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Ep 601601: The Boys Get in Touch with Their Feminine Side

In this episode of Right to Life Radio, John and Jonathan dive into uncharted territory—women's media. The duo humorously dissects a National Review article critiquing Cosmopolitan magazine, exploring topics like sexual ethics, marriage, and the portrayal of traditional values. They also tackle Kamala Harris' appearance on the Call Her Daddy podcast, discussing her views on abortion and the cultural landscape surrounding relationships. Buckle up as they wade through pop culture while tying it back to the pro-life conversation.

Oct 12, 202439 min

Ep 600600: I'm Not Stubborn… Wait, Yes I Am! (ft. Linda Teliha)

John Gerardi and Linda Teliha discuss the origins and growth of the sidewalk outreach ministry outside Planned Parenthood in Fresno. They explore the challenges of coordinating 40 Days for Life, share heartfelt stories of how Linda's personal experience drives her passion, and offer insights into the complexities of interacting with women in crisis. Later, John welcomes Jonathan Keller from California Family Council to share predictions and analysis of the upcoming vice presidential debate, particularly focusing on how the abortion issue might be handled. Skip to 41:30 to hear John and Jonathan's VP Debate predictions.

Oct 5, 202457 min

Ep 599599: Walzing into Controversy (ft. Becca Delahunt)

On this episode of Right to Life Radio, host John Gerardi is joined by guest Jonathan Keller, and Becca Delahunt to discuss the implications of Tim Walz's vice presidential pick on abortion policies in Minnesota and beyond.

Sep 28, 202439 min

Ep 598598: The Grim Reality of Late-Term Abortion

In this episode, John Gerardi and Jonathan Keller dive into Kamala Harris's controversial statements about third-trimester abortions during a recent debate. They react to a revealing clip about the grim reality of late-term abortion procedures. The discussion highlights key abortion laws and how health exceptions are often misused to justify third-trimester abortions. The team also addresses Project 2025's abortion reporting proposal and Ron DeSantis's leadership in opposing Florida's Amendment 4. Tune in for insightful and sometimes shocking commentary on the state of abortion in America.

Sep 21, 202439 min

597: "The Baby is Executed"

In this special episode of Right to Life Radio, John Gerardi gives a live reaction to the 2024 ABC News Presidential Debate, focusing on the abortion discussions between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. John dissects the candidates' stances, offering insights into Trump's lukewarm messaging, Harris' position on abortion laws, and the broader implications of abortion policy in the U.S. John highlights how both candidates frame the abortion debate and the potential impact their policies could have on national abortion laws.

Sep 14, 202438 min

Ep 596596: Wishing and Hoping and Praying and Planning

In this episode of Right to Life Radio, John Gerardi and Linda Teliha share powerful stories from the sidewalk of how Right to Life of Central California's outreach has transformed lives. From fathers stepping up to save their babies to a police officer wanting to get involved, the team discusses the real-life impact of their ministry next to Planned Parenthood. Then, Jonathan Keller joins the show with updates on current political issues surrounding abortion, including Donald Trump's comments on Amendment 4 and IVF mandates.

Sep 7, 202439 min

Ep 595595: Oy Vey

In this episode of Right to Life Radio, John Gerardi and Jonathan Keller dive into the controversial topic of IVF and its moral implications from a pro-life perspective. They discuss the Alabama Supreme Court ruling, the political fallout surrounding IVF, and the problematic stances taken by prominent Republicans. The conversation also touches on Michelle Obama's comments at the DNC, the surprising resurfacing of a California bill on IVF, and the broader implications for pro-life advocacy. The show closes with a reflection on the challenges faced by the pro-life movement in the current political landscape.

Aug 31, 202439 min

Ep 594594: Spending Like A Drunken Sailor (ft. Ann Marie Peyton)

In this episode of Right to Life Radio, John Gerardi is joined by Ann Marie Payton, Director of Tulare King's Right to Life, for an insightful discussion on the pro-life efforts in California's South Valley. Ann Marie shares about her journey from fertility care to leading a regional pro-life organization, as well as the innovative programs and successful advocacy work that TKRL is known for. The episode highlights the upcoming fundraiser featuring Jim Caviezel, and delves into the strategic moves that have prevented abortion clinics from opening in the region. John and Ann Marie also touch on the broader implications of pro-life advocacy and the challenges ahead.

Aug 24, 202439 min

Ep 593593: It's Worse Than That

In this episode of Right to Life Radio, John Gerardi and Jonathan Keller dive deep into the records of Kamala Harris and her running mate, Tim Walz, focusing on their extreme positions on abortion. The conversation covers the legislative actions taken by Walz in Minnesota that have effectively legalized infanticide and Harris's long history of aggressively pro-abortion policies, both as California Attorney General and as a U.S. Senator. They discuss the broader implications of these positions on medical ethics, federalism, and religious liberty. The hosts also touch on historical perspectives, referencing figures like Peter Singer and the deeply ingrained liberal culture in states like Minnesota.

Aug 17, 202439 min

Ep 592592: Project 2025 & The Battle for the Supreme Court

In this episode of Right to Life Radio, John Gerardi and Jonathan Keller dive into the political intricacies of election season, focusing on the contentious Project 2025 by the Heritage Foundation. They dissect the media's portrayal of the project, the impact of think tanks on political administrations, and the broader implications for social conservative issues. The duo also explores the Trump administration's handling of pro-life policies and the potential fallout from Biden and Harris's proposed Supreme Court reforms. With humor and insight, they highlight the challenges and opportunities facing the pro-life movement in the current political landscape. Show Notes: • Introduction: John Gerardi and Jonathan Keller open • Discussion on Project 2025 and its media portrayal • The role of think tanks in shaping political administrations • Heritage Foundation's shift towards social conservative issues • Analysis of the Trump administration's stance on abortion • Concerns about the lack of pro-life commitments in the current Trump campaign • Examination of Biden and Harris's proposed Supreme Court reforms • Potential impacts of imposing term limits on Supreme Court justices • Historical context of judicial impeachments in the U.S. • Final thoughts on the political climate and its effects on pro-life policies

Aug 10, 202439 min

Ep 591591: Hope, Healing, and Hilarity (ft. Linda Teliha)

In this episode of Right to Life Radio, host John Gerardi and guest Linda Talia share compelling stories from their sidewalk ministry, where they provide support and alternatives to women and couples considering abortion. The episode highlights a transformative journey of a mother who chose life for her baby, the challenges faced, and the subsequent hope and rehabilitation. The discussion also touches on the broader societal implications of abortion, including the often overlooked impact on men and the issue of coerced abortions. The episode concludes with a critical analysis of political statements on abortion freedom, offering a poignant reflection on the realities of pro-life advocacy. Show Notes • Introduction by John Gerardi • Stories from the Sidewalk Segment: Interview with Linda Teliha about sidewalk ministry experiences • Key Story: A mother's journey from considering abortion to choosing life and rehabilitation • Challenges and Hope: The ongoing support provided and the importance of community involvement • Discussion on Broader Issues: • The impact of abortion decisions on men • Instances of coerced abortions and their societal implications • Political Analysis: Reaction to Pete Buttigieg's comments on abortion and freedom • Conclusion: Reflections on the importance of comprehensive support in pro-life advocacy

Aug 3, 202439 min

Ep 590590: Phony Fiscal Liberalism (ft. Sissy Dalena-Wood)

In this episode of Right to Life Radio, host John Gerardi speaks with Sissy Dalena-Wood, co-founder of the Obria Medical Clinics of Central California. They discuss the critical public health issues facing the San Joaquin Valley, particularly the lack of prenatal care for low-income women. Sissy highlights the mission and impact of the Obria Clinics, which offer comprehensive OB/GYN services and holistic support to underserved communities. The conversation also touches on the clinic's partnerships with local organizations and the essential role of community support in providing dignified and compassionate care. Show Notes • Introduction: Host John Gerardi introduces Sissy Delana Wood, co-founder of the Obria Medical Clinics of Central California. • Main Topic: Discussion on the significant public health challenges in the San Joaquin Valley, focusing on the lack of prenatal care for low-income women. • Obria Medical Clinics: Overview of the clinic's mission, services offered, and its holistic approach to patient care. • Community Impact: The clinic's growth, patient stories, and the importance of treating patients with dignity and respect. • Partnerships: Collaboration with local organizations like Catholic Charities to provide comprehensive support to patients. • Support and Donations: Information on how to support and donate to the Obria Clinics, emphasizing local impact. • Closing Remarks: Upcoming topics on the next episode, including political updates and their implications for abortion policy.

Jul 27, 202443 min

Ep 589589: Chipping away at parental rights

In this episode of Right to Life Radio, host John Gerardi delves into the complexities of California's AB 1955, a controversial new law that prevents schools from informing parents if their child is undergoing a social gender transition. Gerardi examines the broader implications for parental rights, drawing parallels to California's longstanding policies on minors' consent to reproductive health services. With engaging anecdotes and legal insights, the episode highlights the tension between state policies and parental authority, underscored by a reaction from Elon Musk, who threatens to move business out of California in protest. Show Notes • Introduction by John Gerardi • Overview of AB 1955 and its implications for parental rights • Discussion on the confidentiality privilege held by minors • Analysis of California's historical stance on minors' consent to reproductive health services • Commentary on the broader legal principles of consent and capacity in Anglo-American law • Reaction from Elon Musk and potential business implications for California • Examination of the ethical and practical challenges posed by the new law • Closing thoughts and reflections on the future of parental rights in California

Jul 20, 202439 min

Ep 588588: The Case of the Missing Pro-Life Platform

In this episode of Right to Life Radio, John Gerardi and Jonathan Keller tackle the perplexing changes to the 2024 Republican Party platform, especially the omission of traditional pro-life language. They delve into the implications of these changes, discuss the significance of political party platforms, and debate whether this shift signals a deeper identity crisis within the Republican Party. Tune in to hear their insights on the future of the pro-life movement in American politics and the potential impacts on federal and state-level abortion policies. Show Notes: • Introduction: Welcome by John Gerardi and Jonathan Keller • Main Topic: Analysis of the Republican Party's 2024 platform changes • Platform Significance: History and purpose of party platforms • Pro-Life Language: Missing pro-life commitments and their implications • Political Strategy: Debating the strategic shifts within the Republican Party • Federal vs. State: Discussing the role of federal government in abortion legislation post-Dobbs decision • Listener Questions: Addressing audience concerns and questions about the platform changes • Conclusion: Final thoughts on the potential future of pro-life policies within American politics

Jul 13, 202440 min

Ep 587587: Sidewalk Stories: Unexpected Choices (ft. Linda Teliha)

In this compelling episode of Right to Life Radio, Linda Teliha from Right to Life of Central California shares poignant stories from the sidewalk, offering a glimpse into the real-life struggles of women facing abortion decisions. Through heartfelt anecdotes, Linda reveals the often unseen pressures and emotional turmoil these women endure, highlighting the critical role of support and compassion in their lives. The episode also touches on the aftermath of the recent presidential debate, exploring its implications on public perception and policy related to abortion. Show Notes 1. Introduction to Stories from the Sidewalk: Linda Teliha discusses her on-the-ground experiences with women considering abortion. 2. Impact of External Pressures: Examination of research indicating that 70% of abortions occur against the woman's preference due to external pressures. 3. Personal Anecdotes: Linda shares personal stories, including an encounter with a woman facing an abusive relationship and considering a second-trimester abortion. 4. Support Systems: Discussion of the resources available to women, including maternity homes and counseling, and the impact of offering these alternatives. 5. Emotional and Physical Realities: Insights into the physical and emotional realities of abortion procedures, especially in the second trimester. 6. Positive Outcomes: Highlighting success stories where women chose life after receiving support and counseling. 7. Presidential Debate Analysis: Recap of the recent presidential debate and its potential effects on abortion policies and public opinion.

Jul 6, 202438 min

Ep 586586: Roe's Reversal: The Story of Dobbs and America's Abortion Battlefield

This episode explores the landmark Dobbs decision on its two-year anniversary, overturning Roe v. Wade. Hosts John Gerardi and Jonathan Keller dive into the history of abortion law in America, from pre-Roe state regulations to the reasoning behind Roe v. Wade and Casey v. Planned Parenthood. They break down the legal arguments in the Dobbs decision and discuss its impact on the current political landscape surrounding abortion rights. The hosts also touch on the challenges facing the pro-life movement post-Dobbs and the shifting stance of some political figures on the issue. Show Notes: Introduction to Roe v. Wade and its impact (2:45) Discussion of feminist philosophy behind abortion rights (7:30) Explanation of the "penumbra" concept in constitutional law (14:20) Breakdown of Roe v. Wade's trimester framework (22:15) Analysis of Planned Parenthood v. Casey decision (31:40) Detailed look at the Dobbs decision and its reasoning (38:50) Current political landscape post-Dobbs (48:30) Challenges facing the pro-life movement (54:20)

Jun 29, 202439 min

Ep 585585: Standing Tall: Legal Hurdles and Ethical Battles in Abortion and IVF

In this episode of Right to Life Radio, host John Gerardi and guest Jonathan Keller dive into the recent Supreme Court ruling on the abortion pill, discussing its implications and the broader landscape of abortion regulations. They unpack the 9-0 decision, exploring the concept of legal standing and its role in this case. The conversation also touches on the growing prevalence of medication abortions and the challenges facing the pro-life movement in a changing regulatory environment. Additionally, John and Jonathan critique the political maneuvers surrounding IVF legislation and the seeming inconsistencies in the pro-life stance of many Republican leaders. Show Notes: 1. Introduction: • Host: John Gerardi • Guest: Jonathan Keller from California Family Council • Overview of the Supreme Court's decision regarding the abortion pill. 2. Supreme Court Ruling: • Explanation of the 9-0 decision. • Legal standing and its importance. • Historical context of the FDA's approval and regulation of the abortion pill. 3. Implications of the Decision: • The impact of the ruling on pro-life efforts. • Increased accessibility of the abortion pill and its consequences. • Discussion on the ethics and safety concerns related to medication abortions. 4. Political and Legal Analysis: • Critique of the Republican approach to FDA regulations. • The role of the Supreme Court in adjudicating actual lawsuits versus advisory opinions. 5. IVF Legislation Debate: • Examination of recent political focus on IVF. • Analysis of competing bills and their implications. • The moral and ethical considerations surrounding IVF practices. 6. Closing Thoughts: • Reflections on the broader pro-life movement. • Discussion on the importance of consistency in pro-life advocacy.

Jun 23, 202439 min

Ep 584584: California's Zoning Wars

Podcast Show Notes In this episode of Right to Life Radio, host John Gerardi is joined by Jonathan Keller from California Family Council to dive into the hot-button issue of abortion legislation in California. They discuss the latest bill, AB 2085, which aims to streamline the approval process for abortion clinics by stripping local municipalities of their decision-making power. The duo explores the implications of this bill for communities in the San Joaquin Valley, particularly Tulare County, which has been targeted by abortion providers. Key topics include: • Overview of AB 2085 and its potential impact on local zoning laws. • Historical context of abortion clinic proposals in Tulare and Visalia. • The role of local pro-life activists in opposing these clinics. • The California Environmental Quality Act (CEQA) and its exclusion for abortion clinics under the new bill. • The Southern Poverty Law Center's designation of California Family Council as a "hate group" and its broader implications for conservative organizations. Join John and Jonathan as they unravel the complex legal and social battles surrounding abortion access and local governance in California.

Jun 15, 202439 min

Ep 583583: Biggest Case Of Senioritis

In this episode of Right to Life Radio, host John Gerardi discusses California's budget crisis and its impact on Planned Parenthood, explores the financial dynamics within Planned Parenthood, and touches on the political strategies of both Democrats and Republicans in the lead-up to the 2024 election. The episode also includes commentary on the broader implications of financial decisions by major philanthropists. Main Topics: 1. California Budget Crisis: • Host John Gerardi and Jonathan Keller discuss Governor Gavin Newsom's budget issues, highlighting a $73 billion deficit. • The episode covers how Newsom's budget cuts have upset various groups, including Planned Parenthood and the California Teachers Association. 2. Planned Parenthood's "Financial Struggles": • Discussion on how Planned Parenthood is reacting to budget cuts despite receiving significant funds from the state in the past. • Analysis of Planned Parenthood's strategic use of financial pressures to garner more donations and support from wealthy philanthropists like Mackenzie Scott and Melinda Gates. 3. Impact on Abortion Services: • The episode examines how Planned Parenthood's funding issues may affect abortion services and their broader implications for reproductive health in California. • Critique of the euphemisms used to describe California's commitment to "reproductive freedom" and "health equity." 4. Political Dynamics and Strategies: • Discussion on the political maneuvering around Newsom's budget cuts and Planned Parenthood's public stance. • Exploration of how these financial and political dynamics play into the broader 2024 election strategies. 5. Financial Motivation of Planned Parenthood: • Insights into how Planned Parenthood prioritizes profitable services like transgender hormone therapy over less profitable ones like prenatal care. • Discussion on the organization's fundraising tactics and their impact on public perception and policy. 6. Philanthropy and Abortion Funding: • Analysis of recent large donations from wealthy individuals like Mackenzie Scott and Melinda Gates to support abortion services. • Examination of the influence of these donations on Planned Parenthood's operations and strategies. 7. Republican Strategies and Missteps: • Critique of Republican politicians' responses to Democrat strategies on issues like IVF and contraception. • Discussion on how these responses may impact the pro-life movement and the 2024 election. Key Quotes: "Planned Parenthood loves money. The fact that they're criticizing Newsom like this, I'm not sure if this is just a negotiating pose to kind of squeeze every last dollar out of him humanly possible." - Jonathan Keller "California's budgetary woes have led to a day of reckoning for Newsom's supporters, including Planned Parenthood, as he implements cuts to their programs." - John Gerardi "If you understand the financial dynamics of Planned Parenthood, you see an organization with very easy-to-diagnose motives: they really do love money." - Jonathan Keller

Jun 8, 202439 min

Ep 582582: There's Hope (ft. Linda Teliha)

Linda joins to tell some of the more disappointing stories from the sidewalk, then Jonathan joins to talk about the California Arizona abortion doctor bill.

Jun 1, 202439 min

Ep 581581: Twenty Brothers On Ice

John and Jonathan discuss the ongoing saga of IVF, the Cruz-Britt IVF bill proposed in the Senate, and the waffling conservative politicians are doing when it comes to discussing IVF.

May 25, 202439 min

Ep 580580: Putting It In Context

Join John and Jonathan as they delve into Dr. David Grossman's latest controversial article on pill abortion, uncovering the hidden truths and implications. They also tackle the alarming misuse of the FACE Act, highlighting the case of a peaceful protester facing a five-year prison sentence. Tune in for an eye-opening discussion on these pressing issues.

May 18, 202439 min

Ep 579579: Totally Not Racist

John and Jonathan discuss the proposed California Bill for temporary licensure to Arizona abortion doctors. Then they discuss the an article focuses on the discrepancies in maternal care between different races of women.

May 11, 202439 min

Ep 578578: Coerced Into Compliance (ft. Linda Teliha)

Linda joins to talk about what she is seeing on the sidewalk. Then John sheds light on a new Assembly bill that would force city governments to automatically approve new abortion clinics.

May 4, 202439 min

Ep 577577: Dancing Like A Monkey

John discusses California legislation that would give temporary medical licenses to Arizona abortion doctors.

Apr 27, 202439 min

Ep 576576: Infinite Dignity

John and Jonathan discuss a written piece from the Vatican that discusses the dignity of humans. Also the California euthanasia bill is dead... for now.

Apr 20, 202439 min

Ep 575575: Don't Just "Follow Your Heart"

John and Jonathan discuss Trump's statements about abortion.

Apr 13, 202439 min

Ep 574574: That's your tax dollars (ft. Linda Teliha)

This week John and Joanthan discuss the ongoing lawsuit of the abortion pill, then Linda joins to discuss what she is experiencing on the sidewalk of planned parenthood.

Apr 6, 202439 min

Ep 573573: Consent goes out the window (ft. Alex Schadenberg)

John discusses the proposed euthenasia bill in the California state legislature currently with special guest Alex Schadenberg.

Mar 30, 202440 min

Ep 572572: Canada is our Future

This week John and Jonathan discuss the euthanization bill currently in the California state legislature.

Mar 23, 202440 min

Ep 571571: Maybe Belgium is lovely this time of year (ft. Bishop Joseph Brennan)

We rerun John interviews Bishop Joseph Brennan from the Diocese of Fresno to discuss Respect Life Month. Then John discusses a California senate bill that could have fatal consequences (literally).

Mar 16, 202439 min

Ep 570570: History of the Abortion Pill With Guest Melanie from Heritage (Rerun)

This week Melanie from Heritage joins John to discuss the history of the abortion pill and its future within the current political climate.

Mar 9, 202442 min

Ep 569569: The Evil Theocratic Handmaids Tale (ft. Linda Teliha)

Linda joins to talk about babies she is helping save on the sidewalk outside Planned Parenthood. Then Jonathan joins to continue the discussion on IVF.

Mar 2, 202439 min

Ep 568568: Agita

John and Jonathan discuss rumors that Trump is going to support a 16 week abortion ban at the federal level. Then some big news from the Alabama Supreme Court ruling that embryos are protected from wrongful death, causing a potentially big shakeup of the IVF industry in Alabama.

Feb 24, 202439 min

Ep 568568: Willfully Obtuse

John and Jonathan discuss a video conference hosted by the head of OB/GYN at UCSF. Then they transition to Joe Biden's heavy focus on abortion and Roe V. Wade for the 2024 campaign.

Feb 17, 202439 min

Ep 567567: Deceptive Practices of Abortion Clinics (ft. Toni McFadden)

Toni McFadden joins us to share her story of abortion and the abortion pill. Then Jonathan and John dive deeper into the abortion pill and how abortion clinics will twist words to make the abortion pill sound safer than it really is.

Feb 10, 202439 min

Ep 566566: Testing the Limits (ft. Linda Teliha)

Linda joins to disucss what she is experiencing on the sidewalk of Planned Parenthood. Then Jonathan joins to discuss the abortion pill case that the Supreme Court will be deciding on.

Feb 3, 202439 min

Ep 565565: Good for Jon Voight I Guess

Walk for Life West Coast and March for Life in Washington DC is the topic of discussion. What has the Biden campaign decided to be their main issue in the 2024 election? Who was the suprise guest speaker at March for Life, and did Jonathan spoil the suprise? Listen to find out!

Jan 27, 202439 min

Ep 564564: Wasn't Exactly Disappointing For Me

This week John and Jonathan discuss another anniversary of Roe being overturned. Then John theorizes what another Trump presidency could mean for federal abortion law.

Jan 20, 202439 min

Ep 563563: AIVF

This week John and Jonathan discuss new IVF technologies that are on the horizon, and that the Pope has called for a worldwide ban on surrogacy.

Jan 13, 202439 min

Ep 562562: The Whole Husky is Pink

Linda joins John to discuss what she is seeing on the sidewalk outside Planned Parenthood, then John and Jonathan discuss TESCREAL and the transhumanism movement.

Jan 6, 202456 min

Ep 561561: Government Subsidized Chipotle

This week John and Jonathan take a look back and the year and discuss some of the notable events that happened in 2023.

Dec 30, 202339 min

Ep 560560: All The Way To Fresno

John and Jonathan discuss the disturbing (and rising) trend of IVF.

Dec 23, 202339 min

Ep 559559: Extreme and Radical FDA

John discusses the abortion pill lawsuit that the Supreme Court will decide on and then examines the Kate Cox story.

Dec 16, 202339 min

Ep 558558: The Boy Who Cried RINO

This week John and Jonathan discuss Kevin McCarthy's exit from Congress at the end of this year, leaving his seat vacant for 2024. Then they switch topics to surrogates and in-vitro fertilization.

Dec 9, 202339 min

Ep 557557: The Great Things Right To Life Has Done

This week Linda joins us to talk about her stories from the sidewalk. Then John reminisces about the accomplishments of Right to Life.

Dec 2, 202339 min

Ep 556556: When You're Drowning You Don't Need A High Five

This week John and Jonathan discuss a new document that outlines how many women who got abortions, actually wanted one.

Nov 25, 202338 min

Ep 555555: Small "L" Libertarians

This week John and Jonathan discussed the abortion amendments that recently passed from different states, and what that really means for our country.

Nov 18, 202338 min

Ep 554554: In My Personal Capacity

John and Jonathan discuss the disappointing results of ballot initiatives in certain states. But then turn to some uplifting news here in Fresno!

Nov 11, 202339 min

Ep 553553: B-B-B-Billions

It's Stories from the Sidewalk with Linda Tehlia this week. John talks to her about what's happening on the sidewalk. Then Jonathan joins to discuss John's favorite person: Tommy Tubberville! They also get into the new Speaker of the House Mike Johnson and Texas's lawsuit against Planned Parenthood.

Nov 4, 202339 min