Show overview
Rowan's Notes launched in 2024 and has put out 10 episodes in the time since. That works out to roughly 5 hours of audio in total. Releases follow a roughly quarterly cadence.
Episodes typically run twenty to thirty-five minutes — most land between 20 min and 43 min — though episode length varies meaningfully from one episode to the next. None of the episodes are flagged explicit by the publisher. It is catalogued as a EN-US-language News show.
There hasn’t been a new episode in the last ninety days; the most recent episode landed 7 months ago. Published by The Rundown AI.
From the publisher
Rowan's Notes is a podcast where The Rundown's founder, Rowan Cheung, interviews the people shaping the AI industry — breaking down what’s real vs hype and how to leverage it to get ahead in your life, work, and business.
Latest Episodes
Dharmesh Shah on AEO, AI Agents, and the ‘AI App Store’
Being early to SEO helped Dharmesh Shah build HubSpot into a $30B company. Now he's obsessed with something new: AI ranking.It's how to show up when people ask ChatGPT for recommendations instead of Googling.In this conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with HubSpot Founder & CTO Dharmesh Shah (@dharmesh) to unpack:AEO (Answer Engine Optimization): SEO for the AI eraHow to structure content to get cited in AI answersThe hidden risk of low-quality AI contentEffectively using AI agents as teammatesThe coming “AI App Store” for agents__Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www.therundown.ai/subscribeLearn AI hands-on with our AI University: https://rundown.ai/ai-university/
Demis Hassabis on Gemini 3, Google Antigravity, Medical-grade AI, and more
Google just revealed Gemini 3.0 -- its most intelligent AI model yet with SOTA reasoning and 1501 Elo on the LMArena.In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis (@demishassabis) to unpack:Gemini 3 and Google’s AI strategyGoogle's new Antigravity toolMedical-grade AI and proactive healthcareThe skill of "learning how to learn"__Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www.therundown.ai/subscribeLearn AI hands-on with our AI University: https://rundown.ai/ai-university/
Sam Altman on Zero-Person AI Companies, Sora, AGI Breakthroughs, and more
OpenAI just unveiled HUGE developer updates at DevDay 2025 - Apps in ChatGPT, Agent Builder, Sora in the API, and Codex updates that can handle day-long tasks.In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with OpenAI CEO Sam Altman (@sama) to unpack:Sam's Sora AI deepfakes going viralZero-person billion dollar companies run by agentsAI starting to make scientific discoveries on Twitter ChatGPT's 800M weekly users and the new distribution platform__Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www.therundown.ai/subscribeLearn AI hands-on with our AI University: https://rundown.ai/ai-university/
Mark Zuckerberg on AI Glasses, Superintelligence, Neural Control, and More
Meta just unveiled its latest AI glasses at Connect 2025 – including Ray-Ban's with a built-in display, controlled by a band that reads muscle signals.In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg (@zuck) to unpack:The timeline for glasses replacing smartphonesHow the Neural Band will personalize to you over timeBuilding "personal superintelligence" while raising kidsWhy Zuck rebuilt Meta's AI lab within 15 feet of his desk__Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www.therundown.ai/subscribeLearn AI hands-on with our AI University: https://rundown.ai/ai-university/
Demis Hassabis on Curing Diseases with AI, Proactive Agents, AI Relationships, and more
Google just revealed a ton of AI developments at Google I/O 2025 - from AI Mode in Search, VEO 3, proactive agents, Gemini 2.5 upgrades, AI shopping assistants, and more.In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Google DeepMind CEO Demis Hassabis (@demishassabis) to unpack:-How AI could cure all diseases-Advice to the education system-Relationships and reliance on AI-Are humans at risk of becoming dumber?__Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www.therundown.ai/subscribeLearn AI hands-on with our AI University: https://rundown.ai/ai-university/
Satya Nadella on AI Agents, Rebuilding the Web, the Future of Work, and more
Microsoft just revealed its next big AI bets at Build 2025 - from autonomous coding agents, Copilot Tuning, Windows AI Foundry, and more.In this exclusive conversation, Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down with Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella (@satyanadella) to unpack:-Microsoft’s vision for the “agentic web”-Why your next job might be AI agent manager-What happens when 95% of code is AI-generated-Where AI agents will create the most value first__Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www.therundown.ai/subscribeLearn AI hands-on with our AI University: https://rundown.ai/ai-university/
Demis Hassabis on Gemini 2.0, Project Astra, Agents, Gaming with Elon, and more
Google just launched Gemini 2.0, Project Astra, and AI agents for gaming & web browsing. Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down for an exclusive interview with Demis Hassabis, CEO of Google DeepMind (@demishassabis), to discuss the launch, why it matters, and Google’s entry into the AI agent era.__Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www.therundown.ai/subscribeLearn AI hands-on with our AI University: https://rundown.ai/ai-university/
Mustafa Suleyman on Copilot Vision, AI Companions, Infinite Memory, AI Agents, and more
Exclusive: Microsoft just launched Copilot Vision in Edge—the first AI that can navigate the internet with you in real time.Rowan Cheung (@rowancheung) sat down for an exclusive interview with Mustafa Suleyman (@mustafasuleyman), CEO of Microsoft AI, to discuss how it works, infinite memory, AI companions, agents, and more.Find all the details of Copilot Vision on Microsoft’s official announcement blog post.__Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www.therundown.ai/subscribeLearn AI hands-on with our AI University: https://rundown.ai/ai-university/
Logan Kilpatrick on Google’s new Gemini Models, AI Agents, AGI, and more
Google just released two upgraded Gemini 1.5 models 1.5-Pro-002 and 1.5-Flash-002 — achieving new, state-of-the-art performance across math benchmarks.Rowan Cheung (https://x.com/rowancheung) sat down with Logan Kilpatrick (https://x.com/OfficialLoganK), product lead for Google AI Studio, to discuss what makes these models so unique, AI agents, AGI, and more.Listen to the full interview on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQvMdmk8IkMTry the new models on Google AI Studio: https://shortclick.link/djojib__Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www.therundown.ai/subscribeLearn AI hands-on with our AI University: https://rundown.ai/ai-university/
Mark Zuckerberg on Llama 3.1, Open Source, AI Agents, Safety, and more
Meta just released Llama 3.1 405B — the first-ever open-sourced frontier AI model, beating top closed models like GPT-4o across several benchmarks.Rowan Cheung (https://x.com/rowancheung) sat down with Mark Zuckerberg for an exclusive interview, diving into why this marks a significant moment in AI history.Find all the details about Llama 3.1 405B on Meta's official announcement page.Read our exclusive deep dive with the most important quotes here.__Join our daily AI newsletter: https://www.therundown.ai/subscribeLearn AI hands-on with our AI University: https://rundown.ai/ai-university/