I mean, he was shot with an explosive weapon at point blank range. His DNA is on everything within a 20-foot radius. CHIME #2 (skip ahead 30 seconds) There was a young man, a 10-year-old little boy that witnessed Jamar being killed, saw the shooting. He even described the smoke that came from Jamar’s face after being killed. Usually he’ll come to the tree for the anniversary and birthday. Last year, he didn’t, so I believe his mom moved. But he makes it his business to come and give us a hug and just be there, I think about him a lot. NAMES OF THE FALLEN: - Philando Castile - George Floyd - Justine Dammond - Chiasher Fong Vue - Justin Teigen - Rodney King - Trey Davis - Trayvon Martin - Marcus Golden - Michael Kirvelay - Sharice Burns and her baby boy - Jamar Burns-Hill dcpofficial.com/jamar-clark-burns-hill CREDITS: Host: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Executive Producers: Adell Coleman & Chris Colbert Edited & Sound Design: Byron Hunt Producers: Jacqueline Garofano and Ryan Woodhall Associate Producers: Maria Beckett & Quinton Hill Content Distribution: DCP Entertainment See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices Support the show: https://www.dcpofficial.com/saytheirname See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices