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Plastic surgeon, Dr. Christian Subbio, is back for a thought-provoking conversation about the real cost of plastic surgery and the unrealistic beauty standards we see on social media. Victoria and Dr. Subbio get into the truth behind celebrity transformations involving Kris Jenner, Bradley Cooper, Bella Hadid, and more, while unpacking the biggest beauty trends right now: reversed procedures, what people get wrong about injectables, and the shift back to a more natural look. He also shares his biggest piece of advice for young women curious about plastic surgery and the deeper truth underneath it all: changing your face or body will not automatically fix insecurity. Tune in for a nuanced conversation on self-acceptance, transparency in the beauty industry, and what to know before pursuing plastic surgery.Related Episode:Celebrity Plastic Surgery Secrets Revealed, The Rise Of The “BBL,” & How The Beauty Standard is Unattainable Even Under The Knife with Dr. Christian SubbioConnect with Dr. Subbio:Website: drsubbio.comInstagram: @dr.subbio// SPONSORS //Quince: Go to quince.com/realpod to get free shipping and 365-day returns.BetterHelp: Visit betterhelp.com/realpod today to get 10% off your first month.Premier Protein: Find your favorite flavor at premierprotein.com or at Amazon, Walmart, and other major retailers. Pique Tea: Unlock 20% off and establish your powerful sustained well-being at piquelife.com/realpod. Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Your favorite marathon runner and internet BFF, Brett Chody aka @brettsbites, is here! In this episode, Victoria sits down with Brett to talk about her transition from college grad to full-time influencer, what people get wrong about her journey online, and how she’s handled the challenges that come with growing a platform. Brett opens up about the body image and food struggles she faced as a competitive runner, what helped her heal her relationship with food, and why creating content for her younger self matters so much to her now. They also get into navigating life as a creator with famous friends like her bestie, Jake Shane, creating better boundaries around social media, and her best tips for anyone looking to start running. Tune in for a fun, honest conversation about career growth, healing old patterns, and figuring out what feels right in your 20s!Follow Brett on social media: @brettsbites // SPONSORS //Premier Protein: Find your favorite flavor at premierprotein.com or at Amazon, Walmart, and other major retailers. CozyEarth: Head to cozyearth.com and use my code REALPOD for up to 20% off.Vuori: Go to vuori.com/realpod to receive 20% off your first purchase and enjoy free shipping on any U.S. orders over $75 and free returns.LMNT: LMNT is offering a free sample pack with any purchase, that’s 8 single serving packets FREE with any LMNT order. This is a great way to try all 8 flavors or share LMNT with a friend. Get yours at DrinkLMNT.com/realpod.Peloton: Let yourself run, lift, sculpt, push, and go. Explore the new Peloton Cross Training Tread+ at onepeloton.com.  Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Katie Austin is pregnant! In this episode, Victoria sits down with the Sports Illustrated model, fitness creator, and founder of the Your Daily app to talk about all things pregnancy; from how long it took to conceive to the brutal reality of her first trimester to what pregnancy is teaching her already. Katie opens up about the mental health toll of being sick for months, pregnancy anxiety, body image changes, whether she’ll put her kids on social media, and what it’s like stepping into motherhood in the public eye. Plus, we talk about how empowering it is to educate yourself about your body and your hormones, no matter what stage of life you’re in. Tune in if you have baby fever, you’re pregnant, or you’re thinking about kids, because you are going to love this episode!Connect with Katie:Instagram: @katieaustin and @yourdailyDownload the Your Daily app: kadaily.app// SPONSORS // BetterHelp: Visit betterhelp.com/realpod today to get 10% off your first month.Premier Protein: Find your favorite flavor at premierprotein.com or at Amazon, Walmart, and other major retailers. Vuori: Go to vuori.com/realpod to receive 20% off your first purchase and enjoy free shipping on any U.S. orders over $75 and free returns.Peloton: Let yourself run, lift, sculpt, push, and go. Explore the new Peloton Cross Training Tread+ at onepeloton.com.  Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

No one understands what it takes to navigate life and career transitions better than NFL veteran, sports broadcast host, and content creator Isaac Rochell. He joins Vic to get real about navigating life after football, redefining who you are beyond your job, and confronting the food and body image struggles men rarely talk about. The former Notre Dame standout opens up about life in the league, from tough coaching dynamics and the constant fear of getting cut to walking away from the NFL and building a new career in media. Vic and Isaac also dive into supporting a wildly successful partner (and being proudly known as “Mr. Kuch”), becoming a girl dad of two, and the GLP-1 conversation entering sports culture. Tune in for a grounded, transparent conversation about athlete identity, career reinvention, and healing your relationship with food.Connect with Isaac on Instagram: @isaacrochell and TikTok: @isaacrochellRelated episodes:Allison Kuch: Life as a Creator & NFL WifeBody Image Q&A with Vic!! Navigating GLP-1 Pressure, Quieting Food Noise & Managing Triggers// SPONSORS //Premier Protein: Find your favorite flavor at premierprotein.com or at Amazon, Walmart, and other major retailers. Vuori: Go to vuori.com/realpod to receive 20% off your first purchase and enjoy free shipping on any U.S. orders over $75 and free returns.CozyEarth: Head to cozyearth.com and use my code REALPOD for up to 20% off.Thrive Market: Join Thrive Market with my link ThriveMarket.com/REALPOD for 30% off your first order plus a FREE $60 gift!Peloton: Let yourself run, lift, sculpt, push, and go. Explore the new Peloton Cross Training Tread+ at onepeloton.com.  Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hustle culture is out, and Dr. Michael Gervais is here to tell us why. The world-renowned high-performance psychologist, who works with Olympians, Fortune 50 CEOs, and the Seattle Seahawks, returns to Real Pod for the third time to challenge everything we think we know about success. In this powerful conversation, Dr. Mike breaks down the difference between peak performance and true mastery, why doing more will not make you extraordinary, and how to train your mind to be calm, focused, and unbothered. He shares how to create a compelling future, make a fundamental commitment to your values, and build the psychological agility needed to navigate setbacks without losing yourself. If you are tired of burnout, chasing validation, or feeling behind, this episode will shift your entire perspective. Tune in to learn how to be more so you can finally do less, but better.Resources:Morning Mindset Routine: linked here Website: findingmastery.comInstagram: @michaelgervaisPodcast: Finding Mastery with Dr. Michael GervaisRelated Episodes:Dr. Michael Gervais - Understanding Our Minds: How To Unlock Your Full PotentialStop Worrying About What People Think Of You & Unleash Your Authenticity with Dr. Michael Gervais// SPONSORS //Premier Protein: Find your favorite flavor at premierprotein.com or at Amazon, Walmart, and other major retailers. Quince: Go to quince.com/realpod to get free shipping and 365-day returns.BetterHelp: Visit betterhelp.com/realpod today to get 10% off your first month.LMNT: LMNT is offering a free sample pack with any purchase, that’s 8 single serving packets FREE with any LMNT order. This is a great way to try all 8 flavors or share LMNT with a friend. Get yours at DrinkLMNT.com/realpod.Peloton: Let yourself run, lift, sculpt, push, and go. Explore the new Peloton Cross Training Tread+ at onepeloton.com.  Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

After a year of headlines, heartbreak, and healing, Brianna “Chickenfry” LaPaglia is stepping into a whole new era. One of Barstool’s most prominent female voices, host of her relaunched Plan Bri Uncut, Sports Illustrated Swimsuit feature, and Fox’s Special Forces alum, Brianna joins Vic to open up about surviving a very public breakup, redefining closure, and rebuilding her relationship with herself. She gets candid about her anxiety-induced eating disorder, the truth about gaining weight in a world obsessed with shrinking, and what it really took to become healthy again. From solo trips to Scotland that helped her rediscover her personality to hard truths about being “selfish” in your healing season, this episode is a masterclass in moving forward with confidence. If you’ve ever struggled with heartbreak, body image, people-pleasing, or finding your spark again, this one will hit home!Connect with Bri:Instagram: @briannalapaglia and @planbriuncutTikTok: @ihatebriannachickenfry// SPONSORS //Premier Protein: Find your favorite flavor at premierprotein.com or at Amazon, Walmart, and other major retailers. Vuori: Go to vuori.com/realpod to receive 20% off your first purchase and enjoy free shipping on any U.S. orders over $75 and free returns.Peloton: Let yourself run, lift, sculpt, push, and go. Explore the new Peloton Cross Training Tread+ at onepeloton.com.  CozyEarth: Head to cozyearth.com and use my code REALPOD for up to 20% off.Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Vic is doing something wildly out of character… and that’s the point! In this life update, she shares why she and her husband, Max, are packing up and living in a sprinter van for a spontaneous three-week road trip across California. After a season of burnout, routine, and always chasing the next goal, Vic opens up about craving more freedom, curiosity, and space to figure out who she is becoming in this next chapter. She breaks down how the trip came together, how Max reacted to her out-of-the-blue idea, what van life will actually look like, and why this journey is about more than just the views. If you’ve been feeling stuck, overplanned, or disconnected from your sense of adventure, this episode might be the nudge you need. Tune in to hear why Vic is choosing spontaneity, simplicity, and the journey inward this season.Related episode:Chaotic Life Update: I’m Burnt Out & Something Needs to ChangeAubrey & Corporate Natalie are Back!! 2025 Reflections & New Year Goal Setting// SPONSORS // Premier Protein: Find your favorite flavor at premierprotein.com or at Amazon, Walmart, and other major retailers. BetterHelp: Visit betterhelp.com/realpod today to get 10% off your first month.Quince: Go to quince.com/realpod to get free shipping and 365-day returns.LMNT: LMNT is offering a free sample pack with any purchase, that’s 8 single serving packets FREE with any LMNT order. This is a great way to try all 8 flavors or share LMNT with a friend. Get yours at DrinkLMNT.com/realpod.Peloton: Let yourself run, lift, sculpt, push, and go. Explore the new Peloton Cross Training Tread+ at onepeloton.com.   Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The Mind Architect, Peter Crone, is here for a life-changing conversation about how to unlock the subconscious beliefs holding you back and reclaim peace and presence in your life. Peter breaks down why we spiral in negative thoughts, why your brain is always bracing for a bad future that hasn’t even happened yet, and how to stop endlessly “fixing” your problems and start dissolving them instead. He shares simple, grounding tools to calm anxiety, get out of worst-case-scenario mode, and be more present with the people and life right in front of you. The episode wraps with a real-time one-on-one session where Peter helps Vic uncover a subconscious belief or “lie” that’s been quietly holding her back, giving you a front-row seat to the work that creates real, lasting change. Tune in to learn how to break mental loops, take your power back, and feel a whole lot lighter in your own mind.Visit petercrone.com/mastermind to learn more about Peter’s three-month intensive starting February 21, 2026!Connect with Peter:Instagram: @petercroneYouTube: Peter Crone// SPONSORS // Premier Protein: Find your favorite flavor at premierprotein.com or at Amazon, Walmart, and other major retailers. BetterHelp: Visit betterhelp.com/realpod today to get 10% off your first month.Pique Tea: Unlock 20% off and establish your powerful sustained well-being at piquelife.com/realpod. CozyEarth: Head to cozyearth.com and use my code REALPOD for up to 20% off.Thrive Market: Join Thrive Market with my link ThriveMarket.com/REALPOD for 30% off your first order plus a FREE $60 gift! Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Do you know how much your subconscious patterns are quietly shaping your relationships, reactions, and everyday life? Victoria sits down with Thais Gibson, PhD, renowned attachment theory expert, researcher, and founder of the Personal Development School, for a grounded, eye-opening masterclass on attachment, emotional healing, and the subconscious mind. Thais breaks down the four attachment styles and her six practical paths to healing, while Victoria experiences a vulnerable, real-time emotional unlock that brings the science into lived experience. Tune in if you want to understand your triggers, shift long-standing relationship patterns, and learn actionable tools to build more secure attachment in your relationships and daily life.Want to go deeper? Check out the Personal Development School at personaldevelopmentschool.com and use code PDS2026 for 20% off her 90-day Attachment Healing Membership.Follow Thais on Instagram: @thepersonaldevelopmentschoolPlease note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The start of a new year is the perfect time to get your finances in check. The internet’s favorite financial expert Vivian Tu aka Your Rich BFF is here to break down how to take control of your finances right now, from getting out of debt to building a future that actually feels aligned. As a former Wall Street trader turned CEO of Your Rich BFF, New York Times bestselling author, and Chief of Financial Empowerment at SoFi, Vivian shares simple, actionable tools including an easy equation to decide what’s worth buying, how to improve your financial situation starting today, and how to have honest money conversations with your partner so you can win together as a couple. She also opens up about her upcoming book Well Endowed, a practical roadmap for navigating big adult money decisions like home ownership, marriage, and family planning, all while aligning your spending with your values, goals, and legacy. Tune in for the perfect mindset shift to start the year feeling confident, informed, and empowered about your money!Pre-order your copy of Well Endowed at richbffbook.com.Follow Vivian at @yourrichbff on Instagram and TikTok.// SPONSORS // Premier Protein: Find your favorite flavor at premierprotein.com or at Amazon, Walmart, and other major retailers. BetterHelp: Visit betterhelp.com/realpod today to get 10% off your first month.CozyEarth: Go to cozyearth.com and use code REALPOD for 20% off best selling temperature-regulating sheets, apparel, and more.Vuori: Go to vuori.com/realpod to receive 20% off your first purchase and enjoy free shipping on any U.S. orders over $75 and free returns.Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Celebrity hairstylist and author Chris Appleton joins Vic for a powerful conversation inspired by his new book, Your Roots Don’t Define You, about what happens when you finally live in alignment with who you truly are. Known for creating iconic looks for stars like Ariana Grande, Jennifer Lopez, and Kim Kardashian, Chris opens up about his journey of coming to terms with his sexuality later in life, raising two children, and overcoming his darkest moment. He shares how accepting himself changed everything, both personally and professionally, along with four simple questions you can ask yourself when you feel stuck, and a powerful reframe that turns envy into motivation. Plus, get Chris’ opinion on the side vs middle part debate and tips for healthy, hydrated hair! Tune in for an honest, inspiring conversation about self-acceptance and stepping into your truth. Grab Chris’ new book, “Your Roots Don't Define You” at yourrootsdontdefineyou.com!Follow Chris on TikTok @chrisappletonhair & Instagram @chrisappleton1// SPONSORS //Premier Protein: Find your favorite flavor at premierprotein.com or at Amazon, Walmart, and other major retailers. Durable: Visit durable.com/realpod and get started with Durable for free today. When you’re ready to publish your website, use code REALPOD for 30% off all plans. BetterHelp: Visit betterhelp.com/realpod today to get 10% off your first month.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Vic is joined by her best friend Aubrey, her husband Max, and his best friend (who also happens to be Aubrey’s husband) Wood, to break down their first-ever couples trip together to Hawaii, from how the trip was secretly planned to the moments that made it unforgettable. They recap the highlights and hiccups, including early-morning beach chair strategy, sunscreen drama, group dynamics, and the surprisingly deep conversations that came up along the way. The group answers listener questions about balancing friend time and partner time, whether any fights actually happened, and why this trip felt like exactly what everyone needed. This episode is a reminder of how restorative shared laughter and intentional time together can be. Tune in for a fun escape, honest reflections, and a full couples-vacay debrief!// SPONSORS // Premier Protein: Find your favorite flavor at premierprotein.com or at Amazon, Walmart, and other major retailers. Durable: Visit durable.com/realpod and get started with Durable for free today. When you’re ready to publish your website, use code REALPOD for 30% off all plans. CozyEarth: Go to cozyearth.com and use code REALPOD for 20% off best selling temperature-regulating sheets, apparel, and more.Pique Tea: Unlock 20% off and establish your powerful sustained well-being at piquelife.com/realpod. Thrive Market: Join Thrive Market with my link thrivwemarket.com/REALPOD for 30% off your first order plus a free $60 gift! Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Victoria is finally sharing the secret project she’s been teasing for a year! Introducing Booked & Balanced, her mental health forward daily planner that’s designed to help you chase big goals without burning out. In this solo episode, Vic takes listeners behind the scenes of creating the planner completely from scratch, using the tools and prompts she loves using every day. She breaks down what makes Booked & Balanced different, including emotion tracking, must do vs can do lists, a weekly intentional pause, and science-backed practices that support mental health alongside productivity. If you are looking for a more sustainable way to plan your days, stay in alignment, and actually feel proud of how you’re living your life, this episode (and planner) is for you! Tune in to hear how Booked & Balanced was born and how it can change the way you work, plan, and take care of yourself.B&B Restock Update - The first Booked & Balanced drop launched on January 4th and sold out in just four hours!! Thanks to your incredible support, we were able to pull a few strings and offer a small restock sooner than planned. Starting on 1/6 at 6 PM PST / 9 PM EST, you can pre-order Booked & Balanced at victoriagarrickbrowne.com/shop, with orders shipping January 14th - 21st. This restock is much more limited than the initial drop, so if you want one, be sure to order right at launch. Additionally, we’re actively working on a larger restock, but the next opportunity to order won’t be until March or April. If you’ve been hoping to start 2026 with Booked & Balanced by your side, this is your chance!// SPONSORS // Crunchmaster: Find Crunchmaster at a store near you!Premier Protein: Find your favorite flavor at premierprotein.com or at Amazon, Walmart, and other major retailers. Quince: Go to quince.com/realpod to get free shipping and 365-day returns.Durable: Visit durable.com/realpod and get started with Durable for free today. When you’re ready to publish your website, use code REALPOD for 30% off all plans.  Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Aubrey and Natalie are back with the fourth annual New Year’s bestie recap! The trio sits down to reflect on the personal and professional goals they set in the year past and share what they are hoping to create in the year ahead. Natalie opens up about her massive 2025 career wins and settling into engagement life, while Aubrey reflects on her first full year as a creator, and how she’s beginning to think about family planning. Vic gets honest about burnout, leadership lessons, and the secret project she is preparing to release, along with the personal growth that came from embracing being a work in progress. Together they map out their 2026 intentions focusing on presence, community, spiritual evolution, adventure, and letting life unfold with a little more trust. Tune in for a comforting, inspiring, and laugh filled best friend check in to kick off your year!Related episodes: Chaotic Life Update: I’m Burnt Out & Something Needs to ChangeChristmas Spectacular w/ Vic & Max! Our Favorite Traditions, Childhood Memories & Holiday Hot Takes // SPONSORS // Quince: Go to quince.com/realpod to get free. Shipping and 365-day returns.Crunchmaster: Find Crunchmaster at a store near you!LMNT: LMNT is offering a free sample pack with any purchase, that’s 8 single serving packets FREE with any LMNT order. This is a great way to try all 8 flavors or share LMNT with a friend. Get yours at DrinkLMNT.com/realpod.Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Vic and Max are ushering in the holidays with a Christmas Spectacular episode filled with nostalgia, tradition, and plenty of laughs. They swap childhood memories, debate the most iconic modern Christmas songs, reflect on the traditions they want to keep or create for their family, and share the sweet (and chaotic) moments that shaped their holidays growing up. From heartfelt gift stories to surprising hot takes on Christmas cards and a rapid-fire Christmas edition of “this or that,” this episode will instantly put you in the holiday mood. Tune in to celebrate the season with Vic and Max and feel all the festive joy!// SPONSORS // Quince: Go to quince.com/realpod to get free. Shipping and 365-day returns.Crunchmaster: Find Crunchmaster at a store near you!Storyworth: Save $10 or more during their Holiday sale when you go to storyworth.com/realpod! Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Victoria sits down for the kind of life update you’d give your best friend when everything feels like… a lot. She opens up about the burnout she’s been pushing through, a major (and expensive) business mistake, team changes, and what it’s been like to juggle a nonprofit, a podcast, and a full creator career without losing herself in the process. She talks about the fear of stepping back, the pressure to constantly show up online, and the nagging feeling that something in her life needs to shift. Vic also shares the mindset breakthroughs she had at a recent Peter Crone event, why she’s craving more freedom and adventure, and how she’s trying to slow down enough to hear her own voice again. If you’ve ever felt stretched thin, stuck in a season of “figuring it out,” or unsure how to reset, this episode will feel like a deep breath. Tune in for a candid, comforting catch-up that just might make you feel understood.Related episode:My Live Therapy Session with Gabby Bernstein!// SPONSORS //Quince: Go to quince.com/realpod to get free. Shipping and 365-day returns.Function: Visit www.functionhealth.com/REALPOD or use gift code REALPOD100 at sign-up to own your health. The first 1000 get a $100 credit toward their membership.AG1: Head to DRINKAG1.com/REALPOD you’ll get the welcome kit, a Morning Person hat, a bottle ofVitamin D3+K2, a AG1 Flavor Sampler and you’ll get to try their new sleep supplement AGZ for free. Crunchmaster: Find Crunchmaster at a store near you!Please note that this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode.Produced by Dear Media.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.