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Risky Science Podcast

Risky Science Podcast

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Modeling Every Risk for Every Client with Willis' Ben Fidlow

May 13, 202625 min

The Wrong Model for the Wrong Job With Roy Wright

May 6, 202624 min

The LA Fires and the Risk Market Value Chain With Joy Chen

Apr 28, 202642 min

How Catastrophe Models Work and Where They Fall Short With Anil Vasagiri

Apr 22, 202627 min

Why Mixing Catastrophes With Prediction Markets Is More Dangerous Than It Looks With Jamie Pietruska

Apr 15, 202648 min

AI, Models, and the Limits of Climate Assumptions with Sarah Kapnick

Apr 13, 202627 min

Ep 35Can Models Still Work When Everything Changes at Once? With Christiane Baumeister

This week I speak with Dr. Christiane Baumeister, a professor at the University of Notre Dame. Her research focuses on global oil market dynamics — disentangling the supply and demand forces that drive prices and developing forecasting models that are designed to perform precisely when markets are most volatile.

Apr 1, 202652 min

Ep 34(Preview) China's Growing Risk Data Moat and the US Brain Drain With Hui Su

A conversation with Dr. Hui Su, a professor at the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology and one of the leading researchers working at the intersection of satellite data, artificial intelligence, and extreme weather forecasting. Become a member of Risk Market News for access to the full member episode.

Mar 25, 20265 min

Ep 33Confidence as a Service With Eric Winsberg

We speak with Eric Winsberg: a philosopher of science at Cambridge and the University of South Florida, who has thought hard about what happens when models move from the lab into the world and into policy and markets.

Mar 18, 20261h 0m

Ep 32(Preview) The $232 Billion Storm No One Is Pricing With Moody's Chris Lafakis

Chris Lafakis and his team did the first analysis to combine Moody's catastrophe modeling infrastructure with a full macroeconomic model. The results are eye opening.This is a preview of the Risky Science Podcast Member Edtion.To get access to the full episode sign up to become a free member of Risk Market News.

Mar 11, 202610 min

Ep 31How Hurricane Risk Really Gets Priced with Dr. Ben Collier

Dr. Ben Collier, a professor at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, and his fellow researchers published a recent paper that uses twenty years of Florida data to trace a direct line from cat model revisions to the premiums homeowners actually pay. The finding? A one-dollar increase in modeled expected loss translates to roughly five dollars in higher premiums. That multiplier — and what's driving it — is what we're unpacking today.In the episode we dive deep into the findings.The paper: Pricing Climate Risk: Hurricane Models and Home Insurance Over the Last Two DecadesSubscribe to Risk Market News

Mar 4, 202655 min

Ep 30Black Box Problems, Machine Judgment and the Rules Nobody's Written Yet With Daniel Schwarcz

A conversation with Daniel Schwarcz, professor at the University of Minnesota Law School, where he teaches insurance law, contract law, tort law, and financial regulation and his academic work sits at the intersection of AI governance and insurance regulation. (00:00) - Introduction (00:17) - Guest background: From P&C attorney to insurance law professor (02:13) - AI in insurance today: back-office efficiency vs. underwriting and claims (10:06) - Is AI "locked and loaded" for underwriters and claims departments? (12:24) - The 50-state regulatory problem and its compounding complexity (22:05) - Catastrophe modeling and AI in property underwriting (30:19) - Why disclosure usually forestalls regulation rather than protecting consumers (38:40) - Schwarcz's proposed fix for shadow insurance (43:40) - "Obamacare for Homeowners Insurance": the case for insurance exchanges (48:56) - Five-year outlook: where is the insurance industry headed?

Feb 18, 202653 min

Ep 29AI Risk, Markets and Modeling the Unknown With Daniel Reti

In this episode of the Risky Science Podcast we are joined by Danie Retil, co-founder of Exona Labs, a startup building AI risk modeling and quantification tools.

Feb 11, 202642 min

Ep 28Prediction Markets, Parametrics and Rethinking Weather Risk With Dr. Partick Brown

For decades, insurers, reinsurers and energy companies have relied on models, parametrics, and traditional hedges to manage hurricane and weather exposure. But what if markets could continuously price those risks — in real time — and let anyone transfer or hedge them instantly?In this episode I’m joined by Dr. Patrick Brown, Head of Climate Analytics Interactive Brokers to talk about modeling the models, forecast contracts, and whether prediction markets could become the next tool in the risk-transfer stack for the institutional market.

Feb 4, 202653 min

Ep 27Greenland, Venezuela and the New Political Risk Model Reality with WTW’s Sam Wilkin

In this episode of the podcast, we speak with geopolitical risk expert Samuel Wilkin of Willis Towers Watson about why political risk is moving from a background concern to a front-line business problem. Sam breaks down the rise of “gray zone” attacks in the space between war and peace—from covert sabotage to infrastructure disruption—and explains why these threats are so difficult to model and insure. He also argues that the future of political risk management is less about perfect forecasts and more about scenario discipline, exposure mapping, and governance structures that can keep up with a faster, messier geopolitical cycle.

Jan 21, 202646 min

Ep 26Cyber Risk in 2026 and Why Near Misses Matter More Than Losses With Morgan Hervé-Mignucci

In our first episode of the New Year we are focusing on cyber risk in 2026, a peril that looks increasingly systemic, yet remains poorly understood when it comes to how losses actually materialize.Over the past decade, cyber risk modeling has matured rapidly. But as cloud concentration deepens, dependencies multiply, and “near miss” events become more frequent, a central question remains unresolved: what does a truly systemic insured cyber loss actually look like—and are markets prepared for it?In this conversation with Coalion’s Dr. Morgan Hervé-Mignucci,Head of Risk Modeling at Coalition ,the discussion focuses on how cyber models have evolved, where they still fall short, and why many high-profile disruptions generate far less insured loss than the headlines suggest.

Jan 14, 202641 min

Ep 25Climate, Markets and the Limits of Insurability with Dave Jones

In the last episode of Risky Science, we examined skepticism around climate-conditioned catastrophe models with Roger Pielke Jr.—questioning how much weight long-range climate assumptions should carry in near-term insurance and capital decisions.Today’s discussion is a direct counterpoint.My guest is Dave Jones, former California Insurance Commissioner and now director of the Climate Risk Initiative at UC Berkeley Law. His recent article argues that insurance itself has become the clearest early-warning signal of climate risk—describing property insurance as the “canary in the coal mine,” and warning that the canary is already dying.This conversation is timely because the stress is no longer theoretical. Catastrophe losses are accelerating, insurers are pulling back from high-risk regions, and residual markets are expanding rapidly. Jones argues that neither deregulation nor rate increases will be enough if the underlying drivers of loss continue to intensify.We’ll examine California and Florida as live case studies, what mitigation and modeling can realistically achieve in the near term, and where the practical limits of insurance may already be coming into view.

Dec 24, 202551 min

Ep 24Climate, Catastrophe Models and the Limits of Prediction with Dr. Roger Pielke Jr.

Register for the January 8 Risky Science Podcast LiveIn this episode, I’m joined by Roger Pielke Jr., a researcher known for his work on the use—and misuse—of models in risk and policy decisions. Pielke is a polarizing figure in climate research, particularly for his views on how climate change should—and should not—be incorporated into catastrophe models used for annual insurance and reinsurance decisions.It was a timely conversation, especially as Pielke has recently used his Substack, The Honest Broker, to critique the current state of climate-risk analytics and modeling. Whatever your view of his conclusions, they offer a challenging and well-informed perspective on how risk models are being used today.

Dec 17, 202542 min

Ep 23Housing Prices, Climate Signals and Reinsurance Shocks with Dr. Philip Mulder

Register here for the January 8 Risky Science Podcast LiveThis week on the Risky Science Podcast, I’m joined by Dr. Phillip Mulder of the University of Wisconsin, co-author of a newly released research paper examining how these insurance pressures are influencing who buys, who moves, and who can no longer afford to stay.The research has drawn significant attention, including coverage in The New York Times. Dr. Mulder explains how one of the primary underlying forces in this emerging economic crisis is a series of “reinsurance shocks” — repricing events driven in part by catastrophe model estimates that are reverberating throughout the U.S. economy.

Dec 10, 202549 min

Ep 22Weather, Risk & Europe’s Energy Upheaval with TP ICAP’s Tim Boyce

Our guest is Tim Boyce of TP ICAP, who has spent more than 25 years in financial markets, from US-dollar swaps in London to commodities in Singapore, before returning to the UK to build out the firm’s European weather business. Tim describes weather as a “sleeping giant,” a market that should be much bigger given how energy, logistics, agriculture, and retail all rely on predictable weather and stable demandWe’ll talk about where demand is growing fastest, how better forecasting and satellite data are transforming hedging strategies, and why Tim sees weather derivatives and insurance as part of the same risk ecosystem — working together to get businesses the protection they need.

Nov 28, 202545 min

Ep 21Pandemics, Models and the Limits of Securitization with Dr. Susan Erikson

On today’s episode of the Risky Science Podcast, we’re stepping outside the usual finance lens and into a conversation that will push many of your assumptions about how risk, capital, and human health actually interact. Dr. Susan Erikson: medical anthropologist and author of Investable!, brings a perspective that most risk and financial professionals rarely engage with, but absolutely need to hear. Her work on pandemic bonds and the financialization of global health doesn’t just critique the structures we use; it forces us to rethink what “risk transfer” can and can’t solve when the underlying asset is human wellbeing.Investable! When Pandemic Risk Meets Speculative Finance

Nov 19, 202547 min

Ep 20Opening China’s Weather Risk Markets with climateHedge’s Jim Huang

China was once seen as a vast, untapped frontier for global risk finance — drawing interest from New York to London. Yet a combination of geopolitical headwinds and trade tensions has cooled expansion plans for many executives hoping to grow their Asian footprint.That hasn’t stopped real innovation — especially in weather and physical-risk finance, where the market potential is becoming increasingly difficult to ignore.In this episode, we speak with Jim Huang, founder of climateHedge, a firm with operations in both the U.S. and Shanghai. With a background in product strategy at the CME Group and a deep passion for opening Asian markets to weather-derivative trading, Jim is on a mission to educate the Chinese market. We discuss his on-the-ground progress so far — and how he sees weather derivatives, insurance, and reinsurance products evolving over the next decade.Risk Market Briefing: Inside China’s Bid to Industrialize Weather Risk Trading

Oct 29, 202542 min

Ep 19Sweet Earnings, Sour Investors and the Insurance Cycle Reset with KBW’s Meyer Shields

This week I’m joined by Meyer Shields of KBW, one of the most followed insurance analysts on Wall Street. We get into what’s driving that split, how AI and modeling are — or aren’t — starting to show up in real financial performance, and whether today’s property catastrophe discipline is a genuine structural reset or just another hard market waiting to unwind.

Oct 22, 202529 min

Ep 18Building Trust In AI-Driven Weather and Risk Models With Dr. Hansi Singh

This week’s guest is Dr. Hansi Singh, an Earth system scientist who’s worked at the U.S. Department of Energy, taught in academia, and now leads a startup called Plannette.AI, which blends physics and AI to deliver long-range weather forecasts for industries including finance and insurance.In this conversation, Dr. Singh explains why AI’s biggest weather-forecasting success have been within the seven-day window—and why pushing beyond that horizon remains so hard. We explore how AI can enhance—not replace—traditional physics-based models.We also get into the practical side: how finance, insurance, and even energy traders are using AI-driven forecasts, what the rise of AI agents means for accessibility, and why transparency and back-testing are critical to overcome the industry’s skepticism toward “black-box” models.

Oct 15, 202547 min

Ep 17From Models to Markets and Future of Catastrophe Risk with Dr. Paul Wilson

Dr. Paul Wilson, Head of Catastrophe and Climate Research at Twelve Securis, a leading insurance-linked securities asset manager, sits down for a live recording of the Risky Science Podcast.

Oct 1, 202541 min

Ep 16AI, Climate, Catastrophe and Why Markets Need To Rethink Risk with Dr. Seth Baum

We sit down with Dr. Seth Baum, Executive Director of the Global Catastrophic Risk Institute and research affiliate at Cambridge University’s Centre for the Study of Existential Risk. We explore how societies understand and prepare for global-scale threats—from climate change and pandemics to nuclear conflict and artificial intelligence. Dr. Baum explains why uncertainty is the defining feature of catastrophic risk, why markets struggle to price the unthinkable, and why collective action and governance are essential to tackling the crises that no private market can solve.

Sep 24, 202543 min

Ep 15Prediction markets and disrupting insurance with Kalshi's Shannon Magiera

Join the Risky Science Podcast for a live discussion with Dr. Paul Wilson, Tuesday, September 23, 11 a.m. ET.Register Here

Sep 17, 202533 min

Ep 14Climate, Correlation, and Cat Bond Investing with Plenum Investments’ Dirk Schmelzer

We speak with Dirk Schmelzer, Partner at Plenum Investments in Zurich. Dirk has spent more than 15 years managing catastrophe bond and insurance-linked securities funds, and he brings a practitioner’s perspective on how catastrophe models are actually used in portfolio management and investment decisions.We’ll explore how models have evolved, where they still fall short, and how issues like climate change and artificial intelligence are reshaping the conversation.

Sep 10, 202546 min

Ep 13Why Trust, Transparency, and Testing Define the Future of Cat Bonds And Models with KCC’s Karen Clark

This week we speak with Karen Clark, founder of Karen Clark & Company, about the evolution of catastrophe modeling and the shift toward higher-frequency, climate-driven events.

Sep 3, 202541 min

Ep 12The Modeled Through Line from Hurricane Katrina to Cyber Catastrophe Risk with Fermat Capital’s John Seo

John Seo, founder of Fermat Capital, about the lessons of Katrina for catastrophe bonds and models 20 years later. (00:00) - Introduction (02:00) - Katrina as a Market Catalyst (06:30) - Investor Confidence Under Fire (11:00) - The First True Test of Catastrophe Models (16:00) - Politics, Policy, and Deductibles (22:30) - The In-House View of Models (28:00) - Beyond Peak Perils (34:00) - AI and Model Acceleration (38:00) - A Biophysics Approach to Complex Systems (44:00) - Katrina’s Legacy in Today’s Markets (49:00) - Why Katrina Still Shapes Investor Confidence and Risk Transfer Today

Aug 27, 202552 min

Ep 11Pricing and Modeling Wildfire Risk in the Nation's Most Expensive Housing Market with Stanford's Michael Wara

Less than a year after the devastating Los Angeles fires, I’m joined by Michael Wara from Stanford University.We explore why Michael is skeptical about California developing a public wildfire model, despite being part of the strategy group that studied it. We'll dig into how the newly approved private wildfire models are about to transform California's insurance market. And we'll discuss something that's crucial but often overlooked: how community-scale risk mitigation efforts can and should be integrated into these models.

Aug 20, 202554 min

Ep 10Severe Convective Storms are Reshaping Insurance and Modeling with Dr. Victor Gensini

We talk with Dr. Victor Gensini, a professor at Northern Illinois University and one of the leading experts on severe convective storms. Dr. Gensini works with the Insurance Information Institute and has just launched a new center for convective storm research, bringing together academic research and industry needs to tackle this modeling challenge.We'll explore why these storms are so much harder to model than hurricanes, what new data sources are filling the gaps in our understanding, and why we're still five to ten years away from having reliable catastrophe models for severe convective storms.

Aug 13, 202545 min

Ep 9Cascading Risks And a Cascadia Mega Quake With Dr. Tina Dura

In this episode we talk with Dr. Tina Dura, a coastal hazard researcher at Virginia Tech, as she unpacks a threat that most risk models still underestimate: Sudden land subsidence from a long expected Cascadia subduction zone earthquake.

Jul 30, 202542 min

Ep 8Multi‑Hazard Events, Messy Data and Climate Insurance Models with Michiel Ingels

We're joined by Michiel W. Ingels, lead author of research that takes stock of the state of climate risk insurance modeling and maps out where it needs to go next.

Jul 23, 202538 min

Ep 7Floods, Risk Models, and the Future of Insurance With ReThought's Cory Isaacson

On this episode of the Risky Science Podcast, we talk with Cory Isaacson, CEO of ReThought Insurance — a longtime tech and insurance executive who’s spent years building new models aimed at making flood risk more accurate, more transparent, and more insurable.

Jul 16, 202542 min

Ep 6Modeling Pandemic Risk: Dr. Neil Ferguson on the Future of Epidemiology, Policy, and Private Markets

In this episode we speak with Dr. Neil Ferguson, a leading voice in infectious disease modeling and Director of the Jameel Institute at Imperial College London. We talk about how disease models are built, how they’ve evolved over the last two decades, and what happens when they move from academic research into policy, politics, and even the private sector.

Jul 9, 202543 min

Ep 5Multi-Hazard Modeling, AI, and the Future of Risk With Paolo Bocchini

We're joined by Dr. Paolo Bocchini, Professor of Civil and Environmental Engineering at Lehigh University, a leading researcher in catastrophe modeling and infrastructure resilience. Dr. Bocchini is the director of Lehigh’s Center for Catastrophe Modeling and Resilience, and he’s spearheading a new collaboration with Rice University—the Consortium for Enhanced Resilience and Catastrophe Modeling.In this episode, we dive into why academic and private-sector research in catastrophe risk have grown apart—and what it takes to reconnect them. We talk about multi-hazard risk, the power and limits of AI in modeling, the role of surrogate models, and how future disasters—from wildfires to earthquakes—demand new thinking.

Jul 2, 202541 min

Ep 4Wargaming, Combat Modeling, and Escalation Risk With CNA’s Dr. Jeremy Sepinsky

In this episode of the podcast, we are shifting from modeling physical risks to exploring how wargaming and combat modeling is being used to understand the growing threat of geopolitical conflict.Our guest is Dr. Jeremy Sepinsky, Lead Wargame Designer at CNA, a federally funded research and development center that supports national security analysis. We dive deep into how wargaming differs from traditional combat modeling, how escalation and de-escalation decisions are captured through human dynamics, and what all of this means in the context of current tensions with Iran.Whether it’s simulating natural disasters, cyber warfare to strategic miscommunication, Dr. Sepinsky explains how wargames help reveal the unpredictable—but actionable—dimensions of risk that quantitative models alone can’t capture.Risk Market News: Risk, Models and Markets

Jun 25, 202535 min

Ep 3Open Models, Collaboration, and Catastrophe Risk With Oasis’s Dickie Whitaker

In this episode of the Risky Science Podcast, Dickie Whitaker, CEO of the Oasis Loss Modelling Framework, discusses how open-source catastrophe modeling is transforming the risk ecosystem. Whitaker shares the origin story of Oasis and how the platform is working to lower barriers to entry, spur innovation, and increase transparency in a space long dominated by proprietary models. The conversation covers how Oasis has evolved over the past decade, recent milestones in its adoption by major players like Moody’s and Verisk, and the importance of model evaluation frameworks in ensuring trust and credibility—especially for regulators, reinsurers, and developing countries.Whitaker also offers a behind-the-scenes look at Oasis’s technology roadmap, including performance upgrades for large portfolios, growing support for cyber and climate-conditioned models, and new tools tailored for low-resource environments. From global reinsurers to national risk pools, the episode explores the expanding use cases for open modeling and what success looks like for an ecosystem built on collaboration. Whether you're a model developer, regulator, or insurance professional, this episode offers a candid look at the future of catastrophe risk analytics.

Jun 18, 202541 min

Ep 2Private Credit, Liquidity, Longevity and Life Insurance With S&P’s Carmi Margalit

As insurers seek higher yields in a persistent high-rate environment, private credit has become an increasingly significant part of portfolio strategies. But with that growth comes a new set of questions—about liquidity, transparency, and the long-term implications for credit quality. Carmi Margalit shares S&P’s analytical framework for assessing these risks, highlighting what insurers, regulators, and investors should be watching.

Jun 11, 202528 min

Ep 1Modeling Risk in a Non-Stationary Climate with Dr. Daniel Swain

After a long hiatus, we’re back—launching a new series of conversations with finance professionals, academic researchers, and technology leaders focused on a rapidly growing and often misunderstood area of risk: modeling.In this episode, we kick things off with a conversation about weather and climate modeling with Dr. Daniel Swain, a climate scientist at the University of California Agriculture and Natural Resources and the National Center for Atmospheric Research. Daniel is best known for his work on extreme weather events, climate change communication, and for developing the "weather whiplash" framework to describe rapid shifts between extremes. He’s also the voice behind the widely followed Weather West blog.Learn more about Risk Market News

May 25, 20251h 10m