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Your library life we live we are alive that's that's what I was talking to my how you feeling Eric I'm getting educators along yeah well man that all changes yeah I said before off Mike I unabashedly love fall out boy cure number 33-year-old man three great fumes you three yeah I count them as they come in but we got Joe Clay here how many cubes if you have any encryptions yeah this is how you intervene in but I don't have an Excel sheet relevant for your first question but Serbia tough interview okay you don't have an Excel sheet that 12 I don't know what you're doing here honestly our producer since it is up that's me okay were to talk some graphic design some animation workbench.tv is your website and that passion project to teach young ends how to do stuff let's do our sponsor for this podcast sweat equity pragmatic realistic business advice hustle interviews sometimes Eric and I should ship sometime noises Damien Baltasar 28 monkeys durable direction if you're watching a video which is on YouTube Facebook origin of just listening you'll just hear that sultry voice limb area yeah because once bona fide run iTunes prion pod bailed other things that just pull pull that audio automatically but for the demographic yeah it keeps its two white we had had a mess it up a little bit developed a Relevant hammer yes they were there Chuck Cameron so let's do our sponsors Grasshopper phones you got business right Joe is so business phone lines how may people you call and you're like is this the bizarre house number or is this there just their cell phone, never misses a rigid self as noted tell yet but a lot of people need to act bigger than they are need act mortgage and especially people doing startups you noticed you need to act professional that's what you need a second phone line how does knowing how to answer the phone I answer hello when I answer my phone if I have a business plan when will I felt myself some angry so grasshoppers and app you can have in your phone and it will give you different kind of screen so you know it's that that still your Verizon or AT&T line or whatever personal line is and it's a scalable phone option it's the entrepreneurs phone line our listeners get 50 bucks off if they use the link and will put this in the episode description it's a tried grasshopper.com/sweat try Grasshopper.com/sweat like he's sweat get nasty real sultry and he got to come up with a better example go for it boy right now my only other one they brought us wet so what nuts where the only two I got off top my head but off camera but not sweat and fumes really taking this good time an area I national business and let's get Eric's favorite part we got to get it officially started God Almighty that's how you officially start the podcast I like old-school radio call-in that start every program with your your call into signed like that much like if you go on workbenches YouTube channel you've got I see the thumbnails have your branding on everything in a similar fashion it's the same thing it just irritates it because it's I let her do it to get you ramped up yeah get me fired alive and have seen he is always good it's a it's a miracle it's a little cheesy it's legit oh yeah it's cheesy for sure it's like a old it's it we soon football it's an old it's an old missing Ole Miss football that they have the hottie toddy I don't I don't know what it means it was in our fraternity we had some kind of chant like that just my opinion on its pleasant change yeah I know I'm not hoping or if anything all those reasons are just making it better for pay out I'll switch if I can find some better just like we talk about writing copy or brand name like companies and name a lot of friends and stuff I got a lady you got me at my jokes in the room it's a 7/10 you gotta beat it in the in the writers room what's going on I'm glad you're on the podcast it's a little hectic throw out this you that everything is throw out all your your handles for for the people Instagram all that stuff usually workbench TV I think on Instagram were no twitters workbench_TV because there's some weird Canadian like workbench DIY program that's got that yet and when you search for the workbench are getting a lot of workbench tutorials how to make a workbench, then silly little dancer putting my graphic designer put in animation tutorial now you want tutorial though it is graphic design animation motion okay it's want to clarify everything Eric did a lot of research before names I told him I intentionally don't do research so I can ask the questions of people when we actually do that on purpose because with Alexa just because he's lazy we will follow me, shut it gave me hope it can be both work well for both suit and tell me about a wide you started what is it you know give me the who what when where why all that well first I was having, slow year click two years ago my main business builder party so would you like graphics animation production all the stuff and so I was like you know it is time to come to share some of my knowledge the people himself I wanted to like a long time ago there's like some people to restart noun is like a man I could do that you know you have and just at the time is like I didn't have the time to do it and that just wasn't the right time I guess for it and there's all this like beginner stuff that didn't exist when I'd started so, what I wanted to do but then all of the market, filled up and do that so I figured I just start to make more advanced tutorials that for the stuff that I'd want to see that was another interesting it's like the Tyco's telling Damien something about they should be doing a podcast similar to this is nothing like two years ago I was telling yeah more as a recruiting tool I think to get younger people to follow over and then you can maybe you develop a relationship with some of these people that are into it but that's that's interesting how that kind of parallel thinking happened and were not even what 7 miles away were your in South Tampa right will assimilate no head of the murder of the murder capital your my hood yeah that's what I was just pitching about trying to sell our house and buy a new one contingent on a stone house that serial killer just the light went on your day 35 grand on the house price so that you will yeah I mean obviously it sucks but it's also kind of interesting way it's like here like Ford motors the news and like that's like not even a weekend in Chicago I'll try to keep a rant pretty quick but but I did journalism this twofold why this was a disaster of an investigation a the the churlish function should be they should be ashamed of themselves they should be flocking there should be some kind of punishment for them for sensationalizing this made it five times worse than it needed to be they called a serial killer before it is technically a serial killer I think I need is a take three I think thickly three I think I got back I go with the major league and the hum of the the speech is all going okay right three that's a winning streak or a heart attack that's my role at least and it was just at when they had to kills it was just a bus stop that was similar that was it to so you really move around MO yet there's no end there is no like he left the pentagram is yet you have all the fun puzzles and things that they normally leave around for the cops just to do that's a sociopath I bet he was on pipette there's some pharmaceutical involvement I think I bet opiates because that does change your brain chemistry anyway were getting down to a sloppy road the other part of that is PR will this all will come back and into the fold PR date the Police Department dictated this message so poorly that they just kept leaving it open ended like they wanted to write a TV show on it like they were like the truth either this guy on video he's he's either doing a job he's either Jazzercise and through the neighborhood like gave this like ridiculous in areas like or use a similar white skin is like why did you do press conference of this like this makes no sense real quick I just think that your audience is probably China figure at this moment how drugs opiates and graphic design are all gonna come back together that's the magic of me all dovetail back because my eyebrow went straight up like Dragon like what good your voice of the people today that so as to do dictating your message right I think chosen a good job of that type I went through and all I went back in your catalog before he started his I want to see what it looked like in the beginning you channel the reason we start talking is like you did a humble pride post like hey we get 10,000 subscribers on site ownership I his armor looking out a while ago and knows that this is really cool I on the fly have to do a lot of graphic design stuff like smaller stuff so I can send it to a good designer like and you are Damien really do it I'll get the concept down but sometimes I said I need tutorials and you can burn funk and hours trying to find like a good stuff and know it's learning how to do some more reading about earlier today the just how to take a logo make a white me like I have is like I was trying to do this for a while and then I looked it was like a minute video as I just change that utilized the site that is it in Photoshop okay media that's what is yeah said you'll never make it at the end. But so it dovetails back is your your your creating a brand through this on a passion project not too dissimilar from what were trying to do with this podcast a little bit were you know we don't know what's in a come of it we'd like should initiate and talk a little business gazettes mainly were any if I went to a dinner party the conversation would somehow get over there anyway which my wife hates but somehow yet your business is life that will mean it's in a lot of it's a small medium business that's life no for a lot of business owner Damien over there look it's it consumes everything his wife's business owner to it's it's a lot in your conversation because sometimes you can come and go help oh you should be doing this this and this is his wife the bad stylus jingo oh you should do you with the shellac nails you should get some Moroccan oil put in the hair yeah I know my hair stuff good her words meant that I was in the salon industry man I know about you want to start slowing off talking I'll rip that ship how did I know price per square foot I know any chairs you need I know the commission rates all that ship you should put a runway in their red carpet so after they're done you look in your eye right now I'm excited to start here decided what that Ceará will try to record the safety and this is interprofessional now we know as I was attempting Internet database yet and it's bad love aggregates artifacting and freezing so there sometimes at your max and drumming out for the lands headroom the show for everybody who is not born after 1990 something to do that hacked into the TV station was that no Max Headroom is I don't know what it is like the Nobel Pepsi commercial guy like accent room that was that roof that yeah they did there was something that that you guys look like Chicago yes somebody like contacting the local TV stand here but there was a mass I got SSRI so yes you got pretty much right there looks okay on the prowl for knowing that random reason hello good underwriters distributes up parcels of the will they also admit Noblesville spoofed it in back to the future when the Ronald Reagan got up and like I run away and they did the whole little thing when we first goes into the future Café I to retro Café yeah, some random kid in there I think assault not too long ago the thing with Elijah when Elijah wasn't out yet and had the arcade ghetto yeah we're having your hands yeah that's the fun part I like watching old movies over again is really out hey that's that guy that I know forgot about. He made it will happen the guy next to him that he didn't suck Kirsten Dunst and Jumanji the day about 10 years whatever it is we know the old and the kanji will swear to say we'll just see the new one they just shrug her down I fulfill I will was cheaper to buy on Amazon for the kids want the original data bungee things like how I got it is what I like a lot in it yeah yeah whatever is not to give up because while it is when the like where's the rock I heard one of the Kevin Hart I heard it's really good actually it is is it you saw kids note no need for kids to watch but herself has caring community, is that redhead from a Doctor Who and also plays Gomorrah and battles of cardiology or some parties I guess she's the blue haired blue chick in guarding the value of the really like the sister nebula sorry nebulae yeah yeah that's it that's conflicted Gavin, hot redhead I'm not into redhead sorry I decide not to ginger kinda guy no fence so my thing, I'm too pale or too dark something about and I hear you if you talk too much so that's what character can't say to the dark why is it just to play it safe I say to paling is that you Darnell you can't that's legal is able to kill I thought this is not telling you I know what I find my wiener gets a Boner for certain things like open you up here right this is not a PC show by any means so and I'm not anything terrible I don't say I'm hating anybody just the wiener wants with the wind once it's okay can you be more click here if you're in the DVD AA like that's your yesterday Outlook might might my wife is ill or find me trying to double in my wife is her, she's like some light bright and damn near white so I don't know what I thought about her hellos and then some. BII can't learn all these acronyms and what you're talking about is a real test for one and were shoehorning here to talk about Dixon balls for 15 minutes now that I thought of it like that with you Dick and balls that he instinctively meals back-and-forth that we will try to edit this psychologist Dick and balls in business that duplicates the goal and maybe a spinoff it works for me like member shoehorning this Internet and a very hectic day Eric's a little stressed as a my is finding serenity that's my nonstress time yeah this is the fight this is gone silly topics yeah that's what we have yoga mats and ship over there and I want to get a funky punching bag thank you we can hang one thing let me think yes anymore Justice just bagged 30 seconds just if I can punch something I thought I think it be cathartic to a definite yes drive-by punch what you got all that stuff is just one Pam okay I feel better now that you like a speed bag and it was good closer it got hit on a nice thought of that those are so noisy it's true that these guys next to a city record will I can hear light them on a conference call behind us so it's you know the walls are thin already use that glass to the wall technique Yahoo that there can hear everything I just take a ceiling tile and Dragon leave eight trying to take all day son all day will do that with this I I have a couple pointers like that that it wrote down Wells Fargo not currently sponsored by Dragon dictate I'm in love Dragon dictate I've got no qualms about it there not a sponsor we just want to give out good things that are good you know good things that are good yeah it makes a wedding but it works good with use mu.com is reporting stuff that's a good thing that's good man log got all his own pilot that I write you down for the next day you really think so don't worry I will be in the show notes in the blog post I forget to put up Jonah 2 yeah I know one thing when asked about we just a tinfoil hat podcast which is conspiracy theory podcast Assam Tripoli the Gotland listeners but also like crazy listeners and Eric and I've been looking through the comments independent of each other talking about it we both went through all floors and ice just got forward one night start answering a bunch of find him and I was looking at yours and theirs so me people whining about like this is to know can you slow it down it's like beachfront composite like pause the video it's in the video tutorial positive actually had some people tell me before like a long time and I like one commenter lowers like that that YouTube is a feature really slow down the video I was disabled I do have speed summary three was likely a watch of it is only capturing the mounding of native English speakers ligaments address you can write something like the next slick person that said that to me obviously just like that we could watch and we have to be you podcast it has to be nobody sounds like I do not accident a lot like that but no pill what I'm I'm talking more one I hope yeah what have is that there was a loud ITS wrong how might this pleases inkwell is that purple drink what's the weirdest thing that's come out of you doing this you been doing for two years passion project side project kinda like I am guessing it's similar because we did this because it's like I got some to say about I got all this information I feel like and I like I like giving advice to people that don't ask for credit but I also like interviewing people right like heaven old buddies come in industries initiate what's what's we're think about it comments or weird messages are you know any that I think that's interesting that you come around the world people are using it which is I saw you had some kind of French translation may be on one of them oh that there was a guy that had done it to tour… Were Willie did it before I did I didn't know existed some bills told me about it so was in French so thankfully had taken some French I was able to figure out what he did 09 there's a better version of something I did so I incorporate that into the download for no I think that's cool I mean we talk about you know a lot of the stuff are doing like, Jesus did like the universal language or saying anything so work or start to think of everything in the context of life right how can we make a little bit more global it's not a much more effort you know but you're at your tutorials you don't really need the audio right sometimes you do but it's harder I'd say probably only because I don't do step-by-step so I can escape a lot of things if you're not in aftereffects user like like a beginner's like I really get all of the things I'm doing usually yeah but in its and is a narrow audience on yeah if you're if you're advanced enough you could probably pick up some stuff sometimes I don't really explain what things are exactly like a minute settings guide I hate when people just while circular all the time I get like reels from people or whatever different ways that worked and it's like okay like I copied a tutorial like I did this like he doesn't know what he is doing disease is not taking the thing in advancing it is just taking something with wheels did in presenting that it in a different way that the zoning assigned something so everybody have all like this you guys have to collaborate so much with other video production companies animation Studios whatever so you when you're getting a file all the default settings are all wacky or they have a way of doing stuff isn't notices its world people present in the work like the stuff that I see from people like you can pick out if you've seen like there's a huge guide video copilot Andrew Kramer he does like these just crazy tutorials only in you see his stuff and people real-time like this is this likely presented to like it is my work on it no that's not yours you know they are doing the tutorial and then think about it and what the rent because they technically did it place I used to work at where the creative director was asking us I mean this happens everywhere I've seen other people tell the same story but basically Craig Dir. comes in is okay we just think of these these people you looking to hire somebody and then it's like well that's an inter-grammar tutorial so and it soon as that happened in the in the Place I was at initially took the DVD's of that long ago of the computer and just throw trash like that is immediately is like no well he sent whelming to the Google reversed something searched I know that was another I know that prevalent like I figured like I figured like the stand-up comedy community were like if you steal jokes basically what that like a child will not exactly stolen like it's like if somebody well I mean I guess in common it's a little different because in comedy the punch line is always the portal and there's not really like however you'd tell it it changing what it's knowing that it's it's it's a very similar because you can have a premise right that is only unique to that person right that's how a lot of these guys get caught one thing is what people think is that they can go off and tell the joke differently and that that's a different thing right but so it is the same but I'm saying it's same and different yeah and calmly they get way more like shut down on doing and in our world it's more like older, did something a little different than that you know it's it's knock down yeah little bit it's all because you have to you your iterations count and yours were czars are just like you just building to something where there are whiffs of tartar comics you know you you're working on a bit to make it tight where is Joel's final thing if you like the graphic designer for lack of a better term like graphic design community they they like seeing the iterations in the process allow the touch her right the flip if I can chime in one of the main thing especially if the just a little advice anybody out there who is doing things that they know they have Andrew Kramer or whatever other tutorials out there you're more than welcome to take that material learned from it do it and then do something as simple as go and shoot your own footage and do the same affect on your own footage and lease that shows that you an instant how to apply the effect and I think that that's when the main things that I specimen graphic designers come and play it's almost similar as someone you know what happens in music and as you have is a lot of industry people in music and she liked it might be McNally actually got like five samples and three loops that already came with the package you didn't really create anything unique you may have rearranged a slightly different but yet totally understand what that means is mean and that's and it's a it happens most special and new budding graphic artist they they that's their education they know they get it from from online and they start hot expand upon and I think that's one of the bigger things that I think on that it's overlooked even Andrew Kramer and yourselves on strong workbench always pushing people to go I go take this and apply to your project at least let me see it in an application as opposed to just being quite literally it's the exact same effect that's partly to why I'll get some complaints were once lowered some is like okay you show me from the beginning or what did you do for this waiver unless a click of a really important setting American go often and say yeah okay the setting is 50 for this in 20 for that because then you're not learning how to use it and the point is to take what I make and expand upon it that's kind like us to watch tutorials nowadays like some else comes up something interesting even if it's something I know like a lot of times if I have some down time I watch it because sometimes I'll pick up a little piece of something that they didn't like I didn't even do that were in a like whatever like because even if you're the meekest person you know you still have some no insight in the shirt or something sure no I died I think that's what YouTube is really great for is I that we learn we have to use all the time because it's stay here will they know and we handle so many different services you know so it's like it's yes there is regular green fire you didn't know like you know what you would've heard outside of work and stuff like your at your house like oh okay this like peace in my toilet broke what do I do to fix that and some is like hey here's this exact model of toilet this is the handle that nicotine elixirs like we manage the stuff that we may sketch were very proud about that we didn't put much behind it but we made a sketch like how to be a man sketch toilet because we grew up in this era were like were not handy and definitely and almost embarrassingly have to look up how like how to properly spell your dad or something will you try it first and you break everything and then go back how to feel that you were slightly taken apart and you break the thing that you need you like oh now I know how this works but it's broken every time and then yeah wife pitches at you in this like an okay I won't buy a new one but liked on the figure this out (about what does it mean Adobe After Effects seems like it's like limitless units potential for manipulation sort of thing and Eric actually Eric's videoconference my ex-wife just to give an ex-wife really don't have fever and ex-wife chose man I got Jesus Christ lately ever life will relive IK wow not look I was looking at your site Joe and I looked at the blog and it was like literally the first sentence I'm lost I can't like I thought about looking in the video graphic design stuff and then it was like five minutes and I was like no I can't do this is this is a lament different there there are some simple stuff that that last post is actually kind of comforted okay no known stones pretty computer at a time on number format yeah things okay okay looks really because for some reason I don't know why saw a lot of stuff I do like programming related and as I used to do some of that and what's what's annoyed me about aftereffect sometimes there sometimes like functions in it that you need that you don't have the better like a single function in another language like number format like PHP which is that some bad a lot of stuff in it's like number format this number you go in it is outlining a number with buildings in it yet although Prelude met here you'd like at least as far as I know maybe it's in there somewhere I don't know but like I had actually reverse engineer how to build that junction was on St. like even you you're making these videos you know what you're doing and you have to go reverse engineer Samuel sometimes I have to learn stuff and some you know like other times there's people way smarter than me that figure out things to yeah yeah problem-solving at the end of the day it's it it's really a similar process am sure to for figuring out any difficult process problem whatever that's why life like trying to do stuff that's outside my zone to help that problem so as as you grow to yeah because it all go okay watching this tutorial on how to do grout for my tile actually what subconsciously helps me figure out how to use software in reverse engineer from there or apply I need that grout fresh fresh and flush against the tile just like we need this design to be flush just you know for whatever reason it will help me contextualize a lot and want to learn it as a man you'll throw that info out as soon as you can know God yes now I grab you guys especially to some other guy is just as many of the applicant been an expert in it oh yeah I own a trial business for last year hashtag that God did all day yeah now if I more if I'm doing the middle the night I'm just by myself like just listen to podcasts just like this Friday night when doing more hundred percent on the posted lightly what I do you guys suggest feels like that old little Simpson joker were like Marge's learning piano just like it just teaching piano 2 inches like I said that they wanted 11 lesson ahead of the kids basically like what is I feel like that's a lot of a lot of management nowadays just because were to spread out just, everything so segmented fragmented out from a management standpoint discussed the Internet box with everybody's head there's too much school stuff out trying to think of the worst a recorded voice and I said I lost applying as live video interrupted that's fine whatever the reason I'm going to yeah that's what the producer does sit here and inform you of the situation will we may have one coming up later following her over there. You write it only to close over there like putting together yeah the tubes are it's me know it's not a will and do it I understand I'm I'm in the process of trying to get it to the point we get used to having this kind of a situation on the backend because I would love for this Texaco no ocean here behind the classroom went to the roof to have the talent just me on how we piping in your earphones always like yeah Robert quivers out further like they're doing that thing are you just part echoing what he said but just like a live fraction of a second later so messily break their people audiences love that audiences love the audio that Don is a doubles okay get my children but all in all that's that's the worst in Prague a Mother's Day gift or gift if the copy the person right in front of you it's like a warm-up game and my this is this is the worst okay yeah that's what kids do the focal me yeah this did not touch you yeah putting it free country brought Jeffrey country free country that means on the deck he said it's a free country never push you yeah anything about that free country pitch right to bear arms my power arms whether or not I will yard and drumming is working on that how I was going for the dead pine thousand and although I was just trying to get all the way to bear arms basically I said I queued up for five minutes oh yeah oh yeah I got an offer one day the full circle with all the others are talking live earlier should do my daily diary touch back to it as you have wakes up and set beforehand like your you to say it oh well like way way before you worry in this weird phrase and see if I can sell it won't last year my New Year's resolution was to say Kirsty more and so I think I've done a good job and it's in the lexicon outside of the poor said that like three or four times a been here in a good because it's now it's woven into my vernacular it is the Meebo was named earthy yeah yeah you need to name it something so why not maybe together looks like McCarthy it does I cancel the slogan for this podcast should be good with the advice I think but I think you get a totally different audience sweat equity well after the pragmatic but pragmatic girth he advises that case went by the movie so what tell us what tell us about the industry what's going on how about this habit give advice 10 years younger you that wanted to get into this time travel give advice yourself for you or you just taught given advice to classrooms read really start learn is the start of the environmental I've probably stolen from somebody am sure but now it's it's parallel theory like Seth Godin noon ship and or was really a look at things just start now we don't listen we don't listen to those those Silicon Valley anticancer types that are those higher up business guys that's why we created this actually one like anti-Tim Ferris here so your maybe you can't like it everything you one like for exactly that's about it seriously a decent anointment it also goes or I listen to all the software podcasting to be like or I just get like seven of your friends that are billionaires then you sit know why commentator conference room and wrote a book on how to manage her $80,000 a month pharmaceutical business yeah thanks for the advice Tim swing five people's likelihood is make a product yeah okay which one tell me so this that's why I go so specific and like mu.com reference or some like that because there is it it sounds jilted sometimes but it it it I heard Colin Quinn say's specificity is the language of the universal wrote that down and remembered it I really like that because I feel like my the way I look at comedy and a lot of the communication and language I try to be overly specific unnecessarily because it's kind of funny or sometimes but I do that sometimes even workbench doctors yeah yeah it's fun what so just start now you have the motivation to do it my my first thing I know I know nothing about how to start to want to be this kind of artist I would say I tried to find like a Mashable class or something get that bait Linda Gladden limit as far as I can as a prism I'm thinking I'm thinking of when I was when I had this mindset to do workbench stuff right I was like I was Artie kind of in it and I'm thinking like the time is whenever you have it in the lake it's now right right yeah it's an appendage to what you're doing already like this podcast is timing cost-effective and it's a good way to get her voice out and literally don't have to spend that many hours a week or so it's not and it's fine so it's not that bad and I'm sure when you start seeing results of people, subscribing that's when it kind of felt fun you know effluent is the first part of doing like some kind of like content strategy like this even if it's not like focused on making money anything it it's that thing of like your print out there for a while lit and unless you have a big budget to put add money or some it's just to be like I am sending us 100 views that are under a message in a bottle for me to do with how it is I started as I started action video instead of YouTube so I started putting stuff up on there and I'm like very cool and it actually got a decent amount of use I know what the deal is with that but just didn't feel like the right type of place I've made a suggestion to go to me I was acting as an Internet for me on the hooves man they just bought that camera company live stream mix bottom out they want to be the third player now and is Facebook's down number two I think video rights which might be three I don't know but as far as like like not watching video games video some places blows my mind that it could be threatened if I can blows my life that is fine. It's insane kids these days that they're actually good about people doing leave and start unit is random stuff and which like all sorts of stuff like I said I have these very very Blake takes on different things and YouTube and like you know if a 3YI like when I went to censor yourself you will hear psychotic artist to its anatomy and I mean like a wimp or hoax everyone yeah me that all porn set yeah okay everything is nothing here that I was kind yeah that's in a separate graphic video right here in your normal everyday you know what are your you're like nine you know yeah yeah whatever yeah so that's what else is on twitch there's a there's people like I watched the granted I don't want to let stuff on twitch by know they have switch usually watching on YouTube because I'm older I guess I will and I'm not there at like 6 o'clock when people doing things like you do that I watch that does he make things this child hold I like to make stuff so he does switch dreams and stuff and then there's a guy that does like these prop making things like reprints and phone stuff and that's punish props and he does stuff on there as well though at times catch people's live stream stuff later on but I'm not on twitch watching it but it's a content that was generated therein so you go on YouTube to go to twitch one I'm usually usually people posting a shortened version of it let Mrs. know I'm scribbling literally hours I don't usually have three hours worth the time to yet we but we will sit there and we were trying to figure out a process to there's I think I will be asked if we start using that as a live broadcasting software we like that the Meebo camera supposed to be able to get you on a few streams at a time but they have some weird thing were like you can either do Facebook live only or you can do YouTube and and for me at the same time and so it's like okay but you know ideally you want to have the video up on all three I say but nobody like do not take checking YouTube and DiMeo like to check Facebook so going live on Facebook makes we don't sense but remember we just a tinfoil hat and they get us in every time like I subscribed a workbench their channel every time you post the video I get an email notification right under the Rome open accidentally you're in you're more like this easily on Facebook more people you check that will always me taking were not going on for me oh to see what's new on mimeo for me as a profession where it makes sense for that it makes sense for I know the half of what we talked about as a hard very unlimited in the way it was like I feel like that's for finished work that's like how it feels but maybe that's all you survey it has to be like cures like real professional video they are naturally separate themselves from my main business stuff is like my main actual company workers on their W a means I would if I'm right now playing armchair quarterback I'd say just make just take everything you've done on that channel and just uploaded to mimeo and it's all good with the keywords and all that stuff all that stuff helps in the e-learning thing is really what they're focusing on so like premium premium subscription model stuff that happens that that like a FC that come along that I don't want people have to like pay for things unless it's specific like is there a subscription that people can just like sign up to look at YouTube rather than go to Freeman the freemium strategy which is a lot of apps do it right so you you get a nap it's free but like to really use it you gotta pay for box or whatever it is it hey it's the same thing the podcast or starting your concern see that a lot more Sam Tripoli was telling us he does bonus content and then for anybody that does patriot on donations which I guess is I saw a PayPal button on yours yet I could have paid his patrons way better now for one reason that such a good think of do as I feel like sometimes my patron I struggle actually like get like the word tears and stuff done just just because a lot of times Kleinwort comes in and then I have to do that yeah I mean I told John Jacobs who was on tinfoil podcast just had a album come out I was like look you want organic an organic strategy it's a little corny but you should anybody buys your album and they screenshot it send it to you should freestyle the name on my Facebook live people love that and they would share it it would get the help on that on their in is not doing what you know comedian I didn't follow through his own doubts deftly done to look like that, like wind over the old spice was doing the the old spice guy was like showing out people like 10 years ago but oh yeah, that if you like you can tweet to my thing at a time and like everyone so I like you they pick somebody and they had him dutifully 24 hours me like that like customize videos toward little pieces it's it's okay could you do this in the whatever production team I don't know they must have liked some just a team stuff oh yeah he was that they like pop it out like immediately oh that pride was the program when I was like people like had specific supplicating to do a video would like a toothbrush in a workmanlike like a 24 hour film fest but it was like only a guy in Terry Cruz knows the Isaiah Mustapha order when you know the other guys after right is right I told him to get rid of commitment I know I'm with you I should to double back in? This is like what I guess try to think which way to go with this what you want to do with this like what you what are you getting out of having this channel I think I I would see that is like you can look at it like a freemium model like like you're doing right eventually you're gonna want to try to get something financially out of it may be direct or indirect is that'll make it better yeah I mean so right now I kind of it's kind of somewhat of a vehicle for other things I have like it like the products inscriptions in the cell and molecular stuff but at the same time a muscle thinking of doing more like specific tutorial play groupings so where is right now making all the tutorials and I'm never to stop doing those free leases far as I can right now but those will always be there you know but the other something of like an actual like a tutorial series or some like that where it actually I can sell that as a unit yeah that's way single tutorial probably not get sold but I mean Jill one specific thing with 10 different managers showing everything they need to know is it so there goes all those anymore I ran those be more from the ground up versus my normal like here's the thing we have to either later this I do and that's it you know little bit more basic stuff you talk about what had not even that exactly basic but like I say it with one of the one something of doing his expression tutorial or expression series and I'm thinking of doing that to where we start from the beginning and it goes in a more like programming in depth like here's what you would do this and whatever you know versus like hey this is cool affect saga expression as this is like a snippet of code and aftereffects that you can use it to like run other things basically like to thank you for telling love with you like Eric got it the only link things together or dynamiting bitcoin what I wish I've missed out on that pretty heavily it's kind of like you can take some have liked for controls of you can bring up your own control to control multiple layers of different things there really powerful you do a lot of stuff with it that's kind of convert topic to actually specifically explain and like one now how do better under five cents IR Inc. in your elevator and yeah write it up yet what I mean that's why we this is the podcasts good you can kinda take the time to explain something that's a little confusing that's why you're doing these videos it's it's hard to I we do video for almost everything now like I don't want to do any phone calls with clients because this is so much visual stuff and it's like now now let's do phone I'll go now let's just reschedule it because it's not you can try to explain to me like guess some things in the talking like this create a ruling, is to help you, Howdy pixels we talk about the early pixels right well you know never that, that's the measurement you use pocket pocket five it is these things up there on what you like to now turn on speaking of in the camera like so I also production stuff and having having those around my house is great but then I'm watching the dictatorial and like color grading and that she's talking to me like what you talking I like the this morning I was watching something about collaborating in and she's like okay so were to repair this thing like prepare what are you talking about I turn mine off yeah it's it's hard my kids see the file, change the names of the notes I can think of something else like Beyoncé my uncle had ever detached his door from it because people if you can eat if you are outside you said open deluxe open Gloriana jet open a door ceiling again, and detach the snow yet he has his whole house Morehouse hooked up to the Lexan problem was that he was a humongous queue society like let's open the door and open the door from the thought of Isaac this is not good now you baby girl it's been well hey baby girl.you doing about I can't believe it took this long to get keyless entry door houses like what we had our car for 15 years I said I go for the stupid metal key in my house, I agree right but always late and I think always get the one like we've got technologies in a failure at some point so get the analog, you can always put the key and if you need to that we have a thumbprint one fingerprint one and I'm like this thing to break I want something that hasn't punch code I thought finger print and then also an addict glory hole for your key because that's my theory with all like that, smart home stuff if I can't turn on the lights physically that I don't want to have a yeah my app to do it. Let's carry I could I feel like I have bad luck with a lot of stuff to do and it'll break down and the moment you need it the most have had that happen to me a couple times were used have a wink that was controlling stuff. It's a hub okay it's like all the other that she went had Home Depot to get like loud laugh I do since then live in Like that I'll actually have since been able to put that into my Phillips you set up which is nice that works like instantly and great but the week one would like fail at random times and latency for the morning like a camera to go to sleep a good turn off lights and it just doesn't yeah like okay great I like the power goes off and for some reason it set to automatically like turn them on slick power is off you I do like I do like this I use I have TTT for a lot of that and I do we have the Phillips you in our place for a few lights and I like I like that it will turn the lights red if there's like a smoke detector goes off were there or something like that you take in warmth or chicken gas station chicken warm bread whatever fried chicken we have laying around it interests automatically turn to that that this martyrdom stuff scares me that it's kind of why we I don't have one of the any of the voice activated things at her house I'm fine with that here is God knows what she thinks we talk about in this room when the vice will verify the calyx profile please yeah know they got a dossier on is what I mean they can't really advertise to us because it's so were so random over the paragraph and I don't think they did like in one sentence will talk about Lexi sleep that what is sensory deprivation tank and like great cubes you know that's going to call that guy's attached is a business that is how far we in here what's the minute count for producer think we gotta wrap it up in the minutes or something here that tells you that Jesus go to the letter sounds like you're done and I think we started at, 20 I think were 45 ends up 40 minutes boom I found it any advice just made that up like that fixed it if you any advice you want to give out there anything short you want to throw out there that I didn't pre-ask you what you want to talk about like a good host would anything in your industry any or reduce pitch about some if you want me like I said before tubes copying people that's a big thing you know I feel like there's a lot of people that just some kids like it because my wife the teacher right so a lot of times the the there is the you get like the two groups I feel like now there's like kids that really want to learn something in there like driven to you know do whatever and then you are, I guess is probably true of all generations but in whatever way I see now being old 34-year-old so if your you have these other people that basically want to been given to them now like and if I feel it's a little bit more than when I was a kid probably because when I was a kid he had let go to an encyclopedia or you know whatever the lake gets information and now it's just like people just like old you didn't tell me exactly how to do it you know and and I've that's kind of what my tutorials are kind of geared to not do look, I want to know the reason though because I think it's frustrating to double back when you're in the middle of that right now the reason is that you learn one way and the other way you don't learn like if you you either learn how to get information or you learn how to like figure out how to get information so you think the speed that common I saw was like why can't you tell might slow it down and no break everything down you think more Darwinism like that's just half sometimes as people are people that are learning in on their there just new to it they don't understand the people that leave comments now is the final test this I don't know the board laying out three comments on YouTube his comments on YouTube narcissistic I had to read the ones were never on arms at every site I think a reply to pretty much everybody I replied nicely and the guy the try to accuse me of actually like stealing some else's tutorial or something 1000 interesting where is basically just like okay so people can have the same idea that's not loud apparently and I'm supposed to know what everybody else in the tutorial spaces that were occasionally has some data set this is my reply was like okay will assuming I stole this one what about the other like 70 done at that time right what about that that the other guy 70 guys like was like people commenting on when I did like 60 back or something like what okay they probably saw one the copied of you that I think you got it okay yeah I've had comedian still my material and I don't there's not much you can do about it except confront them but usually I they die out anyway yeah and I don't I'm not worried about it and now lives I've seen people that are basically like within a few days posted to the world that similar to mine is different enough or whatever but I'm like I don't care yeah yeah it's funny to read their comment silicone man you're the only person on YouTube doing the stuff it's like that's funny because I get that sink in a comment like Virgo that we had people accusing us or throwing up illuminati gang signs during t